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The Westland Whirlwind
The Westland Whirlwind was a British twin-engine heavy fighter introduced during World War II. Designed for speed and firepower, it featured four 20mm Hispano cannons, making it one of the most heavily armed fighters of its time. It was particularly effective in ground-attack roles, successfully targeting German trains and infrastructure. However, the Whirlwind's development was plagued by issues with its Rolls-Royce Peregrine engines, which were underpowered and unreliable. These problems, combined with the priority given to other aircraft like the Spitfire and Hurricane, led to limited production. Despite its potential, the Whirlwind was ultimately retired by 1943, replaced by newer aircraft such as the Hawker Typhoon.
Whirlwind Merch: my-store-fc6c0b.creator-spring.com/listing/the-westland-whirlwind
00:00 Introduction
00:44 Origin
01:36 Development
07:00 Prototypes
07:44 Specifications
08:36 Problems
11:40 Operations
16:37 Thoughts
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  • @brentwestbrook
    @brentwestbrook 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Proper development and project management should have seen it match the Mosquito. But quite difficult in times of conflict.

  • @MarkFarrington-hb2ne
    @MarkFarrington-hb2ne 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It is like an early version of a dehavilland hornet to me 6 years ahead of its time. Big mistake in not pursuing it's development and giving it the right engines. I think the perception of the ME110 failure probably gave the wrong perception to Dowding

  • @apfelsnutz
    @apfelsnutz 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I think you are absolutely right ! The Whirlwind was an unexplored wonder !!! Bravo for the video, one of a very few on the plane ...

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Very glad you enjoyed it.

  • @wingmanjim6
    @wingmanjim6 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Apparently, there were reports of the cannon mounting system being a bit too flexible causing some problems with gun function and aimpoint stability as well. I imagine this problem woud have been solved rather easily if the Whirlwind had been built in greater numbers.

  • @foreverpinkf.7603
    @foreverpinkf.7603 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    A real beauty of a plane.

  • @stevemartin7464
    @stevemartin7464 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think the Whirlwind is one of the best looking aircraft of ww2.

  • @paullevins5448
    @paullevins5448 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My favorite british fighter the whirlwind , and the typhoon!

  • @user-oo8xp2rf1k
    @user-oo8xp2rf1k วันที่ผ่านมา

    They had to make choices about production resources. But it's a great shame it didn't get better engines. If it had the Battle of Britain - they wouldn't have just won - they'd have minced the Luftwaffe. But hey counterfactuals and hindsight...

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files วันที่ผ่านมา

      "counterfactuals and hindsight" indeed. But I tend to agree :-)

  • @potrzebieneuman4702
    @potrzebieneuman4702 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting video, I've always liked the Whirlwind and knew about the engine problems but never knew about the props.

  • @bobrobinson1576
    @bobrobinson1576 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why is it that when a land battle is won the general gets the glory but with the battle of Britain Dowding barely gets a mention?

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files วันที่ผ่านมา

      True. I guess people don't understand the tactics and strategies applied to aerial warfare.

  • @VoorTrekker88
    @VoorTrekker88 วันที่ผ่านมา

    kinda looks like a prop driven ME-262

  • @martinwilson7246
    @martinwilson7246 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fascinating to receive some actual info on a plane I knew only as an interesting-looking plastic kit 60 years ago. Very valid comment that a similarly-effective design which needs one engine is preferable to one which needs two, since there are then engines for twice as many aircraft! Sometimes difficult to accept that much of what defeated Germany and Japan was not only skill and bravery but - perhaps even more - hardware: tanks, jeeps, trucks and... fuel.

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is no doubt that the US being able to provide the "arsenal of democracy" saved Britain in terms of fighting equipment.

  • @mongolike513
    @mongolike513 วันที่ผ่านมา

    To just look at the whirlwind tells you everything that you need to know.

  • @alexmarshall4331
    @alexmarshall4331 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Surely "duraluminium"?

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files วันที่ผ่านมา

      The rear fuselage was a magnesium alloy.

    • @alexmarshall4331
      @alexmarshall4331 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Aircraft_Files Earlier in the video it referred to the airframe being made of aluminium...I recalled from my very limited experience in the 70s working for a small company designing airframes that all used an alloy of aluminium...ie.duraluminium(excuse my spelling)👌

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@alexmarshall4331 most were, or wood / cloth :-) Not sure where i picked that up, i'll take a look, but maybe word spell checker got me... it has before.

    • @alexmarshall4331
      @alexmarshall4331 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Aircraft_Files Hey thanks for getting back...bit embarrassed to admit that my time in the 70s where I was involved in "aircraft" design was...wait for it > I was employed by "Wasp" to design and build hangliders...also taught how to...was involved in R&D of the "Nova" that may have had a "lift to drag ratio" of 10 to 1... HUGE for 1975👉☮️👈❗

    • @EbenBransome
      @EbenBransome 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Duralumin is slightly denser than pure aluminium, whereas low magnesium alloys are easier to work with and a little less dense. They don't need heat treatment and are easy to form so good for panels. The oversupply after the War resulted in them being used for cladding Land Rovers, the alloy used on our Land Rover being about 3% magnesium as per the XRF. Birmabright alloys are (perhaps surprisingly) more sea water resistant than Duralumin so good for aircraft that will be used in coastal areas. By WW2 magnesium/aluminium alloys were in wide use. Apart from Land Rovers they also found their way into some Rover and of course the VW Beetle. The Defender is cheapo steel.

  • @barnbersonol
    @barnbersonol วันที่ผ่านมา

    We can't make anymore because we need any spare RR engines for ... Fairey Battles. Duh.

  • @rustykilt
    @rustykilt วันที่ผ่านมา

    I often see it as a precursor to the DeHavilland Hornet , which appeared to take some inspiration from the Whirlwind.

  • @mitty76
    @mitty76 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Reduce its speed by 24 mph is actually false.😊

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh i found 2 sources that said it was... but happy to be corrected.

  • @timcatherall1357
    @timcatherall1357 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My grandfathers cousin Geoffrey Warnes DSO DFC flew with 263 squadron. First RAF pilot to wear contact lenses. He was sadly lost over the channel in 1944 after his Typhoon had engine failure.

  • @narabdela
    @narabdela 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting subject matter, but that narration was dire. I had to give uo after a couple of minutes.

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sorry to hear that. I wrote the script and went for a generic 1970s BBC voice. Unfortunately my own voice is terrible and the times I tried to narrate I flubbed so much I had to give up

  • @hasimoncuocsonguc7062
    @hasimoncuocsonguc7062 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love to watch your videos

  • @PeacePetal
    @PeacePetal 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In other words THE SEXIEST PLANE OF 1940

  • @user-xh3lz9xt4l
    @user-xh3lz9xt4l 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was going to say why didnt they just use Merlin engines

  • @nickbannister775
    @nickbannister775 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting that both whirlwind squadrons were not far from their manufacturer Westland in Yeovil Somerset, it’s as if even the air ministry weren’t a hundred percent sure in the aircraft. On a personal note my grandfather and father and various relatives were involved in the whirlwind’s manufacture having been there since it was known as Petters.

  • @AdmV0rl0n
    @AdmV0rl0n 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a fine video. Good stuff. It was a good plane, certainly in its time, but as you highlighted, the props were a thorn in its side.

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you enjoyed it,

  • @UncleJoeLITE
    @UncleJoeLITE 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pretty decent emergency fighter. Cheers from Canberra 🇦🇺

  • @Will_CH1
    @Will_CH1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Westland should have re-engined it with Merlins.

    • @mothmagic1
      @mothmagic1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Unfortunately they were not allowed to due to the powers in control of the equipment procurement were worried that Merlin's would be in short supply, a situation that didn't happen. The design was far in advance of anything else around at the time

    • @Will_CH1
      @Will_CH1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mothmagic1 The same issue put a hold on mosquito development. The Whirlwind would have been a good test bed for a pair of W1X or Halford H1

    • @onenote6619
      @onenote6619 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mothmagic1 It's not so much that they were not *allowed* to, but the re-design required would have made it a completely different aircraft and required a lot of resources. Since cannon-armed single-engine fighters were already in the pipeline, the reasons for it's existence had become much less relevant.

    • @ericadams3428
      @ericadams3428 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It would have needed a complete redesign which it got and came out as the Welkin, a high altitude fighter for which there was no use by the time it was delivered.

    • @Will_CH1
      @Will_CH1 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@ericadams3428 That is an accountants answer.

  • @stephengardiner9867
    @stephengardiner9867 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That aircraft had potential and was pointed in the right direction. Heavy armament, single crew, visibility for the pilot that was superior to any other contemporary British fighter or fighter-bomber. Imagine! An aircraft designer realizing that it might be a good idea to be able to see just who might be preparing to ruin your day! It had the potential to be the British equivalent of the American lightning. It needed refinement, more reliable and powerful engines, and simply better tactics. It got none.

  • @PMercedesMorris
    @PMercedesMorris 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My husband was just published the book here in Australia via Avonmore books.

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh post a link and I'll pin it up top.

  • @billdyke9745
    @billdyke9745 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What if? How about a pair of jet engines? Whittle had a prototype running by 1937. Would have been a world beater. As it was, a great design went to waste thanks to Rolls Royce and DeHavilland.

  • @brendanmccabe8769
    @brendanmccabe8769 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Surely Dowdings comment about not wanting to use 2 engines on an aircraft where single engined variants could do the job at least as well made good sense. Also seems that this aircraft employed several overly complex systems, not good at any time but particularly so in something which is expected to suffer damage.

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It did make sense. and i agree was too cutting edge on many fronts.

  • @barrysteggles1014
    @barrysteggles1014 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fantastic looking aircraft

  • @silverwolf3745
    @silverwolf3745 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    One of my favourite planes along side the Mosquito, for the mid to late 1930s it had a lot of innovations as you said including the Bubble Canopy which became standard later.

  • @gerhardris
    @gerhardris 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice video on a truely great what if fighter. You state that it was intended as a long range fighter. Its range and armament however shows that it was intended to knock bombers out of the sky. It was devised at the same time as the Fokker G1 prototype that had counter rotating props that the later P38 Lightning had. If indeed having the wlhat if Whirwind with Merlins the correct counter rotating props even with two in stead of four 20 mm in the nose with more ammo besides directly going for the "folly" of Mosquito's, providing top cover.......... 17:48

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I saw one source saying the speed requirement was geared to be 30 mph faster than a bomber. But only one so i didn't include. Also I think the belt fed autocannon was not yet around.

  • @MisterOcclusion
    @MisterOcclusion 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The belly landing footage is something I've not seen before

  • @Peasmouldia
    @Peasmouldia 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I lived and worked at Charmy Down back in the late seventies. All the RAF buildings were intact, we used them as feed stores. Some still had the bomb trolleys outside. One building had parts of an aircraft's landing gear half buried in one corner. I was told that Charmy Down was a satellite airfield to Colerne, and had Hurricanes stationed there. That landing gear definitely didn't come off a Hurryup though, that's for sure.. Very nice vid. Thanks and blessings.

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Cheers. Glad you enjoyed it.

    • @BrianWMay
      @BrianWMay 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My dad was there in the war helping to set up the two Whirlwind squadrons. I worked at Colerne in the early 70s, a super station to serve at.

  • @trevormillar1576
    @trevormillar1576 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice thumbnail.

  • @mandoprince1
    @mandoprince1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Whilst the appointment of Teddy Petter almost certainly owed a lot to nepotism, there is no questioning his ability. After leaving Westland, he designed the Canberra and Lightning for English Electric and the Gnat for Folland. Henry Folland had been intending to retire and recruited Petter as chief engineer and deputy managing director. When Folland did retire, less than a year later, Petter became the managing director. Sadly, orders for the Gnat were conditional on Folland being merged with Hawker Siddeley and the effective demotion this would have caused, along with his wife's declining health, prompted Petter to resign.

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I should not be so mean, but Teddy Petter was notorious for being difficult.

    • @mandoprince1
      @mandoprince1 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Aircraft_Files He certainly seems to have a reputation that way. Perhaps being promoted to such a senior position at a young age didn't help him in that way.

  • @kiwidiesel
    @kiwidiesel 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a dark horse favorite of mine in war thunder.

    • @kayallovertheplace
      @kayallovertheplace 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kiwidiesel it's a damn shame it costs too much to play

  • @kayallovertheplace
    @kayallovertheplace 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Put some effort into your work you slime

  • @kayallovertheplace
    @kayallovertheplace 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Military aviation history

  • @kayallovertheplace
    @kayallovertheplace 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is just an automated intelligence channel that somebody put up to get all your likes and all your money so don't buy into it go to a real channel

    • @kayallovertheplace
      @kayallovertheplace 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So you are HUMAN?

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Of course Im human. Goodness please calm down.

  • @kayallovertheplace
    @kayallovertheplace 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Okay dude your images that go along with your speech do not match at all you are showing yak 9 early jet fighters talking about cord with of propeller fighters on Mark 1 hurricane and spitfires you obviously don't know what the heck you are talking about and should stop now and leave it to the freaking professionals

    • @BarryHarper-pc2wu
      @BarryHarper-pc2wu 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yaks my earole

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Happy to take on constructive criticism. Sometimes i miss things in my research and love it when i earn from the comments.

    • @kayallovertheplace
      @kayallovertheplace 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Aircraft_Files thank you for responding kindly to my admittedly harsh comment. Respect. If you want somebody to overview videos beforehand so that continuity is accurate I'm more than willing to volunteer sometime to watch what you have

    • @biddyboy1570
      @biddyboy1570 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@kayallovertheplacedid you get out of the wrong side of bed? Your original comment isn't feedback or criticism. You were being an arse.

  • @kayallovertheplace
    @kayallovertheplace 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey guys! What if a Mossie and a Beaufighter had a devil child?

    • @wingmanjim6
      @wingmanjim6 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Well, the child would have been older than one of its' parents........🙂

  • @barrybristow4646
    @barrybristow4646 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Boomerang, a beautiful and useful aircraft.

  • @luvr381
    @luvr381 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Always loved it's look.

  • @rob5944
    @rob5944 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So did Rolls Royce arrange for the props to be installed in order to help kill off the aircraft, possibly with De Havilland?

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is a dark idea indeed.

    • @rob5944
      @rob5944 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Aircraft_Files well it'd make absolutely sure Merlins were available for their Mosquito.

  • @markaxworthy2508
    @markaxworthy2508 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    About a quarter of them were paid for from South America, particularly Argentina. The British community in Buenos Airs set up a fund raising organisation called the Fellowship of the Bellows (so called because bellows make more air power!). It spread over South America and was widely subscribed by pro-Allied Latin Americans. Other types were also funded this way, particularly Spitfires.

    • @wingmanjim6
      @wingmanjim6 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Very interesting - thanks for this information !

  • @uha6477
    @uha6477 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent vid. Sadly it wouldn't have made sense to re-design the Whirlwind for the Merlin engine because one of the main selling points of it was that it didn't use the Merlin. Sadly the prop issue was something no one had any idea about at the time, the Peregrine needed further development, the Whirlwind itself was expensive to produce, and difficult to service. Had there been other more experienced designers working alongside Petter I think some of this would've been caught in time, but it was still a cracking plane. A pity none were preserved.

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well put sir.

    • @ericadams3428
      @ericadams3428 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There were plans for an improved Peregrine which was shelved by RR so that was the end of that. A Merlin engined version was also proposed by Petter but the Air ministry had lost interest by then although there were were shades of the Whirlwind in the later Welkin.

    • @howardchambers9679
      @howardchambers9679 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Unfortunately Petter was renowned for not listening to people he thought beneath his intelligence. By that I mean everyone, he was also quite abrupt.

    • @mickvonbornemann3824
      @mickvonbornemann3824 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They did upgrade the Whirlwind design with Merlins, but obviously Westland didn’t have the right connections in the RAF. As the RAF demanded it had to be a special high altitude fighter with really long wings & decided they only needed less than 200 of them.

    • @uha6477
      @uha6477 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@howardchambers9679 Yeah, that was also evident when he designed the Gnat (refused to give it bigger wheels for rough field operations because it would mean a bulged gear bay door). The man was a genius, but...difficult to get on with...

  • @Theogenerang
    @Theogenerang 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That pilot at 13:49 appears to be doing some serious sideslipping for the photo op. Look at the rudder.

    • @Aircraft_Files
      @Aircraft_Files 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A lot of the Whirlwind pilots were canadian, so I'm not sure what you are intimating ;-)