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@RenatoKazuo8w. Hey thank you for the comment and checking out the video. It's the same thing as not wanting or caring for accuracy when watching a movie. This is not an accuracy comparison. As far as colors taking away from details goes, I think it depends on the color itself. I notice details not being as good in the colored with dtm on but in more natural tones it lg dies a rather good job preserving details. I'm not much of a fan of accuracy or creators intent. If that was what I wanted I wouldn't spend the money on tvs at this price point. These tvs arcade to adjust and tune them to really pop and shine if you so choose to. And in gaming that's where I like them set. It's a personal preference that's all. And not a single soul should tell another whether there settings are correct or incorrect. It's totally fine how you prefer your tvs settings and it's perfectly fine how I like my own. Not the biggest fan of accuracy of colors. As long as I can get that wow factor I'm happy

@@consumerreview2k Hi, you are absolutely right, it is a matter of preference, thank you for making me realize that and sorry for trying to impose my preferences.

​@@consumerreview2khello! Please compare these two TVs not in games but in movies and have poor quality.

Wrong the S90D has the 1Gen panel and doesn't reach 2000nits with AnaPeak 1023!!

@@loopcx3761 gen 2 and is confirmed using the hdr Windows calibration app

But if there is no 83" QD Oled coming I think I'am just getting either the 83" G4 or 77" A95L and call it quit.

A95L is the best OLED you can buy right now.

In SDR content, as is likely the case in this video, the LG G4 can be up to 60% brighter than the S90D; in HDR, the difference narrows dramatically, as you can see in the God of War videos. But this will only matter if you use your TV's brightness at maximum, DTM is LG's impressive hack here.

I think he is using Dynamic Tone Mapping on the G4, in the first comparison video with GOW you can see the huge difference in this mode, with DTM turned off, the S90D is almost at the same level.

And that’s about it

​@@kamarrawlings6285 better gradient with no visible color banding, unlike WOLED which is basically visible in every color. QD OLED panel is much cleaner. And that rec 2020 coverage is what makes hdr the best experience on QD OLED. it does 90%+ rec2020 against the 75% on the G4. QD OLED is the superior technology. And LG should jump aboard on it.

QD OLED is superior tech. Better picture quality overall. Both rtings and hdtvtest confirmed it.​@@kamarrawlings6285

You must always look at what the new update corresponds to (on the internet) before installing them on your TV

I have the A95L and installed the latest firmware update and this is the best picture I have ever seen in my life. No tv come close to A95L.

@@lycosa615was it improved from the previous update, if so, what are the differences?

There’s an update sitting up there now I haven’t made. Trying to see if I need to wait to update, what problems did you run into?

@@504cool Don’t do it, I’d say. My beautiful tv is now screwed. I’m lucky I bought the geek squad warranty, 1,000 bucks. Plus it’s under mfg warranty still. Will see what happens. Not cool

more importantly is a 83" size option for QD Oled.

@dante19890 Hey there thank you for the comment and checking out the video. No it's not the focus of the camera. I actually wanted to concentrate the focus on the camera more so It looks more clear because the G4 kind of takes over the overall image of the 2 tvs because it's brighter. But you can clearly see at times when the S90D looks more clear then the g4 in certain situations and color. Like the intro to the game for example the blue wording of CONCRETE GENIE. It does look better and more clear there

@consumerreview2k I think I heard you say the DTM ( dynamic tone mapping) was enabled on the G4 ?

@dante19890 yes it mostly is just to get overall brightness up. I can tune white and black levels solely after that to my liking after that. Really depends on what I prefer based off the game I'm playing.

@@consumerreview2k the problem with DTM on LG is it manipulates the EOTF curve (hdr version of gamma) so dark scenes and mid tones gets brighter than they should be. Its clearly visable in this video. G4 is a brighter tv, but the only thing that should be brighter in a dark scenes are the highlights., not the overall scene as a whole.

@dante19890 that's the same complaint dtm has always had. But for gaming it's almost necessary to have on if you want overall brightness. You can get a little more brightness out of it outside of game mode when gaming but it doesn't provide that pop that you want when gaming. Also remember the reason why game optimizer gives you more then one way to utilize black levels along with being able to control your white levels makes it customizable all while having dtm on. So it's very flexible. Ithe g4 can get very bright while still maintaining clarity. All while being really good at maintaining details. There are times when it's obviously an issue. Like walking out of a dark tunnel with light at the end and looking completely blown out. Or looking washed out in backgrounds due to dtm on. But it's gotten at least better. Dtm is the vivid mode of tone mapping. It may not be accurate or highlights can be blown out but it's still very punchy and can give you that wow factor too.

That would not affect anything here.

Nothing

it does is uselless in pc gaming , on top of that coonect box is piece of ggarbagge and yoou wwill ssufffer of bblack outts . Forrget 144hz and fulll 444 chroma at 4k

Dynamic tone mapping on, will make the large image area brighter. Not just highlights. It's the wrong solution here. It makes bright areas darker and dark areas brighter.

You do know different tv have different processing methods ?? otherwise every tv would be exactly the same i’ve never read so much waffle in my life . Please don’t come online saying every tv looks same in game mode is the stupidest thing i’ve heard this year

@@braden9536 There is a difference in details comparing Sony QD Oled and Samsung QD Oled when gaming also. The TV's do processing beyond what the source is sending. This includes how they map tones using different algorithms for their panels and tuning and other image enhancements that are not user configurable. It's true this demo is not 1:1 with native HDR settings. But even then they will look different. Samsung game mode runs over saturated and over brightened out of the box. LG has the wrong color temp. You need to correct some of that at last if you want something close to the creators intent. Though when it comes to gaming, I don't think creators intent matters as much as if you like how it looks.

I must say this is a very uinformed and clueless comment. Is it you Quantum?

@@stefanandersson6750 hahahaha... Gold

@jiffjaff9018 Hey thank you for the comment and checking out the video. Means allot. I personally liked the s95c better. I thought it was still brighter and better build quality and better overall picture quality. Upscaling seems similar to me. The only issue I had was the constant dropouts of the s95c in gaming on my ps5. That truly was the worse experience I ever had on a tv for that reason. But when it worked, it was an amazing tv

@@consumerreview2k Will the G4 work in a living room thats bright from natural sunlight or semi bright with the blinds closed?

@Bronco2Cj I've had the g4 on with multiple ceiling lights on and it still shined through just fine in my living space situation so I can say my experience was very good and no issues

Bought one and returned it. Screw that matte coating. Unless you are fighting direct reflections, it's not worth the contrast hit.

@braden9536 odd. I had no contrast hit. There is probably a difference in the lighting

@@ehenningsen Even with ambient non-direct light it lifts the blacks on the S95D. This problem existed with semi matte screens for a long time and people said the same thing. The S95D does have amazing brightness and color though. If you enjoy your TV. That's all that matters. Everyone has preferences.

@exhibitD79 I'm gaming on my S90C right now, I do not see any difference in blacks from my S95D - except for from HDR range where it is significantly improved on the S95D. I'm only speaking from experience on my two sets

@@ehenningsen As I said, this occurs with ambient light on the screen. It's been demonstrated on a few channels already including Rtings. That doesn't make it a bad TV. It's a consideration for the lighting conditions.

I think he is using Dynamic Tone Mapping on the G4, in the first comparison video with GOW you can see the huge difference in this mode, with DTM turned off, the S90D is almost at the same level.

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@@tr4687 I can show you on the video where you can see that there is a flicker on the screen, if you don't believe it, check for yourself, at my house lg g4 you get very tired of it, it's impossible to watch for a long time.

@@Deniskin77 did it ever come to ur mind that u have a broken unit? if u see flickering in video its bc of the camera and not the tv. dont believe this guy.

​@@dwight2310I was about to say I doubt this guy even has a c1 🤣

All OLED TVs flicker about the same amount, but it's not PWM flicker like on almost all LCD TVs, but a tiny drop in brightness at the refresh rate. Looking at the RTINGS reviews of both these models, the flicker graphs are **literally** indistinguishable between the G4 and S90D, except for the 0% brightness graph where the S90D seems to flicker slightly more... If you can tolerate one but not the other it's either due to settings, some non-flicker-related effect or psychological.

How’s it compare? I’m planning on making the same jump.

Very nice upgrade. Enjoy!!

@tylerstirling2843 No comparison, if your upgrading from a cx. It is night and day. I didn't think there would be a big difference because the cx is good. But next to the g4. It's trash. I'm already planing to upgrade my other cx now. Don't wait it's worth every penny.

@@tylerstirling2843 I did the same, from 48 in CX to 55 in G4 as pure PC monitor and in gaming I think it's a noticeable improvement. The brightness in HDR is a nice step up, and there is no more slightly muted colors in game mode with the G4 which is probably the best part. I don't think it's like a MASSIVE difference though, but I almost exclusively play in a dark room so maybe that is a factor. Either way I'm not disappointed and I like the upgrade.

@@mkyeny9 Are colors more vivid on the G4? I know game mode has been fixed, but I’m curious if colors are all around brighter and more pure with MLA. Aside from the bump in brightness, do you see any other picture quality improvements that separate it from the CX? Thank you!