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Skew Planar Plane Antenna – Range Testing November 2024
Range testing of the skew-planar antenna to determine the antennas gain/loss, polarization immunity and radiation pattern.
The measurements have also been compared with antenna modelling results from MMANA GAL modelling software.
Conclusion
The range test of the Skew Planar Plane Antenna confirmed that its performance closely matches the MMANA-GAL model. The antenna demonstrates strong immunity to path losses due to cross-polarization. Except for directly above the antenna, the radiation pattern is generally uniform and, again, closely aligns with the model.
It is important to note that there are trade-offs: achieving a more omnidirectional radiation pattern and immunity to cross-polarization losses comes at the cost of a gain reduction of approximately -1 to -8 dBd compared to a reference dipole.
The antenna, as used by model aircraft enthusiasts in the 2.4 GHz and 5.8 GHz bands for FPV (First Person Video), is well suited for this purpose and may also be beneficial for LEO (Low Earth Orbiting) amateur satellite communication-particularly on the uplink, where additional power can compensate for the slight loss in gain.
Antenna details: vk6ysf.com/skew_planar_wheel_antenna_Mk2_20241022.html
Video of Skew Planar Plane Antenna construction: th-cam.com/video/7wSREMFVDFg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=VHMKd2_Rfeq9O3v0
MMANA GAL antenna modelling software: hamsoft.ca/pages/mmana-gal.php
The measurements have also been compared with antenna modelling results from MMANA GAL modelling software.
Conclusion
The range test of the Skew Planar Plane Antenna confirmed that its performance closely matches the MMANA-GAL model. The antenna demonstrates strong immunity to path losses due to cross-polarization. Except for directly above the antenna, the radiation pattern is generally uniform and, again, closely aligns with the model.
It is important to note that there are trade-offs: achieving a more omnidirectional radiation pattern and immunity to cross-polarization losses comes at the cost of a gain reduction of approximately -1 to -8 dBd compared to a reference dipole.
The antenna, as used by model aircraft enthusiasts in the 2.4 GHz and 5.8 GHz bands for FPV (First Person Video), is well suited for this purpose and may also be beneficial for LEO (Low Earth Orbiting) amateur satellite communication-particularly on the uplink, where additional power can compensate for the slight loss in gain.
Antenna details: vk6ysf.com/skew_planar_wheel_antenna_Mk2_20241022.html
Video of Skew Planar Plane Antenna construction: th-cam.com/video/7wSREMFVDFg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=VHMKd2_Rfeq9O3v0
MMANA GAL antenna modelling software: hamsoft.ca/pages/mmana-gal.php
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Skew Planar Wheel Antenna for 435 MHz October 2024
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Skew Planar Wheel Antenna for 435MHz. October 2024 The skew-planar antenna features a set of elements arranged in a tilted or skewed plane, typically forming a triangular or rectangular pattern. This configuration produces an efficient radiation pattern with omnidirectional coverage, making it suitable for various applications, including amateur radio satellite communication. Antenna details: v...
Activity on the 2200m Band - August 2024
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Dipping my toe into activities on the relatively new 2200m band at 136 kHz. The antenna used was a 40m band sloper antenna with only a choking balun in the system. It works sufficiently well, though it is far from ideal at 136 kHz. The gear setup includes an AirSpy HF Discovery SDR receiver running with SDR# software. The decoding application is, of course, WSJT-X in WSPR and FST4W modes. The a...
70cm band mast-head pre-amplifier repair - 23 July 2024
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Repairs completed on mini-kits EME221-70CM mast head pre-amplifier. Repair involved the replacement of the surface mounted PGA-103 and PSA-0012 MMIC Amplifier chips. It was determined during the repair work that the PGA-103 chip was not faulty, however it was replaced as it was not worth undoing the work. On air test was carried out with the International Space Station repeater in a contact wit...
J-Driven Element for a 70cm band Yagi Antenna - July 2024
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With the goal of producing and easier to construct driven element for a 70cm band Yagi than the more difficult to construct folded dipole the Half Folded Dipole or J-Dipole popularised by Kent Britain W5VJB was selected as a more simpler to construct alternative. This interpretation of Kent’s design is an all-Aluminium construction and consistent with my previous construction techniques used fo...
435 MHz 5 Petal Cloverleaf Antenna - June 2024
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The 5-element omnidirectional horizontally polarized (Cloverleaf or Big Wheel) antenna is designed for the 70cm band (425 to 445 MHz). It is suitable for SSB and beacon use, featuring a neutral gain of 0.0 dBd compared to a dipole of the same frequency and polarization. This antenna is very broadband and, although complex to construct, produces consistent and replicatable performance results. T...
10m Band Beacons - 6 April 2024
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Various 10m band beacons heard from around Australia, New Zealand and Indonesia. Beacons heard: VK4LA, YB8BWN, ZL3TEN, ZL2MHF, VK3RMH, VK2RSY, VK3RRU, VK4RST, VK7RSC and VK8VF
Replacing Antenna Ladder Line - 11 November 2023
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My old 450-ohm ladder line, which had been in service for more than 20 years, was showing signs of deterioration-mostly in the form of cracking in the insulation due to the harsh Western Australian sun-and was due for replacement. At Perth Tech 2023, Donald Howarth, VK6JDM, presented a novel approach to constructing high-quality ladder lines. This innovative method involves using cheap vine tie...
Astronomical Society of Victoria Net Call Back - 22 September 2023
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Astronomical Society of Victoria Net call in on the 80m band (3541kHz) as received in Northam Western Australia. Astronomical Society of Victoria weekly net at 2200 EST. www.qrz.com/db/VK3EKH Astronomical Society of Victoria Net TH-cam stream. www.youtube.com/@VK3CSJ/streams
435MHz (70cm) 6 Element Yagi Antenna - August 2023
มุมมอง 12Kปีที่แล้ว
Design, modelling, construction, and testing of a 70cm Yagi Antenna, including antenna gain range test using a NanoVNA. The 6 Element Yagi-Uda antenna has a 10MHz bandwidth from 430MHz to 440MHz. Antenna construction details: vk6ysf.com/yagi_435mhz_6el_20230201.htm Yagi dimensions modelled with: www.changpuak.ch/electronics/yagi_uda_antenna.php JavaScript Version 12.01.2014, based on Rothammel ...
GAL174 Wide-band Driver Amplifier - 10 June 2023
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The GALI-74 driver amplifier is a straightforward design with a wide-band gain of better than 21dB, specifically designed to operate within the frequency range of 500kHz to 2GHz. Its primary application lies in serving as a transmitter driver, delivering an output power exceeding 18dBm at 1dB compression across the entire HF to 2GHz range. Tested with a NanoVNA configured with a bandwidth rangi...
National Ballooning Championships - May 2023
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video from the 23rd Australian National Ballooning Championships to be held in Northam, Western Australia from Monday 8th May to the afternoon of Friday 12th May.
Ballooning Championship - Balloon Glow Opening 6 May 2023
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Australian National Ballooning Championships, Balloon Glow Opening. northamballooningevents/
10m Band Propagation - April 2023
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10m Band worldwide propagation over a 24 hour period for April 2023 prepared with the aid of VOACAP (Voice of America Coverage Analysis Program). VOACAP: www.voacap.com/hf/ Sun Spot Number for April 2023 = 82 Centre Location: OF88II (31.64 S. 116.67 E) Model Assumptions: 80Watts SSB My TX antenna: Dipole at 10m height. RX antenna: 3 Element Beam at 10m height.
10m Band FM Contact - 9 April 2023
มุมมอง 187ปีที่แล้ว
Incredibly strong signal from Kevin, VK2KTG in Wilcannia NSW on 29.60 MHz FM at 07:30 WST (2330 UTC). Path distance from Wilcannia NSW to Northam Western Australia, 2526 km.
TS-700SP TX/RX Relay Repair - 24 February 2023
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TS-700SP TX/RX Relay Repair - 24 February 2023
Yamaha RX-V550 repair - 18 February 2023
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Yamaha RX-V550 repair - 18 February 2023
Radio Pirates on a US Navy Communications Satellite - December 2022
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Radio Pirates on a US Navy Communications Satellite - December 2022
Avon River High Water Katrine Bridge 18 August 2022
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Avon River High Water Katrine Bridge 18 August 2022
TS-50 Memory Battery Replacement - 13 August 2022
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TS-50 Memory Battery Replacement - 13 August 2022
Ghosts of the Avon Valley - Refractory Brick Works - 26 June 2022
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Ghosts of the Avon Valley - Refractory Brick Works - 26 June 2022
TS-450S Audio Fault Repair - 16 May 2022
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TS-450S Audio Fault Repair - 16 May 2022
TS-430S Receiver Filter Relay Repair - 12 October 2021
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TS-430S Receiver Filter Relay Repair - 12 October 2021
EME221 70cm PRE-AMP TEST - October 2021
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EME221 70cm PRE-AMP TEST - October 2021
Construction of a VHF/UHF Bias Tee - August 2021
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Construction of a VHF/UHF Bias Tee - August 2021
Snorkelling at Ningaloo Reef - 13 July 2021
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Snorkelling at Ningaloo Reef - 13 July 2021
Excelent work... i have oportunity to buy this radio but i am afraid because its too old... what do you think ? is it a really big risk to buy such old transceiver ?
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Very nice. Did you, by chance, build a 2 meter version? De WB2VUO in Amherst, NY
No, there no reason why you couldn't, however due to size there would some serious design considerations. I like 70cm for experimenting with antennas as the antennas are not too big and not small.
THANKYOU Peter! I found your video very interesting and to the the 4 thumbs down on your vid... Must have been 'typical' sad hams. Newer HAMs like me and others can learn a lot from your experience and knowledge and reviewing tutorial comments. There is so SO much diversity to our hobby and so SO much to learn. I hope 2025 is a good year for you and keep up the informative videos. You are obviously passionate, knowledgeable and keen to educate on HAM radio. Cheers.
Thankyou!! I actually found your video very interesting. 2200 & 630 metre bands are on my radar.
can a SWR meter be used for fine tuning or a variable capacitor
Great idea. Can you provide measurments?
Have a look at vk6ysf.com/yagi_J_Driven_Element_20250715.html
What a rare, fine and helpfull video. Just got into the same issue. Same type does not always switch on. So now I know where to start. Where did you get the IC replacment? The Type 2SK3491is not longer available even the replacment suggestion seems to outphased. .
I didn't realize you were on the youtube until today. Thanks for the great resources on your website.
Thank you for this wonderful video! I'm going to do this on my TS-930S now! KF8CKY - 73's!
Thank you. Interesting.
very interesting design to that aerial, imagine it fitting in a nose cone on a jet,
This experiment is highly interesting. Thank you very much! Keep in mind, it only gives us a (kind of) near field measurement. VHF/UHF Signals go several paths and are reflected in unpredictable ways. Each reflection causes a change in polarity. So this near field experiment is not what you might experience when operating in real life. The essential is, you will receive better on VHF/UHF using a circular polarized antenna.
Thanks! As you pointed out, this measurement is not as straightforward as it might seem, and multi-path reflections, as you mentioned, are indeed a challenge. My initial attempts involved placing the antennas much farther apart, which caused significant issues with reflected signal paths. The advice I received was to position the antennas as close as possible to mitigate the effects of reflections. The separation distance needs to be beyond the induction field, which is dominant only out to about half a wavelength (from memory), and ideally around 2 to 3 wavelengths. In this instance, I positioned them at 3 wavelengths, or about 2 meters apart. I'm still of the view that greater separation would yield better results. I plan to use bow-tie antennas, which are directional and can reduce nuisance reflections while providing predictable gain if constructed well. I also intend to take measurements higher above the ground to further improve accuracy. That said, I think there are far too many claims about antenna performance on the internet that aren't well-supported. This is my attempt to raise the standard. Watch this space-there’s more to come! Any advice or constructive criticism is most welcome.
Very interesting and maybe a good candidate for the SatNOGS projects. I wonder how this would compare to the eggbeater antenna and how it would react to a ground plane being placed underneath it.
Thanks for your video. I thought the cross pol measurement of -28dB of your reference dipoles was excellent confirmation of your setup. I am very interested in the cross pol loss when your reference dipoles are at 45degs.
I probably shouldn't say this without measuring it, but based on experience, the loss increases quite sharply as you approach 90 degrees, while there is only a very modest loss at 45 degrees.
@@petermiles6557 I guess it to be around 3dB, but would like you to demo if possible Thanks
Excellent work
Thank you.
Yes good video as I have the same radio and I will know what to repair. Thanks for sharing.
Very beautiful design! Thanks for sharing. ~ 73 ~ AC7WH
Great Job Peter! KD6ILO
Very Nice, well done great job.
Hi Peter if you need to do further adjustments after gluing 5 minute epoxy is soluble in / with hot water we used it to glue opal on to dop sticks and soaked them in hot water to remove Jb
I'm sure a neighbor has a tig welder, just gotta find em and figure the right bribe to turn that artwork into one permanent solid piece.
Can antenna like this be used to transmit a frequency to overwhelm or jam a toy drone?
Would this antenna work for LORA devices?
I think it is more for variable or unknown target polarisation, such as aircraft, satellites etc,
@petermiles6557 With thicker elements on it, the band range gets wider?
Good Joobs
This looks so Slick and interesting (I need to build one).. But how anyone ever figured out to use this Shape is, It looks like someone accidentally stepped on a QFH Antenna (And Discovered it still worked)
You need to build one....
@petermiles6557 I may do some experiments with simple (12 or 10 AWG) First to test performance.. However.. Looking at Radiation Pattern Graphs.. I don't like the Dead Zone at the Top.. (Testing will determine how bad) this will affect Satellite Reception.
The genius was to plug the data into the mana-gal modeling software. Very nice work.. John Limanowski N9DNB
There are lots of designs on the internet, however I like to include testing and modelling to verify that it works. I will post video of the testing to confirm the model in the near future (A project in its self).
Very cool. I've made a few of these type for the 1-2.5 ghz range to combat reflections for real-time video. They're really neat and fun to build.
They are fun to build. I will be trying some higher bands in the future.
What an interesting antenna! If for whatever reason I wanted left-hand polarization, I would perform the bending of the element ends opposite to what you showed here? 73
Correct
@@petermiles6557 Cool.
looks like an artpiece.very nice!
You need borax to solder silver
Fascinating. Thank you.
🤔Well done sir.
I was Thinking perhaps you could share the GAL File On your Web Page. Thank you very much for A good video
Zipped file at the bottom of the Skew Planar Wheel Antenna web page. vk6ysf.com/skew_planar_wheel_antenna_Mk2_20241022.html
Great work. To lower freq to 440MHz would you lengthen elements say by 5mm to 725mm? What type of N connector is that and where can a VK7 get one? I guess there is a 5mm nut under the as well over the smaller centre conductor plate fixing in place?
The element lengths are interesting in that they are longer than a full wavelength and I agree that an extra 5mm would place the antenna in the centre of the band. Standard N connector. Yes; correct there is a nut below the upper plate.
@@petermiles6557 Thanks Peter Regarding "Standard N connector" for what cable type and where should I look to buy one just like you used. Thanks Greg VK7GM
RG213, RG8 etc.
very cool PETER 👌73 de Clubstation OE8 XKX
Thank you very much, i ll try fixing mine. Just like yours the first piece seems to have changed value for me too
which VNA Software are you using?? is it SiLord???
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interesting video, the F/B ratio,? will it not suffer as the reflector , gets closer to driven, also the first driven plays a major role in impedance.. johan zs2cx
I'm rebuilding a 18ele 440mhz homebrew yagi. I'm not fully seasoned on this, but I'm using a high grade of RG6 here to feed most of my antennas here..HF/VHF and UHF with no problems. Question is how would using 75 ohm coax effect the length of the coax matching stub....assuming it's still needed? I appreciate your video....shows me much I needed to see, for my driven element is needing complete restoration, and it's director is gone. Thanks.
My understanding is that you need to have approximately 1 wavelength (per the video) of a different impedance coax. 125 ohm coax is commonly used however in my case and in some commercial folded dipoles 75 ohm is sufficient in a 50 ohm system. Also I have an alternate 'J' dipole driven element that I have used on the 5 element Yagi that may be of interest. See: th-cam.com/video/Ks5ZaZlLxgQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=zLFmS4h47eKxC4rF And web page: vk6ysf.com/yagi_J_Driven_Element_20250715.html
Thank you! Very helpful to see, and hear you describe, the repair techniques and considerations you had! As @fredvicary5935 suggested, it gives us confidence 🙂 I have two TS-450S's, one in California, one in British Columbia - both needing repairs. Any suggestions are most welcome! Thank you again.
Really cool Peter! I though that a J-pole driven element was a good idea, but was unable to find much info until now about how to employ it. I love the hose clamp idea with adjustable elements. The NanoVNA sure makes doing this a lot easier. I really like the use of a receive antenna and s21 measurements for comparison. Using flat metal also gives us the possibility of using old scrap material. Take care and 73- W1RMD
Thanks Ryan
El C 101 ¿No es de 6,3 Volt.?
Saludos desde mi país.. Mi kenwood Ts 450 S he detectado que solo sale con muy poca potencia unos 20 W en AM/FM/SSB.. este condensador que nos muestra ¿ afecta a la transmisión.? También he detectado que en la escucha en USb y en LSB no hay mucha diferencia al momento de escuchar pues se entiende con facilidad en las dos modalidad. Saludos cordiales y gracias por documentarnos... Saludos desde la zona EA... Ea2ecp...Operador Isidro
Thankyousir
ENJOYED YOUR VIDEO HOW LONG WAS THE 75 OHM BALUN FOR 435 MHZ. I AM BUILDING THIS YAGI
It is 690mm for 435MHz and the method to calculate this is at about 12min into the video. Keen to hear about your build results.
I just put the original globs that srew in back in looks mint i prefer the original clour but everyones different choice i purches the oringanal globs as nos and have enough to last forever 73s
Very interesting and informative
Actually, I did the same thing but I did not have to do that jumper. Once you clean the pads properly with solder blobs from the factory, aftermarket battery's tab are long enough to reach them. But great video nevertheless.