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I get it. Following the covid 19 response by Bethel NY my eyes and mind were opened wide. The failure of Bethel to callout Totalitarianism as Brother Rutherford did in 1939 shocked me to the core, instead we were told to do our civic duty and take the jab. I now have a black N95 facemask with a purple triangle. Shock or awe. What can they say? So many brothers are psyoped into wearing Tyrian Purple. I almost did too. Un Habitat org turned HOA run subdivisions in the Philippines into internment camps. For three years unvaxxed brothers were banned from the Kingdom Halls and viewed as selfish and disloyal to the Faithful and Discreet Slave and possibly apostate especially if you talked about Nuremberg violations and the attack on humanity. There was a JW convention in Nuremberg, Germany in 1946 a talk was entitled "Fearless Despite World Conspiracy" Page 268. Where was the fearlessness during covid 19? Everyone I know said they would do whatever the governing body told them to do regarding vaccines. Who really is the faithful and discreet slave..? I believe I received Bible truth from JW's but it doesn't matter from who or how. It was from Jehovah for sure. Christianity isn't rocket science, and the brotherhood helped me to know the truth and recognize the doctrinal lies that Christendom uses to control the masses. Thank You always. Even so, I will never knowingly support a lie. I will not abdicate my conscience to another human or a committee. Adam said that the woman was responsible for him going against his conscience. Adam followed the lie! God will judge us individually. "God...will himself finish your training, he will make you firm, he will make you strong". 1 Peter5:10 Wait on Jehovah.to set matters straight. Endure. Take care. I knew they would drop the beard restriction after covid19. It wasn't about giving permission it was about not being punished for doing something natural and manly.

My son & I gave our letters on each of baptism date. Mine was this week!

11:49 i guess i found an interesting answer. My doctrine about how to deping with elder's commitee, is dodge questions like "do you belive we are[trap questions like "the true religion"]"

She really thought arguing with the elders, not being humble and questioning the process was going to get her reinstated….. yikes I’m not surprised she got rejected. Questioning the process is questioning Jehovah and his way of things. That’s a big no no.

If you're not baptized into an organization what gives the organization the license to disfellowship a person?

READ DE 18 VERS 20 TO 22

The truth is the Lord Jesus Christ. When you join the JW you are not joining Christ you are joining an organization. These people don’t know anything about YHVH they know what the satanic governing body tells them about the Bible and God and Jesus.

Forget about the truth just live in ignorance like us elders and the governing body. Just live in the deceit of Satan.

Tease Russell was a Templar. The foundation of the JW are steeped in the occult.

How can someone’s wife leave them for a religion.

How can a Smart western person fall into the hands of deceitful men like the JWs.

Many years of deceit. Thank God you got out.

Why were you is this Satan created religion? The founder was a Cultist. He got all his teachings from the pyramids. He is in hell today for creating this satanic religion.

Amen Brother.

Typical mumbo jumbo, incoherent, grammatically brutal conversation between 3 men who barely had a high school education; can't structure a sentence intelligently, and seem to possess supernatural powers of reading a person's heart. Same old "you need more time", or we need more time to gather information from our spy network",......blah blah, blah. Although one of the brothers actually had a grasp of the mercy Jesus showed to known sinners, the man on the torture stake next to him before dying; and the sin of King David. Too bad he didn't stand strong for Jehovah and reprove the other 2 dickheads with that object and clear lesson taught over and over again by our King Christ Jesus! I could list many examples of when Jehovah and Jesus could have "disfellowshipped" their servants or followers, but didn't. They exercised loving kindness, mercy, and forgiveness. I've asked 3 times to be reinstated and either been denied or ignored. Finally wrote the Watchtower Society HQ department that oversees bodies of elders, with an 18 page letter of exposure and counsel on why they were wrong to DF me, and why they were wrong to refuse my reinstatement multiple times. That's OK, brothers and sisters who listened to this video. Jehovah forgave and reinstated us as his spiritual sons and daughters as soon as we prayed to him and either turned around from a bad course, or persisted in a good course of life despite being falsely accused of sin.

It's so gross. These are just men.

These stupid, self-proclaimed JW elders will follow the Biblical rule at Deuteronomy 17: 2-6; but will IGNORE the part of the law just a few chapters over at Deut. 22: 25-27? There it describes the right of the raped girl to expose the rapist, by her word alone; and to require that the pervert be stoned to death!! Wake up Watchtower! Their biggest problem in almost all doctrinal or conduct matters, is that they DON'T READ THE CONTEXT OF ANY SCRIPTURE!

Come back to Jehovah, what they really mean is come back to watch tower so we can control your behavior the information you consume your thoughts in your emotions you do not question anything or you will be shunned oh, and by the way, donate all your money to us because Armageddon is right around the corner.

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Where in the Bible does it say that disagreeing with the teachings of the governing body and talking to others about the false teaching of the governing body is a disfellowshiping offense ?

Miss you Eric xxx

It's chilling how they sound exactly as their own portrayal of the pharesees

I’m 3/4 thru this. These guys are idiots. 1975 does not matter! Don’t worry about dates just believe in Jehovah ? Pathetic!

Does everyone know how to get in touch with this brother?

It's sad that this religion cause some to not believe in God anymore. Leaving this religion doesn't mean you are learning God or Jesus. They don't have the monopole of God or Jesus

Only us that have been molested can do what Derek does!

Wow, would love to know how he's doing now

I was wondering where that 3rd elder was. I laughed when he finally spoke because he represents the real organization. The real organization isn't about love. I feel sad for those other two elders because they're trying to show love but being overridden by the asshole elder. And that's how it goes. You can't be loving AND be a Jehovah's Witness. You choose love or JW. It can't be both.

13:50 that is NOT what the Bible said., group counseling is better than one!! So evil!!!

11:19 these guys are sooo manipulative! He evades the 1980 issue with a false flag of teaching the Bible!!! To answer yes there are many people and organizations teaching the Bible correctly! Using it to serve God and serve people! Those who have translations that are correct non-manipulative! Ones that teach what is taught in the Bible that people are important, truth is important, to see Jesus and serve Hod! Not like the WT that forces manipulates deceives!

9:00 sorry that is INCORRECT!!!! God NEVER commanded rape! Yes he did execute judgement on evil societies! There was a purpose and He is God! This JW hearing is ridiculous, sorry you are having to go through it! Notice the persuasion or manipulation from the JWs! They do not stay on topic, they look to accuse, they don’t discuss substantive question, they distract! There is God, there is Jesus, there is man, fortunately we are redeemed through Christ! Look to the scriptures NOT an organization! No organization!!!!

How can they call it The Truth? - In the last three centuries EVERY prophecy jws have made turned out lies 🤷🏻‍♀

These elders got their asses handed to them! Hell yeah!

I can't help but feel deeply for Issac because he is like a sacrificial lamb to the organisations slaughter and they have basically drilled him a new one.

I was brought up and raised as a JW when my parents started studying and got baptised in 1973, i was then 11 yrs old. I left the JW faith at 16 in 1978. Over the decades i have had a bit of a study on and off and read a publication. I have struggled to keep my integrity to the teachings of JWs because of the guilt i have endured from time to time. It is so difficult to follow the strict guidelines and regulations so i have reached the stage after listening to all these videos on TH-cam to withdraw and i have even told my elder friend here in Oldham to watch some of the videos i have posted from here. I have since listening to all these video recordings felt sick in my stomac and feeling somewhat confused with everything so i an stepping back as i hate feeling guilty or ashamed, well not no more.

That elder in the back that said we are not martyrs, is a major dickhead. I know because I have one in my family who loves to df people.

It's hard to listen to these douche bags!

It amazes me how elders disavow any responsibility when it comes to shunning. If JWs are already shunning, why the announcement? That is directly owing to the decision and action of the elders. If a JW talks to someone suspected or accused of apostasy there's no judicial committee. But if he talks to a df'd or da'd person accused of apostasy the elders form another committee.

wonder what chael is thinking 11 years later

I don’t care what people say or think. JW’s have the true way of serving, honoring Jehovah, and following Jesus.

He can’t ever be an elder, but he needs to be prosecuted for his crime of abusing the child. Just one thing this does not happen with JW’s, but with Catholics, Protestants, Mormons, Jews etc. and they all sweep it under the rug.

Tell me now: what hope do you have? Heaven is out of the question, so is living forever on earth when you leave the truth. Pride, ambition, and fear of man are the main ingredients leading apostacy. Convince me of your newfound-believe and I will join you!

Idiot elders.

Your only an apostate if they are 100% correct and can prove it, which they can't. What you know is true and can prove most of it. What jws shovel is bs lies dogma and opinion. Protect their real estate tax free empire!!!

My husband who is not an elder is just like these guys. He accepts that i wont attent meeting & that i dont want any witnesses around me. But if i were to talk to him like this...i cant have hime leave me. We are seniors & have a limited income. Not much of it comes from me. I am very ill with several life threatening illnesses & cannot be left alone. So i keep my thoughts to myself & watch videos when he is away from home. Also, i attempted suicide a few months ago. It was touch & go for me. This organizations kills. I have never in 42 years made a lasting friendship in here.

What does his story about running away from communist country try have to do with them willingly participating in UN card to ise the library or whatever.

So if the dates they set up is wordly history can we then say that the entire relegion is wordly? What makes people trust that what is being told to him now is not worldly history too?

Information overload. To much talking. You spoke down AT them. I’m surprised they allowed you to talk for so long. I wouldn’t and I’m apostate. I stopped listening a quarter way through. I don’t know how they didn’t roll their eyes at you. They had a lot of patience. You didn’t. Anyone would forget what you said. To much. To much. To much.

Threatening is not an act of love