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Thanks! Yeah one downside of going commerece first is that it delays your first tradeport, and usually some upgrades on your astreoids. So it makes it somwhat awkward early. I used to go mining first because of this. However, the first two mining upgrades on your homworld gives a bonus of 1 metal & crystal/sec, while the two first commerce upgrades gives 6.6 credits/sec. Overall the commerce is quite a bit higher value if you look at the pure numbers . That excess of credits also makes it much easier to to build your second capital ship. I'm not 100% sure whether this makes it worth it to start with commerce overall, but I'm gonna keep testing it. And oh! I had not thought about that. Sounds like good value go for the universities instead. My only worry is that it would delay your early research. But should try it also.

No, sorry, I'm not sure exactly what that says.

Thanks alot! Yes I think you are right that the cobalts would not have had time to defend either way. I like to get the pranast united lvl2 planet item (though it was not available that game), but I have just recently discovered the expeditionary force lvl2 planet item. It is really nice that it gives a bunch of health regen. I also should useinfluence more often to get gaus cannons as you say. Especially if the opponent has a couple of capital ships!

Sorry to hear that. I recommend trying to play against real players. I can be a bit intimidating at first. But once you allow yourself to lose a couple of times it's a really fun game.

There are some mods on the in game workshop that help with the ai and tune there aggression to be more confident in taken even fights and even a few gambles might be worth trying if you haven't already

@@soopernoodle70 if a random person can code that why thee devs arent fixing this problem like for real...its so frusterating when the enemy AI keeps on running away from your defenses or fleet,

@@unoriginalthoughts796 i dont like PVP man , i dont play games to compete against another person, 99 % of pvp rts games are rushed , instead in rts games i like to have my defenses up and wait for the enemy to attack

@@avedis1990 I think many people actually prefer that the AI plays smarter by retreating when at a disadvantage. But I can see where you're coming from. Maybe you could try to use some mods that the other guy was talking about.

@@MathiasCzR01 Thanks! Yeah I think he quit mostly because of tilt. His ships could not deal with mine, but he would have a chance if I had to defend the other side.

@@doppelrutsch9540 Thanks for watching! You don't need mods for it! There is a button in the top left corner of the research window where you can toggle condensed/expanded view. It is right next to the search field.

Thanks alot, I really appreciate that! And yes, you should definitely go for an aggressive chokepoint if your opponent lets you. I think the general goal with enclave is to get any chokepoint, even if it is not an agressive one. That way you can build up to enclave's superior lategame. Garrisons and starbases are insanely strong but too expensive to get early on. If you try to rush those you get obliterated by an aggressive player, in my experience.

Have the that same problem, i usually Rush a bit ur build with the harckas so i can hold any atack and then slowly build the neccesary things for garrison and starbases ​@@unoriginalthoughts796

Thanks! Yeah I know you mentioned before that the Tilde key helps with checking orbits. I tested it before but for some reason it did not work. I went into the game and changed the key bindings now though, so it should work going forward! About the pirates, I think you are right that it could be nice to hire them for defense. I actually don't know if you can overcap your supply like you can with the freebooters. Gonna try that also! Edit: You do indeed need 100 supply available to call in pirate mercenaries! In any case that is another nice emergency defense tool as you say.

@@unoriginalthoughts796 good to know! thanks for doing the science on that one

@@volodymyrboitchouk Yes! That was certainly a mistake on my part. I simply did not think about it during the game. Could have had more defenses on the planets leading up to my capital also.

@@unoriginalthoughts796maybe even put a phase jump inhibitor on a couple systems leading to your capital might slow them down some more

Right! Yeah it is especially annoying for your opponent if they fail to notice and it traps part of his army mid-jump.

@@unoriginalthoughts796 appreciate these videos bro just got the game and have been learning a lot from you!

@@Layman927 Great and humbling to hear that! It's a really fun game with alot of attention to detail. Many things to explore and experiment with.

Nice! Glad to hear that it went well. I think you are right to add in radition bombs. I actually never use those, but they should be very strong when going aggressive like this. I will try that next time. And yeah, this game I just build a bunch of cobalts. But it is probably good to adapt your army more. Against capital ships you can research kalevs. Against strikecraft/corvettes/tempest vessels you can go for some gardas I think. Mix in a couple of cobalts/corvettes with that and the army should be more well-rounded.

My play group thinks that getting a Marza to lvl 6 for the AoE ability is one of the stronger starts, any ideas on that from a more pvp perspective ?

I don't think there is anything wrong with the Kol start. It deals very well with the neutral militia in the early game. Also, the Kol has very nice single target damage, expecially against capital ships. This is because of its two gauss cannons. Because of this I think the Kol scales slightly better than the Sova Carrier (at least combat wise). The Sova has some clear advantages early though. If the Kol deals very well with the neutral militia, the Sova deals excellently with it. Thanks to it massive amount of pd-autocannons it ensures that no missiles will ever touch it early. It also tackles light ships better than the Kol for this reason, and thus clears the planets faster. Combined with its strikecraft-squadrons, the Sova is a force to be reckoned with. In the mid to late game, the Sova's ability to speed up ship construction actually scales insanely well. For utility of course, not for combat.

@@IIIJG52 That sounds like a perfectly sound strategy. Marza lvl 6 is insanely strong. Of course, it takes quite a while to get lvl 6 with your capital ships, even if you get to colonize realtively undisturbed. The question for me would be if you find it worth it to sacrifice some early combat power for a big powerspike at lvl 6. In general, I am skeptical towards those who cofidently assert that "this is the strongest strategy" or "this strategy is weak". I'm not saying that your friends are doing this. But if they do, I think this is to hastily jump to conclusions. The game has no real competitive scene or mmr system. So I can't imagine that anyone has figured out the game from the competetive perspective.

Oh! Thanks for the heads up! I will look it up and see if I can't make something of those after all.

​@@unoriginalthoughts796 yeah if you're using steam, right click the game in the library and select properties then in the betas tab you can revert to the previous version and your replays will show up in the game. if you are on epic then you cannot do that unfortunately edit: fun looking build. it's way less expensive to roll the dice on tier 1 exotics surveys on a bunch of planets than it is to do tier 3 on your homeworld

@@EverIost Yes! Press your planet and go into advanced actions. There should be an option to rotate your structures there. Note that there the buildings are all disabled while rotating though!

It's mentioned in the tutorial too.

We call it "spinning the plate"

If Vasari you hord those for more CAP rush. If you TEC..... sell for more econ. Advent just find more carriers. heheheh

Thanks for the consistent feedback! I actually never sell exotics, so that is a very good thing to note. I usually only think about the derelict experience. But there is also the additional advantage of selling the excess exotics. Yeah, I thought that it probably could be a good idea to mix up the degree of video editing. Makes it more engaging to make the videos also. Again! Thanks for returning for my silly videos and for the consistent feedback!

you did a very good post game analysis as well that I forgot to mention

@@EmpReb Haha, simple plans for the win!

@@liquid2air Thanks! I'll try to keep doing them! And yes haha, I did not notice that there were no exotic market also. But if I'm not mistaken I think that the Transport Cabals only appear on larger maps. At least that's been my experience. Love spending influence to deploy their phase gates! :)

You can go CTRL+Shift+LeftClick on a stack of ships, and the stack will expand for all ships of that particular type (including your opponents ships)!

I appreciate the perspective. And yes! It is very frustrating to lose like that. I do think there are ways to counter it though. As with any cheese, scouting is key. If you see the bombers early you can prepare. I would suggest defensors since they are fast enough to chase down the bombers. Also, just getting one point in planet defense gives a very significant boost in planet health, and will buy you some more time. Vasari culture also increases planet health Regen. If you manage to kill the bombers, defend, and played otherwise properly you should then have a superior army and should be able to just run over the poor bomb cheeser. My opponent in this game would have definitely destroyed me if he managed to weather the first storm. Luckily for me he did not have his army in position.

@@unoriginalthoughts796 what makes this so potent with tec primacy is you can easily rush pirate bases with this and those ships have decent pd and light weapons which hurts those defensors. That combined makes it deadly, plus those pirate fleets also bomb planets too. I do agree scouting is important but it's still difficult to tackle. I love the game but the fact defenses can be so easily ignored is a big draw back to the game.

@@fatmanboozer1760 Yes the pirates are another story. Did not think about that. You are right that the pillagers have these nice light weapons against corvettes... Not sure how to tackle it on the fly. Perhaps just ordinary skirmishers are better at dealing with those! In theory against pirate mercenary bases, you either want to hit them hard before the 20 minute mark while they have a bad army and are teching up to mercenary base. Or you want to defend agaist the first pirate wave and try to build a better late game fleet composition (a fleet of only pirates is quite poor againts any serious fleet comp). That's the general theory as I concieve it. But I'm not sure how it would pan out in practice while playing Vasari... This is just another reflection on what you said, but there is at least one serious disadvantage to ignoring and going past defense. This is that it's basically a suicide mission for your ships, given that your opponent has at least some stuff to chase the bombers. Those are some thoughts. Need to try to play some more Vasari though.

@@unoriginalthoughts796 I try to build up a bunch of raiders early like 20 or 30 and send them to just take out orbitals of the oppenent, delaying teaching and causing some eco strain. Issue is who to hit in a FFA, don't want advent late game as they are nuts but also early spam of their missile ships but tec primacy have to be hit early or get pirate/bomber rushed. Unfortunately advent have all the tricks to deal with this l, hanger defenses means they will damage ships trying to fly through a system and recall sorts them out if they are out of position. There only weakness is there econ and even then culture giving surface crystals mining is pretty bloody good. Advent are probably the strongest faction in game but I'll always be a vasari player. Vasari need some more utility, hanger defence and some kind of antimatter drain ideally. I miss the subverters from sins1

Depending on timing theres 2 strong counters (rather mid/lategamey): 1. push influence with the tec-like neutral faction that grants you a planet upgrade with +5k health 2. starbase upgrade that shields the planet :)

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Ah! I will try that in my next game!

Do it! It's fun and we definitely need more players!

Yeah.. sorry about that... 😬

Oh ok, didn't know that!

Agree 100% ! Don't underestimate inspiring broadcast in the mid to late game though.

@@liquid2air Thanks for the tips! I'll consider that for the future.

@@unoriginalthoughts796 <3 your previous build was clear and good and this one was fun to watch

Tried this build order. It was so effective! At least we dont have to keep cheesing the ai in order to win!

@@angelolee9044 I really appreciate to hear that it works and that you took the time to share it. Good luck in your future games!

@unoriginalthoughts796 i also trally appreciate the guide. I really love playing the game. It's just so frustrating having to lose to the unfair ai 10x straight early to mid game without having to use exploits. I also shared your video to colonel damneders latest video. One commenter said never to use colony ships first! Boy was he wrong.

I'd also like to see guides from other races in future videos.

@@angelolee9044 Great! I'm still learning the game, but I might try some other races eventually. In any case, I plan to upload another video soon. So stay tuned for that if you are interested. :)

@@b9904 I respect that! Sova is definitely superior early. I personally enjoy a slightly later powerspike with the Akkan.

@@unoriginalthoughts796 my Sova start is rush Garrison with Shriken, then choke point with auto cannon turrets. Focus the Sova on mobile factory and mass production. I've held my ground against nightmare rushes with this. I have yet to try it on multiplayer though. Cheers. Glad you liking the game.

Yes, the game is a lot of fun! I would also like to try some enclave soon. Cheers!

Hello! I have an email, but if you do not mind, can I ask what you would like to discuss first?

The objection that we are not experience sucking machines is missing the point. The machine in The thought experiment is put forward as a fictive 100 percent risk of no failure machine. There would be no need to unplug and check your health. Complaining The machine is unrealistic is beside The point. Also. In this case I am not concerned with whether it would be a good idea to plug into the machine temporarily. The problem is that hedonism implies we should plug into The machine forever. Which is a very appaling idea If you ask me

I do not see any problem with stipulating a universe were doing nothing would end up enhancing your sense of pleasure. You are complaining my fictive universe must reverse other things as well, but why would it have to do that? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me you are making a straw man argument. You are twisting The thought experiment to make it easier to attack.

It argues against hedonism because hedonism implies we should do nothing and thereby enhance pleasure in The fictive universe. But doing nothing cannot be what is good for a person. Therefore hedonism implies we should act in a way that is bad for us which makes hedonism false. Now you might deny that doing nothing is good so long as it enhances pleasure. But i simply think that is wrong

It's an interesting idea that some sort of moral consistency together with the acceptance of happiness and unhappiness, should create some sort of higher order "existential happiness". To be proactive and having a positive attitude towards life, seems to me to be something like taking responsibility for yourself, having self respect and integrity. I'm curious what you feel about the "positive attitude" towards life. I'm curious wether we can live well, even if we are pessimistic? What do you think?

@@unoriginalthoughts796 When I say positive attitude, I mean the ability to see the bright side of life whenever is possible, no matter how hard and desesperate a situation can be. And also have the self-confidence to change yourself in order to change your society. I mean, we have to be the change that we want to see outside. We have to be intelligent, rational, with moral principles in order to be a model for others. It's more important your actions than your words, in order to change people and society. And about being pessimistic. No, I don't think that people can live well being pessimistic. The problem is that modern western society impose an obligatory and exaggerated optimism. The idea is to be realistic about life, with a little of optimistism, essential for the self-building of an individual, through experience, actions and reflexion. But everyone has the right to be pessimistic about life. The same way that people can be unhappy, in spite of living in a hedonistic society where happiness is the ultimate goal for human beings. Being happy is almost mandatory, and being unhappy because you chose that is almost like you are a weirdo or social outcast. Again, I want to be "ahappy". Finally, by self-building of an individual, I mean that an individual has to develop his character, thought, emotions, ethics, political opinion, etc from oneself. Nowadays, people are just being adoctrinated, without any critical thinking, accepting everything their family, school system, mass media and experts say.

Right! I definitly agree with what you say in your last two paragraphs. I would be somewhat critical about the idea that people can't live well as pessimists. Note: I'm not claiming that you can live well being ONLY pessimistic. Rather, pessimism seems to be a necessary condition for a good life, even if it's not a sufficent condition. For example, when you say that we have to be realistic about life, that seems to imply a certain degree of pessimism, correct me if I'm wrong! Another thought... is it possible we could imagine a profound pessimist with the belief that life holds no meaning whatsoever, and thinks negatively about almost everything, but still confronts life forthrightly in the belief that "It's the right thing to do!" If we can imagine such a person, then would that imply that a constant positive attitude towards life, is not needed for living well?

It's not about optimism or pessimism. I think it's more about living with realism, knowing what reality it is. And I say that is good to be a little bit optimistic to face life and reality and make yourself a strong, ethical and complex individual. But you can do that as being a little pessimistic, but knowing what reality is. And one of the things that people don't understand is that we live in a dualistic world. There's good and evil, light and darkness in the outside and in the inside of us. We are dualistic beings, we have bad and evil in our soulds, spirtis or conscience. What makes us good or evil as humans is the actions we choose to do using our free will. So realism is the most important thing to live a meaningful life. Then you can add optimism or pessimism, depending what you decide.

Thanks! I'm glad you liked it! I will be sure to check Rodrigo Mora out, maybe google can provide a rough translation. Indeed, my two upcoming videos will focus on the numerous problems of a "happiness-utopia". Since this video is just an introduction, you can expect the upcoming videos to be more interesting, and perhaps also a bit controversial in the modern man's eye. One thing I'll aim to show with this series as a whole, is not just that hedonism is false, but also that pain and suffering are really valuable to people, even intrinsically valuable. This is an idea that most people raise their eyebrows at, but I'm convinced that it's the case! If you haven't read it already, I would recommend Aldous Huxley's - Brave new world. The book portrays a really haunting future of a world where no pain exists, and man is but a domesticated pet in relation to the social order. The absence of suffering seems to give birth to a dystopia, rather than a utopia. Really great to have you on the team! I rest my case...

I've read "Brave New World" by Aldous Huxley, and it's what you've said. It's a happiness utopia that becomes a dystopia, cause pain and suffering are essential for human beings. When we imagine paradise as a place without pain and full of happiness, it*means the death as human beings. Then we become like the persons of Brave New World. We become as weak childs, who only work and live thanks to happiness drugs such as the soma, sex and food. These are only distractions, cause we live bored lives without any risk, any improvement any curiosity. Instead of that, I think we should adopt philosophies that accept pain and suffering such as stoicism. It's important to accept pain and suffering as inevitable and learn from it to become a strong individual in every aspect (mind, emotions and physical body). And also to value much more important things such as true freedom (with duties, responsibilities and moral boundaries), ethics, truth, love and justice. I look forward to your next two videos. Keep working on them. Have you read "On duties" by Cicero?

@@adriagarcia5524 I'm not very well read on stoics, but from what I've read I resonate reasonably well with their ideas! I'm i unsure wether they generally advocate some kind of eudaimonism-version of happiness or if they usually dismiss happiness as our highest value altogether? I actually haven't read on duties! Good tip though, I'll pick it up someday. Read a bit about The book online. Thanks!