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Hi im seth and im making a smash bros fighting game Xenofighters

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Will you have a gather/craft system for things like health/mana/stamina potions and making/repairing weapons and armor? If you will, might I suggest instead of putting gatherables (flowers/mushrooms/ore/wood) on a simple timer, have them respawn in a different area after gathered to keep map exploration relevant and the location of resources always changing. I've never seen a dev implement this and I would love to see it.

This game looks good, but the combat system showed is identical to the type used in souls games, which makes it look like it is at risk of becoming an unimaginative and uninspired dark souls clone. You should only copy from other games what you think is ideal for the game you're making, and that is usually never all of it. If your game is not combat-focused, then copying Souls games is probably fine though.

Was this really a movement-heavy combat system though? It seems like it's just a separate movement system and a combat system. The movement doesn't seem to add anything to the combat, so I predict that players will only use the movement system when they want to run away from fights, and ignore most of the move set when fighting enemies. I don't think you should advertise your game as something it's not, but if you manage to actually implement a movement system that enhances combat, it would be a huge selling point. Wishing you luck!

Movement for movements sake doesn't feel very compelling until you incorporate some form of need or advantage to using that movement. Unreal Tournament comes to mind and so do the old Prince of Persia games. Another good example is if you played Ori and The Will of the Wisps. I don't see it in your video but using a mix of fluid animations and physics in the game makes the movement feel way better. Especially if movement is going to be a core mechanic, polishing it until its fun to just run around. Not just play well but feel good. Its looking great, but a good game usually sets itself apart from others just because of the amount of polish you've given it.

Lock on systems are tricky. I think I prefer systems that auto locks on, because there is just one less button you need to press. For my own game I also use that. I use a "priority" system. So enemies that have a high priority ( bosses and harder enemies that deal high damage ) will be selected earlier then enemies with a low priority level ( enemies that are small or deal low damage ). Once you attack an enemy it will automaticly lock on. I then use a timer. If you attack again before the timer runs out, the lock on will be extended ( and the timer will be reset ). For small/esay enemies this timer runs for a short time, while for harder enemies and bosses it takes more time before the timer runs out. You can also "break" the lock manually just by using manual camera control and rotate away from that enemy. My camera also stays mostly behind the player ( I allow it to rotate an offest to both sides ). I prefer that because it makes switching from melee to ranged attacks ( use a bow or gun ) faster.

Why is it movement-heavy? I don't see any benefits from wallruns or climbing. Or even any way to quickly get behind an enemy or enemy-lines to take out an archer. The combat seems not movement-heavy at all, it seems like you are locked in while attacking, basically just standing around, going one or two steps back and then forth again for your next attack. Mirrors Edge has a movement-heavy combat, but the best example is Overgrowth. In Overgrowth, combat IS movement, the dropkicks, the physics, it's all about speed, positioning, dodging and countering. If you look up some gameplay, you will see that there is never a moment where a character stands still in front of another character and swings a sword.

It would be cool if you can throw rocks to distract the enemies, and then back stab them xD. I think it can be really fun, and it's easy to implement :)

God of war has a great GDC talk about combat and the problems they had to solve to make it feel intuitive

That bow bug is probably from the rotation of back bone, guessing it's self correcting very similar to how fps camras get vary wired when the output code is typed wrong.

my favorite targeting systems are the ones from Arkham Asylum and Shadow of Mordor. they aren't the lock-on variety. they're automatic

Keep going! I believe in you!

How did you make the texture stylized, Look really fine

Wow, that video must have taken a lot of work! I love the mix of cool movement and classic Zelda combat. I really want to play it now!! 😭

Bob, you`re awesome!! Love to see the progress of the ai system. Especially the aggro meter mechanics, gives a lot of opportunities on how to play the game. How could enemies react in cases where the hero is standing on a wall? Is there a solution for that kind of scenario? :) Wonderful progress, keep on going! <3

A pretty complete combat system, can't wait to see how far you take this! Great job!

soooo nice !

Bob MVP!

What do you guys think of this super early stage of the combat system? What weapons or character skills would you like to see? Let me know in the comments! ⬇

Surprisingly Harry Potter Hogwarts Legacy has an incredible feedback feeling for the combat system, with a nice way to select enemies for quickly in combat switch. It gives off a feeling of overpowering control when you master the spells system and develop the necessary muscle memory. I think that's a good reference to look into!

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your work ALWYAS looks professional

¿what's the deal with the trees changing shape when the player character nears them?

Sliding down hills would be so much fun, especially if you can builds up speed and combine it with a jump

now texture the character, but also, how the HELL would you go about adding more physics bones for different outfits? would you REAAAAALLY just have every bone for every outfit exist on the base deform skeleton simultaneously??

lel , already 1000x better than ubisoft games

A dragon boss could be cool

Can i try this out, looks amazing

yes dodge rolling should grant s, its frustrating when a game doesnt do that imo

When I build the game I also have manually to put steam_appid.txt into built files (in the root folder with the exe) otherwise it just crashes

better than ac shadows

for your question on dodge rolling, i think while rolling you should have a small amount of invincibility from incoming attacks, but environmental damage should still be a factor, so if you roll away from a punch you dodge it but if you roll into a wall of spikes, you still get punished for your mistake, but it would probably be best to make the hitbox smaller just so the game isnt frustratingly punishing

Can you share more about your process for blocking out the level? My initial guess was you using probuilder but the texture seems different

Great guide, thank you! I used this code to complete achievements, everyone out there is free to copy + paste and save 2 min of work: private static void CompleteAchievement(string steamAchievementId) { if (SteamManager.Initialized) { SteamUserStats.GetAchievement(steamAchievementId, out bool achievementCompleted); if (!achievementCompleted) { SteamUserStats.SetAchievement(steamAchievementId); SteamUserStats.StoreStats(); Debug.Log($"Completed Achievement: {steamAchievementId}"); } } }

Dodge rolling giving I Frames makes the most intuitive sense, so consuming stamina would be a good tradeoff for them. But it depends on how you plan on doing combat

I’m very biased against i-frame based dodging; I think if you’re going to do that it better at least be justified with the move being some kind of magic power, and even then it never feels good to use because it’s all about causing a non-interaction where there should be an interaction. Others have said that they think i-frames are needed because of the stamina bar, though for a game with such an emphasis on movement you might want to get rid of that as well; it’s not fun to be constantly stopped from doing basic things, limiters should be for highly useful abilities like for example (been playing the Arkham games so this is what’s on he mind) building up a combo meter to gain access to moves that can instantly defeat lesser foes and cause massive damage to tougher ones. Stamina is not inherently a bad system, but you have to be very sure about why it’s there and what it causes the player to do. I’m not sure what a good use of stamina is honestly, but I’m sure it’s out there somewhere, maybe BotW or Monster Hunter but even then I tend to find it cumbersome.

It would be awesome to add this automatic hand placement on a wall/ledge/whatever when the character is close enough. Like in the Uncharted games. There was a TH-camr who did a tutorial on this, dont remember his channel, sorry. Could look epic running next to a wall, the character already touching it, feeling it and then walljumping. Or it could make the arm and hand animation a bit more fluid when jumping towards a ledge. Idk, just my thought that popped up :D Awesome video

I think dodge rolling could implement both (I-frames and smaller collision). That way it can be used in combat with the I-Frames but also as a navigation mechanic by allowing the player to dodge roll into smaller areas or under things.

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This is gonna be a weird one but hear me out... what if a short tap performs a hop, a long tap does a leap, a fast double tap in does a flip in the direction of the left joystick, and a delayed double tap near a wall or ledge does a wall jump or ledge climb, and finally a second tap just after landing a jump on the ground performs a quick flip (while tapping crouch after landing performs a quick roll and tapping sprint performs a slide)? Hope you like where I'm headed, even though I know nothing about parkour.

My whole game is built well being built around movement that feels good so I have a lot of ideas so I throw out 2 that I want to put in my game 1. Wall running 2. Dodge jumping that translates into a further jump look at jak 2 for reference

very well done this is so hard to do. I think having different jump animations would make this more dynamic.

i think it would be intresting to have dodge rolling to have a diff hitbox as then with diff enemies maybe bosses you have to dodge attacks differently and its not only rolling through it and itwill make things a lot more immersive and not just ok idk what to do PANIC ROLLLL

Cool movement system. Since your game dealing with lot of jumping and falling, maybe you should add landing animation based of player velocity. This will make falling move alive.

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