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I would have preferred if in Maple Treeway, instead of just having a glider ramp, you had this, and the shaking bridge, and you could choose between the two. Maybe it could even lead you to different paths at the end.

She cooked people. No complaints from me. On a side note I’m not the only Frappe Snowland fan in the world 😭

This is literally my second favorite game of the franchise, I get bullied for this lmao

I wish we got RMX tracks in the booster pack

What Nintendo should do for GBA rainbow road is replace the jump pads with ramps to trick off of.

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I would only replace GCN Luigi Circuit with GCN Mario Circuit for the Banana Cup because the track was planned to return for Mario Kart DS

I like the retro selection as it is but I would replace Moo Moo Farm with LUIGI RACEWAY BABYYYYYYYYYY

I kind of like the hectic briefness of the 2d tracks, they have such a chaotic vibe to them coupled with the borderline surreal lo-fi-visuals. Choco Island is so miserable that it kind of comes back around to being fun. The 64 remakes are just fine. The only tracks I really dislike are the Double Dash downgrades. They just feel sad.

Shell cup would cannula lake 1

I find it very interesting reimagining how the retro course selections in the series could have been better. With that being said, here is what I would change and why, while still keeping them in chronological order: Shell Cup 🐢 SNES Mario Circuit 1- It was the first track in the series, so it makes sense to have it as the introduction to retro courses. However, I would keep this and all the SNES remakes at 5 laps and spruce up the visuals a bit. N64 Moo Moo Farm- Maybe keep the original amount of monty moles and otherwise it's fine the way it is GBA Riverside Park- We really should have gotten this from the start. It's an enjoyable track that fits here perfectly. GCN Peach Beach- It's a simple yet still enjoyable track so I would include it here instead of Wii, where I would replace with Baby Park as I think it would fit a lot better in Mario Kart Wii. Banana Cup 🍌 SNES Donut Plains 2- More interesting and less simple than Donut Plains 1 N64 Frappe Snowland- I would keep it the way it is GBA Luigi Circuit- A good fit for this game, but it makes more sense for the Banana Cup GCN Mushroom Bridge- Again, makes sense to include it but fits a lot better in the Banana Cup. I would also spruce up the visuals, and keep the bridge, sidewalk and pipe shortcuts as well as more of the vehicles from the original. Leaf Cup 🍁 SNES Koopa Beach 1- More enjoyable than Koopa Beach 2 with more islands to drive across N64 Choco Mountain- No changes needed GBA Sky Garden- Makes more sense in the leaf cup, and otherwise is perfect the way it is GCN Yoshi Circuit- Good inclusion, but fits much better in the leaf cup. I would also again spruce up the visuals, and keep the yoshicopter and tunnel shortcut. Lightning Cup ⚡️ SNES Vanilla Lake 1- Could be improved a lot on the DS. I think Choco Island 2 would work a lot better on the Wii due to bikes and that game's trick system. N64 Banshee Boardwalk- Perfect the way it is GBA Bowser Castle 4- The perfect retro Bowser Castle to include in this game GCN Dino Dino Jungle- I believe it could work here as it worked on the 3DS and would be a solid pick for the last track of the lightning cup

Please make a video fixing the bcp

Can you do the Wii ones too?

I'd agree with your Picks Albert, but also, I did the same thing but for the MK8DX BCP. Golden Dash Cup: Tour Paris Promenade, 3DS Shy Guy Bazaar, N64 Choco Mtn, Wii Coconut Mall Lucky Cat Cup: Tour Singapore Speedway, GBA Luigi Circuit, DS Peach Gardens, Ninja Hideaway Turnip Cup: Tour Amsterdam Drift, SNES Mario Circuit 1/4, N64 Kalimari Desert 2, DS Waluigi Pinball Propeller Cup: Tour LA Laps, GBA Cheep-Cheep Island, Wii Mushroom Gorge, Deep Moray Trench (Piranha Plant Cove) Rock Cup: Tour London Loop, GBA Snow Land, Merry Mtn, 3DS Alpine Pass Moon Cup: Tour NY Min, Wii Maple Treeway, GBA Bowser Castle 4/GCN BC, 3DS Rainbow Road Fruit Cup: Tour Berlin Byways, GBA Riverside Park, Wii DK Snowboard Cross, Yoshi's Island Boomerang Cup: Tour Sydney Sprint, GCN Waluigi Stadium, DS Airship Fortress👍, Tour Bangkok Rush Feather Cup: Tour Athens Dash, Wii Moonview Highway, GCN Daisy Cruiser, Squeaky Clean Sprint Cherry Cup: Tour Vancouver Velocity, GBA Yoshi Desert, Wii Koopa Cape, 3DS Wuhu Mtn Loop Acorn Cup: Tour Rome Avanti, Wii Toad's Factory, GCN DK Mtn, Piranha Plant Pipeline (Warp Pipe Canyon) Spiny Cup: Tour Madrid Drive, DS Luigi's Mansion, SNES Bowser Castle 3, Wii Rainbow Road

In my opinion I feel like almost all of the choices were fine (with the exception of Baby Park because....really Nintendo? I would've swapped that for Waluigi Stadium) for the DS' limitations. I personally think they should save some of the bigger tracks like Wario Colosseum for the console games since they have more hardware to do them justice.

Excellent video! DS retros are incredibly hit or miss (even then most “hits” are good at best imo though a few retros stand out) but your fixes definitely make the lineup much better! Now if only you could use a time machine and make this reality during Mario Kart DS’s development.👀

i like how you kept the limitations of the ds in mind. used to excuse the bad retro selection because of that but even with the weaker hardware they definitely couldve done better

I really like your changes and agree with the majority of them. So you also plan to make a video fixing the MKWii retros?

Wii could use a fix, too. It's still insane they brought back 3 Mario Circuits.

What I would do: Shell Cup: -SNES Mario Circuit 1 -N64 Moo Moo Farm -GBA Shy Guy Beach -GCN Mushroom Bridge Banana Cup: -GCN Dry Dry Desert -GBA Boo Lake -SNES Choco Island 1 -N64 Toad's Turnpike Leaf Cup: -N64 Frappe Snowland -GCN Yoshi Circuit -SNES Bowser's Castle 2 -GBA Ribbon Road Lightning Cup: -GBA Sky Garden -N64 Wario Stadium -GCN Dino Dino Jungle -SNES Rainbow Road

I agree with all you're choices, I would just swap riverside park with cheep cheep island

This is a really solid selection overall! Though I think GBA Luigi Circuit could actually start off the lightning cup. I know a circuit doesn’t seem like a good fit to the lightning cup but mkwii started their lightning cup with snes mc3. And gba Luigi circuit could fit there because it’s rainy which can correlate to lightning and it’s one of the better more ambitious gba circuit. And then maybe sky garden can be moved to final track leaf cup then move vanilla lake 2 and banshee boardwalk up a slot

Tracks that will never appear in Mario Kart 9. ・All retro tracks for 8 and 8DX ・All BCP tracks (including TOUR city and nitro tracks) Tracks remade before Mario Kart 7 may appear, but　 It remains to be seen if nitro Tracks of 8 will appear, assuming the anti-gravity system continues.

I like what you did with the shell cup! If we had it would of been a cute lineup being in order not only installments but also track order!

I'd actually put in Dino Dino Jungle to end off the retro tracks for this game. It seems like a fairly good track to end

Great video! Agreed with a lot of the points here, and your Shell Cup is almost identical to my original one, with the final track being different. Here's how I would fix the retro track selection in this game (using a chronological order like the vanilla game): Shell Cup: • SNES Mario Circuit 1 • N64 Moo Moo Farm • GBA Riverside Park • GCN Dry Dry Desert Banana Cup: • SNES Donut Plains 2 • N64 Choco Mountain • GBA Bowser Castle 2 • GCN Mushroom Bridge Leaf Cup: • SNES Koopa Beach 2 • N64 Frappe Snowland • GBA Luigi Circuit • GCN DK Mountain Lightning Cup: • SNES Choco Island 2 • N64 Banshee Boardwalk • GBA Sky Garden • GCN Wario Colosseum -------------------------------------------------------------- And now my fixes without being constrained to placing each track in chronological order: Shell Cup: • SNES Mario Circuit 1 • N64 Moo Moo Farm • GBA Riverside Park • GCN Dry Dry Desert Banana Cup: • N64 Koopa Troopa Beach • SNES Donut Plains 3 • GBA Luigi Circuit • GCN Mushroom Bridge Leaf Cup: • GCN Yoshi Circuit • N64 Choco Mountain • SNES Vanilla Lake 2 • GBA Bowser Castle 3 Lightning Cup: • GCN Wario Colosseum • N64 Banshee Boardwalk • GBA Sky Garden • SNES Rainbow Road -------------------------------------------------------------- Honestly, most of the track picks from the vanilla game just needed to be shuffled around and then they would be fine, while the few others could have been replaced with more suitable tracks. The chronological track order might've restricted the track selection, but even then the devs could have done MUCH better, as shown by my suggested fix above. Still, they did an alright job, considering that was the first time they ever implemented retro tracks like they do now, and because of hardware limitations.

Finish off with SNES rainbow road. Then end wii with GBA RR, 7 with N64 RR and 8 with GCN RR. And each course before it is a gba bowser castle

My one worry with Wario Colosseum is the scaling and lap count. Either this track would become really short or way too long depending on how it would be executed, and it’s already a pretty divisive track. I can’t help but think it’ll just become what Baby Park is today in some way, or end up with the same problem that N64 Rainbow Road faces with either the original or the remake.

Where’s bertil auris!!! Great video to.. I completely forgot that she’ll cups content 😂😂

My character predictions. ⚠️! VERY Long list. Characters (40 not including different variants or costumes) (also characters now have costumes): * Mario (15 costumes) * Luigi (10 costumes) * Peach (7 costumes) * Daisy (7 costumes) * Rosalina (7 costumes) * Wario (2 costumes) * Waluigi (2 costumes) * Yoshi (10 variants) (3 costumes) * Toad (5 variants) (7 costumes) * Donkey Kong (1 costume) * Bowser (3 costumes) * Baby Mario (1 costume) * Baby Luigi * Baby Peach (1 costume) * Baby Daisy * Baby Rosalina (1 costume) * Shy Guy (10 variants) (2 costumes) * Koopa Troopa (3 variants) * Birdo (10 variants) * Toadette (5 costumes) * Diddy Kong * Bowser Jr (1 costume) * Kamek * Pauline (3 costumes) * Peachette * Petey Piranha * Wiggler * Lakitu * Dry Bones * Funky Kong * Metal Mario (2 variants) * Pink Gold Peach * Dry Bowser * King Boo (1 costume) * King Bobomb * Nabbit * Charging Chuck * Hammer Bro (4 variants) * Koopaling (7 variants) (1 costume) * Mii (48 costumes) Character Variants: * Yoshi - Green - Red - Yellow - Light Blue - Orange - Pink - Dark Blue - Purple - White - Black * Toad - Red - Blue - Yellow - Green - Purple * Shy Guy - Green - Red - Yellow - Light Blue - Orange - Pink - Dark Blue - Purple - White - Black * Koopa Troopa - Green - Red - Blue * Birdo - Green - Red - Yellow - Light Blue - Orange - Pink - Dark Blue - Purple - White - Black * Hammer Bro - Regular (Hammer) - Fire - Boomerang - Ice * Metal Mario - Silver - Gold * Koopaling - Larry - Roy - Lemmy - Wendy - Iggy - Morton - Ludwig Character Costumes: * Mario - Musician - Santa - Classic - Builder - Sunshine - Halloween - Racer - Golf - Cat - Samurai - Penguin - Doctor - Stellaview - Happi - Tanooki * Luigi - Penguin - Classic - Builder - Painter - Vacation - Golf - Doctor - Cat - Knight - Kitsune * Peach - Kimono - Vacation - Wintertime - Wedding - Halloween - Cat - Doctor * Daisy - Holiday Cheer - Fairy - Yukata - Swimwear - Farmer - Thai Dress - Sailor * Rosalina - Halloween - Aurora - Swimwear - Fire - Tanooki - Cat - Chef * Wario - Hiker - Cowboy * Waluigi - Bus Driver - Dracula * Yoshi - Reindeer - Egg - Kangaroo * Toad - Party Time - Builder - Explorer (Captain Toad if used for Red) - Cat - Penguin - Astronaut - Tourist * Donkey Kong - Gladiator * Bowser - Santa - Cat (also known as Meowser) - Doctor * Baby Mario - Koala * Baby Peach - Cupid * Baby Rosalina - Detective * Shy Guy - Ninja - Prospector * Toadette - Explorer - Penguin - Builder - Sailor - Astronaut * Bowser Jr - Pirate * Pauline - Party Time - Red Rose - Cowgirl * King Boo - Luigi’s Mansion * Koopaling - Wintertime * Mii - Regular (depends on your Mii color) - Red - Orange - Yellow - Lime Green - Green - Light Blue - Blue - Purple - Pink - Brown - White - Black - Mario - Luigi - Peach - Daisy - Rosalina - Wario - Waluigi - Yoshi - Birdo - Toad - Toadette - Donkey Kong - Bowser - Dry Bowser - King Boo - King Bobomb - Nabbit - Petey Piranha - Hammer Bro - Dry Bones - Wiggler - Koopaling - Larry - Roy - Lemmy - Wendy - Iggy - Morton - Ludwig - Coin Box - Cat - Pastry Chef - Chain Chomp - Dolphin - Cheep Cheep - Ice Cream - Goomba - Castle - Moo Moo - Rocky Wrench - Santa - Reindeer - Roaring Racer - Para-Biddybud - Spike - Pokey - Piranha Plant - Monty Mole - Fish Bone - Blooper - Koopa Clown - Bronze - Silver - Gold

Honestly I've tried this before and one idea i do like is having the lightning cup be sky garden, dino dino jungle, N64 Bowser Castle and Snes Rainbow Road. i think none have too many obstacles besides thwomps and noshi that they would work in ds

The bumps in Choco Island 2 are worse than the steering in Super Circuit

My picks: Shell Cup: SNES Mario Circuit 1 N64 Kalimari Desert GBA Riverside Park GCN Dry Dry Desert Banana Cup: SNES Donut Plains 2 N64 Choco Mountain GCN Peach Beach GBA Bowser's Castle 2 Leaf Cup: SNES Koopa Beach 2 GCN Daisy Cruiser N64 Frappe Snowland GBA Sunset Wilds Lightning Cup: SNES Vanilla Lake 2 N64 Banshee Boardwalk GBA Sky Garden GCN Mushroom City

I actually have an alt-reality scenario for fixing the retro cups across the entire series inspired by Golden's video. So, I guess I'll dump them here. MKDS: Shell Cup: SNES Mario Circuit 1 N64 Moo Moo Farm GBA Boo Lake GCN Dry Dry Desert Banana Cup: SNES Donut Plains 2 N64 Frappe Snowland GBA Cheese Land GCN Mario Circuit Leaf Cup: (yes I kept everything the same) SNES Koopa Beach 2 N64 Choco Mountain GBA Luigi Circuit GCN Mushroom Bridge Lightning Cup: SNES Vanilla Lake 1 N64 DK's Jungle Parkway GBA Sky Garden GCN Bowser's Castle MKWii: Shell Cup: SNES Choco Island 1 DS Delfino Square GCN Baby Park N64 Kalimari Desert Banana Cup: N64 Sherbet Land GBA Bowser Castle 3 DS Luigi's Mansion GCN Waluigi Stadium Leaf Cup: DS Tick Tock Clock SNES Mario Circuit 4 GCN Daisy Cruiser N64 Yoshi Valley Lightning Cup: GBA Lakeside Park DS Peach Gardens GCN DK Mountain N64 Bowser's Castle MK7: Shell Cup: DS Yoshi Falls GBA Bowser Castle 2 N64 Koopa Troopa Beach Wii Mushroom Gorge Banana Cup: Wii Coconut Mall SNES Mario Circuit 2 GBA Snow Land DS Waluigi Pinball Leaf Cup: DS Shroom Ridge GCN Yoshi Circuit Wii Maple Treeway N64 Banshee Boardwalk Lightning Cup: Wii Koopa Cape GCN Dino Dino Jungle DS Airship Fortress GBA Rainbow Road MK8: Shell Cup: Wii Moo Moo Meadows GCN Luigi Circuit 3DS Shy Guy Bazaar DS Desert Hills Banana Cup: GBA Riverside Park N64 Royal Raceway DS Cheep Cheep Beach 3DS Piranha Plant Slide/Pipeway Leaf Cup: DS Wario Stadium GCN Sherbet Land 3DS Music Park/Melody Motorway SNES Bowser Castle 3 Lightning Cup: 3DS DK Jungle GBA Ribbon Road Wii Grumble Volcano N64 Rainbow Road

I actually did an experiment where I changed DS' selection. And then I gave one to every other game (including Tour and the BCP) based around the changes made to DS a few months ago. Nice to see someone I watch tackle the subject. I still stuck with Nintendo's general structure and ideas but tried to increase variety by a lot. (Also there's an underlying presence in this project where they spent an extra year developing DS in particular to work around limitations) SNES Mario Circuit 1 N64 Moo Moo Farm GBA Shy Guy Beach (I feel like DS is just the game where a remake of this would feel best-suited, fits the vibes) GCN Baby Park (Just give em like a year and they can add, like, a Bowser Shell launcher or something) SNES Donut Plains 1 N64 Choco Mountain GBA Luigi Circuit GCN Mushroom Bridge (Yup, that's just the entire Leaf Cup being moved up except the SNES course) SNES Koopa Beach 2 N64 Royal Raceway (OG track has Mario 64 assets, I was thinking this could pull from 64DS) GBA Sky Garden GCN Sherbet Land (Less of an "I wanted this" pick and more of a "It fits the puzzle too well" pick. Simple enough to work though I think.) GCN Yoshi Circuit (Decided to invert the order for the final cup, it deserves it) GBA Bowser Castle 3 (Star Cup finale going to Lightning Cup two games later pattern, anyone? BC2 doesn't work and BC4 gets too much of a future glowup to waste it here) N64 Banshee Boardwalk SNES Rainbow Road (Surprisingly obvious selection that very few people seem inclined to actually go forward with) I think it makes sense, though it certainly warrants changes to future entries (both the GBA replacements are the ones they chose for Wii lol).

this is my favorite mk game, and i too think the retros we got were weird as hell. the fact you considered hardware limitations makes this feel more authentic and natural in my eyes. good video!

The Retro Courses in Mario Kart DS were choosen based on limitation so I don't blame them for that, but I also think they picked these courses because of Mario Kart DS's mechanics, one example is the snake-drifting. But I could be wrong. Tbh even though Mario Kart DS's Retro Grand Prix is easely the weekiest one in the hole series, the choises there is actually fine in my eyes.

Going to respond to a few points in the vid I disagree with, but I want to preface this by saying this comment isn't emotionally charged at all- I actually really liked the video and can agree with a lot of your points, I'm just responding for the sake of discussion. Good vid, Albert. :) I feel like snaking is honestly pretty misunderstood- A lot of people will misinterpret DS's controls as just 'who can spam the best' but if you actually want to get your drifts out as quickly as possible then you will have to time your inputs perfectly. You rock the DPad back and forth twice with perfect timing to build up a quick drift- It's the same general idea with Double Dash, and if you spam too quickly your drift will simply just be slightly slower than it could be had you actually timed it- If you look at world records with controller visuals on, you'll see what I mean! Also you can dodge blueshells with a precisely timed drift. I've done it a few times and it feels magical.