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the original is a bit darker... moodier (ironically). I feel like the change helped brighten the scene and made it less frightening. There are many instances where music is reused in this way. I'm trying to think of where you're meaning in the rampage sequence. It's silent until the bus crashes into the video store. Then the original cue comes in, cuts away for a few bars to similar rampage music but then returns to the original cue. The main theme from TLW was used a few times in the film (although only really intended for the credits) but that doesn't come in until Ludlow is cornered by the rex

@BrachioInGen Good points. It does lighten things up, which is a little ironic. I don’t know exactly where the Lost World cue is reused, but that’s what I was lead to believe.

I know the one! It’s probably in a few places.

It's a good score! Definitely one of the highlights of the movie.

It’s in his blood!

Lots of dead Vikings.

How do you feel about the other Jónsi songs?

Definitely! Things are looking up animation styles.

Minimalizing is in now!

I’ve heard Wish had deeper problems than just the animation.

Do you have reason to believe the textures aren’t hand-painted?

Thanks, I’m glad to hear it! What other John Powell scores do you know?

@@FilmScoreandMore Well he worked with Hans Zimmer on two first Kung fu panda's he worked on "ice age" and of course "the shrek" but from more recent one "the call of the wild" wich I also loved :)

@tuteles The Call Of The Wild is one of my favorites!

I’m glad to hear my videos are helpful to you! Keep practicing your performance and try some composing. Just keep working at it.

It would be pretty extensive! There are over 20 themes and motifs in the trilogy, which is probably too much for a single video. But I’m definitely making more and charting my way through. Edit: I may be able to work that into something, and I already have plans for a similar series of videos.

​@@FilmScoreandMore Cool! Btw, do you like Heine's book overall? I'm considering buying a copy, interested to hear your thoughts.

It’s probably the best thing for a comprehensive analysis of the scores, especially if you want to go deeper into music theory and technicalities beyond my understanding. It analyses influences on the score, every theme and motif, every cue from the trilogy, and contains a lot of exclusive interviews from John Powell. I recommend if it will be that useful for you.

If you bend it a little, yes.

Frequently.

Do you think it's possible Miyazaki would appreciate that visual artists are once again working with a pen in hand and that they share a passion for the 2D art style and nature?

@@FilmScoreandMore I doubt it. Miyazaki is/was a 2d animator before he started his company. While he is surely love visual arts, he was not a painting artist, 2d animator's work is about directing characters in each scene, it's a lot heavy and hard work depend on both drawing skill and film directing (good animator have these). And in a standard 2d pipeline, painting artist don't animate and cell (or digital cell) inking, they do (only) background picture painting which a skillful demanded work, but not as heavy as key animators/inbetweeners/line cleanups etc. This 3d painting mixed method is may be all good for 3d animation style and audiences, but have little to do with pull up or contribute to 2d animation works. I have watched Miyazaki's documentary a long time a go, following his retirement news and not sure he came out of retirement or not due to I stop fallowing Gibli studio news and the whole Western animation industries because my 2d animator career (in my country-TH) was ending, not enough work anymore. This vid was showing some classic and modern 2d animation that got me angry a bit. Sorry for it's becoming a long pointless rant.

@munarong I understand. Regardless, this movie may be a new step back in that “analog” direction.

Yes, there’s a Fate Theme from the first movie, one from the third that you’re talking about, and a Fate Motif. I know it’s confusing, I’m planning a video about it.

It’s fun, isn’t it?

Thanks! I just found that effect in my editing software and it adds a lot to that part.

Thanks, what do you like about it?

Yes, I plan to cover that one eventually. It’s simply the Hiccup The Chief theme for exactly that purpose. Powell used it as an example of how he scores character arcs instead of characters. Listen for it when Hiccup leaves Berk in search of Drago in “Drago’s Coming” and when he confronts Eret in the following scene.

Absolutely! He’s called himself less of a “composer” and more of a filmmaker in charge of music.

I’m happy to hear that! Have you seen my others?

Thanks for the sub! There are plenty more videos to check out on this channel! Have you seen the original video?

A lot of people call it that.

What do you like?

@@FilmScoreandMore that its both hiccups theme and fun viking theme!

@xRandom.editsx It’s an interesting way to use the theme! And it is fun!

There are a lot of themes to keep track of! It’s very easy not to notice. I don’t think I noticed for a long time.

Reminds me of how in the series of Harry Potter movies, some of the most memorable melodies that Williams came up with in the first 3 films completely disappear within a few movies, which is a bit sad but also may fit the darkening tone of the films better. It's not like something as vital as Hedwig's theme is renounced entirely. But I also didn't really notice that some of these sounds were missing until someone pointed it out. You remember them so well it feels like they were there the whole time.

@randomcommenter7343 I know what you mean. The changing of directors and composers did sacrifice some of those themes, but they still feel very much a part of it all.

That one is “Viking Theme,” explained in detail in the second half of that original video. Powell also said he prefers scoring character arcs instead of characters, so a number of themes represent ideas of who he is and aspires to be at different times. th-cam.com/video/l3QpqPDiT2k/w-d-xo.htmlsi=ggPGeplZIv1-hNb-

It can be effective, but it can also be distracting (and unnecessary). John Powell definitely has some more interesting solutions. Thanks for checking out the video!

2 shows that are really bad for this, IMO are the Rings of Power and the Witcher. A lot of people love the music for Rings of Power, and I think it's nice music, but the issue you mention is really distracting Love your videos

@JenksAnro I’ve also heard high praise for it, but I can imagine it gets old if it’s really musical character announcements.

Thanks! What was amazing about it?

@@FilmScoreandMore Tbh I've always called the flying theme (the first half of it) hiccup's theme and the second part hiccup and toothless's theme, The motif we talked about in this video I was referring to it as the Viking theme (or the 1st theme of the people) and seeing this point of view about the fun theme being hiccup's theme doing Viking things actually makes total sense! I'm glad you made this video :) PS: I made a Mock-up of the track "Into the hole" from httyd 3 and I'd like if you check it out cuz I'm a BIG fan!!! (sorry for my bad English it isn't my native language)

@Alexander-h5o Yeah, there are three distinct Viking themes (with this being one of them), so it gets confusing. You can send me a link to that mockup if it’s online, or email it to me! Have you seen my analysis of Into The Hole? Also, you’re English is perfectly fine here.

@@FilmScoreandMore Of course I've seen your "into the hole" analysis, I've watched almost all of you videos! The Mock-up is in my channel (this account)

@Alexander-h5o Good to know! I’ll check that out soon.

Thank you! What did you like about it?

⁠@@FilmScoreandMoreI think the reason I find your videos so interesting is that you explain an aspect (of my favorite soundtrack and music in general) in a very compact and simple way. With letting us hear parts of the soundtrack that you are talking about. And just talking about stuff that interests me soooo much that I didn’t know before. So thank you for that!

@Yoris302 I’m glad to! It’s interesting to me, and I think it’s important to simplify everything as much as I can. It does get complicated sometimes.