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I do disagree that Spartans would just be discontinued. Since their success rates were much higher than an astartes. I'd imagine you'd have the spartans be like a specialized guardsmen.

Lmao i got into a huge debate recently with a friend of mine who SWEARS the 40k universe claps forerunners period. I just told him look man, just say you dont know that much about the forerunners. They give new meaning to "overpowered". ESPECIALY at their peak. I mean im pretty sure they once altered the axis of the entire milky way galaxy just to see if they could.

Counterpoint: The Tyranids created a psyker lifeform, something they didn't really have before, by eating the spirits of an Infinity Circuit, which allowed that single lifeform to oneshot basically anything the Aeldari, a 60 million year old species, could throw at it. They would find some way of taste-testing the flood and becoming like it at the very least. Also Trazyn would probably find 5th Dimension, almighty visitors from another dimension to be an interesting addition to his collection, and find a way to preserve some Flood for himself, and drive the rest of it away or something. Comparing the Tyranids to the Flood is not comparing the Flood to 40K's actual strongest faction. Most of them are not even sentient.

Too late Covenant are Furrys now

Can you do Halo flood vs Necrons, Nurgle, and xenomorphs.

Flood vs the Necros?

I'd say the Lamenter would win. He'd lose an arm, a leg and open a portal that dumps an entire UNSC contingent along with half the SPARTAN force on his doorstep. But he'd win.

Id personally say whether or not the Flood dominates depends ENTIRELY on how well Neural Physics work i the new setting the Flood finds itself in; is it able to 'connect' to the pre-existing Gravemind consciousness? Is it able to form burns in a late-stage scenario? Does the Flood's BS magic trump the BA magic of whatever it's trying to eat? These questions are the crux of "what would need to be answered to analyse the Flood in settings other than its own", and can massively influence it's effectiveness.

Was the helican sub sector area the galactic north in 30k? The galaxy spins around after all, idk how fast though.

5:01 I was just flash banged by an image

I always thought the tyranids and flood fighting would just result synthesis

All with tyranids and Old ones had sense they are pure biological weapons like orcs and, eldari for old ones but orcs and eldar was able to fight necrons yes tyranids are able to clean all other races but not necrons so is some species missing in equation cause orcs and eldari was able to fight necrons but not defeat them nids are able to wipe all other but no necrons so one part of equation is missin and thats biological weapon or race that defeat necrons att all cause necrons was in the end real enemies of old one chaos doesnt care about destroying species cause in the end they souls ends in warp , nids cant really fight necrons.. so on one side tyranids can be they re creation but on other side probably not cause nids not fixing they re biggest proble,..But is possible the Old one thinks orcs and eldari will defeat necrons and nids will just clean it for them..But this is aslo no true eldari after birth of slannesh are practicly pathetic and orks was able to defeat tyranids..I think tyranids are created by old ones but they probably go rouge and hive chosee they all goals that will had most sense because they avoiding necrons so they must had some knowledge about them so tyranids must be from war of heaven times or maybe after old ones left nids just change to this form like kroks change to orcs ...More sense will had if tyranids are creation of necrons .. because nids are able to defeat any biological life but necrons was not able to save their own lives and nids are little bit fat beyond their knowledge in biological weaponary also they chosse annorganic tech at all .. their are more machines now with weapons very good against biological life so this doesnt have much sense too..i like this theorey it had so much sense but tyranids are just too weak against necrons and that doesnt had much sense and if you losing war against somebody you dont really look for scnearios what you done after you win..And old one are not good guys cause they refuse to help to necrontyre and they just change to necrons..

It's a stalemate, they are basically the same. Two virus-genius-hiveminds that will duke it out until eternity to sustain their own forms. Neither would be able to ever overcome the other. As they consumed the universe they would be constantly trading while simultaneously devouring the entire universe and all sapient species. At a certain point unless they developed a universe spanning super weapon, or commandeered one along their path, they would inevitably split the universe in 2 and feed on each other for eternity.

I think the most terrifying thing about the flood is that, within the Halo universe, the only logical explanation for why the milky way hasnt been consumed yet is that, apparently the flood simply dont want to consume it yet.

Switching between halo infinite and space marine 2 you realize the gameplay is more hit n run like due to lower in health but more flexible movement in halo compared to a space marine where it’s all about pushing the enemy because of your tankier build

An Iron Warrior would take this easily.

ok not big on Halo lore so not going to try and be like blah blah blah blah but from the video it sounds like the Flood are the old ones just with little twitches to them but also we do not have to full story or more then a 10th I would say of the tyranids so I don't know who would truly when but in my thought they would just fuse that's all not fight

Flood could win but Tyranids would never give them a chance with their far superior firepower

You remind me of pancreasnowork

wait, wheres part 2?

I think the problem is we know to little about the tyranids and just how many galaxy they have consumed and so if the flood did infect the 40k galaxy it would just be another threat in a galaxie there are several OP factions like the necrons that would wipe them out and considering the tyranids will consume and even infect organise if a fight did happen woth the tyranids and flood id say the tyranids would win they are perfectly made for war and can constantly change and the flood would have to deal with the tyranids down to every size even microscopic and the fact that the tyranids mivemind intelligence is beyond anything we can imagine with life from multiple galaxies and maybe even different dimension. I just feel that they are both the same but tyranids being more OP and better suited to consuming all life

The scales of the two are laughably out of balance. The flood wipes the tyranids and it's not close

Spoiler In the new books the precursors are revealed to have been the flood from the start they seed a galaxy with life consume it all then do it over again feeding of the experiences of the species. With this revealed the flood literally farms the galaxy for food.

I don’t agree but fun video

11:52 did johnson straight up laser you? 😂😂

The Emperor was on the verge of transcending into a god before fighting with Horus. He was stopped by his friends that didn't want him to loose his humanity. So, the Emperor had the potential to reach Chaos Gods level of psykic might

Space marines eat Spartans 😂😂

I agree with the last point. Precursors probably exist everywhere else, and they probably don't care about the Flood running around in the Milky Way. Considering they can take any form and their technology in genetics they could most likely reconfigure flood back to their original forms or whatever they want but just not doing it because it's unnecessary. To them, every experience is an experience.

I have been saying various similar things for a long time, and I am just glad that someone who makes content is saying those things now.

I like your unsc what if so i thought pop this idea here like one of your other video i commented on. What is the Star league Exodus fleet found themselves in the warhammer universe? In their universe they eventaully turned into the clans and weapons and tech were superior to what the innersphere had. What would happen if Kerensky and his exodus fleet ended up in warhammer universe? Doubt they would become the clans so love to see do a what if with with kerensky and his exodus fleet

What if the Star League exodus fleet found themselves in the warhammer 40k universe?

I wonder how a faction from star craft or star wars would do in the warhammer 40k galaxy.

Macro-cannons would obliterate Covenants flag ship (smac is nothinh compared to macro-cannons), covenant has shield, that's pathetic they lose to UNSC who don't have any shield while Imperium all thier of ships have void shields.

The way I see it, Spartan IIs aren't so much faster than Space Marines, but a hole fuck of a lot more agile. Space Marine armor is insanely bulky and restrictive in movement compared to Mjolnir, and because of that, Spartans can pull off things that SMs just can't. Think Spartan vs Hunter, the Hunter is a hell of a lot stronger but they move in slow motion by comparision.

I don't know how the tyranids work, do they have to consume, as in eat or absorb biomass to expand? If so, they would naturally try to consume flood biomass and be immediately infected by flood supercells

Necrons made them because they are the good guys. 👍

1. We don't have enough information on the Tyranids. 2. The Necrons. 3. Warp f*ckery and the chaos God's. 4. The C'tan. These are but the most prominent problems for the Flood.

God the Flood sounds so much lamer with the multiverse stuff lol.

There needs to be a crossover, where the flood are travelling through the multiverse and come across the 40k universe. Eventually opening up contact between both universes. Where all races join together to take on the Flood and the Tyranids. I could see the Flood and Tyranids allying until its just them two left, the final showdown.

gotta love how people forgot about gene bombs... basically designed to wipe out blood lines and such...

As a staunch 40k stan, I completely agree with the logic. Precursors sound utterly busted, powerlevel wise. As with all cross-universe/fandom comparisons, it's definitely important for us nerds to recognize the narritive space these creatures fill. The Precursors act as a backstory to the backstory for the reason that things are how they are in Halo. The Tyranids in 40k are literally just another hyper powerful faction in a world of hyper powerful factions to play as in a tabletop game. Balance, scaling, and general "fairness" in 40k usually goes to the tune of "theyd wipe everyone *except* (reason)" and the Nids are no different. The Precursors do not have that kind of narritive limitation, and win by default by that simple rule. John Halo doesnt have to be able to fight a Precursor in the game, so they don't have to be killable by him. Tyranids do have to be killable by Space Marines, and the rest of the forces in 40k. It's hilariously that simple. Dope video

talking about halo universe with specific minute details. the warhammer half random planet 47. also ngl i feel like the issue is how the universes systems work. like with halo it is information based ai vs the flood is who has the bigger data pile. i don't think you can apply that to 40k. here is my thoughts from a tactics and war effort stance (keep in mind i grew up on halo and only got into warhammer in my teen years i love both before people say im picking favorites because i grew up more with halo) the flood is an infection type entity that uses hosts to grow and spread the range of what they can infect seeming to be anything from organics to ships and robots or ai. the nyds are not an infectious race rather more like an economy of meat if everything is put into the military and they steal their income. they will adapt so long as bio mass is available and once they notice the flood infection and how it works (the first time a flood infection form is either consumed or infects a nyd unit) then they will adapt to this new threat sometimes on the spot but lets say not faster than an infection form can take over a nyd. they would still become immune and then the flood would no longer be able to spread through the nyds as the nyds would take ground using the bio mass to grow stronger with every flood form that falls. with nothing to infect they become easy mass for consumption. i will say tho its not like the universes are on the same level i mean the halo guns are relatively unremarkable using real world rounds just with armor penetration capacity then 40k every gun fires RRCs Rocket propelled Redbull Cans...that are also have armor penetration and explode after lol

Does it even matter? Halo is basically 40k for bros anyways seeing as how that franchise and basically every other Sci fi ip stole their creative ideas from 40k in the first place. At this point of you're making a Sci fi you're either ripping off 40k or dune lol. Creativity is a dying concept

I'd say since the tyranids are a living hive mind and the flood is a lich the flood will win out. That's like hoping small pox infects vampires or zombies.

I don’t see that as fair to a salamander fr I mean chiefs armor is augmented to his specifications chiefs gear is his preferred gear why can’t the salamander use a combo bolter which they often do and not mention the salamanders are the largest and physically strongest marines and are often depicted as incredibly durable like the death guard I think a salamander is one of the hardest fights out the legions mainly just because if the salamander got ahold of cheif he honestly could probably crush moljnir with cheif in it salamanders are no joke that’s like the only one I disagree with but yeah if we give the sally what cheif would encounter them with cheif would probably get one shotted by a melta pistol or manhandled in hand to hand it would be like a wrestling match between big show on steroids and ray mysterio if it wasn’t scripted

Do people forget the flood can use weapons and tech, and there's no limit for how advanced it can be? Like huh end of forerunner war 5 million forerunner ships were under flood/mendicant bias control I can see the flood totally going nuclear on a different plague instead of wasting time conquering it

Bro, you completely forgot Nekrons in 2A. They'd eradicate the flood pretty easily, especially since its interdimensional they have no connection to a Grave or Keymind and have no means of fighting inorganic matter with weaponry that'd eliminate them on an atomic level with populations in the billions. Edit: maybe they get information of the Nekrons through space Marines but that gives them absolutely zero edge in fighting them since humans are incapable of replicating their weaponry, considering even the dark age of technology pales in comparison to some Nekron weaponry and especially their super weapons.

Original halo lore is 10/10 top shelf quality

wait i dont get the argument here. it kinda feels like just saying i think this so its true (as far as the precursor side goes) its also irrelevant when it comes to who would win should they for instance be gunning for the same galaxy/biomass. i think a better way to format this is looking at their aspects like adaptation, rate of consumption, and how vast they span. regardless of who you think wins this didnt really answer anything outside some head cannon. as sound as it may seem its safer just to stick to the actual lore. also as far as my opinion goes the flood yes are a bigger threat in their universe but also their universe is way less op than 40k with characters like the emperor who can hold the warp shut with his brain vulkain who cant die chaos who are empowered by gods the space marines that are bigger more insane Spartans orks that change reality by thinking it. so making the comparison by how big a threat to their world they are dont matter when one world is more op. that aside i would like to see a debate on the topic like i said before

The way I see it the flood can consume the Tyranids but the Tyranids can't consume the flood. Since the flood is a super infection the Tyranid force would just basically turn into flood forms. The only counter I can see the Nids having from the top of my head is making flood resist generations but that would depend on whether the flood infection is too powerful to resist.