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It's always good to hear from you Perma. Glad you see the potential that many do in this game.

Nicely done!!

the run is also FS (Full Soup)

Massive congrats on the Lunatic NMNB here, amazing work :) run had me on the edge of my seat. Thank you for all the feedback, I've heard most of these from others too, so it's good to hear consensus on more of the same good and bad so I know what needs work. Anything that wasn't already on my to-do list in your feature wishlist has been added :)

DLW the 2nd Please make the final boss be 15 minutes long

fishpogtane

First (real no cheats)

**Scoring mechanics** [IMPORTANT] Due to a bug in the game, turning off the "toasts" option (which displays big numbers showing score bonuses associated with enemy kills and spirit pickups whenever those happen) prevents said score bonuses from being awarded to your score. Most of my observations below were based off of this bugged score system, which means they're probably inaccurate. I'm honestly not sure which one I prefer, though; the bugged score system is a lot more demanding and scorevival-oriented and seems kinda fun to push in its own way. I learned how to score stage 1 (although I didn't bother in this winning run) so I have some idea of how a scorerun might go. All this information was found empirically so I may be slightly mistaken on some points (hopefully not). Your main source of score is from doublecaps - shooting down spells while the boss is in a charging animation doubles the spell bonus. Spell bonuses start at 500*(stage number + 1)*PIV. Your PIV is always set to 10k at the start of each stage. How do you get PIV, you ask? - Killing an enemy with a field around it: +100 per field - Killing an enemy from within its field: +100 per field you're inside (these two don't apply for the rainbow spirit familiars that spawn on boss nons) - Picking up a spirit: +100 - Destroying an on-screen spirit as a result of a combo: +500 - Getting a combo containing only blue or rainbow spirits: +10k So you want to get PIV as high as possible on the stage, then cash in on spell bonuses during the boss. With these in mind, here are some things I have mixed feelings about. 1. The game seems to be encouraging you to get as many combos as possible, and even has a nifty EIoS counter showing you how many you've gotten on the current stage, but as you can see here, that number has zero effect on your score whatsoever. Whenever possible, you want to actively pop red and green spirits with a combo to squeeze out 500 PIV each from them, because picking them up gets you nothing instead. My survival route gets more combos on stage 1 than my scoring route, and that just feels... weird? Stages in general feel designed more for combo maximisation, and they don't flow as well for scoring. 2. Certain stage chapters randomly spawn mirrored. This isn't that big of a deal in the demo since there's usually downtime between chapters, or you can route s to account for the uncertainty. But it could cause future problems if the devs aren't careful with stage design. 3. Enemy colours are not always static, making routing a pain (this issue is very prevalent on stage 1 and can influence your route execution and PIV a fair bit). 4. The timed kill system is nice in concept but a bit annoying in practice. Some of the timings feel especially bad (e.g. Byakuren's final - she charges up immediately after moving, while you're still stuck in place dodging lanes of notes and can't follow her). **Survival and pattern design** Overall comments: - I don't like how midbosses are implemented as two-phase pseudo-timeouts (you don't get the spell bonus if you don't shoot down phase 1). This is especially egregious on stage 1 because getting a quick kill on the nonspell causes extra time to be added to the timer on the spell. It just adds even more padding to an already long game. - There are some filler stage sections which I just really dislike and are super monotonous. The biggest offender is probably 1-3, which is unnecessarily long and repetitive (it's also really annoying to optimise PIV gain on that section, too). Singling out more specific patterns: - All of Byakuren's spells last 1-2 waves too long. - Byakuren LS. The bouncing star is cute and all, but it feels really jank to actually play around. Also, Byakuren really shouldn't be moving around on this card. - Futo and Nue midbosses. Seriously. Why use these start-stop bullets? They're horrible. Quite frankly if the arrows behaved like normal bullets the spell would be a lot more suited for stage 2. - In particular, for Futo midboss, it's easier to hug the side of the wall and time it out there. Watch for which way the initial wave of arrows rotate; if they go clockwise, stick to the right wall, and if they go anticlockwise, stick to the left wall. You'll want to stay low on the first and last waves. - All of Futo's nons except her first are overtuned. It's way more comfortable to time them out. - Futo's first card is static + aimed, so it's free. - Sake Tornado behaves similarly every time if you do the same things. This strat is consistent. There's no need to nerf this (other than removing the boss bonking mechanic); I think it's a great stage 2 puzzle card. - The timer on Futo's final feels strangely short. - Futo's LS really needs a nerf. The second dragon spawns from an effectively random location with very little delay, and it can easily cut you off or otherwise meme you really hard (yes, it tracks you slightly too, and it can drift sideways into you after you dodge the head, too). I've gotten quite consistent at it, but I still don't like how the spell works at a fundamental level. - 3-3 kinda sucks, especially the bit with the laser wheels coming in from the sides. This is the most safe/consistent strat I could come up with for it and I still dislike it, especially that dash to kill the first sideways rainbow enemy. - Please don't patch the strat on Nue's phase 2. - Miko's fight is synced to the music, and the opening wave of spell 5 always happens when the music comes to a climax. The timers for everything leading up to this point are dynamically adjusted to account for this. In particular, spell 4 gets significantly faster/harder after 10 seconds (it lasts 20 seconds in spell practice and it's horrible), so you'll want to time out the second non to keep its timer to the absolute minimum (12 seconds). If you do this, it's completely free. - Spell 6 honestly just sucks. Everything is a tad too dense and the mentos shouldn't linger into the laser wave. It's also easy for Miko to bonk you on her way up if you're too slow. - Please please please please please please delete like half the butterflies on spell 8. It's terrible. It's disgusting. The last wave in particular is so tight on the time limit that if you get crappy butterfly spawns you're simply going to die and there's nothing you can do about it. The only saving grace this pattern has is that the gaps are static. - Spell 9 is also somewhat overtuned in general. Also, it's very easy to accidentally time this spell out if you don't follow Miko around, and her movement is not deterministic. Maybe make her movement follow a pattern or something. (Incidentally, Marisa has a worse time killing the green/blue lanterns on this spell for some reason, contrary to what you'd expect.) - Spell 10 is really claustrophobic and desperately needs a density nerf (for a typical game's Lunatic stage 3, the first wave would be fine, but not anything after). It really made me wish that butterfly sprites were smaller, because you really have to squeeze within their sprites on the later waves. Also, you get less space for each successive spin and this makes it really easy to get bonked by Miko on the third spin.

GG dude!

wow

You can stay retired as long as you want if it means you keep making videos like this.

omagad he finally did that

GG

nice

good job hacker gg

What a odd choice to have the ending and the credits in the Extra stage instead of the main game.

After seeing the ridiculous Absurdly Extra version of the stage so many times, finally getting to see the normal Extra actually be reasonable is quite surprising.

can you give me the download link?

something feels weird

1:33

looks cool! where's this from?

Yo Perma, what's the easiest team to LNN with? I wanna try getting LNN or at least low miss LNB

this is peak, gg tho wtf why is playing a game equivalent to finishing dozens of college scripts

GG

they call len'en abex the real clueless central

> lenen > v1.10 > Absurdly Extra so this is how rough the semester's been...

the lenen survival run community making big strides this month

Literally superplayer Also is that Chinese patch, 酷 Also damn 1 live only worth 10M?

Well played! This boss is an abomination and watching it get cheesed is what justice looks like. My condolences about the thesis.

You aren't Chinese?

ok super

To this day, scientists (i.e. me) are still unsure about the mechanics of Clause's gravity wells. I can tell you for sure that gravity doesn't work the way JynX thinks it does. The bullets have a strong tendency to rotate anticlockwise within the gravity well, regardless of where or what direction they entered from... except when they don't, and rotate clockwise instead. It just doesn't make sense and makes things even more unpredictable than they already are. Pre-mid: There is literally nothing to say about this. Mid1: Due to the aforementioned gravity well behaviour, the bottom left is usually safe... until it isn't. Keep a flashbomb in case weird situations arise. How long this spell lasts depends heavily on how much Clause sticks to the opposite side of the screen. Mid2: Micro in the bottom-left and flashbomb if things get weird. This takes quite a bit of getting used to. Mid3: Notice how some bullets on my right curve away from me, even though that's not how gravity is supposed to work? We can take advantage of this. The idea here is to "stream" rightwards by staying just ahead of a bullet lane, then cutting back left when the pattern permits. You will have to deal with stray bullets curving left towards you, but at least it's not all of them (like you'd expect). Don't bottomhug; if you get a weird formation you will need some space to back down. Post-mid: Immediately after the midboss, start near the lives on the top right and start moving down focused until you hit "Power", then head left. Rush left once the second wave spawns. For the third wave, you can use the shrine road in the background as a marker for your horizontal position to avoid running into the fairies - you should be directly above where the right edge meets the bottom of the screen. Non1: Keep an eye out from ninja bullets coming out from the bottom of the screen, usually moving left at a shallow angle (see 3:53 - I got really lucky here). If possible, stay a bit higher to avoid being surprised. Sp1: The idea is to flashbomb to cross the invisible section while switching circles, but things almost never work out like they're supposed to. You can get bad wall spawns and either be unable to recharge your flashbomb in time for the next wave (like in this run), or the walls can get in your way and prevent you from following the circle. Luckily the spell is fairly sparse and you can look up and try to memorise what's coming, so you can usually still get away with it even when everything goes wrong. Non2: - Sp2: Score strat. For the starting position, align the middle-right of Yabusame's head with Tsurubami's left foot. If you're entering without a full flashbomb gauge, spam X once you're in position. You'll get a flashbomb in time before the amulets reach you (yes, even if you started with an empty gauge). Non3: Slightly spooky, especially when the bubbles spawn really low on screen. Sp3: The elongated bullet that shoots out when bubbles teleport is fast enough (only on AbEx) that proper positioning allows their hitbox to skip past you entirely. For the initial position, start slightly up-right of the Tsurubami's stick thing - the blue(?) part of the grazebox should be just touching its tip. For the flashbomb timing, start counting firing noises once the bubbles teleport; flashbomb and move up on the 7th noise. To finish the spell, stay just below (NOT on) Tsurubami's feet. Non4: Same as non 1. Sp4: The waves are the same every time, so just do what I do. I did the first wave in this weird way to graze out a flashbomb in preparation for non 5. It's a bit difficult to judge when exactly the bullets start moving, so just start tapping up slowly when you think they are about to. Non5: Pretty nasty and has a tendency to box you in. The bullet type makes it quite hard to read, too. Use a flashbomb if necessary. Sp5: The black bullets are a non-issue because your shot reveals them even when the background is black. When the background is white, you can still kinda see the white bullets if they pass over a black bullet. It's generally a good idea to look up and memorise the white bullet locations before they become too hard to see. Non6: - Sp6: Static. The starting position is on Tsurubami's feet. Rotating in a gap that's further out makes it easier and less precise, but it's a bit hard to recognise the pattern and get into the right spot when the spell first starts up. Non7: - Sp7: Again, align the middle-right of Yabu's head with Tsurubami's left foot, then tap left until you're also grazing the other bullet wave. Now spam flashbombs to win. Non8: A few pointers: 1. As much as possible, you want to go around the BoWaP when it coalesces, instead of trying to make the tight squeeze like I did at 8:19. 2. Sometimes Tsurubami starts doing the BoWaP while hugging the opposite side of the screen and you'll have to dodge it at an angle. This is a bit spooky. 3. You will always get your flashbomb back from the aimed phase, so don't be afraid to use them for safety. You might want to save one for the next spell though. Sp8: Use your flashbombs to get past tough formations instead of wasting time trying to squeeze through them slowly. Otherwise, the laser might catch up to you - Yabusame's flashbomb isn't very good for going through the laser as a last ditch effort. Other than that, this is pretty straightforward. Sp9: Straightforward and routable for the most part. You need to be in the corner of the square on the last phase or you won't get enough graze to chain flashbombs - I was already barely getting them off in time. Don't rush to get into position or you might bump into the wall instead. Be a bit conservative with your vertical position - notice how the bottom wall fluctuates up and down somewhat randomly. If you're too close, it might jank its way upwards and kill you. (I lost a run to this once.) Sp10: Super easy all things considered, but quite scary on pace because you don't know if you can trust your eyes. Keep an eye out for black bullets when you hear the boss explosion start, because they will be pretty much invisible during the slowdown, and you CAN still get hit.

2:10 why stale it out? It literally gives you less points for that

What outsiders see when they look at Touhou: 0:30

No way...

is this ver. 1.00a?

The Tenkai fight ending at the last part of Present World Overhaul....

Azathoth, ruler of the outer Gods, symbol of primordial chaos, the most hideous eldritch abomination... is a fuckin fat furry. Truly ironic

Shou's Pagoda or Shining Needle Castle

I can't imagine how many hours this video must've taken...

Thank god this game is more balanced than Mystical Power Plant

Finally, some creative Megumu nonspells

0:56

best pattern in SoHW tbh just because it makes for a good video

finally, some good enemy spam stages

æ megumu 2nd non

bruh why does the stage look 10x easier with marisa than with sakuya i hate it here

"Spell 11 is a war crime" LOL

"ok but creepy has 1/1 on it" - oh dear, they really say that? 😂 Truth be told, that one single cap was unexpected, good RNG blessing nothing more. Because yes, this spellcard is really... "interesting" :V

This.... oh this looks horrendous