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Don’t really understand this comment sorry. To clarify manufacturing defects are more indicative of true right now where a design flaw is more ccm right now. We went through very good times with ccms ft5-6, trigger 6-7 but now ccm is terrible with the blades. True has been shit for years.

Unfortunately it’s very common and a lot of people aren’t happy about it expensive defect

Legit for hockey. Builds stamina but at high resistance leg strength

Much appreciated

I have an updated video of this coming in about 2 weeks. More in line with shooting

Unfortunately I don’t have kids playing, and without experience with Junior sticks I can’t say for certain the tech and performance translates when the sticks are way smaller and flex goes way down. I would suggest follow my usual guidelines on recommended sticks in the tier list pro stock included and go from there and see if he enjoys the sticks. The tiniest experience I have is a women I know that is tiny and runs junior sticks and she got a vision over the ribcore and said it was different so must have some merit but I don’t like to talk out if my experience zone

Thanks for the prompt reply! Did you test the hybrid (VF) prostock sticks? I’ll Stop bugging you!

@ not yet. I actually reached out to gepetto and said I keep getting asked to test his sticks and just don’t have the budget yet and mean while he’s sending all three lines to hockey reviews. Haven’t heard back yet though

Not sure what a ccm stage 2 is, but when speaking of durability here we are talking about the top end sticks. The lower you go and the lower the price usually heavier and more solid materials for construction increase durability but performance drops

Good choice. I do my best to test sticks find the problems and communicate with the hockey community spending the money on these companies and I just find sometimes people just aren’t taking it seriously. When you’re talking about a consumable that is 400$ that could last 4 min or 4 months it’s so important that you have the information. It’s why hockey tutorial and the alike piss me off

🤷‍♂️ as I’m joking about being Bédard wearing his jersey and clearly not a pro hockey player I think we all know I’m Not actually shooting g like Bédard

Hmmm so busting a stick at 2 weeks and then again a week later to be down 450$ is ok? I would have to disagree there is some level of expected durability even for a 450$ 325 gram stick. One game isn’t acceptable

@ all of my sticks usually last me the whole season, being on the ice 5-7 days a week. well for me i’m pretty short, I like to buy jr sticks, get extensions with them which costs me just under $300

@rydenhaze10 can’t comment much on junior sticks as no experience but them lasting that long is insane

Btw not expecting 6 weeks I was expecting more like 2-3 but happy it lasted this long

Guess depends on usage I just broke my tracer only two weeks in probably like 6 games I think playing center though sucks either way twitch lasting 6 weeks if playing 2-3 a week is decent

@ I broke my tracer in 6 days blocked a shot with it and broke

@ also used it constantly for the 6 weeks prob like at least 4-5 times a week whether it was practice or games

The twitch

Thank you I’m glad I love the ft6 pro I hear not used the qr6 pro yet so I can’t commit how it stacks up. If you did find a ft6 I would think it’s on sale because it’s older so if that’s the case you can’t really go wrong.

@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews there is a 40$ difference, so i would rather buy the best shooting stick. We play in a beer league where slapshots are not allowed, so we lean on snappers and wrist shots. I used a Jedspeed Pro2 until this moment, and recently an FT Ghost that broke. I never used a low kick stick, and that is what intrigues me that everyone says in the reviews that low and ultralow sticks are specially good for wrist/snap shots. Thank you for your time! PS. I saw nothing special with the Ghost, the Jestpeed pro 2 seem a bit faster and snappier at he same flex/curve. 85flex p29

@ I also play in one no slap shot league. I generally don’t game low kick sticks except the trigger before helicoid and Bauer agent and twitch. The qr6 something I haven’t used so I can’t comment on how well it performs for those shots over the ft6 or other choices so don’t want to steer in that direction. My friend has a qr6 and said nice weight and feels great but not best shooting low kick sticks he’s used. The ft6 and jet speeds are stiffer flex profiles to accommodate the no slap shots I would drop flex by 5 and allow easier loading and release if you go that route. If you’re using an 85 I may even go 75 in a ft6 unless you are not cutting it at all. If you aren’t cutting g I would use 80

Yes the legend durability is not the same as the element one as mentioned Sherwood pushed it to far and have lost it.

Unfortunately no second warranty which is why you have to be so careful with true and helicoid. You can be out 400$ real quick for a poor design on the companies fault. I had same problem with my 9x3 both toast In 4 games. Then helicoids same thing. It’s so disappointing and disheartening

@ well I’ll try to get one goal per ten minutes and see how it goes. 🤣🙁🤣

@ all you can do lol

The best budget sticks are pro stocks. Or 1-3 year model clearance. I am now testing the KYC stealth and has same problem as every other budget sticks. It lacks performance no matter what hockey tutorial says. It’s best time look at hockey stick man, and older model sticks then get a “budget stick company”

Wood is definitely durable

No objectively they are bad. For durability. Has nothing to do with performance or feel. They break prematurely very easily

@. Used the 9 pro since they came out I have 3, broken 0. I play a decent high level of hockey. You’re just a grade A hater. side note; CCM makes about 4 tiers of the trigger. The pro is for players who are playing high levels of hockey, who don’t care if they are going to break the stick. If you’re worried about breaking the stick the 9k which is stronger. Beer leaguers and house leaguers should not be buying top of the line sticks it’s a waste of money they’re not meant or manufactured to last. sticks break. It’s like the most common equipment malfunction in a hockey.

@Hunter-fd3eg shouldn’t be buying top of the line sticks? Based on what? Why not? I can buy whatever I want. The product should perform without issues. Not break prematurely. You’re 100% correct sticks break. Usually in a reasonable amount of time. If it breaks early, over and over in same spot that is called a defect. Ccm shit the bed get over it. I’m not a hater of ccm at all I praised them for the ft4,5,6 trigger 4,6 and 7 and tacks as3,4. You’re just uninformed If you haven’t broken a stick you are the exception not rule. These things are coming in by the droves online, into stores and because I have access to insider management at a very large hockey store I get information on warranty returns and trends. Guess what the blade is dog shit whether you like it or not. Your one example means nothing. In manufacturing we have things called trends. Ccm is in a downward one. If you want bullshit reviews go see hockey tutorial where they praise everything screwing over everyone never mentioning anything bad ever.

It’s expensive in Canada. And with helicoid I’m not super keen I will think about it

Man that sucks I hate to hear it after spending so much money. Hopefully warranty maybe can switch for an older ccm?

Unfortunately I disagree on 100-200 grams is incredibly notable. Especially from 420 to a 380. It makes a massive difference in game play. I can one hand a puck in a outstretched position with a 380 gram stick far easier from a a strength position than if I was using a 450 gram stick. The happy medium is about 375 or so as best overall. It’s important to understand what you are getting into at different weight levels. The 330 gram, 360, 380, 40, 420 and how they perform and their durability

Ouch I feel that

If you’re using this to each their own but for mid kicks there is far better sticks that would probably help your shot and game much better but again what works for you if you feel it is all that matters. You also mention using 105 flex and that’s extremely rare these days and it’s usually not a good strategy. Because I use so many sticks I find a lot of people come on my channel and say I’m incorrect about a stick because they like it. If you have only used a few sticks here and there a tacks in comparison to something else you have had for years very much will be an improvement. That’s not how I review sticks. So please keep that in mind. It’s great to hear it works for your needs but objectively it’s not great

Looks that way

Yes but October so way out

Wait is it October 2025 or 2026?

@ 2025 I know blows

It’s in some marketing materials and some others I touch on this in my durability vid so we aren’t quite sure but sounds like a hybrid helicoid

ah okay, makes sense. My bad 😅

@ my guess will take 2-3 more releases to remove helicoid completely

Well, I guess I won’t be going back to ccm sticks for that time then

@ ha me either

Most sticks have pros and cons but there is a significant advantage to knowing how to shoot your style and teaming that with a top stick. That’s kinda my next vid. Doesn’t have to be top top but rocking a wood Sherwood isn’t a good plan

It’s basically dead so probably best.

Haven’t use it yet other than in demo zones, great weight, balance and grip shooting I thought was behind a few others I did same time but overall it’s probably a great release for warrior

Yep aka titan lol but yeah you have to know what you’re getting into with each stick purchase and when people are buying the smoke they really should know they just paid 450$ for an hour of use

Yep also a way around it. Usually only first step down is worth it after that Bette to hit pro, pro stock, stick rack deals etc

@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews team sticks are the best bang for your buck imo. Durable and still great features

@@GoatrTheGoalie teams for me a bit heavy but they def durable

The pro stocks could be stronger for sure

Thank you and appreciate the comments I always enjoy hearing what others think of some of this stuff.

So true lol

Haha sounds like a bad song movie line

That should be interesting

Sherwood bougth them quite few years ago

@ maybe we will get some quality products then

@@Max-sn5kt That happened in 2008 😂 I wonder why they they are only now just starting to do something with it.

@@NeNukee Are you saying that sherwood is bringing Tps back? Never heard of that! I think when they bougth them it was to use their technology for carbon stick back in the days, just like bauer did when they aquired itech/mission and easton

Once helicoid is removed yes they are better usually 1-2 down line

That is best lol

Lots on way !

Now that’s dope! Glad to hear

Oh me too…

The total one nxg one of my fav sticks ever just being that kick point in a new 380 gram weight and bam

Which warrior you rocking?

@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews Alpha LX pro. Backup is a DX pro.

@ excellent choices

I had a small suspicion that the new line went for performance and the durability will take a bit of a hit. It’s fine if they perform really well but hopefully isn’t an issue. A friend has one as well and I’m monitoring

I’ve had the VX for almost two months. Also used the old models for years. I got it caught in the zam doors during aggressive play and it held up. The paint on the back is basically gone from stick checks. It has some nicks on it but I trust it to last longer than big brand sticks. Granted when I weighed it, it came out to 373 grams. Mines a pro 21 curve 77 flex. I’d still love to see a video on these with a more scientific approach since experience is subjective.

@ 373 is a good weight to durability ratio (usually) and performance. His older sticks were a bit heavier so I figured he went for lighter and better performance

The new series feels great compared to the old ones in all facets tbh. I refuse to shell out $400 for a twitch so I can’t compare it to those but it doesn’t seem too far off from the first when shooting and stick handling, to me.

@ it’s probably pretty close. At some point I will get one at least to start prob in variable

Yeah? I’ve heard that a number of times from people

Yeah it wasn’t near as bad much stiffer and of course no helicoid

Haha. No kidding anders you still have ft6 pros or had to get something else?

@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews got a single one online in the required specs, but am considering the ghost as there's a good offer available. I believe the shaft on the ghost is the same as the FT6 Pro, but what about the blade? Is it a helicoid disaster? (should be a softer blade than the FT6 Pro)

@ blade sucks I did a repair on it video on my TH-cam few months back

It’s true I won’t be gaming a ccm for awhile

@@beerleaguebumhockeyreviews just "stick" with a previous model that works, as long as they're available. Let's hope the declining quality doesn't roll over to the other product lines.

@ they will eventually fix this but they eating it for awhile as stuff in production

Yeah but it made my comp crash and the durability one cut a min short but oh well I learned my lesson lol

I thought you loved the asv pro?

@ love is a strong word I said it’s “different” lol In the origins adv pro vid

Was it ha I just made up the reference but that’s funny

Good to know. I want to get one but budget probably won’t allow to many sticks out there right now

@ very true man, like your review True is the one company I can’t find anything good about haha warrior is at the top of the pack for me right now, the trigger 9 pro was awesome too but that blade is a liability. The qr6 has a pretty stiff blade as well stock, the ones I ordered from them has a modified p28 with the edge blade it and pigskin texture with little grip( I like my hand to slide easier) if I have any left by the end of the season I could send you one to try out but by that time it might be replaced or “old” news, and it’s not completely off the rack stock.

@ sounds dope I really liked the weight and balance of the qr6 in store and grip was amazing. Hey if it lasts sure haha

Warrior has a 2 month warranty, too

@ yes that is huge