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เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 3 ส.ค. 2022
Travel, live and work in 38 countries as a techie.
I am a developer myself and have been an expat in many countries.
I am a developer myself and have been an expat in many countries.
Swiss Job Market: English, French, German
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Moving to Switzerland can be an exciting adventure, but finding a job can be challenging, especially if you don't speak German or French. In this video, we'll explore the reality of finding employment in Switzerland with English or French as your primary language.
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Moving to Switzerland can be an exciting adventure, but finding a job can be challenging, especially if you don't speak German or French. In this video, we'll explore the reality of finding employment in Switzerland with English or French as your primary language.
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The information contained herein is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as legal, tax, or immigration advice. We recommend consulting with a qualified professional for guidance specific to your situation.
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Thanks for the video 😊
This is a relief. I’m a self taught software developer with a focus in both front and backend development. I’m American and college is too expensive.
is it difficult to live in Switzerland when your partner pays for everything?
It can be, check out my video: th-cam.com/video/IOAbE_R8YQg/w-d-xo.html
Raphael, a great presentation. Yes, Switzerland has an element of individualism. At the community and cantonal level, a better term would be *subsidiarity,* as opposed to the communitarianism of Germany (and many other European countries). This is called Kantönligeist. Sometimes it is maddening, but I love it. I am also an immigrant to Switzerland, but from the USA: My personal experience is that the quality of life, quality of services, quality of infrastructure are *much higher* in Switzerland. What you've discovered about income and expenses is called PPP, purchasing power parity, by economists. If the benefit of living in Switzerland is that a family could save CHF 100 more per month than they could save living in another country, over a 40 year working career, the savings would amount to CHF 632'000 and change. That is insanely valuable. Although as US citizens (living in Switzerland) we still pay significant taxes in the USA, we are able to save *much more* in Switzerland than in the USA. Our housing costs dropped from about CHF 5'000 per month to CHF 4'000 per month. Our health insurance and medical expenses decreased from about CHF 20'000 per year to about CHF 14'000 per year.
Is it possible to find job if you speak only french and english ?
There is a big discussion going on in US about the H1B work visas. If you quickly make a video about Swiss work visas (are they tied to the employer?), I bet it be very popular.
Thank you for the info. Do you know a page where the salary ranges are trustworthy? I am interested in quantitative jobs in banks and hedge funds.
Hmm, SwissDevJobs is not bad for average jobs. But as I said in one of the videos, you can basically outperform those salary bands if you know how. You can check out Glassdoor as well, but overall there is no reliable site I know of. It's just that so many people do not post their salaries and bonuses are sometimes a bit hard to properly summarize. In the end, supply and demand makes a big difference as well. Whether you do PHP, Java or Rust for example will have huge effects on your salary in Zurich for example but it also changes every year. Also, years of experience and job titles are not a good input parameter for your x axis, so even if there were a good site you'd need a consultant who can tell you how to properly query and interpret the data.
Your accent and the command of English is outstanding!
Hallo, Vielen dank. I need one honest advice if you have the time to share with me. I am currently living in Essen, and I earn roughly 90000 K Euros as a consultant in the field of engineering. My rent is only 1100 Euros in some very nice white German neighbourhood, I am married and have tax class 3 and have a house wife. Now the Swiss Employer is offering me 100K CHF and for us it is important to have a good health insurance with 0 deductible and possibility to visit any specialist of our choice and it is roughly 470 CHF per person per month . I dont like 100 K CHF and because either I can less money or almost same money because of 900 CHF and additional 1100 Euros that will be added to monthly rent (900+ 2100 = 3000 CHF only for housing and health insurance) From my calculations 120 K CHF is at minimum point, do you think it is ok as the employer is pushing for 100 K CHF and 120 K is the red line for me or may be 115 K in worst case Any suggestions
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Movening to any country that doesn't speak English is a waste of time
Having a Cross on the Flag is a major plus!...We cannot be accused of being "anti-semitic" or "fascists" for being Christians...Sadly, today in the USA Israel tells the Government what to do, and being Christian is usually "offensive" to some individuals...🇨🇭🫶🏼 a Major "Plus" no pun intended! 😌❤️✝️❤️⚖️
Brother i completed my graduated from cse which skill should i learn in order to get job in switzerland guide me im learning right no react all frontend stuff what should i do get a job in switzerland
Have you checked out my 1:1 coaching offer yet?
3:30 In what way do you think Zurich offers high quality of life?
For me it's the combination of safety, air quality, infrastructure and press freedom. With those filters alone there are only a handful of cities in the world and if you then add moderate or lower taxes and not tiny (above 100K population) I think it's unique worldwide.
I started making a research on the market and it is weird. All head hunters tell me that the companies pay maximum 120k. I am a Java dev with 12 years of experience, speak C1 German, a masters degree and hear the same 120k since years. How is it possible no head hunter offers me jobs with at least 150k? 😮 I earn 105k in Germany currently (~5000€ after taxes)
Great topic for a newsletter! I'll write about that next week.
@ thanks a lot! I really appreciate your work 🙌🏼
Can you rent an apartment in Grindewald?
Generally yes, but why?
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Thanks for the great content! Is the healthcare cost tax deductible in Switzerland?
Practically no, in theory yes. You can in some cases reduce your tax bill if you have very cost, e.g. a major operation. This might become relevant if you are older / have chronic diseases. So luckily, as a young and healthy professional the answer would be no but it also means that you are in great shape :-)
Thanks for the response! I am super healthy slim going to the gym running etc but I am blind from birth. Do you maybe know how would this affect the health insurance coverage?
Worst case you might not get some supplemental health insurance. But this is not the end of the world since the basic mandatory health insurance is already quite comprehensive. But maybe you could even get some supplemental, you'd have to ask every single Swiss insurance company to know for sure.
And private security will be multiplied (compound interest). And additionally, a rich and wise country is a multiplication of options/ possibilities/ development/ etc. Switzerland is another galaxy in the middle of Europe :)))
Absolutely! When are you making the move?
@@38countries I've already been to Switzerland (mutual love :D:D:D They've been calling me for 2 years to come back; good and wise people). When I find a wife, I'll think about it... ;) But in short- Switzerland is a wonderful country (beautiful/ honest/ wise (great science/ uni)/ rich/ etc.); my second home (maybe it will become my first ;) MfG
What's the risk of not doing something?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost
Can I mixe with other people in English language.I mean with native people,who live in switzerland.And There's also question like,Should i learn germany or french to find a job ?
Yes, you can network with people using English only in Zurich. But I do not recommend it in the long run, since you will be really limited in who you can talk to. Also since English is a just a fork of German, why not learn the other language as well? Check out this video as well: th-cam.com/video/5WqHEdohQAM/w-d-xo.html
I wish you hit 1million sub before the year 2026
Thanks for the vid. One note, I would have added the compulsory health insurance as a medical expense too, not sure why you've left it out
Good point, I thought I had included it in the first video already but it seems like I actually did include it in the numbers without talking about the details. So I will make a more detailed video in the future. Thanks for the hint.
please give me your linkedIn profile.
Which companies are hiring lol
Quite a few actually. Have you applied?
I love your videos! ❤
Thanks!
You have very famous moustache 😂
How can i find a job in Switzerland from Algeria ?
I'm a delphi programmer
Wow, Delphi still exists. :-) Generally as non-EU/EFTA it is a bit tough since you are going to need a real visa. On the other hand, Delphi might be specialized enough so that they can't really find anyone else. Have you looked for jobs in Switzerland yet? In my experience it can hard to get hired without any pre-existing connections as a non-EU/EFTA candidate. But since Delphi developers are really in low supply (also only a niche demand though), you might be able to get an employment permit.
Here in the philippines we have pancit cantons
on salary expectations for a web developer with 3 years' experience, I want to live in zurich with my wife and daughter. How much should I ask for in a job offer?
As a family you need min. 120K, see this video: th-cam.com/video/cdnMS3cGhOs/w-d-xo.html But how much you should ask for really depends on the specific tech stack. If you are in PHP, you might not reach 120K, in Java it should be easy as a senior.
Your country background is similar to the country where you're currently living. I thought just a few cultures difference which you must have adapted
That is the whole point. Switzerland and Germany are quite different even though they are neighbors and even though most of Switzerland speaks a language that is similar to (Standard) German.
@@38countries did you feel any culture shock?
Not that much, but I think I was closer to Swiss values than many Germans from the beginning since I believe more in individual responsibility and individualism instead of collectivism.
It's difficult as expat to work .on top of good salary, this country so boring, hard to make friend with indigenous people
I would not call Switzerland boring. But that really depends on your hobbies. If you like sports, mountains and so on, Switzerland is great. Even music and dance can be great if you are close enough to the big cities. But yes, there is no equivalent of Barcelona, Paris, beaches and so on for good or for worse in Switzerland.
Basically Tax is a contribution toward society
Yeah and then said society uses it for war, bureaucracy and so on. Switzerland is better about managing tax payer's money, so paying taxes in Switzerland is more ethical than in some other countries. I would say that in many countries it is basically unethical to pay taxes because most of it goes towards socially harmful things (war, corporate welfare, more bureaucracy to enslave the middle class) whereas only in some countries it is used for good purposes such as funding education. The latter type of country is usually relatively small, more democratic and transparent.
are there job opportunities in switzerland as sa software dev?
Yes, it is more difficult now than 2 years ago though like everywhere in the world, which makes it even more important to position yourself correctly
Are we talking about rust?
Ironically, salaries tend to be higher for Rust ;-) Some of the blockchain jobs in CH pay surprisingly lower salaries unless they involve Rust.
Been there. I got one day and had to "use" my regular vacation/overtime to help my wife. I didn't even know it was raised to two weeks. Good thing. Still embarrassing.
The thing is: Would you rather have the government take away let's say 10% of your salary so that you get an additional month "for free" with each new child (which is financially worse than equivalent unpaid vacation)? The money has to come from somewhere. I guess the only thing I could see as a useful improvement is that fathers could have a right to a longer leave + job guarantee while taking a couple of months of unpaid parental leave like some other countries have it where you can't be fired while on parental leave or right after it, just without the government/society paying for it.
The last topic touched im, im moving
I live close to Stuttgart and work as a Software Engineer and make 180k Euros gross a year and live in a debt-free self owned apartment. I dont think I can save more money in a month by moving to Switzerland ? I really would need to earn smt like 250k CHF annual to make it for me financally worthwhile but this is quite difficult to achieve. I dont want to grind leetcode to get into Google Zurich or Meta after already having a million net worth already. All other Swiss companies do not seem to cross 200k CHF annual gross line for software developers and that amount I can already make in cheap Germany. Any advice?
Not possible to say in general. On the hand, you already have a very high salary for German standards. It is also not really possible to say whether you could have a higher income in e.g. Zurich vs Stuttgart just from moving without knowing more about your particular role. It might be higher in Zurich, but it could even be lower because sometimes that particular skill set is highly in demand in your current city Stuttgart but not in Zurich. Generally in your level of income and also net worth, it is more interesting to save on taxes than having a higher salary. You could hypothetically pay much less income tax and capital gains tax (since in CH there are no capital gains taxes on typical private investments within certain limits) therefore improving your annual savings bottom line even if your gross salary stays the same and your cost of living goes up. Tax savings can sometimes overcompensate higher cost of living between "cheaper" countries and Switzerland, effectively making Switzerland the cheaper country. If you are interested, this might be a case for a 1:1 consultation with me, let me know. The information contained herein is for informational purposes only and should not be construed as legal, tax or immigration advice. We recommend consulting with a qualified professional for guidance specific to your situation. Viewers should seek professional advice before making any decisions or taking any actions based on the information presented. 38Countries is not liable for any losses or damages arising from the use of this channel or the information presented. By accessing and using the information presented on this channel, you acknowledge and agree to this disclaimer.
I don't understand, isn't that the case in every country?
I would not say so. In all the neighboring countries of Switzerland, you get more "free" things from the government so you pay for it with higher taxes. So your individual performance and budgeting does not really matter so much. In Switzerland, if you screw up, do not save money etc. things will be less fun than in Germany for example where the government will often bail you out.
That’s funny as my ex lives in Switzerland and I have never seen such a good social support. He got free time from work to go to some kind of mental spa to get mental break from job. Fully paid. By state.
Interesting that you would say that. May I ask which country you are comparing it with?
Thanks so much for answering my question in such an informative video format. This definitely lightens things up as I was quite worried that the lack of a CS degree would really dampen our chances. Regarding kids, our eldest one is already 5 years old currently and therefore would not incur us kindergarten costs. That leaves us with only one child who would, in the case that we both get jobs, need to be looked after at kindergarten/day care. But like you said, if we both work we’d have more income to finance kindergarten, and if only one of us works, then we wouldn’t need kindergarten. I’d definitely like to keep in touch and get some advice from you when it’s time to start sending out job applications, if you don’t mind
Sure, I am here to help. Let me know once new topics come up in your journey or if you need assistance anywhere.
I definitely will. Thanks again Raphael!
Thank you for the video 😊 can you tell me how is the market job market for Android Developer?
Android is probably going a bit better in Switzerland than iOS. Most Swiss users have an iPhone so there seems to be more iOS devs as well and less (experienced) Android developers. At this point this is a subjective impression though.
@@38countries thank you for the kind reply and information, I am looking for move from Germany to Switzerland. Let's see how much time it takes 🙂
If you need help, feel free to reach out to me. I offer personalized coaching.
Love your videos man. Hope one day I can be like you, working from anywhere with my skills.
It's quite possible if you position yourself in the right way. I can teach you.
@@38countries Looking forward to your video man!
Great content 🎉
Glad you enjoyed
USA used to require at least bachelors degree for H1B work visas. Masters degree was preferred - my immig lawyer told me so. From the tone of this video it sounds that CH is more flexible in this regard.
If you need a visa, a degree might be more helpful than otherwise, at least on paper. Most Europeans do not require a special visa but only the automatic work permit. But generally yes, a degree is not a formal requirement. The only thing that matters for a non-EU-EFTA citizens is that your skills are special enough so that nobody else can be found for a while to do the job.
Sir do you earn 120k swiss francs a year in Switzerland? Plz reply. Thanks a lot.
Whether I made 99K, 120K or 1M, what difference would it make to you? ;-)
Thats a lot... you dont need that much money to live here
Check out my video series on the cost of living in Zürich. I think 100K is already the minimum with rent alone being 2000-2500 CHF for a single.
There is already too many people here.
While I understand that there are reservations in Switzerland for more immigrants coming, I think the facts say otherwise. If people stop moving to Switzerland, the AHV will collapse. Also, Avenir Suisse says that Switzerland has space for 12M people, approx. 3M more than now. At any rate, Switzerland is far from being the most densely populated European country. The Netherlands have a higher density of population and they are doing just fine.
OK, you may think so. I think that it is against your own genuine interest though. It's not about "the rich capitalists" of Avenir Suisse or multinational corporations at all. I do not know your circumstances, but in the end, not the rich, but instead the normal middle-class resident of Switzerland (Swiss or not) is going to suffer when qualified immigrants stop coming and paying for all the wealth that Switzerland can currently offer to the middle class. It's gonna be your AHV (and mine), your medical care personnel (or the lack thereof), your health insurance premiums going up and so on. People like you and me will suffer if qualified immigrants stop coming. Immigration also helps keep the average population age lower therefore slowing the democratic catastrophe that is heading for us, a giant systematic problem of all highly developed countries with low birth rates. Many people in Switzerland understand this or are smart enough to follow clever leaders, so far. Otherwise Switzerland would not be where it is right now. While "taxing the rich" is morally questionable since taxation is fundamentally a form of extortion and theft, you will not get rich people to pay an even higher amount of taxes than they already do (remember they can move somewhere else easier than most people). Instead it's more likely that VAT and all sorts of cost the average person has to bear will go up, which affects people who are not rich more than rich people. Just look at the current AHV 13th discussion. It's a massive boomerang against the statists (plus unfair towards future generations since AHV is a ponzi scheme). Sure, you are gonna say I sound like Avenir Suisse now. But this is the actual truth. I would not cut the branch I am sitting on.
What is your explanation for private trains working remarkably better than its state-run counter parts in quite a few places like Italy and Germany? How come SpaceX is outperforming NASA? Just because the Internet and HTTP were kicked off by government run institutions does not mean the developed 99% or even 51% of it. A lot of it did undeniably come from the private sector and hobbyists who were also not paid by the government. And again: If not immigrants, who is going to run all those trains, the hospitals, internet infrastructure and so on? Do you think Switzerland opened up to immigration in the 1960ies and again in the 21st century because people were bored? It was the only logical thing to do. In the end, immigration is the lifeline of any country with an aging society. Immigrants are paying for your AHV, they are working in the hospital for you and so on. I am further not suggesting that everything be 100% privatized or that government funding should not play a part in the economy at all, but it is an undeniable fact that many countries in the whole world are not doing a decent job in distributing tax payers money nor in making the process reasonably democratic. In contrast, countries like Switzerland with its relatively low taxes (there are more examples) and a stronger private sector in many areas outperform large, bureaucratic and increasingly socialist countries who right now are again flirting with nationalism (don't people read history books anymore?). Switzerland does a remarkable job of moderating and mitigating the typical problems of any developed country with its more direct democracy, less levels of abstraction and a culture of problem solving and treasuring its well working economy instead of following ideology. If that were to ever change, Switzerland would be done. I don't think this is going to happen, the Swiss are too clever for that.
Good video. Is owning a car in CH expensive/painful? The answer would impact my choice of where to live. Also, are there detached house suburbs (US style) in CH?
Why would you fixate so much on owning a car? Switzerland and especially zurich has very good public transport that will be both much cheaper and probably more convenient to use rather than a car.
Depends on what you mean by expensive. In many cases you don't need a car in Switzerland, so it would not matter.
Very accurate advice. If you live alone 120T as an expat shall be the minimum. But if you need to provide for a family with that salary forget it. Don't be naive guys, universal rules apply also in Switzerland
Thank you for sharing