Bonus Drive Thru: Jim Cornette on If Kayfabe Could Exist In The Internet Era
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one change would make a HUGE difference: wrestlers talking about WINNING instead of PERFORMING. Just that 1 change and in 6 months a while promotion would feel far more serious.
Yeah Yeah was
Exactly wrestlers don’t talk in depth about it like it’s a sport
Japan still has kayfabe hence why legit press still cover wrestling in Japan
Hence I consider it the most legit. I just wish it was more available outside Japan. I scrape and scramble everytime I find matches from Japan.
Mexico still has kayfabe? isnt magazine sales still a big deal there? Problem with WWE and the American scene is they believe to be part of "hollywood". So all the fault for kayfabe being dead is on WWE and TNA telling the fans that its fake. And when a company produces a long story that doesn't payoff or make sense.....anybody with a brain will say "its fake". Use logical booking and talent that KNOW what they are doing and this would not be a problem. STOP pretending to be "general hospital" or "Marvel comics" and this would not be a problem.
at the end of the day blame WWE Creative.
mexico is very diffrent beast cuase the mask are so impoatnat in wrestling hell book wise i and in the fans eyes luchas matches are prostgous that title matches ajdaoot of the hair or mask matches get better reactions than title matches that shocking when you conider the mexcin nation ttiles are in the lonest acative bets in the world goign back ot 1933
A big part of it too is that many of the Puroresu wrestlers are/were martial artists (think of the guys trained by Billy Robinson and the British catch wrestlers and then their trainees and so on) and would do both MMA/martial arts exhibitions and contests and pro wrestling. So the lines were always blurred. That combined with how they present most Pro Wrestling there (it's a known work but the guys are seen as legit, as many are, and the actual exhibition is appreciated for the skill, technique and athleticism I believe) means it retains a lot of 'kayfabe' albeit atleast somewhat differently to the West.
This could definitely be achieved in the West. So could different forms of kayfabe if it was portrayed as a contest similar to Pancrase or worked shoots. Another possibility would be to forget kayfabe and market it more as to what it is, an athletic artform based around theatre and martial arts(i.e catch wrestling primarily and then the other forms of wrestling and martial arts aswell) and have it be appreciated for what it is. I think we're getting close to that now with a lot of the fans anyway, who appreciate the work that goes into it genuinely, and the actual skill of the performers for what they are actually doing as to what they are portrayed as.
So you could scrap the idea it's an actual contest and stress the cooperative athleticism and spectacle, or do it more akin to worked shoots or even exhibitions. There's a variety of possibilities that could be explored.
@Jeremy Stillwell in the day MMA also took his place in a ring watch promotion similar to Pride or RINGS
Love the art of Magic comparison! Both wrestling (not sports entertainment) and magic are two beautiful art forms.
You can get a degree of it back, but it's too late for old school Kayfabe.
Everyone thinks they are a booker now. They don't react to a baby face getting a big win, they praise the office for the booking. They don't put heat on the heel because he fucked the baby face, they get mad at the office for the booking.
People can't just be fans of the product. They have to be fanatics and know every fucking detail of who what where when why how.
Exactly. When Sputnik Monroe looked at the audience in Memphis and saw an overflowing black section and a half full white section, he told the black fans to start integrating and sitting in the white section.
Only a heel, whom the fans had no suspicion that he might be a mouthpiece for the promoter, could have made that happen.
I love the "Impact or Global or TNA or whatever they're calling themselves this week."
I figured it out in the mid-to-late eighties with the VCR being able to pause and Rewind and I could tell they were missing with the punches. I fourteen at the time. But some matches I thought were real LOL
Dude, you had to watch the punches? Who would let someone set up a frankensteiner from the top turnbuckle? Who would stand their and let someone do a powerbomb on them? Who would lay in the middle of the ring and let you climb the ropes, leap through the air, and drop a elbow on them? This just boggles my mind.
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Steiner Brothers didn't come out till 89 in WCW.... I was talking about the early 80s 82 83.
"If you present the show and treat it seriously instead of like the fucking Muppet show, people will treat it seriously as well."
Somebody should tattoo this backwards on Vince's forehead so he has to read it every time he looks in the mirror.
Greg Hood Ironically? The Muppets have kayfabe of their own. The puppets are always treated like they're real performers in public even when Cookie Monster is on live at the Emmy's and you can see David Rudman's lips moving behind him.
And now, five years later, someone needs to tattoo it on Tony Khan.
A way I can see it going back to the way it used to be, someone like Cornette should find MMA athletes that want to wrestle and start a promotion That's only for them. They wouldn't be scared to take stiff shots and could introduce more MMA maneuvers to wrestling fans.
A similar idea happened with RINGS. It was a worked shoot but most of the people in that promotion were MMA fighters.
Same with Pancrase albeit it was a mix. Also +Kotuh then introducing defense would be a much better idea. I mean, you could have it where they target limbs more to avoid head and back injuries, adding defense and blocking alone would make wrestling better, I think.
@@TheTaterTotP80 Pancrase still exist
Hell no! Keep mma away from rasslin!
It can never go back to the way it was because everyone knows now. We know the terms heat, selling, a work, a shoot. Back in the territory days before the internet became king the business was protected. The fans thought it was real.
Around 2002-2003 after the name change, I believe it was Vibe published an article called "is hip-hop the new WWF?" well that kind of reflects something I've noticed, something gets red hot for a while, everyone is suddenly into it, and then it dies off for the next big trend. I think the low viewing of wrestling could be a case of that as well and probably people not being impressed with the modern product. The mass audience is always fickle, I don't see why pro-wrestling wouldn't fall victim to trend jumping as any other trend. That's what it is to the mass audience.
Hip hop and WWE are both shit.
But wrestling definitely isn't a trend. It's been a huge for atleast 200+ years. Hip Hop is basically just poetry too, so that has too.
So listening to music takes over watching TV?? This is completely illogical lmao how could you even come to this conclusion??
Certain degrees of Kayfabe being dead, maybe. But if you give the people something they can believe in, that will do wonders for a product. Everybody goes into a movie theater knowing that it’s actors doing their thing to make a movie. If the movie is good though, people can immerse themselves into it. Same thing with wrestling.
Stone Cold was a character the fans could believe in.
Until he turned, and shared a beer with Vince, which killed the territory.
It could if people would shut up. The problem with secrets is that psychologically somebody wants to tell.
Well, that's the whole point; in a world where you can't have secrets and exposure at the same time, you can't have what pro wrestling used to be.
But it also doesn't have to be; the problem with older dudes running the business is that they try to solve problems the way they would have back in the day, and you can't do that twenty or thirty years later. Instead, they need to work real life into the storylines; make the Brock Lesner type who's destroying everyone get upset on the mat by a super technical wrestler, and have a training storyline where he learns how to actually wrestle and become a more complete entertainer. Give a look into the rehab of a guy who gets hurt, get people invested into them through their return. Give more personality to the wrestlers instead of relying completely on their gimmicks, like how Asuka's nuts but respects someone who can give her an actual challenge. There are a lot of ways to get people over and maintain their usability.
This is all stuff that shows up in real sports -- albeit without being worked -- and people get invested. It doesn't need to be completely fabricated, or some reality TV schlock; let some shit develop organically.
Again, though, it's all unlikely to happen with the old guard running the show. A new landscape needs new ideas.
Ok, so Jim KNOWS the toothpaste not only is out of the tube but was metaphorically leaking already. This at least makes some sense. I gotta start thinking of it like that magician metaphor.
I really wish Jim would get over the death of Kayfabe. Wrestling survived and evolved, Kayfabe was on borrowed time all along. Anyone with half a brain back in the day could watch afew matches and tell it was a lie. It was scriped, an act, a physical story being told by two people COOPERATIVELY. Who the hell would let someone place them on the top rope/turnbuckle and wait while they set up a DDT? Just let go, Jim...advance and innovate.
Evolve into what exactly wrestling is not popular like it used to be when I watch a e w WWE even NXT sometimes I get embarrassed when WCW and ECW went out of business it killed the business those loyal fans are not around anymore most of today's wrestlers suck they complained they b**** they whine there are no stars we don't have austin rock HHH undertaker kurt angle sting lex luger the NWO bret and Micheals it's too scripted is to clean it's too corporatethere are less people watching wrestling today then there was 15 years ago people keep talking about how wrestling was popular in the 90s and the attitude era wrestling was popular in the 80s and the 70s and in the sixties as well nobody talks that and not to mention all the political correctness
"Ryan Dunn" - lol
I laughed at that as well coz that's my son's name.....and no I didn't name him after Dunn from jackass
Several things came together to kill the territories.
1) cable tv
Without cable tv, local promoters had a monopoly in their territory. Fans saw their promotion, and that was it. After cable, fans could see other promotions and compare.
2) Vince’ national expansion.
But if Vince didn’t, some other promoter would have. Cable made it too tempting to not expand.
3) ECW
“We broke all the rules, then we realized why there were rules.”
4) UFC
Fans growing up in the territory days saw boxing and kayfabe wrestling. But the UFC showed fans what a real grappling contest looked like, and it was nothing like pro wrestling.
5) the national monopoly.
With only one promotion and one team of writers it gets stale. “How can I miss you if you won’t go away?”
It’s the same thing that tv did to vaudeville. George Burns was asked about it “it’ll never be as good, because there’s no place to be bad.” Meaning there wasn’t any chance to spend ten years in front of small audiences figuring out what works and (more importantly what doesn’t).
All you have now is a remnant of the glory days of 35-50 years ago.
UFC is fixed, NFL, nba, just like wrestling... Also your smart Jeff t, cable did kill the territories, I was a Cwf guy myself, ecw....we did go too far,lol hell ppl thought we were real so we couldn't get a ppv deal... What promoter you feel would have monopolized if Vince didn't? Herb abrams? Ted Turner? The con erichs? There are many other promoters I'm missing but I wonder who could have really did what Vince did though he didn't do it on his own🤷🏾♂️
Also not true, most of the works are so-called glory days grappling looked like shite cyase they were fpt-ball players and not Catch wrestlers judoka look at people like Billy Robinson oor anybody who came of the snakepit in wigan there grappling skill were awesome cause the coach there was Hooker call Billy reily
@@chrisiverson5648 Any proof UFC is fixed, Alex Jones?
@@senseisama3974: fixed like wwe bruh..
It’s like Santa. Once you know, you know.
broken Matt hardy is the perfect example of kayfabe still working they just have to commit 100% because as sure as u think u might be that a person isn't like that ur never really that sure ur like in Matt's case you've kind of been forced to play alongbecause he won't break kayfabe
to mo the broken stuff took me out of it all im sorry but i could not belive it so its bad kayfabe
Mike Perry
Exactly, Mike. Wrestling has to advance and evolve. You cant say that around here though, because the dullards that want to agree with EVERYTHING Jim says will get butthurt. Jim wishes the world never progressed beyond 1984. Any sort of innovation gets straight hatred. I love Jim, but he is wrong on this matter. Typical old man bullshit.
They'd need several shoot spots a match + eliminating the way social media is being used.
Start with people booing heels and cheering baby faces, instead of just cheering the match in general.
Most people didn't suspect it was real, they KNEW it. Anyone with an IQ above 80 knew it. Still, he is right to a large extent that the wrestlers taking the show seriously allowed you to get lost in the show. Also, part of the enjoyment of the show was knowing that there were some rubes in the audience who thought it was legit.
Back in the day many didn't know it wasn't legit, many did know. It just depended on the individual and so on and what they were looking for in the show. Saying they had sub-80 IQs is just insulting and offensive to everyone, though.
Either way, you can say it's like when a good movie pulls you in and you genuinely react and are in suspense and anticipation for what happens next. You always knew it wasn't real, it's a movie, but it suspends your disbelief for you and you are entirely engaged.
Obviously it's too late to go back now. But I think the real question would be that even if the stuff had never been explained or exposed, if kayfabe could still exist in the internet era.
I tend to think no. People have talked about it being fake for years (case in point, the Wild Red Berry episode). One of the great giveaways of this is that boxers can only fight a couple of times a year, but wrestlers can do hundreds. Not everybody would think of that on their own. But in the internet age, where anyone can talk to anyone, the idea is going to circulate.
Also, remember, that wrestlers have to be in character every time they're in public view. Remember the stink when Duggan and the Sheik were stopped by the cops in the same car when they were supposed to be enemies. Nowadays, cameras are even more pervasive. Back in the old days, people like Gracie Allen and Harpo Marx could keep the public from ever seeing their true selves, but these days it would be impossible.
Berry, incidentally, did a superb job of toning it down enough to perform on the show without breaking character.
Convincing people it is real is off the table . Returning wrestling to a clised fraternity is possible , bringing believeable simulated combat is possible , and protecting the business is possible .
But if you think you can immediately compete with WWE for their fans by making a product so vastly different you will fail
Cornette is right. What is the point of running a Indy show in 2018. There's no money in it. That was was the whole point of the business was to work a crowd and sell your craft. Now it's about 20 or 30 smarks at a local Indy show. It's not even a business anymore. The only ones that are making a good living in the business is WWE's main roster. Besides them, former wwe workers are making money at local shows. So 5 or 6 guys besides the main roster.
Well magic is actually entertaining. Even though a pro wrestler must be in peak physical condition to perform their craft the skill to perform magic and the amount of production that goes into it is not even comparable.
using that analogy. Penn & Teller are the best Illusion acts in the business! Everything they do is believable they skill at slight of hand is top tier. Give me that instead of pushing somebody from "X factor" or "America Got Talent" who are nothing but amateurs.....that "look good on tv"
Back in the Kayfabe days, whoever held the championship was a credible champion. Now really, who could beat Brock Lesnar ?
I wish they had internet back in the 80's.Could have found out much sooner about some of the obsecure indies & purchased tapes & read about who wrestled there
Wow, Bret near an AOL symbol lol
Matthew P. 1997
@@rexsexson5349 no this photo is from 1995
Why in the world is Bret Hart’s shirt buttoned down so low. I can see what he is trying for, just by looking at that woman’s face. But Bret come on, you’re married.
I’m glad I saw this video, I was about to write in this question haha
This question is stupid because the answer is obviously yes, the problem is that the wrestler will have to purge themselves off the internet before they create a character.
Why is Bret Hart dressed like Luke Duke?
Bret was the man...👍🏾....sad how it ended 😔
@@chrisiverson5648 Goldberg sucked, but I wish Bret would have used more creative influence in WCW, maybe he wouldn't have had to fight him
@@BeeHatGuy: don't we all friend.... Don't we all....😢
Never noticed how much Bret looked like an 80s B-movie action star until now. He could've been Samurai Cop in another universe.
Puerto Rico still maintains Kayfabe, but the younger fans here prefer WWE.
WWEkids y'all.
Yaileen Matias Puerto Rico is a dead land for WRESTLING, there broke and murderers.
Yes. I knew it was a work when I was a teenager in the 90s. Still got heat with me. It was great.
I have alluded to this in my previous comments years ago in another video where I drew a comparison between politics and pro wrestling..... Because of the internet, kayfabe is breaking down in Washington D.C., that is why they are so desperate to regulate speech.... The are afraid... Jim Cornette is a democrat, I am a Republican, but in all honesty, the politicians view Jim and I in the exact same manner that wrestling insiders viewed the fans in the 70's.... We are all "marks". The DO NOT want their version of kayfabe to break down... The same progressive liberals who 20 years ago told us all that we had to respect the first amendment rights of Larry Flint are now the same people who argue that the comment that I have just posted is dangerous and should be removed. They are scared to death.
People knew that wrestling was fake during the Attitude Era. That disproves the idea that there's no market once the cat is out of the bag. Also, how exactly is wrestling different from from a half-choreographed, half-impromptu simulated fight scene between two or more fictional characters? The magician comparison doesn't work, because the magician isn't really playing a character in order to tell a story.
The Attitude Era had a lot of hot shotting dangerous spots, though. Basically look at what Mick Foley did. That had people invested because he was literally falling from Cells and getting blasted in the head with Chairs etc. That's a pretty bad business model though for longevity and not something you'd want to put people through.
This was a good one.👍👍👍👍
grew up watching it in the early 80's. I never thought it was real. grew up watching boxing too. those guys got broken noses, cuts and bruises from punches. wrestlers didn't and they got "hit" a lot more times. They might have "presented" it as real when it came to commentary and promos, but not in the ring. not to mention those guys were not as good at blading as they thought they were.
Actually, listening to this is depressing. I hadn't thought about it from this point of view and it explains why I don't really enjoy it as much as I could. I love NXT but the second I became a little busy and missed a couple of episodes, I haven't felt the desire to catch up. It's kind of sad.
Um, magic was exposed in detail back in the late 90s. Look up a fella by the name of Val Valentino, AKA The Masked Magician.
There were four episodes of "Breaking the Magician's Code" over two years, and the final episode, where Valentino unmasked himself, drew 14.7 million viewers.
The problem with wrestling isn't that PWG exists. It's that the WWE doesn't give a fuck to try to make compelling product. Without a WCW to keep them in check, WWE has been running on cruise control, content to make money from other endeavors as the the audience declines. Thankfully, Impact is on the road to recovery and RoH, despite Sinclair's unwillingness to put money into the product, are growing.
Will it ever be another run like the territories, just like there will never be a TV show that pulls the numbers Dallas pulled in its prime, because the audience has become fragmented, thanks to there being hundreds of channels on TV and lots more options for people's time. However, wrestling can be more broadly successful if the grassroots efforts continue to bear fruit and Anthem can steer Impact in the right direction in the coming years.
I grew up in small Georgia town in the 70's...the epitome of mark country in the territory days. However, I remember hearing as far back as elementary school that wrestling was "fake." I don't why this was common knowledge on my playground, but it was. But the business took itself seriously enough that it didn't matter. The shows were just as compelling as the action movies of the day, if not more so. When you went to see a Bruce Lee movie back then you knew Bruce would beat all the bad guys and prevail. With wrestling you didn't have even that much foreknowledge, which made it more compelling to me. It didn't matter if it was worked.
I find wrestling mostly unwatchable today because WWE and AEW treat kayfabe like a complete joke. I don't have to think the business is a legit sport to enjoy it, but I do need to maintain suspension of disbelief, and for that I need kayfabe. And I know I'm not the only one.
I think the old practice in Memphis where they'd run the EXACT SAME SHOW in Memphis on Monday, then Louisville on tuesday, then Evansville (IN) on wednesday, every week, INCLUDING title changes, was just as damaging to kayfabe as anything being done now, because there's only a few hundred miles between those 3 cities, and even though the internet was a thing then, as Mick Foley described in HAVE A NICE DAY!, the fans KNEW about that practice. I doubt Jim would ever cop to that being bad for kayfabe because it's part of the old system that he refuses to criticize, and as much as I love Corney, he's wrong about a lot of stuff, and to try to say that running the same show on 3 consecutive days, every week, where the same things happen in each town, including title changes, in cities separated by only a few hundred miles, FOR YEARS ON END was not bad for kayfabe? That's just wrong.
If Broadway can survive, wrestling will survive :)
Kayfabe is still alive and living as deliberately blending truth with false information.
Mr. Cornette never saw the series Behind the Curtain revealing magics biggest kept secrets
#stuntgranny
Did Copperfield really make the Statue of liberty disappear? I don't think so. Magic is what wrestling was. Now it's so staged and it makes the wrestlers look stupid. Even in AEW you will see 10 different finishing moves in a match and they don't get a win, it gets old. I'd love to see a match when the finish is realistic!
Ryan Dunn called in eh?
Would CM Punk signing with Jeff Jarrett, start a new interest in wrestling? Or is it a circus side show? That comes to town once a while people find fun. I see CM Punk and Daniel Bryan showing real WWE distain
Watching jim powers lose to doink the clown woke me up to it's a work!
2:00 Penn and Tellar.
Indeed.
Penn and Teller are a budding magician's magician. Damn good at their craft, but they don't tell you all they know. They have secrets too.
It is all presentation . We knew wrestling was a work forever . It was just really cognicent to not take you out of the moment .
CM Punk dropping the pipe bomb was one as well!
this has nothing to do with this video,but Brian,love all your podcasts, and am so glad you are doing Boling poscast,just listened to episode 2,please talk to Kenny about not having Maya on the show ever. You and bolin and to a lesser degree Chris are entertaining as shit,but Maya is to a lesser degree the Alice Radley of the New Bolin Alley. you do not want any degree of Alice Radley on any show you do. thanks for all your hard work
Agreed about Maya. She is fucking horrible. Shut her up!
Breaking the magicians code?
Wait .... The Muppet Show isn't real? Da fuq?
I'm still trying to figure it out I'm confused. if its not real then why were the muppet actors on wwe??? Kermit could really pop a number!
I don't understand why Jim's so deadset on keeping a secret that's been out for 30+ years, especially when he himself reveals how so much shit is done.
As long as people can stop running their mouths
He's not really answering the question. He seems to forget about every cell phone having a camera, and about youtube and facebook and twitter. Either he forgets or he just wants to rant about one topic and do his thing without going into detail.
Social media
Ryan Dunn??? Thought he was dead?
He's right again, I was watching some Criss Angel last, still don't know how he does most of that shit and neither does the rest of the Internet.
EVERY TIME JIM DOES ONE OF THESE PODCASTS HE IS EXPOSING THE BUSINESS. HE IS DOING THE EXACT THING HE SAYS HE HATES.
How old is this? Question from Ryan dunn from LA? I know he is dead but is the old enough to be the Ryan dunn. Ban margeras friend?
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Sad but true.
I want a Dick the Bruiser plush toy
Dick flips, invisible hand grenades, blow up dolls, invisible men... For me, wrestling was fake in '94 with Undertaker ascending into the air. As great as the undertaker gimmick was, it was just as guilty at destroying kayfabe as Montreal or the 'curtain call'. I mean at the point, you have to be dumb as a post to think that it's any form of real competition, when a dude is thrown into a casket, delivers an impromptu promo and then ascends into the rafters....
The genie also ascended into the rafters...
WCW in 1991 with Robocop showing up is just as bad... Fictitious cyborg cop arrives at ringside to tear a 'solid' cage door off of its hinges? I could go on, but I think that it's safe to say that kayfabe was dead before the end of the 80's and the people that still believed it was real, were in denial. XD
I am actually ok with Kayfabe not coming back. The investment in storylines and character arcs like the Undertaker, or even having a slight separation between the more gimmick performers and the more traditional physical wrestling with some manufacturered drama between wrestlers could be engaging in the modern era especially with social media
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Cornette still lives by the old days of the audience being conned or marks. The audience suspends disbelief for every form of entertainment and the audience respects the art form more now than they did in the past when the product insulted the intelligence of it's audience.
I think kayfabe is definitely gone. Unless it totally disappeared for a generation and came back repackaged and promoted as legitimate, and was performed stiff, then I don't see how real kayfabe could ever come back.
So, wrestling needs to rethink and start respecting the art again. Put on well executed matches between talent who can actually go. Stop putting on matches that are totally fantasy. If you have a hard core match, then get colour or don't bother. Play to the marks who are looking for good booking and execution of the product and I think that could go a long way in the age of everyone being in the know.
Lol. If you thought for one second at ANY point that wrestling was real then you must have been in special ed classes in school.
JIM APPARENTLY NEVER SAW THE MAGIC SERIES FROM YEARS AGO OF THE MAGICIAN WHO EXPOSED THE BUSINESS. JIM YOU LIVE IN A CAVE APPARENTLY.
I love Cornette, but how does he justify criticizing wrestlers for breaking kayfabe while doing two shoot podcasts?
jewggerz because people already know it’s scripted, it’s not like he was doing these podcasts 20 years ago when maintaining kayfabe was important
Cornette basically admits here that kayfabe is a social ritual where one willingly suspends disbelief and chooses to pretend that a contest with a pre-determined ending is real, helped along by a certain sense of pageantry. Hence the "it's still real to me!" guy: someone who feels out of place in the "backstage" era of pro wrestling when his fandom was shaped by the territory "willing suspension of disbelief" days.
Magic secrets revealed was a show around the time they showed Wrestling secrets revealed. Both lamed but did expose some magic. But Jim did say authorized by the magician, so yeah I guess he's kinda right.
Actually not, because the dude that produced Magic's greatest secret's finally revealed was indeed a magician. Val Valentino. 😏👉
If the guys would take it more seriously, it would be alot better. Why do people buy into Lesnar? Why is he such a box office attraction? Because even though they know wrestling is fake, people can still believe _Lesnar_ is real.
The Little Shaman Healing Lesnar is only believable at times because he legitimately is a stiff worker. He intentionally gets hard way colour on his opponents, so it looks somewhat real. You couldn't do that in every match though, or you risk talent getting concussions every other week.
Tbh I think wrestlers need to stop working so much anyway, I mean the schedule. Working 4+ shows or anything near that a week is fucking insane and damaging and unecessary. Doing larger events twice once a week at most or so would be perfect, I'd have thought.
It means you can have stiffer and more intense matches, get more time to recover atleast somewhat and less saturation of the content.