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Great video. Thanks so much for sharing this information.

U are right of course. I want to add: single hand sailing is a totally different where it goes to the dynamics of safety rules and what works and helps safety and what not. There should be different approach for single handed is my opinion. Single handed over board on a life line: good luck getting on board again.

I think you are taking youtube too serious, you really think people watching those videos are going to do what those idiots are doing.

Spot on, practice practice practice and use good safety equipment. I remember joining as crew on a Barquentine which carried sail trainees - we didn't leave our berth until the basic safety briefs were all done, and didn't even leave the harbour for the following day as we did ship familiarization. And yes, we threw Mr Basketball Head overboard more than once to learn to heave to and sail back to our man overboard marker before we went out onto the big blue. It's really not fast to sail back to the point you need to get to, especially with square rig, so you better believe it flotation devices matter and the best one is the one you already have on, because depending on the wind and yacht/ship it might take minutes with a bunch of tacking back into the wind to get there. You are spot on about tethers, they are *always* to stay on the deck (or yards, if you have them!) - there are plenty of boats and ships out there that you are just not getting back onto deck without being hove to and a ladder lowered. Good skills scale - knowing your ship, everyone knowing how to deploy man overboard marker, wearing life jackets when required, proper use of harnesses etc etc work from a very small yacht up to a very big, very beautiful sailing ships. But 'short cuts and cost saving tricks" really don't scale, and absolutely could be the last mistake you ever make.

There’s no way that gentleman would be able to lift himself back into the boat when overboard. No way. Anyone who would think an average person could lift an average adult up & over the gunwale of a boat is either delusional or has never lifter a human being in real life.

th-cam.com/video/kJUpkKEV9w4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PLKxa8oGVbjFFinS While I agree staying ON the boat is the job of your teacher. Side deck jack lines are NOT safe as even a short tether attached to a side deck jack line will likely still allow you to fall over. BUT the link to the above video shows failing in and be ping tuned to your boat is NIT necessarily a death sentence. A fit sailor CAN and HAVE hauled themselves back on board. Of course NOT falling in is the real safe way to sail. NOT rely on ANY after the fact safety devise. Like the sailors of old your number one and best safety devise Is YOU your ability to assess the danger of a situation and to hold on. At all times. Sailors once ran up rat lines to yards 20-30 tp even 50 feet above a deck as sea on rolling tall ships and they didn’t fall, and yes many a man did die but many lived to look back on their sailing days alive. A life jacked is a false sense of safety the chances of a sailor being recovered in the open ocean in big waves just because they had on a life jacket are VERY slim. And a single handed sailor who falls in it is even less as no one is left onboard to do an emergence jibe to turn the boat and implement any man over board rescue. The reality is your safest option is DO NOT FALL off the boat. And act as if falling off is death. NOT that oh I have a life jacket on if I fall off I will be saved. As NO it is not that simple to recover someone with a life jacket bobbing around in 3-6 foot waves in the day never mind when conditions are far worse and it’s night. If you fall off with or without a life jacket your screwed and life on a boat should be treated as such. Ya pleasure day sailors sailing in ideal conditions and in the company of other boats and sailors as they sail around a harbor course on a race course laid out by the local yacht club would do well to wear a life jacket as in that situation plenty of people around to haul you out after you carelessly ran around on your yacht wearing your PDF and instead of making sure you didn’t fall armed with the false confidence of wearing your safety pdf instead of being safe you ended up in the water. Ya it’s a nice sunny day on the water the captain jibes circles around and brings you back on board or a fallowing yacht sees you and is able to retrieve you and all have a good laugh later over drinks at the yacht club bar. The reality of an off shore cruiser or single handed passage maker falling in results in someone finding your boat (maybe) and your a statistic of lost at sea never to be heard from again. A life jacket will make sure you have plenty of time as you watch your boat sail away without you and your body eventually but very slowly succumbs to hypothermia to think about the error you made to end up in that situation before you eventually die. Yes a tether is designed to KEEP you on board but there are areas of a boat no matter how short you make that tether it is still possible if your are not staying fully aware of your surroundings you can still find your self off the deck. out on the end of a bowsprit is one place. And if your alone and the fuller out on the end of your bow sprit should need emergence attention you weigh the risk make a plan that reduces that risk but there is no NO risk option to fix the situation sure a pdf Might give you a last ditch hope should all your preventive measures fail but really it’s a very slim chance should you fall In have no way to get back on board and no one else is there to help. That’s the reality sailing has risks you can’t mediate it away and PDFs won’t save you if no one is around. The chances anyone will ever find you is slim. So if a single handed sailor chooses to wear a harness instead of a life jacket and rely on not falling over as his number one safety option and he has sailed a lifetime using this philosophy without ever falling over board and has made several open ocean single handed passages in his life that he prefers to rely on his skill and knowledge to keep him safe (as safe as can be with in the inherent risks) instead of relying on PDF and its fake sense of security I have a bit of respect for that. I also feel the same about any model so called safety precautions like self closing gates and pool safety fencing and alarms that sound should someone fall in. A pool and the false belief this will replace diligence and paying attention to wear kids might be around a pool so someone is actually watching them and not relying on some safety gear to replace your responsibility to be safe and teach others the dangers are real and how important it is to not be careless around that danger and don’t do things that will make you need that pdf.

Here's another one for you. None of the people in your "The Sailor's Debrief" clip are wearing a life jacket. tsk tsk. 0:25

beware the 'do your own research' mantra that has spread through certain individualistic groups that lead them to the dumb ideas. Do LISTEN to those that have better research and study credentials and avoid the survivor bias problems.

Navy Seals do a mile swim in cold open water. Most of us are not in the kind of shape Navy Seals are and many of them don't make that swim due to the cold. BUDs has a 70-80% attrition rate and that long cold swim takes a lot of the candidates.

The whole concept of jacklines & tethered jackets is currently undergoing a long overdue update. I have always advocated for these devices, but as Team-O demonstrates, even the Spinlock vests are woefully inadequate (not a Team-O endorsement). Nylon jacklines have always been fraught with problems & permanent track-based jacklines are becoming popular for good reason. Tethers haven't changed, but also shouldn't be more than 3-4' long. Pulling yourself back onto the boat is a myth & we need to focus more on how to not fall off at all. The equipment needs to be better.

Great work

Consider doing an investigation of the loss of Joe Santorelli off of Imeldi at the start of a Chicago Mac race in a big breeze a few years ago. He was wearing an inflatable PFD which failed to inflate.

Not only was the first example not wearing a proper tether, but their lifejackets didn't have a crotch strap. There's a reason we have these regulations. The second example is so wrong. I've fallen off the back of a yacht racing, and I was holding a rope attached to the boat. Being dragged I could not keep my head above water, let alone pull myself back on board. Dangerous advice from that guy.

Great video. Some of these youtube "safety" recommendations are absolutely WILD. Thanks for setting the record straight.

99.5% of everyone watching this video will never need to clip on for offshore sailing.

A sailor from a lake in Wisconsin , a thousand miles from the Ocean, Critizing a sailor who has crossed an ocean several times. Ya gotta wonder .

Swam in lake Contwoyto Nunavut It was 30* out that day. I eased myself in snd began to swim but the cold was burning cold ?! I swam 15 feet and returned to shore. The water of this lake is only liquid 6-7 weeks of the year ! Wow our boat training told us they give three minutes and things start to stop working if you fall in. I found out it must be true wow blue skin in one minute lol

la Vagabond "we won't wear safety harnesses because it doesn't look good on camera". Exact quote when begged by the followers to wear a harness after releasing a video of 30 ft sea state with 35 knot winds.

Lots of garbage on TH-cam. Wanna better laugh watch the aviation channels. They manage to convert themselves from breathing to not rather quickly.

As young 19 year old adults, after finishing our intermediate cruising course, we bareboat chartered right after to celebrate. Our dinghy would deflate, one of our crew decided to inflate it while towing under way, he tethered himself to the dinghy with his Salus life jacket. A very good brand of pfds, well constructed. He fell overboard because of the wake of the sailboat, fortunately, the thether broke the straps on the pfd immediately and at least he was swimming freely and visible. Had he been dragged, he might have drowned at the speed we were going. thank God we had practiced MOB drills a fee days before, our maneuver was spot on to pick him back up. We learned quite a few things that day that we still apply every outing, and we were thankful that no one got hurt. It pains me to see experienced sailors teaching bad practices online. One would think that at their level of experience, they have at least heard one first or second hand account of a disaster... safety is paramount

„Alexa, play ’Dumb ways to die‘“

I turn blue in 30 minutes without a wetsuit that’s the west coast.

I watch a lot of sailing channels and the ones with kids onboard scare me the most. However, Erik Anderaa's channel NBJS is on a whole other level. He sails solo in the N. Atlantic ocean with no safety gear on his body. Nuts.

Good on you for calling out TH-cam sailing channels. I’ve seen so many dangerous examples and hundreds of supportive comments from people who clearly think they are learning from experts. I’ve seen a couple sailing offshore without lifelines, without adequate safety equipment and no idea. It’s bad. Really bad. These people should know that many safety items have been designed following coroners reports. The double releases on tethers came in Australia after a half tonner sank with all the crew teathered on, full sails up, offshore and people carrying knives. The force of water was too strong on them to free themselves. There are so many stories like this. Yacht club safety inspectors should be a first port of call to gain experience.

To be fair it's really difficult to tell what kind of carabiner they are using from a grainy video frame. People do need to be informed that all carabiners are not created equal, and should be load rated at the very least which indicates its not a "decorative" carabiner. 7:28 50-60 is 1-2 hours. The stated water temp is 60. Why are boiling that down to 1 hour? This plus the clickbaity video title is pretty scummy. Thumbs down. If you want to reference that screen then you should use 2 hours at the least, which is plenty of time to reach shore at 1 mile. Would it be pleasant? Of course not, but it would save your life. Saying they are trying to kill you? wow. That being said, I would certainly wear a PFD, at the very least an inflatable one, whenever I am outside the cabin. I am 100% certain I could finish a swim of 1 mile in about an hour as I have done it before, but I am certainly an above-average swimmer. That doesn't mean a PFD wouldn't be necessary simply because when you go overboard there is no guarantee you will be in the best shape or even conscious.

Didn’t see crotch strap on any life jacket. I know from experience the importance of a crotch strap to prevent inflated life jacket lifting off your shoulders and barely staying on

Whenever possible I place hard points and short jacklines ALONG THE CENTERLINE OF THE DECK. Jacklines along the side decks allow too much movement under load and can easily leave you hanging helplessly alongside the hull-probably at least partially in the water. yes they allow greater freedom of movement along the decks-but at increased risk. BETTER is a dual line tether that allows you to move along the deck for example, but also allows attachment to centerline points as you go along-especially in the bow when handling headsails.

GOOD JOB

In the old days (my days) sailors generally came up from sailing smaller boats from Sunfish to Widgeons and other dinghy types up through bigger boats-generally sailing in company of experienced sailors as their own competence grew. For a while now, that continuum has become increasingly broken as wannabe sailors quite often buy a boat, without understanding the process of buying the right boat, they load on the electronics and cool gear-maybe watch a few youtubes and off they go. Like many experienced boatmen/women, I used to think that a certification requirement was un-necessary. Things have gotten so bad that it's now time to require a minimum of certified training-but the industry will never let that happen.

I thought it was that he was wearing denim

Good job sir

I’ve been sailing for around half a century having started with a (UK) RYA approved initial course. More recently I lived for a decade on a canal boat. The principal of ‘one hand for the ship and one for yourself’ goes without saying and it is sensible to wear a safety harness and safety line but you should ALWAYS wear an appropriate, approved life jacket - not some cheap buoyancy aid. I used to wear one even on canals. You can be knocked out falling off any boat and it’s possible to drown in an inch of water. A good friend told me once that if anyone laughs because you’re wearing a life jacket, they’re the fool, not you.

I was on a boat that capsized and was in 50° water for 40 minutes. What saved my life was the life vest I was wearing and the PLB alreay in it along with a handheld VHF that I managed to grab before going in. I will always wear the correct safety equipment. Good for you for posting this video!

The guy not putting kids in life vests should not be allowed to supervise kids at all. But notice all these folks assume something's going to be go bad in perfect weather and conditions and that they are not hurt. If you were overboard it is much more likely the boom has knocked you off and hurt you or you are in a very bad storm. I'm a pretty good swimmer and I got knocked off a raft while whitewater rafting. We were in deep turbulent water but not Whitewater and in the 3 minutes or so it took them to get me back on board I had already swallowed water repeatedly and was struggling. Imagine that in the deep ocean during a storm with 5:10 or 20 ft waves water add 50° water

Great video! As a OUPV instructor and certified NSBC instructor this was very difficult to watch. It makes me sick to my stomach that this misinformation is being put out there- especially when it comes to the safety of children! Drowning is the leading cause of death in boating accidents and the Coast Guard estimates that upwards of 80% could have been prevented with a pfd. Best practice is to wear it all the time. Experience or skill level has nothing to do with survival once you’re over the side.

Good stuff

Everyone is fully entitled to one fatal mistake. 😀

This might be relevant. th-cam.com/users/shortskJUpkKEV9w4

Good video.

Great video

Sailing a small sailboat in costal waters. Often single handed. 1. Wear a good life west. Unless you were on the US Indianapolis, then you are excused. 2. Made the boat so you can manage all the sails from the cockpit. I am not going up front leaving the tiller and risk fall over board. 3. If tied in, it's for staying ON the boat. And only if something goeas wrong. Otherwise, stay in the cockpit! 4. Don't bite of more than you can chew! If too windy, find a more secure way or wait. Sailing is for fun, not taking unneccesary risks.

It is incredibly annoying with such categorical statements by people who want to impose their values ​​on others. The World Sailing Offshore Special Regulations (OSR) govern offshore racing, not cruising crews. In the end, it is up to each individual to educate themselves and assess what risks they want to take. In my life I have sailed and raced many boats that completely lack guardrails or any kind of harnesses. This of course increases the risk of accidents and death....but by how much? Do all people want to do what is required for maximum safety, no is the answer to that question. I and all the sailors I know have survived the last 60 years without any too serious incidents without modern maximum safety thinking. Life is full of risks, you have to choose which ones you are prepared to take and which ones you want to eliminate.

You have absolutely no idea if that carabiner is rated.

Never thought about it before, Great idea, another item to carry and hope I never need to use it. Just like life jackets or life boats, better to have and not need than to need and not have. Thanks

Christian Williams' video is in the context of solo offshore ocean passage making. A PFD won't do a single thing for him in the event of a MOB except prolong his suffering. You're getting caught squarely by dunning kruger on this topic.

great video

Mr "I never wear a life jacket" has never had the misfortune to experience falling half body into the water on a moving sailboat. During my first experience of using a trapeze on a Flying Ant as a teenager, I made the mistake of not bracing my forward leg and ended up over the side as we came over a wave. The skipper (also a teenager) froze up and didn't release the main sheet. Now I'm being dragged. It was nigh on impossible to get back into the boat while I was being practically keel hauled, and that's as a fit 16 year old. If that older man was solo sailing and fell out just that much over the side, he's being dragged over the horizon for as long as it takes for no one to come and rescue him. Just plain stupid

The armchair sailor who never goes anywhere critiquing those who do.