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@@allens3736 either a single 1/0 or single 2/0 owner cutting point pending the size of spin glo im running.

Ah yeah, breakaways are common when plunking in tribs. So rather than a hot shot clip off the bottom of the set up holding it he fixed lead, adding a small breakaway 8lb or even 10lb breakaway. Assuming you’re plunking in regular river rock, I still just run pyramids as they’ll settle in. Is the area your fishing snaggy?

@ not really snaggy but I’ve only plunked in the Columbia using the cold water strong dual leader system. So I was just wondering what set up you would recommend for normal tributaries.

@ less is more for me. Lots of stuff out there a guy can do but I keep it simple, 6 bead chain with a small duo lock that connects in the middle of the bead chain and connects the swivel for the leader to attach to. I run two of those about 44” apart and run dual 38” leaders or so. Not precise in measurements but this allows the double setup. I had it displayed in one of my previous videos. But that set up with the right size pyramid does the job in sand and rock for me

@ thanks Keith

@@Ultimateshrimpcure just watched the video with the set ups for single and double rigs 🤙🏼

@@samsmith7150 thanks! Short, sweet and simple…. The little things matter 😁

I think more people have than are willing to say so for sure.

@@Daniel-m5b3o Fishing Coonshrimp in consistency will get you thinking outside the box 😁

Yes, it’s the small things that make a difference especially with a delicate bait. 👍

@Ultimateshrimpcure does the smaller qtr piece of line on the shank ever pull out?

⁠@@colingreupner4392never has it pulled out over 1000’s of fish landed. Again, I’d say that initial piece I’m wrapping over with about 7-10 of the initial wraps on average.

@@Ultimateshrimpcure excellent, that will be my go to egg loop from now on. Appreciate the tips!

Yes for sure… 15 and 5 seem to be the perfect amount with line and hook as you incrementally move up in in size.

Thanks! 🙏

@ you still owe me a fishing trip 😉 😂

@@JesseBredeson absolutely! Caught many limits of winter steelhead over the years with them too!

Love fishing them with a small metallic blue corky. Always did well with those too.

@@mohamadrashedi5378 which in particular are you looking for?

@ looking to get shrimp cure and salmon as well I couldn’t find any store here anyway I already ordered from state lol I can wait when it’s come to curing

@ are you in WA state or Canada?

@ in Canada , Vancouver

@ ah yeah, haven’t seen a lot of your local stores pick the brand up. I’m sure they will in time. Www.pro-cure.com is your best bet perhaps? What about Amazon?

@@kennydaiker1980 it’s as natural as it can get 👍

@Ultimateshrimpcure absolutely and there is no greater feeling when a steelhead trucks your drift fishing set up,and peels line hooked many big fish on drift gear

@@user-ue1pv1wv7o every cure on the market has its time and place, we’ve developed one that’s extremely well rounded producing the most vibrant color with all the necessaries to catch salmon, steelhead, etc.

@@rodeoactionphotos Technique is the same, often the scents will change for salmon. I’ve found tuna oil from the can and pure anise oil to be two key ingredients to spring chinook and at times no scent in the fall.

Thanks much. Getting ready to do some up for fall steelhead.

@ awesome. What area you from?

From Spokane but targeting the Clearwater River.

@@rodeoactionphotos ah yes, I haven’t spent a ton of time with my recipe on the Clearwater. I have had some experience on the snake at the mouth of the grand ronde and those fish loved straight anise oil as a scent additive. Just something I witnessed when side drifting coonshrimp there from the boat

@@johnturley6091 would you look at that, there’s a name I haven’t seen in all too many years! Yes, that was as simple as 1,2,3… 😁

@@boblove6865 everywhere I’ve ever been in life a steelhead acts like a steelhead. I’ve certainly cut eggs straight out of a fish and caught one on the next cast using fresh. Have you tried the prawn chunks or steelhead candy on your fish there?

@ agreed a Steelhead acts like a Steelhead and I have fished for Steel from the Tongass to the SR in NY. I’ve never tried bait anywhere but the Great Lakes and in my 30 plus year’s experience cure has never made a difference. I will say confidence is everything and if it makes a guy confident then cure them eggs. All that said I cure my eggs for Kangs.

Good question, I never dry the steelhead candy. I see them as scent sponges so I keep them saturated in the jars and actually prefer even a little more scent than I used in the video.

@@kennguyen9125 two great questions. Squid powder does work but there are very few options. Anglers Unlimited sells a squid powder. I still like the oil for the sake of dispersion. 2. I have tried squid chunks with minimal success, I do believe the oils are more important than the meat itself as it doesn’t give off much scent.

@@pnwprospecting yeah that one goes back almost 40 years, I remember my dad using that too.

@@BlakeBurrisoutdoors one would want to freeze the skein first before vacuum sealing it. My experience is if your vacuum sealing in plastic or a bag it would crush some of the berries. Vacuum sealing in a jar works too 👍

@@thuanpham8888 great question. I honestly haven’t bought them in 10+ years. I feel like the size 10 was the size I used most? A tick smaller than a dime size

@@joebrenner4428 natural scents are a huge factor. As much as scent companies do it’s hard to replace the real thing. Artificial works for sure, but profile of a prawn chunk and their natural smells certainly draw strikes where artificial at times doesn’t. Just my .02

@Ultimateshrimpcure Sometimes but I do a lot of side drifting and when they are in there you can throw just about anything out there.The plain yarnies catch just as many as good eggs.

@@joebrenner4428 I think water temp plays a big part in that as well

@Ultimateshrimpcure Maybe.Guys on the Kenai swore by fresh cured and doctored up eggs.Like from the day before but I had some plain cured eggs that sat in the refrigerator all summer before I froze them and the following summer I swore they were the best eggs I have ever used and I started freezing all of them.The ice crystals pierce the membrane so they milk out faster which I think was the secret.

@@RichSutherland-sl7dg personally, I’ll run the Ultimate Egg Cure on eggs first. These can be used on salmon but have not been thoroughly tested. If I did use them on salmon I’d add some anise and tuna oil from a bumblebee tuna can 👍

@@werejonesen1907 understood. I don’t have the exact specifics but can attest to procure squid oil being the most well rounded scent for Steelhead here, I’d go with that without question. If you wanted to make a second batch you could do some shrimp/crawfish oils as well. I have not tested the alewife on the west coast yet 😁

@Ultimateshrimpcure Thank you! I'll give them both a try and report back a few days after Thanksgiving!

@@werejonesen1907 love the feedback!

@@oreta43 no additives needed. This formula has been trialed forever and absolutely smashes them right out of the bottle

@@coreybisbee5880 for sure! Welcome!

Haven’t tried it yet personally but there are a few guys that have reported back with success plunking summer steelhead with them

@@Annie-zf7xi absolutely! Reach out if you have any Q’s!!

@@AnthonyRubeoOutdoors thanks!!

Thanks for the vote of confidence, as you said it works 😁

@@jasminkrekic754 for sure, if there’s subjects you want help with let me know…. Happy to break it all down if needed 👍

Yes please! It’s ultra fine particles and you don’t even see it in the air.

@@colingreupner4392 😁, bring that float along and you get first water…. All fun aside, I’m happy to hear the successes and here to share all I can. What rivers are your stomping grounds?

@Ultimateshrimpcure Sounds good😉 I'm either in the Columbia on boat or plunking but my home river is a favorite of yours where the cures were birthed. I'll say hi next time I see ya there.

@@colingreupner4392 yes, thought that was you! For sure, chat soon!

Ain’t that the truth! Looking forward to them big winter natives!

Absolutely! Looking forward to another amazing Winter Steelhead Season!!

@@RickMorrell-e1x Rick, you have a great Q. Out west we fish chunk baits so singles are a little different and I’ve never cured them. I’m confident if you followed the same cure process I do for chunk bait in the video you’d have quality single eggs in spawn sacs. Make sense?

@@faqui1969 interesting question. The fish doesn’t ingest and digest the eggs before they’re harvested. So no, nothing would transfer to the meat of the fish.

@@Ultimateshrimpcurehey, thanks for your quick replay. Understand what you said. I'm brand new to salmon fishing but I notice there is a lot of cured eggs in the river after fail attempts to catch fish from many angles. So those eggs will be eaten by fish. So I'm asking you again are those products bad for people that will eat one of those fish eventually? No, I'm not talking about the ones that the fisherman will catch from his own eggs. I'm talking about other fish that are eating cured eggs, (I've even seen cured eggs in plastic containers left for good, right next to the river, when a small rain will put them in the water) from all other angles that can get their hooks set quick enough. Honest answer please.

@@faqui1969 can’t say I’ve thought that far down the line but most companies use salt, sugar and some companies use coloring to preserve the bait. Not exactly anything humans don’t already consume.

@@Ultimateshrimpcure thanks man. I was thinking about that today, when I was looking for a video to cure my own eggs and I saw a video of a guy really paying close attention to not get any of that stuff in his hands with gloves and mask. Thanks again for your info.

Glad you like them! Send pics of the results to the Ultimate Egg Cure Facebook page 👍

I prefer to add extras at the time of fishing rather than in the curing process, if your 100% confident the species targeted will want the ingredient your adding then yes you could. But you can’t take it back out if you choose to do so. Make sense?

@@shawnbowen6833 yes. That works too for sure! Just love the ease of kids scissors, they’re quick when you get used to them 😁

@@Ultimateshrimpcureyou’re awesome just bought some cure wish me luck 😊

@ holler if you have any Q’s!

@@kennguyen9125 I’ll thaw in the fridge the day before and fish them.

There are times I’ll lay them in a large tupperware tray on a couple layers of paper towels the eve before at room temp, I’ll wrap the top with Saran wrap and poke 4-5 holes to allow them to breathe a little or crack the lid. At times I’ll sprinkle a light amount of sodium sulfite on them to help gummy bear them up a little more. Hope that helps 😁

@@scottolson7841 yes you should after a max of 14 days, the curing process is stopped when they freeze.

@Ultimateshrimpcure i couldn't just fish them after the 12 days? I wanna do it right sorry if being a dip stick lol

@@scottolson7841 oh I hear what your asking now. Yes you can fish them at any point in the curing process, I prefer mine to cure 7-12 days and yes at any point you can take and fish them, they do not need frozen unless you intend long term storage 👍

@@Ultimateshrimpcure thanks hell yea

Do I gotta air dry them sorry

Yes, keep them in the fridge through the cure process for best results.

@@Ultimateshrimpcure Thanks!!

Sorry for the late response was out fishing today! 😁 Not sure where your located but lots of retail places on the west coast. ultimateeggcure.com/available-retailers The above link shows the current major retailers but there’s a lot of smaller shops that carry it too. The www.ultimateeggcure.com site offers it as well if needed.

@@Ultimateshrimpcure I’m from the Wisconsin and it’s all good lol

@@wiscohuntfish some places out that way starting to order and stock the cure, results out your way are showing to be stellar as well on kings and steelhead.

@@PapaChilly26 thank you! It’s jars only for me, I can’t get behind vacuum sealing eggs in bags risking eggs getting popped in the process. I’d much prefer to vacuum seal a jar if needed. I have a dedicated bait fridge and freezer so space is not an issue.

@@Ultimateshrimpcure Thank you!!

@@BonktonBoysProductions I cure in the refrigerator for 7-12 days. I’ve heard of people doing garage temps under 55 but for me it’s the refrigerator. Any other questions, hoping my video makes it an easy step by step process 👍

Do you let them dry after the 7 to 12 days if so for how long?

@@kobemoren5616 no I put them in the jars and freeze them wet. So straight from the large curing jar to the pint or quart I intend to freeze them in.

@@marcodevecchis8145 thanks for reaching out and thanks for trying the cure. Hearing great feedback from your areas and the king fishing. Out of the gates I’d run the bait straight but I’m a nut for procure squid oil or their sand shrimp oil. Let me know how else I can assist!

@@Ultimateshrimpcure Your recommended cure time is 7-12 days correct? The Addicted guys were saying 3 days on their video.

@@marcodevecchis8145 yes, 95% of fisherman do 1-3 days cure process. The UEC does wonders when it ferments in the 7-12 day process, ultimately creating an alcohol in the egg to help dispersion of the lipids and proteins from the eggs through the water column quicker to hit their noses with more scent if that makes sense. I’ll be on the addicted podcast in a few weeks and happy to answer any egg cure questions there too 👍 My cure is different than any others on the market considering this process and the successes will express themselves when the longer term cure process happens as described.

@@Ultimateshrimpcure Thanks so much!!

@@seanjohnson8622 Wow! It’s been quite some time since seeing ya! Howdy!!

@@jbutchben I think this is a great question. I’ve always used scent free soaps and detergents. I can’t say if it factors in or not but I do agree it’s worth being attentive to 👍

@@yyoohh I run 2/0 Owner Cutting points for those fish