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Your undifferentiated, obviously feministic driven praise of Clara Schumann is annoying - only her canonization is missing in your sermon. And besides: Was Mozart, with whom Robert Schumann compared her, really that advanced as a child? Goethe said the following when he compared the young Mendelssohn with the young Mozart: 'What he (Felix Mendelssohn) is already achieving now may be compared to the Mozart of that time as the developed language of an adult compared to the babbling of a child'.

ok, I suppose I shouldn't bicker here but- really- die Lorelei? with that melody?? and, of course, the -really- quite conventional Romantic harmony salad serving as acoustic in the background of this video is a pointed reminder that Clara-conventional-romanticist-Schumann could not for the life of her understand what the fuss about Liszt's b-minor sonata was all about.... RIP

So, two questions for y'all: 1) Do you think the triangle gave fodder to Schumann's collapse 6 months after Brahms moved in?, and 2) Do you think Brahms' finally giving up on Clara for marriage was timed with his transformation from gorgeous Adonis to grizzly bear mode in appearance? Cheers and thanks.

I thought I knew a lot about Brahms but didn’t know the 3rd Symphony was a gift to Clara. ❤

Wonderfully informative. Thank you so much for posting this video and for having a channel devoted to Clara Schumann - truly a musical genius in her own right. You have given credit to her and it was long overdue that she be honored. I feel she would be pleased with your efforts here. Brava!

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Lovely presentation of amazing facts. Looking forward to your book.

I’ve been saying for years that Clara was the greatest child prodigy since Mozart. According to Schumann she was a finished pianist at age 14. There was nothing more anyone could teach her about playing the piano.

Thank you for sharing ❤

was just listening to brahms sonata for 2 pianos a loving gift he wrote to be played with her I think

Thank you for another informative video! 🎹✨

Does make me wonder about the relationship between them. About the limitations that social constraints of the period placed on them. Love all three of them for the gifts they left us.

Thank you! And beautifully done.

I was trying to think of a companion piece for Clara’s b minor Romanze in a recital - you may have found one for me! I’d never noticed the link with the Brahms Intermezzo

Wonderful,thank you!!!

Simple, one is great, one isn't! I is quite obvious that Clara Schumann is uncomparable to a fictitional character from a Korean Drama, so it is good that someone pointed out the original characters of the story. I personally adore Clara more than Robert, I don't understand why she is so underrated ! Not to mention the fact that she is also a great pedagogy, which had made a great influence to the 20th century, the greatest century for piano recording.

If it wasn't for Joachim, Brahms and the Schumanns may have never met.

You're back!! I was looking for your video about the letters Brahms wrote to Clara but I can't find it, was it deleted?

What’s the music with this short?

Wtfff is this chaNnel about??go watch more korean love drama dont waste ur time posting this kind of videps and wasted my time thanks

I don’t buy this at all. Brahms was already an accomplished composer when he met the Schumanns. He was a very original musical genius. Robert Schumann heralded his genius to the world immediately upon making his acquaintance and before he collapsed into madness. Clara Schumann was a famous pianist but she never achieved fame as a composer. Yes, she shared her thoughts on some of his compositions, and she encouraged him in his work, but to call her a “mentor” is really too much. Brahms didn’t have a mentor and didn’t need one. I think that you really exaggerate her musical influence on Brahms. She was a talented composer but she didn’t teach him how to write music. That’s ridiculous.

I recently discovered your website and have been very intrigued with all of your essays about the relationship between J and C. I would be interested in reading their surviving letters and diary entries. Your conclusions make a lot of sense. Thanks for clearing this up for us.

Wonderful! Loved it!!!!

Thank you!

the greatest love story of all time I still imagine a teenage Robert seeing a 9 year old Clara destroy every kind of music imaginable, some considered unplayable and don't even get me started about and my obsession with Brahms. I am currently reading vol 2 of her diary.

Thank you! Clara deserves much more credit for Brahms’ career (and for her own accomplishments) than history has allowed her.

Thanks for bringing to light one of the true geniuses of that time...Clara Schumann...

Clara Schumann was the type of woman men adore. A highly successful woman that had 8 children. They don't make them like that anymore.

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thank you :)

as a German I love to learn more about this amazing composer and musician. thank you so much. :)

They really really respected Schumann

A bit of a tyrant?? What an understatement!

And an episode telling about Brahms relationship with Julie Schumann??

Yes I like Brahms. ❤️

Her "Konzertsatz in F Minor" is one of my favorites.

Clara Schumann and her husband regularly met with Brahms, Mendelssohn and others to discuss Bach. Even Wagner respected her knowing that she didn't like him as a person. She wasn't just Europe's most beloved pianist and a fantastic composer, she also was a widely accepted theoretical scholar in a field dominated by men. (I'm not a feminist, btw)

Intonation got me ridiculously distracted

I don't much like it when Wieck is stuck into her name.She made it clear in a letter to her future husband that she would be happy just to be known as Clara Schumann. I love all her piano works as played by Josef de Beenhouver (spelling?) Special a favourites of mine are the Piano Trio and the Piano Concerto. If I were a concert pianist this work would definitely in my repertoire. Too many lovely works for piano to mention all of them but that Nocturne in F major is a favourite of mine not only in Clara's repertoire but in the whole repertoire for piano

We will ever really know how far the love between Clara and Brahms went and maybe it's not our business. I have several hypothetical theories. It may well be that Clara decided she wuld rather be Clara Schumnann than Clara Brahms. Then Brahms in all his love affairs withdrew from marriage; he evidently didn't want to be tied up in a domestic situation. I remember distinctly that to one of these women - I forget her name - he suggested she should simply have an affair with him but without marriage. She was offended and withdrew. it would not have been easy to be his wife. He had bouts when he could be very aggressive and nasty even to Clara. In his later life in Vienna the Viennese accepted his rudeness and he could leave a party asking, "Is there anyone I have not offended?" His love came out in his music in which he drew out all his inner self for us, his listerners.

I read a story years ago about a party attended by Clara, Robert and Liszt. Liszt made disparaging remarks about Mendelssohn. Robert, who was a rather large , broad shouldered man for that age, grabbed Liszt by the coat collar, backed him into a wall and told him to not say such things about Mendelssohn, who was viewed by many as the greatest musical genius of that time. Schumann was a mild mannered person, but Mendelssohn was his best friend.

Another bio of his states there was no grounds for saying they had a love affair . Only referred to as ,friend, unless you have sone papers or letters no one else has seen.😂

She always loved him? Bramhs always knew that? They had 40 years friendship? I’ll tell you? Stop making question marks plz

Can you stop like every statement of your’s making a question.

I read a letter from Brahms to Schumman. He sayied to him he lovers her wife. But say "I love you" in that age is the same what we sayied in Brazil. Tell "my love" is a informal and courtesy way to deal with peoples. Mendelssohn loved so much his elder sister, Mozart and his elder sister looks like two bitches talking one to another. Brahms probably have Clara like a elder sister, mother probably. They act like a Elder son taking care of Schumman kids.

This is a pretty skewed interpretation of history.

Clara wrote a Konzertsatz in f minor. And also a Konzertsatz in a manor?

Excellent video. One point I would dispute however, is that Clara was the most famous pianist in Europe mid 19th century. By far and away it was Liszt.