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I play FE12, Engage, and a bit of Fates. I like LTC and love to see good level-ups.
The Last Ensage! Chapter 26 & Epilogue - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC in 47 Turns
Chapter 26 cleared in 2 turns, completing this maddening LTC by @keb4007 and me in 47 turns total. As explained below, 47 should be the least number of turns to complete the game on maddening difficulty (modulo the slingshot glitch that has been fixed in the latest version, or other unknown glitches).
The normal mode turnfloor run by @lapogne36 was completed in 40 turns. See th-cam.com/video/fn23nP306F0/w-d-xo.html for the 42-turn clear, and two addendum videos in the same playlist showing two possible turnsaves. Relative to that run, we lose 2 turns in C1 and 1 turn each in C2, C5, C6, C7 and C14.
In C1, the game does not allow crits until after the Marth cutscene. Thus, with the boss so tanky, it is not possible to rout the phase 1 enemies in less than 3 turns on maddening mode. For a similar reason, we cannot clear C2 in less than 4 turns because the game does not allow crits in phase 2 before the Sigurd cutscene.
Lapogne cleared C5, C6, C7 in 1 turn each with a strong Celica user who can Warp Ragnarok kill a boss hp bar and kill another bar in enemy phase. This relies on the retain exp option on normal or hard mode to reach the required attack benchmarks. On maddening mode, 2 turns are the best we can do in those chapters. In fact, even 100% growths will not save any turns in the above chapters.
As for C14, Lapogne was able to clear it in 1 turn because the hounds in that map only have 1 hp bar on normal mode. The extra hp bar they have on maddening mode makes a 1-turn clear impossible, as far as we can tell. But the situation turns out to be rather subtle, and we plan to make a bonus video about it in the near future.
Reclassing:
- Alear to Sage
- Citrinne to Bow Knight
- Mauvier to Sage
- Veyle to Sage
- Saphir to Thief
- Kagetsu to Theif
- Panette to Berserker
- Bunet to Sage
Key unit levels: why should we care anymore?
Blacksmith:
- Forge Revanche+5 and engrave with Corrin
- Engrave Cinquedea with Leif
- Engrave Ukonvasara with Byleth
- Engrave Thoron+5 with Eirika
- Engrave Croissbow with Alear
- Augment Aymr to mt lvl2 (all 20 mt crystals used up)
Skill inheritance:
- Chloe inherit Lunar Brace and Axe Power 2 (3 expert book, 1 adept book)
- Bunet inherit Canter
- Kagetsu inherit STR+1 (1 novice book)
- Saphir inherit STR+2 and SPD+2
- Veyle inherit Staff Mastery2 and Divine Pulse (3 novice book)
- Mauvier inherit Staff Mastery2 and Divine Pulse
- Hortensia inherit Staff Mastery2 (2 novice book)
Cooking:
- STR+3 meal with Chloe and Bunet for them to reach A support
Arena:
- Chloe*3
Staff Expenditures:
- 1 Rescue, 1 Entrap (1 Warp, 4 Rescue, 1 Rewarp remaining)
Booster usage:
- Chloe: 2 robes, 3 dusts and C24 boots to cap every stat except BLD
- Hortensia: 4 books and 4 icons to improve her Fracture hit rate on Sombron
The normal mode turnfloor run by @lapogne36 was completed in 40 turns. See th-cam.com/video/fn23nP306F0/w-d-xo.html for the 42-turn clear, and two addendum videos in the same playlist showing two possible turnsaves. Relative to that run, we lose 2 turns in C1 and 1 turn each in C2, C5, C6, C7 and C14.
In C1, the game does not allow crits until after the Marth cutscene. Thus, with the boss so tanky, it is not possible to rout the phase 1 enemies in less than 3 turns on maddening mode. For a similar reason, we cannot clear C2 in less than 4 turns because the game does not allow crits in phase 2 before the Sigurd cutscene.
Lapogne cleared C5, C6, C7 in 1 turn each with a strong Celica user who can Warp Ragnarok kill a boss hp bar and kill another bar in enemy phase. This relies on the retain exp option on normal or hard mode to reach the required attack benchmarks. On maddening mode, 2 turns are the best we can do in those chapters. In fact, even 100% growths will not save any turns in the above chapters.
As for C14, Lapogne was able to clear it in 1 turn because the hounds in that map only have 1 hp bar on normal mode. The extra hp bar they have on maddening mode makes a 1-turn clear impossible, as far as we can tell. But the situation turns out to be rather subtle, and we plan to make a bonus video about it in the near future.
Reclassing:
- Alear to Sage
- Citrinne to Bow Knight
- Mauvier to Sage
- Veyle to Sage
- Saphir to Thief
- Kagetsu to Theif
- Panette to Berserker
- Bunet to Sage
Key unit levels: why should we care anymore?
Blacksmith:
- Forge Revanche+5 and engrave with Corrin
- Engrave Cinquedea with Leif
- Engrave Ukonvasara with Byleth
- Engrave Thoron+5 with Eirika
- Engrave Croissbow with Alear
- Augment Aymr to mt lvl2 (all 20 mt crystals used up)
Skill inheritance:
- Chloe inherit Lunar Brace and Axe Power 2 (3 expert book, 1 adept book)
- Bunet inherit Canter
- Kagetsu inherit STR+1 (1 novice book)
- Saphir inherit STR+2 and SPD+2
- Veyle inherit Staff Mastery2 and Divine Pulse (3 novice book)
- Mauvier inherit Staff Mastery2 and Divine Pulse
- Hortensia inherit Staff Mastery2 (2 novice book)
Cooking:
- STR+3 meal with Chloe and Bunet for them to reach A support
Arena:
- Chloe*3
Staff Expenditures:
- 1 Rescue, 1 Entrap (1 Warp, 4 Rescue, 1 Rewarp remaining)
Booster usage:
- Chloe: 2 robes, 3 dusts and C24 boots to cap every stat except BLD
- Hortensia: 4 books and 4 icons to improve her Fracture hit rate on Sombron
มุมมอง: 982
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The Dark Queen Lives... Chapter 25 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 495หลายเดือนก่อน
Chapter 25 cleared in 1 turn, leading to 45 turns so far in this maddening LTC by @keb4007 and me. Another chapter where we flex on the boss the combat in this one is similar to the previous chapter, but the difficulty here lies more in getting the entire Lythos squad to Lumera. I made a mistake in the commentary: the Aymr mt augment will be needed for the final chapter, but not here. Vander ex...
Never Gets Old! Chapter 24 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 540หลายเดือนก่อน
Chapter 24 cleared in 1 turn, leading to 44 turns so far in this maddening LTC by @keb4007 and me. While we said back in Chapter 10 commentary that killing Hyacinth would be Vander's last combat, we later discovered this possibility of letting base Vander kill Past Alear, which is just too good to not flex in this run. Reclassing: - Alear to Divine Dragon - Citrinne to Sniper Key unit levels: -...
Exquisite! Chapter 23 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 3432 หลายเดือนก่อน
Chapter 23 cleared in 1 turn, leading to 43 turns so far in this maddening LTC by @keb4007 and me. A relatively easy chapter made difficult by the side objective of letting Citrinne kill Zephia with Astra Storm. Reclassing: - Chloe to Warrior - Citrinne to Bow Knight Key unit levels: - Alear 2.01 - Chloe 10 lance flier / 4 wyvern / 8 sword griffin / 10 lance griffin / 4.76 wyvern / 2.54 warrior...
Anna 2-turn ROUT
มุมมอง 1792 หลายเดือนก่อน
Not much to add to the video, except that Amber and Adaptable are both OP. Amber barely doubles Mitan with 4spd meal and additional 3spd from Rise Above. Adaptable makes Celine switch to fire against the armor in EP1, due to the high weapon stats provided by Celica engraving.
Fog of War ROUT in 4 Turns
มุมมอง 1745 หลายเดือนก่อน
Engage Maddening Chapter 6 routed in 4 turns, almost as fast as standard LTC. You can check this map to confirm that all the enemies are routed: fe17.triangleattack.com/maps/the_stolen_ring. In this video I used DLC ingots to forge killer axe 5, which adds 10 crit and makes rigging easier. But the same clear works without DLC. Vander with 11str, 6 momentum and 12mt Marth-engraved killer axe can...
Engage Maddening Chapter 5 ROUT in 5 Turns
มุมมอง 1935 หลายเดือนก่อน
I'm back! My Ryujinx emulator was crashing for a while, but it miraculously recovered after the recent update and now runs a lot better than before, without weird shades in the background :) Still not perfectly smooth but I will take this outcome. The usual LTC clear of Chapter 5 takes 2-3 turns, but it leaves a lot of exp on the table and in particular does not bother with the left side at all...
Elusia's Finest! Chapter 22 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 1.2K11 หลายเดือนก่อน
Chapter 22 cleared in 2 turns, leading to 42 turns so far in this maddening LTC by @keb4007 and me. While this is certainly the most difficult clear in the run, we promise that the upcoming victory lap will be pretty fun and exciting as well. The bad units tier list (about Lindon) by @DaniDoyle mentioned in the video: th-cam.com/video/RTNxnG3w06Y/w-d-xo.html We already figured out a version of ...
Mauv's Spaghetti... Chapter 21 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 568ปีที่แล้ว
Chapter 21 cleared in 1 turn, leading to 40 turns so far in this maddening LTC by @keb4007 and me. This is the third clear in the run that has 100% chance of success. Reclassing: none needed for this chapter Key unit levels: - Alear 3.28 - Chloe 10 lance flier / 4 wyvern / 8 sword griffin / 10.06 lance griffin - Ivy 9.96 - Kagetsu 13.05 - Panette 3.01 - Citrinne 4.46 - Hortensia 3.7 Blacksmith:...
2-turn Chapter 14 with Boots Obtained No DLC Edition (FE Engage Maddening)
มุมมอง 349ปีที่แล้ว
Keb and I didn't plan to publish this clear because it's a small variation of the one that we did in our run, see th-cam.com/video/t7NWWl35yYI/w-d-xo.html. But since a few people asked about it, we thought we might as well share it publicly. Apologies for the lag and no audio, as I did this recording on my poor laptop. This clear uses 5 Warps, 5 Rescues and 1 Rewarp, with two separate warp stav...
I Do Not Understand! Chapter 20 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 894ปีที่แล้ว
Chapter 20 cleared in 1 turn, leading to 39 turns so far in this maddening LTC by @keb4007 and me. We don't understand how we forgot to mention in the commentary, but this is the second clear in the run that has 100% chance of success. The attack benchmark for Sniper Citrinne to one-shot continues to rise, with her needing 65ATK here to kill Griss after Draconic Hex (48HP/34RES). Relative to th...
Panette consumes an absurd amount of Energy Drop and then performs an Override (1-turn C19 w/o DLC)
มุมมอง 2.3Kปีที่แล้ว
This video demonstrates a 1-turn Chapter 19 clear that does not rely on Griffin Chloe with the DLC Edelgard Emblem and boots. @keb4007 and I were somewhat challenged by @priestessii to find such a clear without DLC, and we are happy that we finally came up with this. For comparison with the 1-turn clear that we did in our run, see th-cam.com/video/xmwsBGmBHuU/w-d-xo.html. The current video titl...
Deadalyn! Chapter 19 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 907ปีที่แล้ว
Chapter 19 cleared in 1 turn, leading to 38 turns so far in this maddening LTC by @keb4007 and me. Credits to @lapogne36's normal mode 1-turn clear for the Edelgard flame gambit idea, which is brilliant and essential to this clear. And you can find @arxieFE 's April Fool's video about 1-turn Chapter 19 here: th-cam.com/video/HX4ENJnxjFc/w-d-xo.html Sniper Citrinne continues to shine, and here s...
Handsome Ship? Chapter 18 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 655ปีที่แล้ว
Chapter 18 cleared in 1 turn, leading to 37 turns so far in this maddening LTC by @keb4007 and me. This is the first clear in the run that has 100% chance of success, but it won't be the last. It seems that Citrinne can still kill the boss here without taking a spirit dust. She only needs 55ATK against 68HP/11RES, while in the video she has 47 5 3 2 = 57ATK when taking into account Momentum, Al...
Citrinne Bolts Through Nil's 50 RES in 1-Turn Fell Xenologue 5 (FE Engage Maddening)
มุมมอง 1.1Kปีที่แล้ว
Who needs chain attack when we have Citrinne attack? This video demonstrates a new strat to clear Fell Xenologue 5 in 1 turn. The previous 1-turn clears use either Ivy or Chloe to bolt Nil, taking advantage of Ivy's class skill or Chloe's personal skill to do real damage to Nil. This damage is boosted by skills like resonance and gentility , and it is further combined with Goldmary's double cha...
Ivy Stomps Timerra in 1-Turn Fell Xenologue 4 (FE Engage Maddening)
มุมมอง 683ปีที่แล้ว
Ivy Stomps Timerra in 1-Turn Fell Xenologue 4 (FE Engage Maddening)
2-turn Jean Paralogue after Chapter 5 No DLC (FE Engage Maddening)
มุมมอง 299ปีที่แล้ว
2-turn Jean Paralogue after Chapter 5 No DLC (FE Engage Maddening)
Beauty and the Beast? Chapter 17 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 993ปีที่แล้ว
Beauty and the Beast? Chapter 17 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
I'm Citrinne. Just Call Me Death! Chapter 16 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 691ปีที่แล้ว
I'm Citrinne. Just Call Me Death! Chapter 16 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
Chloe Sweeps Fell Xenologue 3 in 1 Turn (FE Engage Maddening)
มุมมอง 2.5Kปีที่แล้ว
Chloe Sweeps Fell Xenologue 3 in 1 Turn (FE Engage Maddening)
Rosado Dominates Fell Xenologue 2 in 1 Turn (FE Engage Maddening)
มุมมอง 1.1Kปีที่แล้ว
Rosado Dominates Fell Xenologue 2 in 1 Turn (FE Engage Maddening)
Let The Show Begin! Chapter 15 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 793ปีที่แล้ว
Let The Show Begin! Chapter 15 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
Where Shoe? Chapter 14 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 811ปีที่แล้ว
Where Shoe? Chapter 14 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
When You Wish Upon A Well... Chapter 13 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 871ปีที่แล้ว
When You Wish Upon A Well... Chapter 13 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
Cooking in the Desert Sands! Chapter 12 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 673ปีที่แล้ว
Cooking in the Desert Sands! Chapter 12 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
Wellcome to Destinea Cathedral! Chapters 10 & 11 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 909ปีที่แล้ว
Wellcome to Destinea Cathedral! Chapters 10 & 11 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
The Sage Lord! Chapter 9 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 1.1Kปีที่แล้ว
The Sage Lord! Chapter 9 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
Onigiri... Chapter 8 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 671ปีที่แล้ว
Onigiri... Chapter 8 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
Greatest Sacrifice... Chapter 7 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
มุมมอง 751ปีที่แล้ว
Greatest Sacrifice... Chapter 7 - Fire Emblem Engage Anything Goes Maddening LTC
Excellent run
Bro what is going on
This was very well done and also a lot of fun to watch! Good job!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
This was SUCH an awesome playthrough to witness! Honestly, just kind of in awe at everything you guys managed to pull off and strategize! ^w^ I have been meaning to ask tho- Was any sort of way you guys could guarantee good drops from the well with some sort of slight rigging, was it through luck, or something else? I have the attention span of a goldfish so I might have missed your explanation of it earlier in the run- But if there is something to it, I’d love to know^^ Wanted to see if I can try the same thing in my more casual playthroughs~!
@@tacoblm9570 Thanks, and glad you like it! Regarding the well, we did this run on emulator where it’s possible to mod the game to get 100% well drops. Of course, going to this extreme is only really useful for getting the absolute lowest turncounts. For a normal playthrough it’s more than enough to get 100% sp books, so you can work with a mod that only guarantees those. You can also rig the well manually - note that the outcome is determined at the time when you drop in the items, so you can make a save before dropping, make another save after dropping, then clear an arbitrary chapter quickly (adjusting difficulty to normal), and check the results before doing the actual map
GG. Very entertaining clears and enjoyed the humor you guys brought to the table
Thank you, GG!
VANDER THE GOAT
This is so based. I came here to check out the LTC, stayed for the witty commentary, and was rewarded for sticking around with some of the best boss conversations in the game, some of which I never would have seen otherwise.
Thanks, and glad you like it!
Congratulations to the both of you. This feels like the end of an era. What a joy to watch!
Thanks for the kind words! While this run is completed, you can at least look forward to some bonus videos that will demonstrate more surprises for engage LTC. And as we said, future runs will be coming!
I LOVED watching this playthrough. Great strategies and commentary. Very well done, super satisfying to see such a ridiculous conclusion
Thanks! We appreciate the support and hope you will stay around for more fun LTC content
What skills did you use?
You can see the skills in the video, or (partially) in the video description. But in short, Reprisal+ is the main skill on Citrinne and Panette, our two boss-killers
Some questions for the Ch26 Q&A - What were your least and most favorite maps to plan for? - How would you rank the Emblems from best to worst? - Do you have any plans to continue your rout LTC exhibitions?
These are good questions, thanks. We will answer them in the next video :)
That dialogue was crazy good, can't wait for the finale!
First time I saw this dialogue and damn...
There were like 15 lines of dialog in this video lol to which are you referring to?
YES. My Favourite sudden fire emblem LTC obsession. Let's go
That's silly. You're silly. I love it.
Not going to lie, I thought stopping after chapter 22 was intentional as a sort of flex, like "and everyone knows the rest of the game is one turn per map already so those maps don't matter" That said super glad to see you continuing, this series is great and both of you are great commentators.
Thank you! It was kind of a flex at the time, but then we really got too busy to continue :P
Great to see you're back!
Impressive. (First time Amber has been used ever)
Tbh he's got really good bases. That's mostly what we care about in LTCs
Nice job. This is one of the most heavily rigged LTCs I've ever seen!
hey Chiki, thanks, and it's good to see you back in action! If you are still interested, you can look forward to the full recruitment version that I'm working on. Back then I had a turncount of 133, but now I think I can push it down to 128. There will be some super crazy clears both in terms of reliability and in terms of movement :)
If by reliability you mean using a suspend save every action then... yikes. I don't have the patience to do that.
@@Chiki Well, some turnfloor clears unfortunately require that level of rigging... You'll see.
@@xsmu1729 If someone could make a perfect luck patch like they have for FE7 (and other GBA games iirc?) that would be really useful.
@@Chiki Yes, that would save a lot of rigging time. However, I've become skeptical of perfect luck because a few months ago I did some math and showed that certain sequences of outcomes are just not possible under the GBAFE RNG formula. So I'd rather spend time suspend rigging to make sure the clears are at least theoretically possible
Thanks Bouch (I don't know what for, but I like the guy)
loving the zelkov / socrates jokes 😂
What happened to the anything goes ltc?
Good question! We took a break after C22 because we were both busy, but the last few (routine) maps have been recorded. You can expect to see them in the near future
I know it's far too late to be giving this advice, but if you hold ZR when starting a battle, it'll play the animation if animations are set to off and vice versa, you don't need to set it manually in the settings each time :)
This was soooooooo satisfying to watch. Really interesting strategies, fantastic commentary, keen as hell to watch the rest
Thank you :) I hope you enjoy the rest of this run
Nice clear. Probably took a decent number of attempts to get
Always awesome to see alternative goals for LTC! Looking forward to the rest of this run
Doing a rout is actually mad interesting, this is dope!
thanks :)
engage rout ltc when ?
In progress. This is a turn save XS routed from an earlier clear of Ch. 5. The run is currently planning Ch. 7.
How did you manage to hit Ivy from that far with Astra Storm? I'd appreciate the help especially because this map is really annoying lol
I actually hate these maps so much that I might just match exactly what you did, and where I get most of what’s going on just based on their emblems, is there maybe a prerequisites list here? Like certain inherited skill builds and Bond Levels absolutely needed to reach this result?
This particular clear doesn’t require too much skill investment. Apart from Canter+, we mainly need to boost Ivy’s speed to double corrupted Timerra. And Zelkov needs weapon sync+ to do enough chip damage to corrupted Ivy (Etie could do the same with the base version of weapon sync). Some of my other 1-turn FX clears are more demanding - you may want to search for alternative 2-turn clears with less sp costs.
how you get the DLC i cant find a patch for them anywhere
I realize it has been three months but I came back to watch this video again; I totally forgot the preps were nearly 10 minutes long TvT Also, just out of curiosity, could Pandreo/Lindon/Hortensia not used those boots, or did you just want to let Mauvier cook?
Just sick!
MY WAIFU LOOKS PERFECT!!!!!!!
Edelgard is the funniest emblem in this game and its not even close
By funny you mean op?
Probably. No other emblem aside from maybe Michiah makes me question wtf the devs were thinking every time I see it used.
@@thelog6114 Right. I’d say Byleth is more op (slightly worse than Micaiah for LTC, but perhaps better in general).
Very possible. But when I see Byleth's Goddess dance, it makes sense because it was also in 3H as a Gambit. Edelgard's Raging Storm was also in 3H but its so much better in Engage lmao.
@@thelog6114 is that right? I don’t know anything about 3H because I got into FE after it released for a while, and haven’t played it yet
Ivy MVP Ch. 11??????????????/
Looks like a cool game btw
The game is fun, but the Fell Xenologue chapters are pretty rough on maddening difficulty when played normally
Hell, yeah, Mauvier! Give us nothing! That's my husband for ya!
Battle starts at 9:28 :) very impressive clear, without spoilers.
mauvier gaming
Routing this map in 2 turns was seriously impressive!! It made me smile knowing that this which too so long for me cleared so quickly
good god
Ch22 moment 😢
IMO this run has done an excellent job at proving that Kagetsu's stat lead isn't as big a deal as people like to act. I mean you are rigging Ancient Well stuff among other things, plus you are using DLC, but even if you weren't, I'm glad I seem to have turned out to be right when I found the more specialized Units to be more useful. 'Cuz at the end of the day, Kagetsu's just a genralist. A very good generalist, but still a generalist. Now onto the actual clear: dear lord, 2 Turns. I didn't even think it was possible. XD
Alright, I knew this would be a 2-turn because of how determined you both are to hit turn floors, but that doesn't make it any less entertaining to see it in motion. Hats off! Great gameplay, fun writing, and excessive drug consumption. I think I could hear Keb trying not to laugh as he tallied up Chloe's total booster intake.
Yep, he also laughed on that in C17 :)