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Terraforming Mars Online #118 - 3p Venus Next!
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Terraforming Mars Online #116 - Robinson Industries is underrated!
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  • @ondrejlinhart4881
    @ondrejlinhart4881 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For Point Luna I would rather give it an opportunity to pay 1 or 2 MC for the new card rather than rotating it, idea for Terractor is an interesting one, but psychologicaly, if I´d play agains it, I would never ever play Earth tag, since for Earth to use it properly, you need to play a lot of them for cartel for example

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@ondrejlinhart4881 interesting idea for Point Luna that would also nerf it significantly, since it's not strong economically. For Teractor: I think many earth tags are really strong on their own and you don't really need to get a lot of them down to make the most out of them. A card like Large Convoy ist just always great.

  • @solarupdraft
    @solarupdraft 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you play or recommend any house rules for the strongest or weakest corps? New viewer, thanks for your work on this series. [Edit: For any future viewers, he's already made a video on this, "How to BALANCE the Base Game and Prelude Corporations?!?"]

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@solarupdraft hahaha yeah, I made a video about this, but I have to admit, I have never used any house rules as I am sadly not playing the game on the board very often. I moved for work last year and left my board gaming buddies behind...

  • @sistoametrano4808
    @sistoametrano4808 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's always a pleasure to watch your games, IkkoManu. And since you've played the Venus expansion, I'd like to point out something: If I add the cards from the base game, the Corporate Era, the Prelude and Venus, I get 264 cards; but when the game begins, there are 263 cards. After many games, I realized that the missing one is Sponsored Academies. Do you know of a way to communicate this to the game developers? I look forward to your next video!

    • @Noaaaaaaaaaah
      @Noaaaaaaaaaah 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They know, it has been removed by the developers temporarily for causing bugs. From the Terraforming Mars beta discord, February 27 2024: "For the first time we are temporarily removing a card (Sponsored Academies) that is causing issues when reloading saves. In our perspective, better having this card unavailable for now than making a large part of the games it was used in unavailable!"

    • @sistoametrano4808
      @sistoametrano4808 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you very much!

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@sistoametrano4808 you already got your question answered, but I'd like to point out that Sponsored Academies is gone for months already, so hopefully it get's fixed at some point soon!

  • @NightmareKid_VR
    @NightmareKid_VR 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I recently played security fleet gen 1 in a 4p tournament match against a 450 elo as MG and had a close win. I think it’s very situational. I believe I played lava flows to get 1 titanium bonus placement and then played and activated it gen 1. Otherwise yeah it’s not a very dank card but better than nothing for sure.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@NightmareKid_VR I would be very careful with the phrase "better than nothing". With Security Fleet you need to decide really early on whether you want to invest one titanium every gen into this card for the rest of the game. If you have no other titanium target on hand, this might seem like the right decision and if you never draw an alternative then yes, that is indeed the case. But if you play Security Fleet gen 1, then draw onto Deimos, Imported Hydrogen, Large Convoy and GIA, then the titanium you spent on it was just a bad investment. So yeah, sometimes it's really worse than nothing...

  • @prizmik
    @prizmik 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Anyone else notice there is no episode 23?

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi there! Thanks for letting me know...the video exists, it just wasn't part of the playlist. Added it to it just now :)

    • @prizmik
      @prizmik 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marsexpert4276 Thanks for the quick reply buddy, I am new player, just hit 200 rating on BGA, loving the game. Using your spreadsheet for the tier list, really helpful. Do you plan to or have already made a tier list for corporate cards? Looking forward to it!

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@prizmik I have one tier list for the base game corps, one for prelude corps and one for Venus Next corps and also one for the preludes. I have made new versions for each of these tier lists, so you can check them out on my channel :) thanks for your support!

  • @960Lionheart
    @960Lionheart 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Mars Expert. I’ve been climbing the rankings and am almost on par with you. I will challenge you soon and look forward to our combat!

  • @teddyaddison4949
    @teddyaddison4949 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think this guy might like research network...

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It changed a bit since I made this video over two years ago :D I still think it's a solid engine prelude, but whenever you're going for a rush, there are much better ones out there!

  • @iantaylor2331
    @iantaylor2331 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Here’s a fun question you: what’s the worst card in the entire game including Venus. Security Fleet has to be bottom 5 in my view but probably AAA. Tough to say what the best card in the game is.

    • @jeffreyculbert2093
      @jeffreyculbert2093 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hackers. Always bad. Never useful except for when you’re already dominating opponent(s) and want to rub it in that you’re willing to delay winning to make a meme play. At least almost every other bad card has niche use cases that are legitimately competitive, Hackers does not.

    • @dtmrea247
      @dtmrea247 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jeffreyculbert2093 In most situations (solo, 3-5 players, 2 player late game) you're right, but in the early generations of a 2 player game, hackers is very good. Consider the math: 1 energy production should cost you 11MC at most, and the card costs you 6MC at most, for a maximum of 17MC to give you 2MC per gen and take 2MC/gen from your opponent - a difference of 4MC/gen. If you did that in gen 2 of a game that's going to last 12 generations, that's a 40MC-17MC = 23MC difference over the course of the game. Now, would you pay 23MC for a single victory point? Considering at the end of the game you could easily be paying 23-25MC for 2 VP with standard project greeneries/cities (and should probably have much more cash-efficient ways to get VPs), you'd rather have the 23MC than 1VP, meaning a difference of at least 23MC over the course of the game is well worth losing the victory point to play hackers in a 2 player game.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think it's Underground Detonations. If I had to nominate an expansion card it would probably be Venus Soils.

  • @iantaylor2331
    @iantaylor2331 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

  • @lingyeung1007
    @lingyeung1007 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Satellite is more niche than good. More times it is correct to take it just to hatedraft it away from the oppo, however im usually happy playing it for +4mc, which still requires a bit more of a lean towards jovs. It does get significantly better with colonies though. Space discount cards as a whole have gone down the more i play the game. That is both space station and shuttles are super mid.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think Satellites, Space Station and Shuttles all have their niche and it's kinda similar: Engine with science and Jovs. In that strategy all of these cards can be really good, but if you're rushing or doing anything else, they are as you said mid.

  • @krysto2012
    @krysto2012 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Unrelated to the other comment, the biggest mistake people make when playing Satellites is holding on to the card too long when their hand is full of space tags. They think, if I just delay this a gen or 2, I can make it worth a little bit more and by the time Satellites does come down they're getting +5 or more MC but that's typically a mistake, in my opinion. Satellites is a perfectly reasonable card to play Gen 1-2 if you have 2-3 existing Space tags and unless you're waiting until the end of the game that's when you should play it, especially if you have some incidental titanium. The problem is, however, that there are very few corps/preludes with space tags, so getting those space tags down can be quite difficult, and most of the cheap space tags are non-productive in nature. If you look at it through the lens of "this functionally adds 1 MC Prod to all those non-production space tag cards" that still doesn't suddenly make them proactively playable. You shouldn't be dropping a Trans-Neptune Probe or Lagrange Observatory just to chain into Satellites. It's a card that looks good on paper, but the numbers just do not work out in its favor.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, you're right. A lot of space tags aren't supposed to be played early on or are just to expensive to get down. But with just two of them, Satellites already yields the same development as Acquired Company which I placed in C tier. And in addition to that, it has the upside of being a Banker swing.

  • @krysto2012
    @krysto2012 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So fun fact, I actually wrote up a 4-page essay about opportunity cost and Security Fleet to illustrate why it's bad. As I was writing it, I did a bunch of math and the whole time I thought that SF cost 10 MC, only to find out that it was somehow WORSE than I thought at 12 MC. Resources in the early game should be evaluated as being worth more than their face value, depreciating over time until the end of the game. Cards like Acquired Company, Mine, Sponsors and the like, played gen 1, have an RoI that makes each credit spent worth between 2-3 MC by the end of the game, so as a rule of thumb it's worth evaluating resources spent on Gen 1 as being twice their face value. To that end, if you adjust the costs of Security Fleet to compensate for the appreciated value of resources over the course of the game, it ends up being something like 1.5x as expensive to run as it seems and suddenly that price per point starts looking really bad. Plus, it only takes one big space card to make use of a pile of titanium and cards like Large Convoy exist. Never got around to publishing it, it's just sitting on my desktop, I really should get around to editing it.

  • @user-xz7ps7hn1g
    @user-xz7ps7hn1g 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had question about Security fleet. For example the game will take 10 turns, I play Security fleet at 5 turn, as a result I will get 6 points for 33MC. Is it comparable with Large Convoy? It will bring a little bit less VP, but much more flexible (If you don't have any animal card and no one can not kill your fighter). Is it a good ratio 5.5MC for 1 VP?

    • @davidkalichman
      @davidkalichman 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As Mars Expert mentioned, the issue with Security Fleet is its "opportunity cost." Spending 18MC to basically do nothing really sets you back, especially in the early-to-mid game when you want to be building your economy and increasing your combo potential. In contrast, large convoy gives you all of its points at once. Plus it draws you two cards and gives you value from the ocean tile placement. Also, it's a space event with an Earth tag, so it has tons of possible discounts and synergies.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In that scenario you spend a lot of the cost much earlier than with Large Convoy, which usually gets played last gen. It also draws you 2 cards and the ocean can let you convert or pick up other bonuses. Security Fleet is a HUGE investment for "just" points. And a big part of it needs to be paid early on, where you could use that money and titanium to develop your engine.

  • @fortunastreet
    @fortunastreet 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Security fleet is basically a 12 + 3MC card that also costs an extra titanium and "decreases" your titanium prod by 1. 28 MC worth of value for 1 point per turn. What a steal! S+ card!

    • @illumina91
      @illumina91 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Security fleet is garbage , 12+3mc to draw it , 15 with no points , then +3 cause a titanium is 3 useally worth , so 18 for 1points , its terrible , 21 for 2points , 24 for 3points , and the badge isnt helping , its not a joviens or science tag . foor 3 points over 24mc , u could get 9mc form that titanium for way better use , this cripple you on productions purpose

    • @fortunastreet
      @fortunastreet 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@illumina91 I think your jokes detector is not working.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      hahaha point well made...It's actually quite interesting to just add the price of the titanium prod to see what you're really paying. It's just shit, yeah :D

  • @ondrejlinhart4881
    @ondrejlinhart4881 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh one more think! For TM me and my family did few cards and corps. that we play with, can I send it to you? I would like to see your observation. Also, for some terribly imbalanced cards we did some adjustments and also I´d like to see your oppinion

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You can definitely send them to me! My twitter is linked in the description, it's probably easiest to connect there :)

  • @ondrejlinhart4881
    @ondrejlinhart4881 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice comments, what I would like to see as well would be some rating 0-10 regarding creativity and 0-10 regarding ballance. There are cards that are really creative, but crazy overpowered, some that are pretty well balanced just miss some fun elements, so that would be nice to add

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't know whether I wanna give specific values to the cards I'm reviewing in this series, but I'll try to give my opinion on balance and creativity more clearly for each card in the future :)

  • @cw7665
    @cw7665 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    After the AI central the game started looking very grim, after agt the game turned to impossible

  • @cw7665
    @cw7665 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    BGA version is much more superior tbh: it shows everything u need on one tab (including victory points, no need to scroll), u can undo actions and they implement changes/remove bugs in 2-3 days, compared to steam version where for many years they still have the same bugs as there were, as if they don't know how to code I remember the time when the bugs would prevent you from joining games, finishing games, picking drafts and instead if fixing them the devs just turned off the chat option (because everyone was swearing at them), that's like the biggest disrespect you can show to the players

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, the BGA version is great but not without bugs. For example there is one that prevents you from drawing cards before exercising both Mars U and Olympus Conference effects (if you have both down) which can be really gamebreaking. But yeah, it only seems logical to me that a game with a simple layout such as that on BGA would be patched more quickly. The developers working on Terraforming Mars on steam are very passionate, but it's a small team working on very bad original code. I'm part of the beta discord server and I know their struggle... But of course if you want to stick to BGA that's fair game. I will continue playing both versions :)

    • @cw7665
      @cw7665 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marsexpert4276 I might understand that they are small team, but what I don't understand is why bugs continue to exist over year+ I've just had a reshuffle bug in bga, I'll submit a ticket and it'll be corrected in 2-3 days, maximum a week. This is a whole different approach

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cw7665 I have no idea about coding or programming yo I really can't speak on this issue. From what I know the base code on the steam version is an absolute mess, partly because it needs to work with Asmodee Connect and that's why it takes so long to correct bugs. But again, I'm the wrong person to comment on this...

    • @SilmarPlaysBGs
      @SilmarPlaysBGs 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@marsexpert4276That bug only affects Olympus and once you have resolved it you can take other actions before Mars U cycle (like draws from Research). Forces you to resolve the ordering manually, but apart from that works as you want it to. If you click "Whatever" then yes, it resolves it the way you mentioned

  • @krysto2012
    @krysto2012 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think you have the wrong thumbnail - shows vitor instead of CSM.

    • @krysto2012
      @krysto2012 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also I absolutely love games where you accumulate a truckload of cards and pop off with AGT, but man does it suck to be on the receiving end of that.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sometimes I'm at the receiving end of the science combo and while it's not always fun, it can result in very interesting games! And regarding the thumbnail, thanks for letting me know! There has definitely been a mixup. I'll look into it when I get home from work...

  • @tomaszvexling
    @tomaszvexling 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder how it will look like after a year.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well, I hope we'll get the next season of OTML soon...

  • @sameld2685
    @sameld2685 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great vid, im new to the game and learned alot!

  • @ThreadPacifistTM
    @ThreadPacifistTM 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Events on average are probably the strongest type of card. Your criteria at the start is ranking average strength of cards with the tag, but then you put event tag in F tier, which is counter to the entire stated goal of the video. For the wild tag, Research Coordination is 7MC, not 4MC. Don't neglect the cost of buying the card in your analysis. If power tag is F, feels like City tag should be F. The only point of the tag is for diversifier. Jovians are also on average not very strong yet you put it in B. Don't agree with that assessment.

    • @peterblack_
      @peterblack_ 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe you should make your own tier list

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You're right, I should've stuck to one definition of how I want to rank the tags and probably it would have made more sense to rank the tags based on "Does the tag alone improve the quality of the card?". That question influenced my rating of the event tag, but for example clearly not of the city tag. Thanks for your input!

    • @ThreadPacifistTM
      @ThreadPacifistTM 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@peterblack_ don't see a point. He is right on most of the tags and in general I don't think knowing "the good tags" does much to advance knowledge. My tier list video is probably as much as I'll do on that topic

  • @mgcasey6468
    @mgcasey6468 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lol on that card art for Luna Governor! Love the breakdowns - thanks for making these!

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Luna Governor is one of my favourite cards because of that :D Anf thanks, I appreciate it! Glad you're enjoying the content :)

  • @EZEERIC1
    @EZEERIC1 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video, as usual! I hear you mention a bit more colonies in this video. How do you like colonies as an expansion? Personally, other than Prelude it’s the best addition to the game. Love the variety, corps, and project cards it adds. Curious to hear your thoughts!

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I definitely like it a lot. However, it changes the flow of the game quite a bit! So while I don't see a reason to play without Prelude and therefore play pretty much every game with it, I don't feel the same about Colonies. Sometimes I want to play with it, sometimes I don't. But that's not a bad thing! It increases replayability and introduces cool new mechanics, corps and projects - so definitely a top tier expansion in my opinion!

  • @960Lionheart
    @960Lionheart 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think Event tag can be moved a little higher. Optimal aerobraking obviously requires a space tag as well but is so valuable, especially in a rush set up. Not to mention media archives.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think this tier list does have a problem as some others in the comments have already pointed out. I rated some tags based on the average card quality of that tag and some on the pure value of the tag itself. The event tag itself has negative value in total in my opinion, even though it has some combo potential, since it negates all other tags. That's why I put it in F tier. However I ranked the City tag for example based on average card quality. But that's what I get for just freestyling a tier list. At least we get some interesting discussions in the comments :D

  • @sidsche3734
    @sidsche3734 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting vid. But I think you could have made your life easier if you stuck to your definition a bit more; in the beginning you say you basically rate the average quality of cards with the tag, but during the video you rate energy tag and event tag low because, even though the cards are great, the tag itself doesnt hold much value, contradicting your statement from the beginning.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes I think this tier list does indeed have a problem as some others in the comments have also pointed out. I rated some tags based on the average card quality of that tag and some on the pure value of the tag itself. So, yeah you're absolutely right. At least we get some interesting discussions in the comments :D

  • @iantaylor2331
    @iantaylor2331 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would bump micro to b tier

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Honestly, yeah you could argue for that. The average card quality isn't great but the tag has quite some combo potential.

    • @iantaylor2331
      @iantaylor2331 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marsexpert4276 good tier list though my friend :).

  • @krysto2012
    @krysto2012 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another way of looking at it would be to say "does the inclusion of this tag make the card better or worse, and if so, by how much". In the case of the City tag, it feels like a vestigial leftover from the base game that has no use other than to indicate a card places a city, it could be removed and would only impact a very small handful of cards. Curiously, Tharsis Republic is the only card that places a city tile that doesn't have the tag. (Kaguya Tech might be the second) Likewise the Event tag mostly only exists as a reminder that the card is an event and doesn't actually do anything on its own. There are cards that care about events, at least, but since the tag can never exist in a face-up state, it basically has no use. As for the remaining tags, building is, in fact the most common in all expansions, the only scenario where it is not the most common tag is some weird combination of expansions specifically EXCLUDING Prelude, which is highly unlikely. Tragically, the Jovian strategy gets heavily nerfed when you add expansions, not only diluting the pool, the multipliers (your win condition) but many of the new Jovian cards are explicitly NOT space tags as well, meaning that you cannot use titanium production as inroads to a payoff. Furthermore, cards like Io, Vesta Shipyard, Asteroid Mining etal no longer help further the strategy, which is a shame. Another point worth mentioning regarding Science Tags is that there are virtually no/very few production cards with that strategy, it focuses almost exclusively on card draw and points and more than half of them are blue cards for what's that worth.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      All very valid points, especially the one about Jovians. I didn't even consider the fact that a lot of Jovians are introduced in the expansions that do not hold a space tag (and you're completely right about that) and how that would affect the strategy. Very good observation although it probably wouldn't influence my rating that much.

    • @tomaszvexling
      @tomaszvexling 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The Event Tag will have a use for the Spire corporation. It is counted as a second tag (in space, science or earth etc. events).

    • @sammysammyson
      @sammysammyson 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      At least Hellas and Elysium add some utility for the City tag. I hope we get a city-oriented expansion someday. It would be nice for cities in general to be more useful. Hell, I would love a good reason to consider building a standard city in Gen 1.

    • @tomaszvexling
      @tomaszvexling 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sammysammyson Still other rare tags fill the same role for the Diversifier. And energy tag is earlier useful. But of course I would like to see more synergy between City and other tags.

  • @marsuniversity-tm
    @marsuniversity-tm 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not even a shout out to my tier list XD?

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ah shesh I didn't know you made one already :D

    • @marsuniversity-tm
      @marsuniversity-tm 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marsexpert4276 No worries haha, I guess mine is a bit different cause I only took into account the value of the tag and not the average quality of the cards that have the tag. Also I really like earth and jovian tags XD

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marsuniversity-tm I think your approach makes quite a bit more sense and a lot of people have pointed out the inconsistency in this video :D

    • @marsuniversity-tm
      @marsuniversity-tm 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marsexpert4276 There'svalue in both things, since you are going for synergy you always want to know how good the strategy that accompanies the tags is.

  • @manfrombc5162
    @manfrombc5162 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would swap the tier for city and event tags. I would also bump animals down to B and plants down to A. I think the science combo really sits alone.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think the plant tag really is that good, in my opinion on par with science but of course it's debatable.

    • @tomaszvexling
      @tomaszvexling 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marsexpert4276 But aren't Insects and NRA too diluted when playing with all expansions? The other green combo cards require microbes or animals while Jovian is more independent win condition.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tomaszvexling yes the green combo gets diluted, but so do the science and jovian combos as well. There are no new Jovian mults in the expansions and while there are some science combo pieces, most of them (except Warp Drive) reach the level of the best base game cards. The green combo only gets two really good new additions: GMO Contract and Topsoil Contract. But that's not nothing.

    • @tomaszvexling
      @tomaszvexling 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marsexpert4276 Ok but Topsoil buffs microbes, not plants. Jovian multipliers get diluted but you have better titan options for them and many good floater cards. I think they're stronger than before or just the same level while plant tag is less significant. The power of plant tag was split between them and other green tags. Science is I think still quite universal.

  • @fortunastreet
    @fortunastreet 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Forgot to mention the main reason why you would care about venus tags: Venusophile.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      True, that award definitely makes the tag more valueable, you're absolutely right. Probably could've bumped it into B tier then...

  • @powertothemeeple1410
    @powertothemeeple1410 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what is the best fan mad expansion that you suggest? (with the least hate cards); TM is our favorite game of all time but after hundredth of plays, we need more cards to spice up a bit the gameplay; can you recommend a fan made expansion that has the least hate cards, from etsy , but we are afraid that the back of the cards would be a bit different (btw we love your analysis and your channel)

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks, I'm glad you enjoy the content and thanks for the support! I actually own very little fan-made content. I bought a map randomization expansion that basically consists of different map pieces that you can slide together, an expansion that let's you randomize milestones and awards (which we will get with Prelude 2 anyways) and a set of fan made preludes. These preludes actually have a different back, but I don't think that matters that much in comparison to project cards having a different back. So I actually own no expansion that adds new project cards, but my advice would be to sleeve the cards with card sleeves that are not look-through on the back. Then you cannot distinguish fan made cards from real ones no matter how they look. And in terms of having played fan-made content - I can only speak about High Orbit which I have played maybe two times on Tabletop Simulator - definitely well made and interesting although a bit unbalanced.

  • @cw7665
    @cw7665 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The devs are really so bad, they ruined one of the best board games with terrible interface, bugs, horrible realization and drop outs

  • @peterleise7044
    @peterleise7044 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Daaaamn Robinsons Industries insaneee Greetings P. Sprudelman

  • @lijstthuispiano
    @lijstthuispiano 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for all the games, I really enjoy your content. Would it be possible to move yourself just slightly to the left? I cannot see which round it is 😂

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for the support! And the webcam thing: I'll fix that in future streams! Thanks for letting me know :) (just know that the next few gameplay vids are already prerecorded so if you're only watching on TH-cam it will take a while until it's changed :D )

  • @lingyeung1007
    @lingyeung1007 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hello. Commenting on an older post but i like watching some of these older videos. I agree with luiz. Supply drop is such a toptier prelude. You do possibly lose the 3 plants, but of course sometimes you dont. While aquifer is a great prelude, i do think its actually a mistake to pick this one. The crazy thing is how huge asteroid is not considered. Huge Asteroid is pound for pound up there with unmi contractor for best (non-promo) prelude. I think its a +30mc card (if we use donation as thr standard 21mc metric) which is comparable to unmi. (I do value heat TR higher than vanilla TR for its quality of taking it away from players) However, the hand is very multidimensional (in the very best of ways since its a very very good hand). You can just go lb for lb and pick hiuge asteroid. I dont think its wrong. I think this is a solid and respectable plan. Or you can fully dedicate to engine and pick supply drop. This is what i would have gone with. With drop, you are doing your best to extend the game as long as possible by not contributing to the terraforming track which is a fantastic plan with luna. You know you will be drawing 4 or 5 additional cards on gen1 which is insane and the extra $ rolling over the gen2 will help you buy cards and get planner should you actually need it. Now if you get a godsend and draw alloys off the first 3/4 cards, you are living the dream. The worst of the 3 plans is, respectfully, aquifer turbines. This pick communicates you are hedging. You did one terrafoming and now have 2 energy per gen rolling over to heat. Say what you want about this pick being flexible and allowing you to pivot but i hate this plan. I dont think turbine is a bad prelude, it too is probably a top5 prelude so we are really just picking hairs right now. Luna with card draw is already in a comfortable spot to pivot in multiple direction and the planner milestone is probably locked up. But going 3rd also means you could have gotten punished on the ocean spot. You could also have gotten tapped (such a high % vs strong players). But the kicker is you DIDNT pick GHG factories which, to me, is baffling since you ended gen1 with 5mc. I guess you kinda sorta wanted to be engine so you dont think it was correct to pick GHG…but then, why not pick supply drop? Also i think greenhouse should have been considered (if you picked supply) bc well, its a 3 player game on tharsis and you are basically going for card points which hopefully forces your opponent into a ground game. I would think thats reason enough to pick greenhouse for the later game greenery and possibly opens the option of finishing the game 1 gen faster based on your whim should you want it. Edit: just finished watching. I believe you either had a miner or scientist fund at the end for max points. Or you can place pro valley for 2mc cheaper and its 2pts bc of eco-zone. This cost you 1 pt in the end bc you had to put the 2nd last greenery on purple's city. And yes you def could have ended last gen still able to fund and win but probably 5-6pts.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I appreciate the discussion points! I absolutely agree to you that Supply Drop would have been the superior pick to Turbines here. I don't need to rush Planner and Point Luna really lacks starting capital so the MC differential between those two preludes is even more prevalent. Huge Asteroid is a top tier prelude for sure, but I think with this start it's less great, since the alternatives are so great. Allied Banks is enhanced because of PL and Supply Drop is just what we need as one of the poorest corps in the game. I was a little weaker as a player back then, so my inability to see Supply Drop as the right pick was just a straight up misplay.

  • @danielmdubois
    @danielmdubois 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @17:40 I would keep Eos Chasma as a high-value steel dump.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes it's pretty good but I was pretty cash poor and had AI Central, so I don't think I really needed it.

  • @canceledlogic7656
    @canceledlogic7656 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    More than the cost, requiring you to have production and someone else to have the same production made the base game cards too situational unless you wanted to play them immediately. I prefer the new one

    • @canceledlogic7656
      @canceledlogic7656 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think the fantasia corporation is supposed to tempt people to be the 3$ by offering you a mid card

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, the fact that it doesn't require you to have steel prod definitely helps making the card more playable!

  • @jeffreyculbert2093
    @jeffreyculbert2093 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Definitely Tharsis hand here, Forest and your choice of Empire or Mining (mining seems better but both are playable) keep Imm city, med lab, robo, Mangrove, alloys, biomas, Nitro Moss, business contacts, and even space mirrors. Open with Forest for plant and ti in west, Tharsis city for 2 plants west of Noctis, drop space mirrors, activate mirrors and drop imm city in east or south for river rebates and prioritize a ground game plan looking for Gardner/Builder/Mayor/landlord. Robinson here feels a lot weaker and much much slower. Should be 100 in 10 for Tharsis here, maybe 110 if draws are nice.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Could've definitely gone for Tharsis yeah. The line sounds reasonable, I think I was just afraid of using Space Mirrors :D

  • @tomaszvexling
    @tomaszvexling 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You've forgotten Sulphur Eating Bacteria for Enceladus. Great combo.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Clearly one of the best outlets for Enceladus yes!

  • @yeekasoose
    @yeekasoose 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    With Fuyuki Conglomerate, Ecology Experts and Head Start, you could play a card and take two additional actions before the first turn. It could be a rare instance where it's worthwhile to use EE to play a card that doesn't have global requirements.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Actually, that's a very interesting idea. I haven't found too many instances where Head Start is that amazing, but for Fuyuki Conglomerate, it could be a great way to set you up economically!

  • @deinfathr
    @deinfathr 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    mailware is complete broken. this should cost like 15 or give negative vp

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah it's way too strong 😅

  • @user-nq9ee6vh9d
    @user-nq9ee6vh9d 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't think you need to have your marker on Commercial district. The card gives points for cities next to the special tile. It does not require your marker to be on the tile. Ecology expert can play IO mining, Mohole Area, or any production card for Fuyuki Conglomerate. (Not saying it would be great value, just that it is possible.)

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah, for some reason I thought you could only play cards with global requirements, but a quick rules check proved me wrong. I mean you still get two useful tags and a plant prod out of the prelude, but still...Bad value.

  • @manfrombc5162
    @manfrombc5162 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Insatiable Earthquake is particularly interesting because if you only have 1 tile on Mars you can use it to remove the cube and teleport elsewhere on the map too.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      True! Didn't think about that...that's a very niche but useful strategy!

  • @illumina91
    @illumina91 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pluton is better the Luna but both are S tier for sure

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree that Pluto is better. It's gamechanging as it grants everyone access to card draw at all times... that changes the value of cards and the flow of the game dramatically

    • @tomaszvexling
      @tomaszvexling 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@marsexpert4276Have you changed anything else in the order inside the tiers?

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@tomaszvexling I didn't really order the colonies within the tiers, but with regards to Pluto, I even said during the video that I think it's better than Pluto :D And no, atm I think this tier list still reflects my opinion on the strength of the colonies perfectly!

    • @tomaszvexling
      @tomaszvexling 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marsexpert4276 Ok. But how would you order the colony tiles in the tiers?

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tomaszvexling Maybe like this (but don't consider this set in stone): 1. Pluto 2. Luna 3. Ceres 4. Triton 5. Miranda 6. Titan 7. Callisto 8. Ganymede 9. Enceladus 10. Europa 11. Io

  • @illumina91
    @illumina91 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    triton vs ceres ? clearly wrong here loll , but you play 1v1 , when i play its 3-4-5 players

  • @ivanzovko4124
    @ivanzovko4124 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You were worried about TG for the benefactor, but forgot you threw it away from your starting hand xD

  • @pauliusmatonis1492
    @pauliusmatonis1492 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As always come here to point out some funny mistakes from recent stream:D Credicore end game you were wondering if you can place a city and in stead placed 1 point greenery thinking you lack 2 mc. I have 1 word : ROVERS :D You had enought. And pets math I didn't see. But potentially 3pt mistake :D

    • @pauliusmatonis1492
      @pauliusmatonis1492 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      oh you just figured it out lol :D Too late ofc :D

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pauliusmatonis1492 Yeah and I only figured it out because my opponent played a city :D sometimes man...

    • @jeffreyculbert2093
      @jeffreyculbert2093 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @pauliusmantonis1492 That SP ocean with 7 oceans while being 3 heat bumps from free ocean with one heat bump from heat on hand too and heat being the primary factor to for closing out the game… le oof. Was a sloppy one, for sure. Seen plenty of cleaner MarsExpert matches, seems like a bit of an off game this time to me.

  • @jeffreyculbert2093
    @jeffreyculbert2093 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like Ex Forest in east for ti, Dome Farming, GHG, Psychro, Adapt Tech, BPD for ti, play GHG, play Psychro, use Psychro here. Adapt Tech seems ok as a spec when we have Forest plants coming, NRA is always live from Gen 2 on as an out, you have good heat control and pick up 2 more steel prod so you’ve got 8 floating and you go into Gen 2 looking for Outpost, Restricted Area, Mars U, Arctic Algae, Viral, and assorted tiles with ocean events as your line of play here. You’re well positioned for anything you top deck and have good scoring in hand fighting for Terraformer, Gardner, Builder. CSM is totally fine with the same set up, though no building tags worth keeping is a sad sight to see. This feels like the right line of play here.

    • @jeffreyculbert2093
      @jeffreyculbert2093 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Gen 2 draft hits imp hydro. Feels really punishing not taking Dome and instead taking allies already, Gen 3 ocean convert and the game already feels pretty won if opponent doesn’t drop global discounts or Econ plus per turn card draw by the end of Gen 3 in a quick race.

    • @jeffreyculbert2093
      @jeffreyculbert2093 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hard punished further in Gen 3 draft. Only buy imp hydro and stockpile Gen 2, open and fp Nitro Moss, wheel great dam, get passed algae, open on imp hydro convert for 2 plants, play nitro, play adapt tech, play algae with Psychro, great damn is free if it can be afforded. You have control over all tracks, a huge lead in points, Gardner locked, terraforming incoming, a legit 8 fund of landlord, and a 100 in 9 gens or 115-120 in 10 line of play here.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah Dome Farming over Allied Banks seems obvious and I don't know why I kept Worms...weird.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jeffreyculbert2093 yes, Dome would have been much much better.

    • @jeffreyculbert2093
      @jeffreyculbert2093 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just take your time in the openers more. Since there’s no draft for it on Steam it’s the most critical point of the game and heavily influences the outcomes. Don’t be in a rush, work through all the options, understand which lines are aiming to do what and have a good feel for the timing of when plays will be made in those lines and THEN settle on what you’re going to open on. This might be the area of your game that needs the most work, not rushing your opening choices and finding the optimal set up in blind since you’ll have no information about opponent’s set up without draft mode.

  • @user-nq9ee6vh9d
    @user-nq9ee6vh9d 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We can't see generation because of you web cam. :C 54:50 It was only 7 temperature steps (you have 10 heat units). You also need one more ocean (one is bonus). So it is 7*14 + 18 = 116MC. You had 91 MC + 5 cards that is 96MC. If you did not fund the award, you would have had enough money to end. I don't think there is a reason for your opponent to fund for 20, because he has 26 cards at the end of the game. Remember it is not 10 points for 20MC, but 10 points for 40MC. You really need the mod for counting points. It is great for making decisions around ending the game. You would see that you are absolutely winning and didn't have to do any non-terraforming in few last gens.

    • @jeffreyculbert2093
      @jeffreyculbert2093 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It’s a good habit to play without the score tracker from time to time so you learn to count and calculate without mod assistance that you won’t have in an IRL tournament. Score tracker is nice and all, but over reliance on it can become a crutch. There’s really no need for it, though it is a nifty and convenient feature.

    • @marsexpert4276
      @marsexpert4276 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A lot of good points! Yes, I can not do math and routinely do missplays because of that. Yes, I sometimes overvalue awards in the end and this was a case of that - the card count alone should have been an argument not to worry about it. And yes, I need the score mod!