Me too. Jump scares are for Halloween Haunted Houses. Growing unease and that creeping feeling that characters are either losing it or pulling the mask of sanity off are more effective.
When I first saw the following, it was creepy but, parts are now cut out ( @ least 1 part) & it kind of has an unintentionally funny moment. The movie was "The Legend of Hellhouse:" Yes. it had some jump scares but it works instead of annoys. As far as the unintentionally funny moment, all I'll say is watch the cat segment in it.
Gerry Buckets Those “artsy”, pretentious and boring movies are not good at all imo. Just because it’s weird and different doesn't make them good or enjoyable horror movies for me. I dislike that kind of movies almost as much as the fucking jumpscare/cliche/possessed house-doll garbage we get every month.
It might shock you if someone pops a balloon behind you with a pin, but it's much more unnerving to see them holding the pin and nearly pop the balloon then not pop it just holding the pin there.
Yes very true. They are a cheap way of getting you scared without any actual effort, when done badly. Like, not to get biased, big bang theory just having laugh tracks over everything so you get the feeling that it is actually funny.
The problem is not even that. Is how sloppily the movies introduce the jumpscare. A good jumpscare just happens, no leading up to it, no musical queue when it happens. That way, when the real thing appears you haven't been "trained" to expect the jumpscare. But most movies nowadays dont even go that far. They just stumble upon themselves and fail to scare anyone older than 5 PS: It is also what the video talked about XD
@@steelsaber54 what he/she is trying to say is that the reason most people watch horror films is just because of the adrenaline rush they get upon seeing the jumpscare and the design of the ghost and how scary it looks, and not the actual plot, sound design, audio visual cues, and just generally the art of horror films.
they don't think that. they make cheap movies cause it's easier and they don't care what audiences like but people are stupid and keep buying modern movies
This is intentional. I’ve watched many horror flicks. The recent films deliberately don’t build the characters. You can’t relate to them and they’re stupid.
The problem for me is that horror movies just aren’t scary anymore. Most of the horror movies today feel more like suspenseful thrillers than actual horror.
@@poett8875 I think the problem is their are just too many of them and all of us probably have watched a lot of these films and now they have become really predictable for us
Chris, you hit the nail on the head when you said that audiences have forgotten what real horror is People need to realize that if a person jumps after a jumpscare happens that doesn't automatically mean it scared them, it was because of the loud noise that it made, it's not genuine fear, it's a bodily reaction that we can't help, similar to how, even if you see it coming, if you hear nails scratching on a chalkboard it's gonna hurt your ears and cause you to clench up, people need to stop confusing real fear with natural human reactions
One movie that scared the hell out of me was "The Ghost and the Darkness". I would call it a horror movie, because man eating lions that hunt purely for sport ARE FUCKING HORRIFYING!!! The jumpscares are built up by the lions constantly evading the traps placed by the engineer and the hunter for hire. No zombies, no mythological lore bullcrap, no vampires, just pure, unadulterated reality.
Ben McDonald jump scares are also a form of psychological release. you can't help but relax after a jump scare. Thats why psychological horror is so good, it slowly increases the fear and mental preassure without letting up.
*Anirudh Viswanathan* along those same lines, many episodes of that crime show "Criminal Minds" scare the hell out of me, because they are actually reiterations of the things that really happen in a world populated with the most terrifying monster of all -the anonymous human predator! Very few horror movies genuinely scare me -but that show often does (or did)! :)
Jumpscares in movies are an equivalent to running up to someone from behind and shouting "BOO!" Yeah, it makes everyone jump, because it's a reflex… it has nothing to do with actual fear
Yeah it happened to me where i was yawning at the conjuring movie while our class played it. Then my classmate from vehind shouted at my back whilep ushing me so i got surprised and he called me a pussy.
Ikr its so shit. They could legit pop up a quick picture of spongebob with an earrape ambulance siren sound out of nowhere and it would have the exact same effect
Misery by Stephen King is one of my favorites horror movies, because it is pure horror. Imagine being injured and kinapped and held hostage by a psychopath that claims to love you or at least care for you. The way the movie builds up tension is like no other movie. It's starts with hope and slowly removes every inch of it throughout the film. Psychological horror at it's bedst if you ask me.
Paul Tomaszewski Thank you. You can do a lot more to the audience if a movie is rated R. Not talking about gore or blood here but more of subject matter. Recently there was a movie about a planned parenthood employee who quit. Do to well...you get the idea. They could have easily made it PG-13 but the wanted to bring home the reality of abortions. Not since The Exorcist has a movie kept me up for countless nights. It is rated R for REAL.
@@anthonypalmer8975 I wish they would let teenagers into R rated movies, then. I love horror but I basically had to sneak in to see IT, which honestly didn't deserve the R rating in my opinion. Yeah, it was pretty scary sometimes, but I didn't think the subject was extremely disturbing.
A jump scare isn't a scare it's a startle. You can have a documentary of animals and suddenly a picture of an ass taking a massive dump with earrape audio. It gives the same reaction. It's startling. Horror movies need to make you paranoid and scared even after the movie is over
I dont think its even startle. Because you expect it. When someone walks in corridor and everything is dark and music is low you know 100% its coming. So its not even surprising. I dont even move or give a damn about it. I just feel violated (mostly ear rape due to sudden change of volume). So instead of jump scare I would say "sudden ear rape". Its simply disgusting, disturbing whatever you wanna call BUT scary. Personally I find the horrors that show dark sides of reality with killers being natural things (like insanity etc.) the most scary. Because only children will believe that there is some Freddy Krueger or Jason Voorhees but if something can actually happen even to me then THATS what I find scary.
Ah, I use that quote all the time. Unfortunately, nowdays people want to have everything explained to them. And if it doesn't it's suddenly a "bad" movie.
Ah, yes. Lovecraft is one of my most favorite author. The Cthulhu Mythos is very interesting and I recommend people read some of his works. I would love to see one of his works adapted to the big screen (like 'At The Mountains of Madness' was supposed to be), but I fear that it will either be done horribly or people just won't get it... Sigh... Anyways. Good quote!
EmanGameplay See but fnaf 1 (EMPHASIS ON 1) is a good indie fun game because it has a very creepy atmosphere and ends in a scare that is pretty frightening. I was pretty spooked the first few times I played it. Now i do think the whole franchise was milked too long. It should have just been fnaf 1 because it was a really good idea. Those animatronics are pretty frightening because it reminds us of those creepy animatronics from chuck e cheese.
George Pearson I mean if the game got more developers yeah it could be a really solid horror game, but you do have to remember its just one guy doing everything. If he got even a small team it could be really good.
Maybe if the movie focuses around a person or group investigating the mystery around the murders instead of the animatronics it could work.But I doubt it will take that route.
EmanGameplay Not really. FNAF has a pretty disturbing backstory. If done right, then the movie could be a great psychological crime detective thriller.
I don't like horror movies but the best horror movies are the kind that make you paranoid. You know the kind- the movies that makes you check in the closet, keep the lights on and makes sure you don't look directly in the mirror
Ciel Caxx yeah, that's why I like the ring, there's no jumpscares (maybe one or 2) and there's lots of tension so you think something will happen but it doesn't then the scariest part happens at the end
i'd argue american psycho isn't really psychological horror. you don't experience dread/terror watching it. it's just a load of gore used to serve a satirical message.
i dislike horror in general, 9/10 are incredibly disappointing and laughably stupid plus i wanna avoid the nightmares but i plucked up the courage to watch the babadook and did not regret, yea it was tricky to get to sleep that night but the film was well worth it and that's the point i think, whatever jonra you stick on a film at the end of the day, did you enjoy it was it a good film, that's what matters, my point is yea i don't like horror movies because i don't understand why people want to be scared but its good to understand the necessity of the feel of the movie to portray the idea, i think a big problem with movie makers is they seem to choose the jonra and the age before the film is made when it should be the opposite the jonra should be determined by the movie. if you pic the jonra first then you will aim it towards that which will take away from the movie.
@@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 Lol God's word ? Dude the bible is written by human's claiming to speak for a god not the other way around. According to the bible sickness and disease are caused by either god or demon's which is incorrect. Epilepsy is said to be demonic possession as well. Anyway who would go by this would be called a danger to other's in regards to medical information. Likewise the bible says God gave men all plants that bear seed as meat which is dangerous. Because a lot of plants with seeds can down right kill people. Likewise what is a god and what kind of test can be used to verify such a thing exist ? I ask the same question with demon's and spirits.
Modern horror movies are much less terrifying than horror movies of any other time period. I don't think using bloody graphics to scare people is gonna work out.
The greatest issue with jump scares, is that you can anticipate when they're about to happen. That's not how jump scares should work. They should be random and un-calculated, other wise you defeat the purpose of a jump scare. Jump scares are supposed to be used in-between the real scares.
You misunderstand me. A jump scare is devised to catch you off guard, because you're not supposed to know when a jump scare is going to happen, hence why it makes you "jump". Anticipation and suspense are great tools to use in the horror movie tool kit, but what's the point of trying to jump on the audience if they know it's coming?
No, jump scares are suppose to be used to cause an unease as you watch and they should be NATURAL, not some random 'out-of-the-blue noise that makes no sense to the story, let alone the scene. Perfect example of what I'm talking about is a creaking door somewhere in a dark house, or someone walking through a dark, empty hallway on a cold night and suddenly the heater clangs on breaking the silence. You don't need unnecessary, random noises. You need organic sound that fits the mood of the scene....of course, you need to set the scene properly first.
I mean jumpscares aren't scary though.... I am a HUGE horrorfan and has been since i was seven years old.... The ONLY movie that has EVER given me a jumpscare was Harry Potter one, when he entered the library and the screaming face popped out of the book.... Scary movies today are not scary.... Their jumpscares aren't even scary given how predictable they are, unlike the jumpscare in HP.... You can easily tell when a jumpscare will pop up and THE ONLY people that fall victim to it are people that never watches horror movies anyway - _ -'....
Shit when I was a kid the fact Voldemort was nameless and shit scared me and still does they did a good job portraying that in the movies of how terrifying he was to people who didn’t know him. Then when they showed him on the back of the professors head it almost made me shit myself...
I remember watching 'White Bear' and just...sitting there after watching it thinking what the!...can't put my finger on it...just unsettled...Black Mirror is a fantastic show. 'White Christmas' was also very unsettling once you figure out what's actually happening.
1. No originality/remake insanity. 2. PG-13 trying to get a broader audience, loses the soul of horror in the process. 3. Jump scares. 4. Every character is defective and makes you root for the killer because of their consistent stupidity. Etc
Would also copy paste writing and over milking franchise desensitizes viewers . Jump scares become predictable so no longer scary reason why Shining was a classic only one movie
TheEternalServant the first ring movie was scary and well done, the second was interesting in the fact that very few movies have ever been both funny AND boring at the same time. The third movie has me in stitches and I have no intention nor intrest in seeing that movie. That cow is empty and needs to be eaten.
Silence of the lambs is the perfect way to make a horror film. You don’t get scared until the film is over and that’s what I love about it. It’s one of those films where you think about ages after watching it
Scream Queen 👑 Yes but Silence of the lambs isn't a horror film, it's a Crime Drama which isn't the same category especially since it's about Buffalo 🦬 Bill who's a serial killer. But that does make me think of one of my favorite Ed Norton films Primal Fear.... So there never was a Roy, Now if that's what you think, There never was an Erin. He'd made the whole thing up so he could get away with Murder, And it worked
Most "modern horrors" I've seen with the jump scares I've forgotten about. The original terminator still unnerves me. Imagine being chased by something that resembles a human but isn't human, that nothing stop them, not knives, not bullets, not fire. But fire burns the darkness away, which makes it even more unnerving that it doesn't work. That it won't stop until it "gets you". You run so hard that your legs don't work and you have to crawl, putting buildings, cars and people between it and you and it still comes for *YOU*.
They're not scary now because: A) The studios want to get as big an audience as possible, so scares, gore, etc. are limited. B) The MPAA keeps interfering. C) Audiences in general have become a bunch of candy-asses. OR, D) All of the above. 😀
95% of horror movies don't scare me anymore that used to (Halloween, Child's Play, Suspiria and TCM original and especially the remake) but I still consider them scary. I just grew up and I know what happens. It isn't the movies that aren't scary we've just become jaded.
I want things that are really scary to people. Not spooky halloween stuff; I'm talking mass shootings, car accidents, kidnappings, etc. If you want REAL horror, those are things that are real horror.
I really like psychological horror or that horror that don't use your human instincts to scare you. Just gives you that feeling that something isn't right.
Random Videos too much story and plot can ruin a good visceral horror movie. I don't want to be mildly disturbed watching a horror movie...i want to be beaten up by the movie.
Corroded. Perception it's because demons and ghosts are scarier than most monsters. Think about it, would you be scared of Frankenstein or a shark in a film? No they aren't scary anymore.
6 years after this video, I'll say this: This has been the best decade for horror movies of all time. The witch, The lighthouse, Hereditary, The babadook, The conjuring... absolutely great. Even the bad horror movies (Annabelle, The nun etc) are, in my opinion, far better than the bad horror movies of other decades. I'll die in this hill.
+max larsen Yeah, I don't like many horror movies because of that. A film I do like though that just builds on tension, is 28 Days Later when they're trapped in a tunnel, the tension just builds and builds as you finally see a horde of zombies come hurtling down this tunnel, it still gives me goosebumps!
+max larsen I agree. Jump''scares'' aren't scary. They're just annoying. I've stopped watching horror movies completely because of the damn thing. It's not scary at all. It's just annoying as all hell.
+max larsen That's a good one. Here's another: Stinger. Actually, that was a term used by sound engineers for specific moments like those in the film. I've found an effective gauge for a horror movie i like to apply on the second viewing (if a film was good enough to watch a second time). Watch the film a second time with no sound. If a moment in the film still has a stinger effect, then you can generally tell a scene was shot well enough to build tension where the soundtrack only enhances the moment, rather than the moment depending on the soundtrack.
i haven't watched the video, but here is couple things that suck: 1. Unnessecary jumpscares. 2. Breaking the tension every two seconds by showing the monster/slasher. 3. Overall stupid story and script. 4. All the movies are just remakes.
@Eetu Halmela: Successful horror all boils down to the effectiveness of the collaborative talent involved. There's nothing wrong with jump-scare horror, if done well (The Descent). There's nothing wrong with horror that isn't shy about showing the monster, if done well (The Thing). There's nothing wrong with explicit horror, if done well (The Exorcist). There's nothing wrong with slasher horror if done well (Psycho). There's nothing wrong with non-scary horror, if done well (The Shining).
I agree with a lot of what you said. You are right to look at box office numbers because the people with money that back the movies are interested in the profits and not the art, which is why we have so many cheaply produced jump scare movies, because the motive is the cash grab. One point i think you missed is that its easy to focus on the crappy movies, and compare them to the classics. Being a big fan of horror I've seen some great movies in recent years, as well as the classics, but what we forget is in the era of the classics there were plenty of crappy movies that have been forgotten about. Movies like Annabell & Ouija will be forgotten, and in 10 years we may be praising this era for Oculus & Babadook. Fantastic video Chris! Love hearing your opinions, this was a nice break from the regular reviews :-)
the Malevolent I seriously do not understand whay people mean when they say they don't understand a movie. The Witch was a very simple and straightforward plot. What did you not understand about it?
looking back at that comment, I understand the plot, I just found it pretty pointless, the gory scenes were great, I have to admit, but the whole film feels like it should be a metaphor for something, that's what confuses me.
I watched The Shining with my girlfriend not long ago and after the movie she went on a rant about how the horror movies of today are terrible and that movies like The Shining is how you do it the right way, I am verry glad I found this woman.
The Shining was as mediocre a movie as there is. It’s not scary; it’s not interesting; it’s not creepy; it’s not suspenseful. Instead of making a movie about a mans slow decent into insanity, we have a movie with Jack Nicholson being Jack Nicholson in a hotel with a couple of ghosts. Unfortunately the Kubrick fanboys jizz over this movie because they love to look for the hidden meanings. Hidden meanings that aren’t even there. But, hey, at least it was a little better than the made for tv version.
My ideas of a good horror movie No jump scare music Less CGI/more practical effects Different approaches/twist that make sense NOT GETTING SEQUELS OR REBOOTS Likable and smart characters Keeping the audience questing
Best way to avoid the bad movies is to let someone else see it first, someone who has the same taste as you. So many hours saved with this easy trick. And wait, there's even more! Think about the money you save for not paying a ticket to a lousy movie. And with this ratings drops too.
I know this is an old video. But maybe they should just call the GOOD horror movies "Chillers". Because a movie that really gets to you - mentally, emotionally, or even skin-crawlingly physical - it gives you chills.
honestly a horror movie that i saw that really got to me is a movie called sinister, it's really psychological horror and you're constantly teased with seeing snippets of this demon and the main character trying to find out what it's about. It's a really good movie imo and it's kind of reminiscent about Insidious.
I think too much plot is detrimental to a horror movie. Fear is a very basic emotion. I believe every horror movie needs a degree of viciousness...nor necessarily gore...but a good horror movie doesn't necessarily need to be cerebral...just visceral...if you don't feel beaten up, messed up or even a little dirty, then it's not a horror movie.
"if you don't feel beaten up, messed up or even a little dirty, then it's not a horror movie. " Sounds like a good way to sum up the poor man's horror.
Cao Cao no...all of the classics do this...The original Texas Chainsaw, Halloween, the Shining, the original Night of the Living Dead all display what I was talking about. Are these all "poor man's horror movies?". Ps...so did the Babadook.
Horror for me is something that is so unpreventable and being stuck into a difficult situation. Most horror films nowadays are just these stupid people getting themselves into stupid, preventable, situations.
"most horror films NOWADAYS"......horror for as long as i can think has been like that. If you truly like horror you have to understand and accept what you're getting into. Its going to be cheesy, its going to be unrealistic (shouldn't have to say that) and most likely have bad acting. And you have to be cool with that. Otherwise, maybe the genre isn't for you. They won't all be IT,Get Out, or Devils Candy. My opinion
I think a real horror movie that really scared that's surprising not a horror movie is fight club, when the main character wants to leave fight club but there's no where to run, because he has eyes on him everywhere. If he tries to talk about it they'll chop his balls off. I thought that was truly terrifying because like you said, you can't escape this horror
That is EXACTLY how a 2019 version of that jump scare would be. Even worse is the double jump scare. OH MY GAWD Nope it’s just a cat No wait OH MY GAAAAAWD!!!!
Wait, never mind, that was just my friend. Why did that scare me? *OH-* Wait, nevermind. A bird just hit my window. *OH GOD-* Wait, no, my dog was just messing around in the closet. Wait a minute, I don't have a dog... *OH DEAR GOD*
Plot is largely irrelevant for horror. The point of horror is to get the audience involved with characters that are in a state of dread because they most likely will be killed. It's a basic natural feeling not something complicated to achieve requiring a grand plot. It's also why some of the best horror movies revolve around single locations because the audience doesn't have to follow unnecessary locations and additional distractions for filler.
The Shining is one of the best horror movies of all time. Like real -life horror, it seems quite normal in the beginning. Then, there’s a creeping sense of something not quite right. Watching Johnny slip into insanity is the most horrifying thing. Unfortunately, the word “horror” has been corrupted by the offenses listed in this video. A really good psychological movie has the audience feeling acutely uncomfortable. Tension, anxiety, maybe disgust or revulsion-feeling this in a fictional, somewhat controlled setting is what makes these thrillers so cathartic. I felt all that watching the 2018 iteration of the movie IT; oddly enough, I felt really good after. It was like a reset.
@Eugenia Veronica Bonsembiante. Cliche? Not at all. Remember, when IT was originally made (1984), it was kind of shocking to television viewers. Guys like King led the way. I’m not saying no one’s done it better.
@@zoazede2098 Yeah,most of the cliches were born out of this movie.Take a cinema lesson kid.And learn the basics of cinematography,and great perfomances
@@user-lx7sg8ks7b If the book was something original in concepts and basic structure that was in the 80' when it was wrote, not now, so it doesn't count beyond nostalgia 😑 I dont need to take classes of any kind (besides, how old are YOU to call me kid?, and even with that, you think you're superior or something 'cuz you're older? That's lame ) because a movie is based in something that old that appearently "invented" the "child group vs monster" cliché. Besides The movie works because of jumpscares and the fact that Skarsgard's Pennywise is ugly as fuck on purpose so it can be superficially scary, and that is cheap for "the best horror film of the year". I didnt complain that the movie has the clichés that Stephen King kinda invented for his novels, i complained about the ACTUAL HORROR MOVIES CLICHÉS, wich someone with half brains can notice, and the fact that the tone of the movie is a dissaster, and the fact that Bev is bullied because "she's a girl" is stupid even for the 80's, she could be bullied because she's a redhair, something that still happens today!!
It's 2018, and this video is still very relevant. It just always will be until there's more people willing to make some serious changes in the industry.
I have a simple explanation for you. Most people are primitive, simple minded retards, who only go to work, party, drink, eat, sleep and fuck. What else do you expect man?
Yeah I was gonna say the industry shouldn't really be blamed. They wouldn't be doing it if people would stop spending money to go see this garbage. People are mostly suckers of marketing/hype and even in the case of a shitty movie, people will still by tickets due to that fact.
i recently tried to explain why jump scares arent actually scary to my kids while discussing some of the latest horror movies. if your friend hides in the bushes then jumps out and shouts BOO when you arent expecting it, you will likely jump and for a split second you might feel scared. is your friend scary? of course not. its closer to being surprised than it is to being scary. i told them the easiest way to tell whether its a cheap jump scare is this: if you jump and feel scared...then 2 seconds later everyone is kinda chuckling looking at each other as if to say "that one got me" then clearly in less than 2 seconds you arent scared any more. another clue is that most people can sense the jump scare coming even if they arent consciously looking for it. my wife will literally hide her face before every jump scare and when i ask why she says she knows something scary is about to happen. so.. she can close her eyes a couple times for 5 seconds and avoid the "scary" parts of the movie? so...remove 20 seconds of this movie and it wont even be scary. i prefer the "scary" to be unavoidable. i prefer it to be woven into to the story so well that you cant watch the movie while skipping the few scary parts
You've nailed it. Jumpscares are so overused that they telegraph themselves now. Half the time nowadays when I'm watching a new film I sit with the remote in my hand so I can turn the volume down when I sense they're coming. One of my roommates noticed this and asked me "if you're scared why do you keep watching the movie?", to which I said "I'm not scared, I just don't like being shouted at".
even though the grudge has like 2 jumpscares which are not overwhelming and that idea of a girl with black long hair with a long dress is terrifying af
@@TH-camrFaceReveals you should watch the original japanese versions : Ju on and Ringu. They are even more terrifying and will haunt you for a long time.
@Black lodge ~ 'Rec.' is a Spanish movie, found footage, infected zombie, very good. There is the Swedish 'Let the right one in' about a vampire girl, simple and brutal. 'Last Train to Bushan' a Korean zombie movie, pretty good. 'As Above So Below' very creepy, set in Paris not sure who made it though. 'Brain Dead' is a New Zealand movie, zombie again, funny. 'Audition' is Japanese, it's brutal, about a man than dates a terrifying young woman. There are more but those are good.
In my opinion, Jopanese horror movies are very good at setting the unsettling mood (the most well known ones being movies like The Ring, or The Grudge [the original ones of-course]). "Audition" was a pretty scary movie and it was highly praised too. Another film I personally enjoyed was "Cold Fish", though it has so much violence and gore (it's based on a true event). For a foreign film other than Japanese, I think "Goodnight Mommy" was very well made. But those are just some of my personal opinions and I'm not sure if they fit to your taste.
@Black lodge ~ have you seen the French movie Raw? It's a strange one. It's a coming of age movie. A young girl blossoming into ... worth a watch, it's not scary horror but it's ok.
Thats Exactly why "The Shining" wasnt well recived in theaters and reviewers (apart from being unfaithfull to the book), Its an amazing Psychological horror thriller that doesnt tell you half of whats actually going on and thanks to that, it creates a stunning atmosphere, creppy performances and disturbing thiller that doesnt go beyond fantasy or reality AND THATS THE THING THAT MAKES IT A CLASSIC Did you actually know that back then Stanley Kubrick and Shelley Duvall were nominated for razzies? A razzie is an insult (movies like catwoman and jack and jill), and the shining is very far away from being one or one of those movies, Now its acttualy one of the best Psychological horror thriller of all time
I have to admit that 2/3rds of the movie, I was a little bored, but as the madness started kikcing in all the "useless" observations I had made for the characters til then made perfect sense and I ended up watching it more than 5 times out of seer joy for the excellent mystery surrounding the plot. You couldnt guess what was going to happen and I loved that. (I hadnt read the book before watching the movie)
I think Jumpscares should be banned. I mean I get "scared" when someone farts very loud, when my dog barks suddenly without a reason, when I ride my bike and a fly flies into my mouth. Thats just a reflex, not fear. Fear builds up slowly. True Horror is when you look for too long into the darkness and you start recognizing something that was there all along, especially when you see its eyes staring at you.
Salem Baron jumpscares can be good if they are setting up a scene, and then something scary actually happens after. Not just a senseless noise. And they can’t be overdone either.
Yeah, movies should at least be required to state how many jump scares they have. Like, no jump scares, very few jump scares, some, many, and very many. I dislike being startled, and I’m very easily startled, so anything other than no jump scares is just daily life for me.
right? It's like, these modern "scares" are the equivalent to being in a dark room and something clearly jumps out and goes "BOO!" - they're halloween haunted houses. Real horror is staring into a dark room, slowly convincing yourself that something is staring back - and the thought haunts you so much that you start to see it in other dark places afterwards...
Yes, every word you say is true. Good modern horror is a rare thing. Quick example: after watching HEREDITARY i was mentally quite fine and was praising the film for its quality, cinematography and understanding of true horror. But then I woke up that night and couldn't sleep for like 40 minutes straight. All the questions left in my mind were creating genuine horror hours and hours afterwards, as I was spiralling deeper into the world of Hereditary.
@@Unknown-ug9cf Cause they don't know the difference between being scared and being creeped out. Jumpscares are scary only because you don't expect them, so you're taken aback (although you can usually expect a jumpscare). Being creeped out is something that goes deeper than a momentary, intense fright. It is a very cheap way of scaring people, especially when there's a scarce character and plot structure and development. What really creep me out, for example, are slow shots with very subtle details, but still quite detectable. Something hidden from a naive and distracted mind, but if you look closely, the danger is right behind you, or just in front of you. But you don't see it at first. You keep doing your things, while someone follows each one of your steps and moves. Sinister, strident music plays a vital role, as the protagonist is consumed by angst and fear, and you feel those same emotions. By the way, I loved Babadook, and The Witch too. I wouldn't consider them masterpieces though, but they are definitely better than cheap, ghost films.
To me jump-scare is the cheapest way to put a scare on a viewer watching the movie. True horror is to make the viewer feel scared by the atmosphere of the movie itself, not rely on scare by having something lunge at the screen accompanied by a loud music sting/sound effect.
You know when you go to cinemas and you have to wait a while for even the trailers to start? Sometimes they just play music while you wait. Instead, they should show videos likes this.
+ConDom While I agree with you, I think dominant media is very, very, *very* selective and careful about what they'll show in certain public places, specifically movie theaters. Especially when the source is from an "anyone-can-put-their-opinion-in" community like TH-cam. See, the public is *sooo* freakin PC that everyone's too concerned about not hurting anyone's feelings and putting up "safe zones" where no bitch and a half will get all triggered and offended. If they played this surprisingly educational segment at a theater, a lot of people would probably get butt hurt because it would reflect on their movie-going choices and it would actually be bad for the big-screen business. It's because of this reason that the movies won't show the audience something logical or educational. Both fields have *some* sort of bias trailing behind them, and a lot of businesses today don't *like* bias.
+ConDom That would be awesome. I once was shopping in Miami and went to a cinema at the mall and arrived 1 hour before because I was on a trip on forgot to change the time. They played 40 minutes of commercial and shitty music. But it was cool I watched some netflix alone
Chris, I agree with you. I am SO SICK of cliche horror, such as dumb teenagers, creature features, and constant jump scares. I think madness movies should be the new horror. From The Shining to Oculus, insanity creates REAL fear in people. And Blair With and Paranormal Activity were also madness films. Even Jaws did well, for it was not just the monster shark, but how the movie got inside our heads, that made it so scary. Take Lifetime movies, which are designed to install complete fear of men into naive women; these TV movies are cheesy, but are able to manipulate those who let them. Horror that truly gets inside your head is what people should expect in cinema, not those "scare Betty Lou in the 57 T-Bird" cliches.
Justin, that is about the summary of it. For it is said that Hollywood is overloaded with "directors" who can't even direct traffic. Well, I know I can direct traffic, and even more than that.
You have to be careful, though, because psychological madness films also have some pretty shitty clichéd entries. "*I* was the killer all along?!?!" "All the supernatural stuff was just in the protagonist's head!", etc.
I do agree with you, BUT not all horror movies are supposed to scare you, a lot of creature features are there to watch for pure fun of watching people get destroyed
The Babadook scared the shit out of me. I didn't get the association with depression and all that deeper stuff. As a monster movie, it still scared the crap out of me even when they didn't actually show the monster. The book reading to the mother's child was like !!!!!! THAT really freaked me out how the book story changed.
I totally agree. Jump scares are cheap and leave me feeling disrespected by the film makers. A good horror film shouldn't leave me feeling irritated. Instead, I want to be looking over my shoulder on my way back home. I want to be haunted by information presented to me, not startled by a loud sound.
The Titan Well, in Germany movies like "unknown user" or sth are available for 12 year olds, and I watched that movie with my mother, who was scared ( she easily gets scared tho) like damn, and we both, once the movie was over, walked out there, discussing the fact that this shit is "ok" for 12 year olds. when I see these kids at my school, I would never believe they'd be able to watch any horror movies without shitting their pants.
I was shocked reading that Unknown User is okay for 12 year-olds (I'm 25 and was disgusted and horrified by that movie) and checked online - the wikipedia page says that it was initially published with a FSK 12 (June 2015) but revisited in October 2015. Now it's FSK 16 which is way more appropriate (still too young imo but better).
MaschaDraws I Think 16+ is ok but still, I know some older people who were scared of this movie, and I think every horror movie should be 18+. Sounds a little bit too much and people under 18 will probably be against it, but I personally think that's justified. You can't define (is that a word lol) someones fear by their age. But if someone's 18+ they might be more ok with being scared.
I am 14 years old and I look like 12 and most horror movies where I live are 15+ (They never let me see horror movies bc I look like 12) and my friends look like 17 so I pretend I'm the-awkward-little-brother-who-likes-to-be-with-his-big-brother *brother*
Jumpscaring being used for horror movies is like tickling the audience as a comedian. Your just taking advantage of the natural instincts of humans, not genuine fear.
Hell yeah. The babadook is one of my favorite movies of all time. Its deep, thought provoking, and beautifully symbolic of real-world psychological torment. Truly a peace of art. But definitely not for those looking for cheap thrills. If this movie were a painting, it would be one which the viewer HAS to observe with deep thinking rather than a passing glance.
For me, a true horror movie makes you feel paranoid and sleepless. Here's a cliched horror film: Opening scene shows origin of spirit/demon/monster, dumb teenagers check out house/forest with said creature, jumpscare by friend, another teenager stupidly unleashes something without caution, friend disappears/dies, friends argue about what happened, another person dies, friends suddenly become unstoppable and join forces, blood spurts out, jumpscares, jumpscare, spirit/demon/monster is now gone, friends move out, final jumpscare. Here's how to fix that: don't use jumpscares too much, don't rely heavily on gore, use more suspense and darkness and silence, but NO JUMPSCARES, don't use teenagers as main characters.
I had always thought I had no spine when it comes to horror films because I hate haunted houses (in amusement parks), hate being jumped and/or scared and quite literally just the thought of a clown under my bed is enough to cost me my sleep, so I avoided them altogether. When I went to see "Sinister" with a friend in the cinema, the creature (?)'s image haunted my mind so bad that I couldn't sleep until 7 am the next day, so I was even more convinced that horrors just weren't for me. Then last week I went to see "The Conjuring 2" in cinema after hearing numerous praises from Chris and Jeremy Jahns, other critics and fans alike, hoping and exciting for a good scare (I was in the mood to be scared), and... I was gravely disappointed. Of course there's that one scene (which I won't spoil) that is the definite highlight, it was really scary that made me peaked at the screen through my fingers, but in the end I felt nothing, I was even so distracted by the end of the film that I started my habitual nitpicking, the demon didn't make a heavy impact on me like the creature in "Sinister", in fact no impact was made at all. Then I realized that I'm not a spineless little shit, it's just that for my virginal horror experience, I had a well-made horror film in the best setting possible (the cinema). Thinking about the state of horrors nowadays, that revelation is quite sad actually.
Totally...I got bored of those clichés! Why teenagers all the time? And why they have to be that stupid? I like the most films makes you feel afraid of being alone,checking your back or some effect like that AFTER watching the movie!
The industry used to rely on slow building tension. Sure, stuff would happen to make you feel insecure or tense (a side character dying or a ramp up in antagonist activity) but it was softer. Not about being scared but building to something more. Atmosphere and subtly are the keys to being actually decent (not the best, but they're the bedrock of the genre).
jumpscares can work. even after repeated viewings. it's just that filmmakers make jumpscares too obvious. a truely sudden appearance of a monster can be nerve racking.
I was so god damn mad when I read the comments on IMDb for Hereditary. “This was literally he worst movie I have ever seen... why where all those naked people standing around!” 🤬🤬🤬Hereditary was perfect.
Same here, Hereditary is a masterpiece of horror, where is the Oscar for Toni Collette? That film is so creepy I haven't been able to make myself watch it again. Then I hear people Curse of La Llorona is scary, Annabelle is scary and so on... WTF!
A good horror movie is not the ones which make you jump out of the seat. The good horror movie is the ones scares you even after the movie is ended. Small fears we carry back to home.
Sex scenes feels little bit forced. Not gonna say anything about gore because I'm big sucker for it but it really can be little bit out of place too. You are right, they almost looks same too, no wonder they looked so familiar always : D
I LOVED Babadook. Wonderfully acted and deeper than your typical surface level monster. One of my favorites for putting you uncomfortably off center just with the mother/son relationship right off the bat.
Only one I've seen that I've appreciated, is the only in the first insidious. Where it's just that face behind the lady. Ugh that things face was terrifying when I was young
@@larrypoppins6273 The most unnerving game I have ever played, American McGee's Alice, has literally zero jump scares, yet that game gave me endless nightmares and still makes me uncomfortable when I think of it even after more than a decade has passed. Also Silent Hill 2 is often regarded as one of the best horror games ever made, yet it has very few jump scares.
What’s also bothering me personally, is that we rarely get human villains in horror anymore. It’s all just paranormal stuff that quite frankly I don’t care about, because that is the cheapest basis for horror. Remember Hannibal Lecter & Buffalo Bill? They had some motivation behind their actions (mainly mental illness), and that made them feel real to me, because people like that, unlike ghosts, do exist in real life. And that’s the terrifying thing. It’s like the thing with magic. Magic has no real boundaries wich on one hand can make it scary, but on the other hand is just uninspired, and (as of now) painfully predictable most of the time. Now, I’m not saying all paranormal and supernatural horror is rubbish. It’s just that I wish that we as an audience could get both fleshed out main characters and villains again, that aren’t just some idiots in an abandoned house vs. an eViL sPiRiT whose only motivation is to haunt people because...well...they are in my house! How dare they!
Hannibal didn’t have a mental illness, he was just traumatized be his childhood, I mean being chained up in the cold, having your family killed, then seeing your little sister cooked and eaten would mess anyone up, it’s traumatization not mental illness.
Film makers and audience goers need to realize horror doesn't just mean scary. It means suspense, dread, fear, and terror. Horror films don't have to be scary to be classified under horror.
Dwagin it depends on your taste, but i hate useless killing too. I rather watch two persons go crazy about 'something mentally torturing them for the whole movie.
Yeah for example Scream wasn't scary at all but it was a fking awesome movie!! Same with A Nightmare On Elm Street movies, entertaining af and they don’t try to scare the audience the whole time. I've NEVER wanted to rewatch any modern horror movie I've seen, they are just boring, repetitive and predictable, zero creativity.
My favorite tactic to replace the jumpscare is to use dramatic irony. Let the audience see something spooky or dangerous that the character can't. The Haunting of Hill House makes great use of this. It also uses the reverse strategy of showing the ghost's eye view, where you see the look of fear long before you see the cause of it, but then the camera tracks back and pivots to a side view of the character and the ghost. I find it clever when either the audience or the character - but not both - can see the threat. The former generates a sense of "get out of there, it's right behind you!", the latter more of a "oh god, what terrifying thing are you seeing that I'm not?".
Pixeldoll l I watched it a couple months ago and it was one of the best horror films I’ve seen in a while. Really tense atmosphere, shocking moments, disturbing imagery, great direction, and realistic acting. I remember feeling anxious and tense just by hearing the music during the opening credits. The most unforgettable moment was probably the scene involving Charley. I just sat there in shock unable to comprehend it properly
+Rosalyn Rainwater 1. Can't argue about this. This is something each and everyone needs to decide for himself. 2. Here I disagree strongly, there are a lot of examples where showing the monster improves the horror-experience. But it really depends on what the viewer is interested in, most of the time, the viewer will be disappointed if the monster won't ever be shown to them. Never showing the monster, works imo only in psychological horror-movies, but even then people will be interested in the physical manifestation of the monster/horro. Also, I have no Idea what pterodactyls sound like, for me these are noises I never heard before -> underlines the creepiness by confronting with something unknown 3. While the Kübel-Ross model is well know for what you said. It's an copping mechanism which ca be used in all kinds of situations. In pretty much every situation where you lose or lost something it's applicable. And let's not forget that symbolism can be displayed in various/abstract ways. But I know how arguing on TH-cam is, and I'm sure I can't change your view on the movie. So no hard feelings about this. :)
exaaaaactly!!! jump scares just trigger reflexes. You might get scared like that even in a comedy. There isn't really any atmosphere any more or disturbing concepts that haunt you afterwards.
yesssss, i've turned to Asian horror, because there's a lot, more suspence and rarelly any jump scares, I saw The Neon Demon last week, i don't know how that movie is horror, it just made me disgusted, but can't watch Tale of Two Sisters, The Grudge, Audition or Dumplings, they make me unconfortable, scared and on edge.
Jump scares serve a purpose when used scarcely. A jump scare can cause tension by having the audience's guard up. Off the top of my head, Mulholland Drive had an excellent jump scare.
I feel the same way about both Insidious and Conjuring. Two of my favorite modern horror films. Both of those movies created such a creepy atmosphere that had me looking around my house. I also agree with you on the Babaduck too.
Many people, like the comment in the video, say that imagination is a childish thing, yet it's our own imagination that terrifies us the most. "Childish" shouldn't be the term given to imagination. As you grow older, you lose a lot of the creativity and imagination you had as a kid, yes, but a child's mind can be full of incredibly horrifying things. I remember watching secretly from behind the couch as my mum put on horrors, and afterwards would be terrified of going down the dark hallway to my bedroom, my mind going wild with fucking terrifying images, so vivid they might as well be hallucinations, flashing at me from the blackness of the hall. For the next few weeks, every night would be spent trying to go to sleep, but closing or covering my eyes would cause monsters and creepy, morphing faces to appear, but opening my eyes would cause the objects in my peripheral vision to warp and move, and so my eyes would be darting around the room, wanting to get out of there or scream, but petrified at the creatures in my mind moving towards and around me, so I can only sit there, terrified, waiting for something to grab me. Even after you mostly recover, you never quite feel safe and alone in your own room at night. You always feel as if something, or someone is looking at you sleeping from a dark corner of the room, or staring in at you from that small gap in the wardrobe, or lying down, hiding under your bed, waiting for you to fall asleep. If an adult had the imagination of a kid, they would most likely go insane with paranoia. Imagination is not to be taken lightly, it is a very powerful thing.
I had a similar experience when I was like 8 years old, and it wasn't even a full moive. It was a movie TRAILER about a monster that lives in the cabinet. I don't even remember what the monster looks like, but I could still recall myself shivering under the blanket, trying not to make a sound, even though I was literally sharing the same bed as my parents, and we don't even have a cabinet that large (we were poor back then). It's my imagination that became my biggest enemy, and it tortured me for weeks before I could relax.
My sister, who is 13 years older than me, made me watch “The Shining” when I was 5 years old and constantly say “Tommy” and “Redrum” in that creepy voice to make her friends laugh. What scarred me the most was for YEARS I thought that woman/creature was in my bathtub behind the shower curtain. I can remember even through my teens once in awhile that scene would pop in my head and I would HAVE to look behind the curtain. When I watch horror now I stop thinking about it in a day, but I believe “The Shining” has stuck with me so long because I was so little when I watched it. The only movies that really scared me for a few days as an adult was probably “The Babadook” and “VHS”, and as a teen “Jeepers Creepers” used to scare the shit out of me! Haha!
@Toby Thurlow White: If you don´t go into writing of some sort, your talent is wasted. That was amazing. Loved reading this bit. Really did ... very vivid and imaginative!
Toby Thurlow White one time when I was around 6 years old I was having a hard time on an escalator and I was just trying to walk back up it backwards but it just kept going down and I was terrified. I imagined myself falling and hitting my head on the escalator and it would just keep going down and down as I was in agony. Ever since then I’ve avoided escalators at all costs and now that I’ve been exposed to more violent gory stuff I reimagined that thought about ten times worse.
The adage "people don't know what they want until you give it to them" is so goddamn true. I'm sick of focus groups and marketing-driven films, and even more depressing is knowing that it gets butts in seats, so why should Hollywood change their approach?
Amelia Bee Yeaaa, thing is that no one can afford it, even the people that live here lol. :( I live in Hollywood hills, I've forgotten what it's like to pay cheap rent. On the flip side everyone is very happy here; it's like collective rent suffering brings us all together!
I would say don't worry about what mainstream does. Just focus on watching directors and writers material you like and give them support by buying their stuff. I am very picky about what movies I watch in theaters but I don't go crazy and watch everything for free or close to it as it kinda defeats the purpose of getting more good movies made.
I know how it feels. I went to a screening of Jaws and when I was leaving the theater, I heard a couple of teenagers saying "I thought they'd never show the shark."
One of my favorite movies is The Exorcist... I still remember screaming in my head "Don't go up the stairs!" And then they'd peak in the door... now THAT is scary.
The only tension I feel before a jump scare is knowing that each time they happen I lose part of my hearing. I hate when scare cords are done excessively, it's not scary, it's just annoying
One day some idiot family moved into a house but little did they know the previous resident was the Xenomorph Queen that accidentally left her eggs there and the whole family got facehug'd, then the Xenomorph Queen remembers she left her eggs there, rushes back to get them but the whole family has already died and now there are an equal amount of normal Xenomorphs, and they say "Fuck it", sell the house again and moves in the Alien Queen's apartment the end.
Kyle Donaldson By ending do you literally mean the last shot in the film that's just a retarded jumpscare? Or how the narrative ended? SPOILERS them dying?
Kyle Donaldson I liked how it served him right for taking things too far, it was unlike all the other cliche hollywood horror films nowadays where the all live at the end.
John Riley *SPOILERS* Showing the kids at all was a pretty big let down. The cheese of them dancing around earlier in the film just felt out of place. The ending was also pretty weak, they showed the "main horror" in a such a way was far less scary then the rest of the film.
In most horror movies, (that I’ve seen at least) there’s sex scenes, which really ruins it for me, I’m here for horror, NOT porn, I’ve heard people ascribe a voyeuristic aspect to horror movies, but I *really* don’t like watching two characters have sex, it always happens though. So, in short, most horror movies are overly sexual and it pisses me off.
I think the scariest movies are the ones that creep you out, not the ones that get you to jump out of your seat a few times.
I strongly agree
The part with the lawn mower was done so well, the way it kept going and going with no sound and them BOOOOM! Very loud noise AND awful gory scare.
I agree, while a jump scare when done right can work but it should never be the focus of the movie. The atmosphere and tenchon should be.
Me too. Jump scares are for Halloween Haunted Houses. Growing unease and that creeping feeling that characters are either losing it or pulling the mask of sanity off are more effective.
When I first saw the following, it was creepy but, parts are now cut out ( @ least 1 part) & it kind of has an unintentionally funny moment. The movie was "The Legend of Hellhouse:" Yes. it had some jump scares but it works instead of annoys. As far as the unintentionally funny moment, all I'll say is watch the cat segment in it.
“The problem with modern horror movies”
*It’s been 4 years nothing has changed*
It doesn't change for last 30 years at least
Have you watched all of them? The wailing?
It's been 5
Gerry Buckets Those “artsy”, pretentious and boring movies are not good at all imo. Just because it’s weird and different doesn't make them good or enjoyable horror movies for me. I dislike that kind of movies almost as much as the fucking jumpscare/cliche/possessed house-doll garbage we get every month.
Tricko so you hate good and bad horror movies? sounds like you just don't like the genre
It might shock you if someone pops a balloon behind you with a pin, but it's much more unnerving to see them holding the pin and nearly pop the balloon then not pop it just holding the pin there.
Agreed. Very good analogy.
+Andy Foster Yes, very good analogy indeed.
+Andy Foster This is real horror for me because I'm not really scared of balloon but I'm scared when somebody starts to blow it.
+Andy Foster your analogy deserves a nobel
I'm scared to death by balloons
jump scares in bad horror movies are like laugh tracks in bad sit-coms
or laugh tracks in general
Like every episode of Seinfeld.
Yes very true. They are a cheap way of getting you scared without any actual effort, when done badly. Like, not to get biased, big bang theory just having laugh tracks over everything so you get the feeling that it is actually funny.
Big Bang Theory, Seinfield, Friends, Cheers, to name a few
@@pelloo3627 Agree completely!
Jump scares are like a comedian tickling you.
For some reason I spent 30 min giggling on your comment, don't know why...
Best analogy ever
or Dane Cook
genius.
jade elliott please stop stealing top comments from other videos
I have to agree that psychological horror is much scarier and enjoyable than a jump-scare film.
Agreed. Jump scares are almost predictable
You should find some old Hitchcock thrillers. He knew how to get into the audiences heads and t was befor CGI so it's all story and great acting.
@@jodimbrewer so true ! mostly I focus on avoiding the stupid jump scares instead of following and enjoying the film itself....
@@TimDyck the older horror flicks are the best.
@@Nerubico that's what I have to do.
Jump scares are freaking annoying. Like bitch, if I wanted to get scared by a sudden noise, I would stand next to my toaster.
PoppinBubbles 😂😂😂😂
PoppinBubbles OMG YASSS😂😂
I understand: toasters are scarier than most horror movies
The Thinkers I get spooked by movies. But for the most part I'm a semi easy movie person
The problem is not even that. Is how sloppily the movies introduce the jumpscare.
A good jumpscare just happens, no leading up to it, no musical queue when it happens. That way, when the real thing appears you haven't been "trained" to expect the jumpscare.
But most movies nowadays dont even go that far. They just stumble upon themselves and fail to scare anyone older than 5
PS: It is also what the video talked about XD
People watch horror movies for the "thing." They don't watch it for the story. Horror in Hollywood has become pornography.
Most of the true horror fans don't feel that way.
General audiences do, but true horror fans aren't like that.
That's why it's annoying that Horror Fans are misjudged.
Care to elaborate? I’m genuinely curious
@@steelsaber54 what he/she is trying to say is that the reason most people watch horror films is just because of the adrenaline rush they get upon seeing the jumpscare and the design of the ghost and how scary it looks, and not the actual plot, sound design, audio visual cues, and just generally the art of horror films.
4 years ago “the problem with horror movies TODAY”
Recommend to me April 13th 2019
Yeah but it's literally still true today, just showing how much the genre has evolved...
Lmao that's literally what happened to me
Still a big problem.
Me too
cool user name maybe it’s because your taste in videos has changed? i mean just saying
What movies think horror audiences want: jumpscares, momentary fright, monsters
What horror audiences want: good writing, lasting fear, unique imagery
they don't think that. they make cheap movies cause it's easier and they don't care what audiences like but people are stupid and keep buying modern movies
@@iniuram8231 You missed the joke
@@gliscorpropagandaaccount1764 and you're not serious
@@iniuram8231 This is supposed to be a joke, so why would I be serious?
@Starscream91 thanks
"This is the easiest kind of scare"
That's because a jump scare isn't really a scare at all... it's a surprise.
More like a startle.
EXplosion981 exactly. If you tickle me and I laugh it doesn't make you funny. Startling at jump scares is a functional bodily reflex.
It's a adrenaline surge and unless they're broken everyone gets this.
@@erikseavey9445 the adrenaline rush ruins the rest of the movie... The auidience is no longer scared, the threat is gone.
@@mischa2643 Exactly, it's a cheap gimmick
The problem for me is that I cant stand the characters. I find myself rooting for the killer, demon, or ghost.
The problem for me is that I watch bad horror movies because the characters are hella cute
This is intentional. I’ve watched many horror flicks. The recent films deliberately don’t build the characters. You can’t relate to them and they’re stupid.
The problem for me is that horror movies just aren’t scary anymore. Most of the horror movies today feel more like suspenseful thrillers than actual horror.
When that happens then the film itself has failed.
@@poett8875 I think the problem is their are just too many of them and all of us probably have watched a lot of these films and now they have become really predictable for us
Chris, you hit the nail on the head when you said that audiences have forgotten what real horror is
People need to realize that if a person jumps after a jumpscare happens that doesn't automatically mean it scared them, it was because of the loud noise that it made, it's not genuine fear, it's a bodily reaction that we can't help, similar to how, even if you see it coming, if you hear nails scratching on a chalkboard it's gonna hurt your ears and cause you to clench up, people need to stop confusing real fear with natural human reactions
One movie that scared the hell out of me was "The Ghost and the Darkness". I would call it a horror movie, because man eating lions that hunt purely for sport ARE FUCKING HORRIFYING!!! The jumpscares are built up by the lions constantly evading the traps placed by the engineer and the hunter for hire. No zombies, no mythological lore bullcrap, no vampires, just pure, unadulterated reality.
Ben McDonald jump scares are also a form of psychological release. you can't help but relax after a jump scare. Thats why psychological horror is so good, it slowly increases the fear and mental preassure without letting up.
Ben McDonald I live the evil dead trilogy
The original exorcist has it all. That's how horror is done.
*Anirudh Viswanathan* along those same lines, many episodes of that crime show "Criminal Minds" scare the hell out of me, because they are actually reiterations of the things that really happen in a world populated with the most terrifying monster of all -the anonymous human predator! Very few horror movies genuinely scare me -but that show often does (or did)! :)
"Imagination is for kids"? ...Seriously?
What's next, "Using one's brain is for scientists"?
BIG BRAIN TIME
Jessie Hogue ikr?
you and 400 others don't understand?
@@StayFractalesque Why, you lost your imagination in your teenage years too?
lol
Jumpscares in movies are an equivalent to running up to someone from behind and shouting "BOO!"
Yeah, it makes everyone jump, because it's a reflex… it has nothing to do with actual fear
Well jumpscares can be efficient if used right (like unexpected anor build right), for exemple Conjuring 1 and 2
@@mhd1442 can't the jumpscare scene in Alien 1979 dude !!
Yeah it happened to me where i was yawning at the conjuring movie while our class played it. Then my classmate from vehind shouted at my back whilep ushing me so i got surprised and he called me a pussy.
Ikr its so shit. They could legit pop up a quick picture of spongebob with an earrape ambulance siren sound out of nowhere and it would have the exact same effect
@@itsemachine yup xd
Misery by Stephen King is one of my favorites horror movies, because it is pure horror. Imagine being injured and kinapped and held hostage by a psychopath that claims to love you or at least care for you. The way the movie builds up tension is like no other movie. It's starts with hope and slowly removes every inch of it throughout the film. Psychological horror at it's bedst if you ask me.
So it's...terror? I mean horror has changed a lot
It is definetly one of those most real horror films, ever made.
I've never watched it, but I'm glad it was good. The book is terrific, I kept checking to make sure I still had all my limbs as I read it.
He didn’t get out of the cockadoodie car
My only problem with Misery was I just kept thinking to myself “ain’t no way Sonny Corleone would ever let this broad play him like that”. 😂
Doesn't help that they dumb them down for a PG-13 rating to get the tweens and teens in, the biggest cash cow for them.
Paul Tomaszewski Thank you. You can do a lot more to the audience if a movie is rated R. Not talking about gore or blood here but more of subject matter. Recently there was a movie about a planned parenthood employee who quit. Do to well...you get the idea. They could have easily made it PG-13 but the wanted to bring home the reality of abortions. Not since The Exorcist has a movie kept me up for countless nights. It is rated R for REAL.
Yes I'm in that demographic but it's better off r rated cause a PG 13 horror is a complete shithole of bore
Anthony Palmer What movie is that?
@@anthonypalmer8975 I wish they would let teenagers into R rated movies, then. I love horror but I basically had to sneak in to see IT, which honestly didn't deserve the R rating in my opinion. Yeah, it was pretty scary sometimes, but I didn't think the subject was extremely disturbing.
S R unplanned is the title
A jump scare isn't a scare it's a startle. You can have a documentary of animals and suddenly a picture of an ass taking a massive dump with earrape audio. It gives the same reaction. It's startling. Horror movies need to make you paranoid and scared even after the movie is over
Thank You!! That is ALL jump "scares" are is startling someone, which is in no way actually creating fear in a person.
Malohn I thought hereditary had a good mix of both
I dont think its even startle. Because you expect it. When someone walks in corridor and everything is dark and music is low you know 100% its coming. So its not even surprising. I dont even move or give a damn about it. I just feel violated (mostly ear rape due to sudden change of volume). So instead of jump scare I would say "sudden ear rape". Its simply disgusting, disturbing whatever you wanna call BUT scary.
Personally I find the horrors that show dark sides of reality with killers being natural things (like insanity etc.) the most scary. Because only children will believe that there is some Freddy Krueger or Jason Voorhees but if something can actually happen even to me then THATS what I find scary.
Being startled does not scare me. It pisses me off and makes me impatient with the film. I end up not liking it just as a visceral reaction.
Ikr .
“The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown” ----H. P. Lovecraft
Ah, I use that quote all the time. Unfortunately, nowdays people want to have everything explained to them. And if it doesn't it's suddenly a "bad" movie.
Glad to see someone who have same opinion :)
Great quote by the legend
Ah, yes. Lovecraft is one of my most favorite author. The Cthulhu Mythos is very interesting and I recommend people read some of his works. I would love to see one of his works adapted to the big screen (like 'At The Mountains of Madness' was supposed to be), but I fear that it will either be done horribly or people just won't get it... Sigh... Anyways. Good quote!
Yes, I know that. That's why I said it'd be done horribly because of how hard it'd be to portray that feeling of existential horror.
''Imagination is for kids''? I am flabbergasted by how shallow and wrongheaded that sentiment is.
Miguel Flagstaff what ?🤣
That critique is frightening in itself. Imagine being a mindless drone as an adult.
To them artists are nonexistent-
At all-
That's the equivalent of saying that existing is for chumps. It's shallow, stupid and the person who wrote that is probably five.
If this was true, then there wouldnt be any progress
Jump scare abuse is exactly why FNAF should not be made into a movie
EmanGameplay See but fnaf 1 (EMPHASIS ON 1) is a good indie fun game because it has a very creepy atmosphere and ends in a scare that is pretty frightening. I was pretty spooked the first few times I played it. Now i do think the whole franchise was milked too long. It should have just been fnaf 1 because it was a really good idea. Those animatronics are pretty frightening because it reminds us of those creepy animatronics from chuck e cheese.
George Pearson I mean if the game got more developers yeah it could be a really solid horror game, but you do have to remember its just one guy doing everything. If he got even a small team it could be really good.
George Pearson Yeah from the first game he probably didn't have the money, but the second and third he definitely did.
Maybe if the movie focuses around a person or group investigating the mystery around the murders instead of the animatronics it could work.But I doubt it will take that route.
EmanGameplay Not really. FNAF has a pretty disturbing backstory. If done right, then the movie could be a great psychological crime detective thriller.
I don't like horror movies but the best horror movies are the kind that make you paranoid. You know the kind- the movies that makes you check in the closet, keep the lights on and makes sure you don't look directly in the mirror
Ciel Caxx yeah, that's why I like the ring, there's no jumpscares (maybe one or 2) and there's lots of tension so you think something will happen but it doesn't then the scariest part happens at the end
Ciel Caxx Insidious number 1 and the rings number 1
oh man, I was looking over my shoulder for days after insidious
TheDragon Squad Alien wasn't at all scary completely overated
bruh you just have schizophrenia
I hate jump scares! My favorite is a psychological horror
Amanda Brown silent Hill ?the birds ? the thing ? night of the living dead ? dunwitch horror ? eraser head? vanishing on 7th street? stuff like that ?
i'd argue american psycho isn't really psychological horror. you don't experience dread/terror watching it. it's just a load of gore used to serve a satirical message.
The Blob and The Thing were cool, also The Mist.
Same! I (usually) can't stand jump scares. (I found that in a few, they were well-ish placed, such as in Drag Me to Hell.)
i dislike horror in general, 9/10 are incredibly disappointing and laughably stupid plus i wanna avoid the nightmares but i plucked up the courage to watch the babadook and did not regret, yea it was tricky to get to sleep that night but the film was well worth it and that's the point i think, whatever jonra you stick on a film at the end of the day, did you enjoy it was it a good film, that's what matters, my point is yea i don't like horror movies because i don't understand why people want to be scared but its good to understand the necessity of the feel of the movie to portray the idea, i think a big problem with movie makers is they seem to choose the jonra and the age before the film is made when it should be the opposite the jonra should be determined by the movie. if you pic the jonra first then you will aim it towards that which will take away from the movie.
Me watching Ouija: -_-
Me watching a random dark-asthetic video that has no intent to scare the viewer: *runs to get the bible*
Mediccky i can definitely relate but also im the 66th like!
Mediccky Everybody gangsta till they hit the last 30 minutes of Lake Mungo
Actually, being in God’s Word would do wonders for All people, and acceptance of the Truth therein too.
@@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 What a jackass
@@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 Lol God's word ?
Dude the bible is written by human's claiming to speak for a god not the other way around.
According to the bible sickness and disease are caused by either god or demon's which is incorrect.
Epilepsy is said to be demonic possession as well.
Anyway who would go by this would be called a danger to other's in regards to medical information.
Likewise the bible says God gave men all plants that bear seed as meat which is dangerous.
Because a lot of plants with seeds can down right kill people.
Likewise what is a god and what kind of test can be used to verify such a thing exist ?
I ask the same question with demon's and spirits.
Modern horror movies are terrifying.
Terrifyingly terrible
Yes, they are "terrifying", but not in the positive sense.
Modern horror movies are much less terrifying than horror movies of any other time period. I don't think using bloody graphics to scare people is gonna work out.
I guess neither of you read the full comment?
Maybe expand your horizons a bit. There’s a lot more out there than remakes and cheap jump scares.
@@07foxmulder read the full comment.
The greatest issue with jump scares, is that you can anticipate when they're about to happen. That's not how jump scares should work. They should be random and un-calculated, other wise you defeat the purpose of a jump scare. Jump scares are supposed to be used in-between the real scares.
Jesse Bond Anticipation is the key tho
You misunderstand me. A jump scare is devised to catch you off guard, because you're not supposed to know when a jump scare is going to happen, hence why it makes you "jump". Anticipation and suspense are great tools to use in the horror movie tool kit, but what's the point of trying to jump on the audience if they know it's coming?
Jesse Bond We are always going to anticipate them for them to be effective, but I see what you mean.
I remember my sis and I laughing at Annabelle because they were so predictable and a lil cheesy
No, jump scares are suppose to be used to cause an unease as you watch and they should be NATURAL, not some random 'out-of-the-blue noise that makes no sense to the story, let alone the scene.
Perfect example of what I'm talking about is a creaking door somewhere in a dark house, or someone walking through a dark, empty hallway on a cold night and suddenly the heater clangs on breaking the silence.
You don't need unnecessary, random noises. You need organic sound that fits the mood of the scene....of course, you need to set the scene properly first.
Wow I didn't even realize this video was 4 years old at first LMAO
Terran Titanium it’s 5 yrs old to me
same
Neither did I
Terran Titanium just goes to show how relevant it still is.
I mean jumpscares aren't scary though....
I am a HUGE horrorfan and has been since i was seven years old....
The ONLY movie that has EVER given me a jumpscare was Harry Potter one,
when he entered the library and the screaming face popped out of the book....
Scary movies today are not scary.... Their jumpscares aren't
even scary given how predictable they are, unlike the jumpscare in HP....
You can easily tell when a jumpscare will pop up and THE ONLY people
that fall victim to it are people that never watches horror movies anyway - _ -'....
So you’ve been a huge horror fan for a whole year?
I know right, the only time a movie truly jump-scared me was in goddamn Zootopia
Even Jumpscare in Alien(1979)(when there was a scene where Xenormorph came to catch Dallas) was brilliant than what horror movie did today
Shit when I was a kid the fact Voldemort was nameless and shit scared me and still does they did a good job portraying that in the movies of how terrifying he was to people who didn’t know him. Then when they showed him on the back of the professors head it almost made me shit myself...
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A real horror movie is the one which fucks up your mind & surrounding, not your eardrums. smh
Vipul Khedekar I think you would love black mirror.
the grudge's kayako fucked up my whole life because i was terrified of it since i watched it as a kid
Vipul Khedekar Sadly when tje people watching it are fucked up,it doesn't matter.
I remember watching 'White Bear' and just...sitting there after watching it thinking what the!...can't put my finger on it...just unsettled...Black Mirror is a fantastic show. 'White Christmas' was also very unsettling once you figure out what's actually happening.
Watch Pet semetary that one will fuck you up for days
"It wasn't even scary" is one of the only phrases that can fill me with rage.
Annabelle wasn't even scary :3
+Ronin Durey annabelle was scary, but the babadook was SO much better
Transformers 4 wasn't even scary.
+Its_only_martin I know right, I walked out of the theater, where was my monster dammit?!
Annabelle was one the most boring movies I've ever seen.
1. No originality/remake insanity. 2. PG-13 trying to get a broader audience, loses the soul of horror in the process. 3. Jump scares. 4. Every character is defective and makes you root for the killer because of their consistent stupidity. Etc
Agree with number 2, theres nothing I hate more than being stuck in a theatre with a bunch of preteen girls.
***** I would as well, I wasn't ranking them as most to least damaging, just as points of annoyance as they came to me.
Would also copy paste writing and over milking franchise desensitizes viewers . Jump scares become predictable so no longer scary reason why Shining was a classic only one movie
You guys just described everything that was wrong with the Rings movie.
TheEternalServant the first ring movie was scary and well done, the second was interesting in the fact that very few movies have ever been both funny AND boring at the same time. The third movie has me in stitches and I have no intention nor intrest in seeing that movie. That cow is empty and needs to be eaten.
Silence of the lambs is the perfect way to make a horror film. You don’t get scared until the film is over and that’s what I love about it. It’s one of those films where you think about ages after watching it
Scream Queen 👑 Yes but Silence of the lambs isn't a horror film, it's a Crime Drama which isn't the same category especially since it's about Buffalo 🦬 Bill who's a serial killer. But that does make me think of one of my favorite Ed Norton films Primal Fear.... So there never was a Roy, Now if that's what you think, There never was an Erin. He'd made the whole thing up so he could get away with Murder, And it worked
Two years later and this video is even more relevant now than then.
She Said how so?
direct Charge The subjects have gotten worse and haven't changed to benefit.
Luckily we got IT.
Mason Combs No, I would have to disagree. We have gotten a lot of good horror movies from smaller studios in the past year and a half.
Quespa Yeah, I agree with you. The last couple of years have been pretty good for the horror genre.
After seeing The Shining from beginning to end, I have grown a fear of hotels. That's horror to me.
Watch the room 1408.
UndyingGhost I did, another good hit to me
HHHEEERRRREESSS JONNY
Wfich version, the never version, that fucked up the story, or the older version, that fucked up the story?
***** The Kubrick Version; the point is that it was indeed a horror epic, whether or not it's faithful to the book
Agreed! Horror movies need more substance than loud bangs.
Morse Code Reviews no we need a movie that's just 90 minutes of loud bangs
**ahem* don't you mean 2 hours long?
I found the new IT boring except for two jump scares 😒
@@889Pammov And we need less CGI in the creatures and monsters too.
Pamela Haskell The CGI fucking ruined IT and made it laughable. I was so disappointed with that crap movie because the book was awesome :/
Most "modern horrors" I've seen with the jump scares I've forgotten about. The original terminator still unnerves me. Imagine being chased by something that resembles a human but isn't human, that nothing stop them, not knives, not bullets, not fire. But fire burns the darkness away, which makes it even more unnerving that it doesn't work. That it won't stop until it "gets you".
You run so hard that your legs don't work and you have to crawl, putting buildings, cars and people between it and you and it still comes for *YOU*.
That's what true horror should be, keeping you on your toes and with little predictability
That movie gave me nightmares as a kid for that reason lol
The problem with horror movies today: they're not scary
he speaks the truth!
They're not scary now because:
A) The studios want to get as big an audience as possible, so scares, gore, etc. are limited.
B) The MPAA keeps interfering.
C) Audiences in general have become a bunch of candy-asses.
OR, D) All of the above. 😀
no...you just grew up
95% of horror movies don't scare me anymore that used to (Halloween, Child's Play, Suspiria and TCM original and especially the remake) but I still consider them scary. I just grew up and I know what happens. It isn't the movies that aren't scary we've just become jaded.
I want things that are really scary to people. Not spooky halloween stuff; I'm talking mass shootings, car accidents, kidnappings, etc. If you want REAL horror, those are things that are real horror.
I really like psychological horror or that horror that don't use your human instincts to scare you. Just gives you that feeling that something isn't right.
Random Videos too much story and plot can ruin a good visceral horror movie. I don't want to be mildly disturbed watching a horror movie...i want to be beaten up by the movie.
ferox965 Agree! Sometimes it just feels like they're forcing you to be scared.
Like Sinister?
Brock cena what?
Random Videos Dude your comment just described this move! It is called 'Sinister'! You'll love it. Give it a try!
I'm getting tired of modern horror, it's all CGI, demon/ghost and jumpscares.
Corroded. Perception what happened to Jason vorhees?
OGscrubbz 69 New Line Cinema
Corroded. Perception it's because demons and ghosts are scarier than most monsters. Think about it, would you be scared of Frankenstein or a shark in a film? No they aren't scary anymore.
Project Biology But people are even scarier
Corroded. Perception and people think this movies are good, that's what makes me mad.
6 years after this video, I'll say this: This has been the best decade for horror movies of all time. The witch, The lighthouse, Hereditary, The babadook, The conjuring... absolutely great. Even the bad horror movies (Annabelle, The nun etc) are, in my opinion, far better than the bad horror movies of other decades. I'll die in this hill.
@Tom Ffrench can't agree more. the public sure have higher standards now
@Tom Ffrench, the issue is they’re all forgotten. Only the classics remain.
Maybe this video was seen and some effort was put into movies the last 6- years
Uh, did you forget about the 70s?! Halloween, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Alien, The Omen, The freaking Exorcist!
@Tom Ffrench Yeah, except the bad horror movies of the 1980s didn’t get an absurd amount of sequels and prequels that were equally as bad.
I prefer the term JumpShock. It isn't a scare, it just shocks you.
+Dżony Rambo in insidious when that thing was by the baby's crib. holy fk i was "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am glad i am not living that"
+max larsen Yeah, I don't like many horror movies because of that. A film I do like though that just builds on tension, is 28 Days Later when they're trapped in a tunnel, the tension just builds and builds as you finally see a horde of zombies come hurtling down this tunnel, it still gives me goosebumps!
+max larsen I agree. Jump''scares'' aren't scary. They're just annoying.
I've stopped watching horror movies completely because of the damn thing. It's not scary at all. It's just annoying as all hell.
+max larsen That's a good one. Here's another: Stinger. Actually, that was a term used by sound engineers for specific moments like those in the film. I've found an effective gauge for a horror movie i like to apply on the second viewing (if a film was good enough to watch a second time). Watch the film a second time with no sound. If a moment in the film still has a stinger effect, then you can generally tell a scene was shot well enough to build tension where the soundtrack only enhances the moment, rather than the moment depending on the soundtrack.
That's actually a really good point.
i haven't watched the video, but here is couple things that suck:
1. Unnessecary jumpscares.
2. Breaking the tension every two seconds by showing the monster/slasher.
3. Overall stupid story and script.
4. All the movies are just remakes.
Eetu Halmela but 'it' is good remake
Pretty much summarises the horror movies today
@Eetu Halmela: Successful horror all boils down to the effectiveness of the collaborative talent involved.
There's nothing wrong with jump-scare horror, if done well (The Descent).
There's nothing wrong with horror that isn't shy about showing the monster, if done well (The Thing).
There's nothing wrong with explicit horror, if done well (The Exorcist).
There's nothing wrong with slasher horror if done well (Psycho).
There's nothing wrong with non-scary horror, if done well (The Shining).
And origin stories. I don't care why the evil is evil, just that it's evil.
Pretty much what he said 😂
The worst horror movie I’ve ever seen is The Emoji Movie... I still shudder just thinking about it.
I think I shit myself watching that. I have PTSD from it now
I think it's a horror masterpiece, I was screaming the entire time!
If it were so horrifying that you shudder still, then it must be an amazing horror film!
Did it scare the emojis out of you?
A bad horror movie doesn't make you 'shudder'. Only a good one does.
Robert Eggers, Ari Aster, Mike Flanagan, Jordan Peele, Jennifer Kent, James Wan, Leigh Whannell. These filmmakers gave us amazing horror movies.
Forgot a lot outside of hollywood
I agree with a lot of what you said. You are right to look at box office numbers because the people with money that back the movies are interested in the profits and not the art, which is why we have so many cheaply produced jump scare movies, because the motive is the cash grab.
One point i think you missed is that its easy to focus on the crappy movies, and compare them to the classics. Being a big fan of horror I've seen some great movies in recent years, as well as the classics, but what we forget is in the era of the classics there were plenty of crappy movies that have been forgotten about. Movies like Annabell & Ouija will be forgotten, and in 10 years we may be praising this era for Oculus & Babadook.
Fantastic video Chris! Love hearing your opinions, this was a nice break from the regular reviews :-)
Dude... try and do the dare on 13Horror com
It will scare the fuck outta you.
Oculus was so bad.
xisumavoid! what are you doin here?
Hey! I watch your videos! lol
Please tell me some good horror movies of recent years? I can think of like 3
"The Witch" was another excellent movie that was panned by many movie-goers for being "not scary".
Guilherme Eddino totally. Cretins expecting a jump scare
Guilherme Eddino The Witch was shit. I had to fight myself from falling asleep.
it was okay, I feel like the story could've been a bit clearer though, it left me confused.
the Malevolent I seriously do not understand whay people mean when they say they don't understand a movie. The Witch was a very simple and straightforward plot. What did you not understand about it?
looking back at that comment, I understand the plot, I just found it pretty pointless, the gory scenes were great, I have to admit, but the whole film feels like it should be a metaphor for something, that's what confuses me.
I watched The Shining with my girlfriend not long ago and after the movie she went on a rant about how the horror movies of today are terrible and that movies like The Shining is how you do it the right way, I am verry glad I found this woman.
Shining wasn't that scary though, it was a pretty hilarious add-in to Ready Player One though
+Cole Cash
Define 'scary'
Marry her
Where did you find her? Are there more like her? :)
The Shining was as mediocre a movie as there is. It’s not scary; it’s not interesting; it’s not creepy; it’s not suspenseful. Instead of making a movie about a mans slow decent into insanity, we have a movie with Jack Nicholson being Jack Nicholson in a hotel with a couple of ghosts. Unfortunately the Kubrick fanboys jizz over this movie because they love to look for the hidden meanings. Hidden meanings that aren’t even there. But, hey, at least it was a little better than the made for tv version.
My ideas of a good horror movie
No jump scare music
Less CGI/more practical effects
Different approaches/twist that make sense
NOT GETTING SEQUELS OR REBOOTS
Likable and smart characters
Keeping the audience questing
My best advice is to set your expectations as low as possible for every movie.
The Lion King live action remake was still terrible...😔
I tried, didn't work
Best way to avoid the bad movies is to let someone else see it first, someone who has the same taste as you. So many hours saved with this easy trick. And wait, there's even more! Think about the money you save for not paying a ticket to a lousy movie. And with this ratings drops too.
THAT'S WHAT I DO!!!
true
I know this is an old video. But maybe they should just call the GOOD horror movies "Chillers". Because a movie that really gets to you - mentally, emotionally, or even skin-crawlingly physical - it gives you chills.
honestly a horror movie that i saw that really got to me is a movie called sinister, it's really psychological horror and you're constantly teased with seeing snippets of this demon and the main character trying to find out what it's about. It's a really good movie imo and it's kind of reminiscent about Insidious.
Right on. Horror can mean different things. We need different words to describe tension and scary movies versus gore fests.
I think too much plot is detrimental to a horror movie. Fear is a very basic emotion. I believe every horror movie needs a degree of viciousness...nor necessarily gore...but a good horror movie doesn't necessarily need to be cerebral...just visceral...if you don't feel beaten up, messed up or even a little dirty, then it's not a horror movie.
"if you don't feel beaten up, messed up or even a little dirty, then it's not a horror movie.
"
Sounds like a good way to sum up the poor man's horror.
Cao Cao no...all of the classics do this...The original Texas Chainsaw, Halloween, the Shining, the original Night of the Living Dead all display what I was talking about. Are these all "poor man's horror movies?". Ps...so did the Babadook.
Horror for me is something that is so unpreventable and being stuck into a difficult situation. Most horror films nowadays are just these stupid people getting themselves into stupid, preventable, situations.
Jacket lol it's just like real life. Dumb people getting into preventable bad situations 😂
"most horror films NOWADAYS"......horror for as long as i can think has been like that. If you truly like horror you have to understand and accept what you're getting into. Its going to be cheesy, its going to be unrealistic (shouldn't have to say that) and most likely have bad acting. And you have to be cool with that. Otherwise, maybe the genre isn't for you. They won't all be IT,Get Out, or Devils Candy. My opinion
I think a real horror movie that really scared that's surprising not a horror movie is fight club, when the main character wants to leave fight club but there's no where to run, because he has eyes on him everywhere. If he tries to talk about it they'll chop his balls off. I thought that was truly terrifying because like you said, you can't escape this horror
That is EXACTLY how a 2019 version of that jump scare would be. Even worse is the double jump scare.
OH MY GAWD
Nope it’s just a cat
No wait
OH MY GAAAAAWD!!!!
Wait, never mind, that was just my friend. Why did that scare me?
*OH-*
Wait, nevermind. A bird just hit my window.
*OH GOD-*
Wait, no, my dog was just messing around in the closet. Wait a minute, I don't have a dog...
*OH DEAR GOD*
Well its gonna be annoying if the jumpscare repeats all over again.
Most plots nowadays feel halfbaked and like the entire thing was written on a napkin.
Plot is largely irrelevant for horror. The point of horror is to get the audience involved with characters that are in a state of dread because they most likely will be killed. It's a basic natural feeling not something complicated to achieve requiring a grand plot. It's also why some of the best horror movies revolve around single locations because the audience doesn't have to follow unnecessary locations and additional distractions for filler.
The Shining is one of the best horror movies of all time. Like real -life horror, it seems quite normal in the beginning. Then, there’s a creeping sense of something not quite right. Watching Johnny slip into insanity is the most horrifying thing.
Unfortunately, the word “horror” has been corrupted by the offenses listed in this video. A really good psychological movie has the audience feeling acutely uncomfortable. Tension, anxiety, maybe disgust or revulsion-feeling this in a fictional, somewhat controlled setting is what makes these thrillers so cathartic. I felt all that watching the 2018 iteration of the movie IT; oddly enough, I felt really good after. It was like a reset.
2018 It? Really? Is a really cliché movie 😕 dont know why so many people liked it that much...
@Eugenia Veronica Bonsembiante. Cliche? Not at all. Remember, when IT was originally made (1984), it was kind of shocking to television viewers. Guys like King led the way. I’m not saying no one’s done it better.
I don't like horror movies (I'm a chicken/scared-cat). But I liked The Autopsy Of Jane Doe and IT :)
@@zoazede2098 Yeah,most of the cliches were born out of this movie.Take a cinema lesson kid.And learn the basics of cinematography,and great perfomances
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If the book was something original in concepts and basic structure that was in the 80' when it was wrote, not now, so it doesn't count beyond nostalgia 😑
I dont need to take classes of any kind (besides, how old are YOU to call me kid?, and even with that, you think you're superior or something 'cuz you're older? That's lame ) because a movie is based in something that old that appearently "invented" the "child group vs monster" cliché.
Besides The movie works because of jumpscares and the fact that Skarsgard's Pennywise is ugly as fuck on purpose so it can be superficially scary, and that is cheap for "the best horror film of the year".
I didnt complain that the movie has the clichés that Stephen King kinda invented for his novels, i complained about the ACTUAL HORROR MOVIES CLICHÉS, wich someone with half brains can notice, and the fact that the tone of the movie is a dissaster, and the fact that Bev is bullied because "she's a girl" is stupid even for the 80's, she could be bullied because she's a redhair, something that still happens today!!
It's 2018, and this video is still very relevant. It just always will be until there's more people willing to make some serious changes in the industry.
I have a simple explanation for you.
Most people are primitive, simple minded retards, who only go to work, party, drink, eat, sleep and fuck.
What else do you expect man?
Yeah I was gonna say the industry shouldn't really be blamed. They wouldn't be doing it if people would stop spending money to go see this garbage. People are mostly suckers of marketing/hype and even in the case of a shitty movie, people will still by tickets due to that fact.
Agreed!
That thumbnail is hilarious
I don't find jump scares scary, just jumpy due to loud sound effect
i recently tried to explain why jump scares arent actually scary to my kids while discussing some of the latest horror movies. if your friend hides in the bushes then jumps out and shouts BOO when you arent expecting it, you will likely jump and for a split second you might feel scared. is your friend scary? of course not. its closer to being surprised than it is to being scary. i told them the easiest way to tell whether its a cheap jump scare is this: if you jump and feel scared...then 2 seconds later everyone is kinda chuckling looking at each other as if to say "that one got me" then clearly in less than 2 seconds you arent scared any more. another clue is that most people can sense the jump scare coming even if they arent consciously looking for it. my wife will literally hide her face before every jump scare and when i ask why she says she knows something scary is about to happen. so.. she can close her eyes a couple times for 5 seconds and avoid the "scary" parts of the movie? so...remove 20 seconds of this movie and it wont even be scary. i prefer the "scary" to be unavoidable. i prefer it to be woven into to the story so well that you cant watch the movie while skipping the few scary parts
One of the only good jump scares is from exorcist 3 aside from that they really need to be toned down
You've nailed it. Jumpscares are so overused that they telegraph themselves now. Half the time nowadays when I'm watching a new film I sit with the remote in my hand so I can turn the volume down when I sense they're coming. One of my roommates noticed this and asked me "if you're scared why do you keep watching the movie?", to which I said "I'm not scared, I just don't like being shouted at".
saw The grudge like 10+ years ago, and the whole idea of can't getting away from her is still scaring me.
The Grudge and The Ring were both terrifying
even though the grudge has like 2 jumpscares which are not overwhelming
and that idea of a girl with black long hair with a long dress is terrifying af
@@TH-camrFaceReveals you should watch the original japanese versions : Ju on and Ringu. They are even more terrifying and will haunt you for a long time.
Try asian horror films ..( korean, japanese, thai)
Same here! I am still scared of it
The scariest things are the ones you can't see
raybojr1 "The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is the fear of the unknown" - H.P. Lovecraft
raybojr1 oxygen scares the living shit out if me
raybojr1 and the things you have to imagine.
Wait this comment is 7 years old???
How old is this video
@@_nutcracker Almost 10 years
In my opinion, foreign horror movies are much scarier.
They are. Unfortunately Stuckman rarely reviews foreign movies.
@Black lodge ~ 'Rec.' is a Spanish movie, found footage, infected zombie, very good. There is the Swedish 'Let the right one in' about a vampire girl, simple and brutal. 'Last Train to Bushan' a Korean zombie movie, pretty good. 'As Above So Below' very creepy, set in Paris not sure who made it though. 'Brain Dead' is a New Zealand movie, zombie again, funny. 'Audition' is Japanese, it's brutal, about a man than dates a terrifying young woman.
There are more but those are good.
In my opinion, Jopanese horror movies are very good at setting the unsettling mood (the most well known ones being movies like The Ring, or The Grudge [the original ones of-course]). "Audition" was a pretty scary movie and it was highly praised too. Another film I personally enjoyed was "Cold Fish", though it has so much violence and gore (it's based on a true event). For a foreign film other than Japanese, I think "Goodnight Mommy" was very well made.
But those are just some of my personal opinions and I'm not sure if they fit to your taste.
@Black lodge ~ have you seen the French movie Raw? It's a strange one. It's a coming of age movie. A young girl blossoming into ... worth a watch, it's not scary horror but it's ok.
@Black lodge "Audition". It is a Japanese movie.
The last movie to genuinely creep me out was the ring . Rated PG and you never saw anyone die .
It was PG-13 but fair enough
Damn me too
Watch “black coats daughter”
Actually, there were a few deaths in The Ring.
Chris you should make a 5 years later
follow-up video
Yep
why? Nothing has changed
"still terrible" is about all you have to add
The zombies from COD scare me more than horror films nowadays
Hehe the zombie mode from cod has more lore than 90% of the films these days
Birolk Lp more like 100 percent I tried watching a video about it and I had more anxiety that finals
Zombie from Blood is more brutal 😈
Ghouls in fallout 4 scare me more than this
Because there are actually stakes
Thats Exactly why "The Shining" wasnt well recived in theaters and reviewers (apart from being unfaithfull to the book), Its an amazing Psychological horror thriller that doesnt tell you half of whats actually going on and thanks to that, it creates a stunning atmosphere, creppy performances and disturbing thiller that doesnt go beyond fantasy or reality AND THATS THE THING THAT MAKES IT A CLASSIC
Did you actually know that back then Stanley Kubrick and Shelley Duvall were nominated for razzies? A razzie is an insult (movies like catwoman and jack and jill), and the shining is very far away from being one or one of those movies, Now its acttualy one of the best Psychological horror thriller of all time
Greppi M Yessssssssss
The razzies existed in 1980? I had no idea.
I have to admit that 2/3rds of the movie, I was a little bored, but as the madness started kikcing in all the "useless" observations I had made for the characters til then made perfect sense and I ended up watching it more than 5 times out of seer joy for the excellent mystery surrounding the plot. You couldnt guess what was going to happen and I loved that. (I hadnt read the book before watching the movie)
The same thing happens to the thing (1980)
*REQUIEM FOR A DREAM* (disturbing)
*THE SHINING*
*THE OTHERS*
*THE SIXTH SENSE* (my fav)
Were some good horrors
*THE THING*
I'd say RfaD is more of a psychological drama than a horror.
The Ring
I love the others. That movie is so underrated.
THE OMEN
I think Jumpscares should be banned. I mean I get "scared" when someone farts very loud, when my dog barks suddenly without a reason, when I ride my bike and a fly flies into my mouth. Thats just a reflex, not fear. Fear builds up slowly. True Horror is when you look for too long into the darkness and you start recognizing something that was there all along, especially when you see its eyes staring at you.
Salem Baron jumpscares can be good if they are setting up a scene, and then something scary actually happens after. Not just a senseless noise. And they can’t be overdone either.
Yeah, movies should at least be required to state how many jump scares they have. Like, no jump scares, very few jump scares, some, many, and very many. I dislike being startled, and I’m very easily startled, so anything other than no jump scares is just daily life for me.
I just read ur comment in the dark , im afraid now. Help
right?
It's like, these modern "scares" are the equivalent to being in a dark room and something clearly jumps out and goes "BOO!" - they're halloween haunted houses.
Real horror is staring into a dark room, slowly convincing yourself that something is staring back - and the thought haunts you so much that you start to see it in other dark places afterwards...
The most pretentious pile of shit I’ve ever read.
Yes, every word you say is true. Good modern horror is a rare thing.
Quick example: after watching HEREDITARY i was mentally quite fine and was praising the film for its quality, cinematography and understanding of true horror.
But then I woke up that night and couldn't sleep for like 40 minutes straight. All the questions left in my mind were creating genuine horror hours and hours afterwards, as I was spiralling deeper into the world of Hereditary.
I live with an entire family of 'jumpscare junkies' send help
NyanAlpakaJesus 0 even my classmates
What - do they force you to watch jump scare movies?
@@aaakliuciami every horror we watch is just jumpscared, we saw the Babadook once. I loved it but they said "it was crap it didnt make me scared"
How do I retweet on youtube
@@Unknown-ug9cf Cause they don't know the difference between being scared and being creeped out.
Jumpscares are scary only because you don't expect them, so you're taken aback (although you can usually expect a jumpscare).
Being creeped out is something that goes deeper than a momentary, intense fright. It is a very cheap way of scaring people, especially when there's a scarce character and plot structure and development.
What really creep me out, for example, are slow shots with very subtle details, but still quite detectable. Something hidden from a naive and distracted mind, but if you look closely, the danger is right behind you, or just in front of you. But you don't see it at first. You keep doing your things, while someone follows each one of your steps and moves.
Sinister, strident music plays a vital role, as the protagonist is consumed by angst and fear, and you feel those same emotions.
By the way, I loved Babadook, and The Witch too. I wouldn't consider them masterpieces though, but they are definitely better than cheap, ghost films.
To me jump-scare is the cheapest way to put a scare on a viewer watching the movie. True horror is to make the viewer feel scared by the atmosphere of the movie itself, not rely on scare by having something lunge at the screen accompanied by a loud music sting/sound effect.
You know when you go to cinemas and you have to wait a while for even the trailers to start? Sometimes they just play music while you wait. Instead, they should show videos likes this.
Then people would realize how horribly dissapointing most new horror films are.
That would actually be so cool! I'd go to movies early just to watch these then haha
+ConDom While I agree with you, I think dominant media is very, very, *very* selective and careful about what they'll show in certain public places, specifically movie theaters. Especially when the source is from an "anyone-can-put-their-opinion-in" community like TH-cam. See, the public is *sooo* freakin PC that everyone's too concerned about not hurting anyone's feelings and putting up "safe zones" where no bitch and a half will get all triggered and offended. If they played this surprisingly educational segment at a theater, a lot of people would probably get butt hurt because it would reflect on their movie-going choices and it would actually be bad for the big-screen business. It's because of this reason that the movies won't show the audience something logical or educational. Both fields have *some* sort of bias trailing behind them, and a lot of businesses today don't *like* bias.
+ConDom Excellent business idea.
+ConDom That would be awesome. I once was shopping in Miami and went to a cinema at the mall and arrived 1 hour before because I was on a trip on forgot to change the time. They played 40 minutes of commercial and shitty music. But it was cool I watched some netflix alone
So-called “horror” movies that only have jump-scares are the equivalent of comedy movies that only have fart jokes.
It gets old fast.
Chris, I agree with you. I am SO SICK of cliche horror, such as dumb teenagers, creature features, and constant jump scares. I think madness movies should be the new horror. From The Shining to Oculus, insanity creates REAL fear in people. And Blair With and Paranormal Activity were also madness films. Even Jaws did well, for it was not just the monster shark, but how the movie got inside our heads, that made it so scary. Take Lifetime movies, which are designed to install complete fear of men into naive women; these TV movies are cheesy, but are able to manipulate those who let them. Horror that truly gets inside your head is what people should expect in cinema, not those "scare Betty Lou in the 57 T-Bird" cliches.
Have you ever seen "Vertigo" by good ol' Alfred Hitchcock? If not you missed the one major insanity movie of all time. ;)
Only 4 times now!
Justin, that is about the summary of it. For it is said that Hollywood is overloaded with "directors" who can't even direct traffic. Well, I know I can direct traffic, and even more than that.
You have to be careful, though, because psychological madness films also have some pretty shitty clichéd entries. "*I* was the killer all along?!?!" "All the supernatural stuff was just in the protagonist's head!", etc.
I do agree with you, BUT not all horror movies are supposed to scare you, a lot of creature features are there to watch for pure fun of watching people get destroyed
The Babadook scared the shit out of me. I didn't get the association with depression and all that deeper stuff. As a monster movie, it still scared the crap out of me even when they didn't actually show the monster. The book reading to the mother's child was like !!!!!! THAT really freaked me out how the book story changed.
I totally agree. Jump scares are cheap and leave me feeling disrespected by the film makers. A good horror film shouldn't leave me feeling irritated. Instead, I want to be looking over my shoulder on my way back home. I want to be haunted by information presented to me, not startled by a loud sound.
He makes a good point with jump scares working with what is supposed to scare you instead of it being a false scare.
PG-13 Horror movies should be illegal.
The Titan
Well, in Germany movies like "unknown user" or sth are available for 12 year olds, and I watched that movie with my mother, who was scared ( she easily gets scared tho) like damn, and we both, once the movie was over, walked out there, discussing the fact that this shit is "ok" for 12 year olds. when I see these kids at my school, I would never believe they'd be able to watch any horror movies without shitting their pants.
I was shocked reading that Unknown User is okay for 12 year-olds (I'm 25 and was disgusted and horrified by that movie) and checked online - the wikipedia page says that it was initially published with a FSK 12 (June 2015) but revisited in October 2015. Now it's FSK 16 which is way more appropriate (still too young imo but better).
MaschaDraws I Think 16+ is ok but still, I know some older people who were scared of this movie, and I think every horror movie should be 18+. Sounds a little bit too much and people under 18 will probably be against it, but I personally think that's justified. You can't define (is that a word lol) someones fear by their age. But if someone's 18+ they might be more ok with being scared.
I am 14 years old and I look like 12 and most horror movies where I live are 15+ (They never let me see horror movies bc I look like 12) and my friends look like 17 so I pretend I'm the-awkward-little-brother-who-likes-to-be-with-his-big-brother *brother*
YOUR PROFILE PIC SHOULD BE A HORROR MOVE LIKE DAMN
Jumpscaring being used for horror movies is like tickling the audience as a comedian. Your just taking advantage of the natural instincts of humans, not genuine fear.
Someone made the exact same analogy as you, a month ago. Coincidence?
and in terms of effort, it's the same as making a fart joke in a comedy
Nice try tryna steal something.
Stolen comment
Cobalt *Blue Stickman* Eh, who gives a shit...
Hell yeah. The babadook is one of my favorite movies of all time. Its deep, thought provoking, and beautifully symbolic of real-world psychological torment. Truly a peace of art. But definitely not for those looking for cheap thrills. If this movie were a painting, it would be one which the viewer HAS to observe with deep thinking rather than a passing glance.
The Babadook is proof that horror movies aren't dead just yet.
Lol true, they just went underground.
The Babadook and Oculus were GREAT!
Yeah, but 'it follows' is proof that the creators are running out of ideas... I mean, come on, a sexually transmitted ghost!? Wtf😂
Maybe their like the creators of the big bang theory, their just lazy and want to see what they can get away with.
Count Conjuring 2 to that list!
I want a film to make me feel anxious. it needs to be creepy not jump scary.
The second half of the sixth sense
Creepy isn't horror. Creepy isn't going to snuff the characters. There has to be a legit threat otherwise it's not a good horror movie.
im not that surprised oculus is on the list. its not really scary but it still decent compared to the other predictable modern horror movies
A creepy movie without jumpscares is the witch. There you go. Keep on mind that the movie is not so scary is creepy.
For me, a true horror movie makes you feel paranoid and sleepless.
Here's a cliched horror film: Opening scene shows origin of spirit/demon/monster, dumb teenagers check out house/forest with said creature, jumpscare by friend, another teenager stupidly unleashes something without caution, friend disappears/dies, friends argue about what happened, another person dies, friends suddenly become unstoppable and join forces, blood spurts out, jumpscares, jumpscare, spirit/demon/monster is now gone, friends move out, final jumpscare. Here's how to fix that: don't use jumpscares too much, don't rely heavily on gore, use more suspense and darkness and silence, but NO JUMPSCARES, don't use teenagers as main characters.
I had always thought I had no spine when it comes to horror films because I hate haunted houses (in amusement parks), hate being jumped and/or scared and quite literally just the thought of a clown under my bed is enough to cost me my sleep, so I avoided them altogether. When I went to see "Sinister" with a friend in the cinema, the creature (?)'s image haunted my mind so bad that I couldn't sleep until 7 am the next day, so I was even more convinced that horrors just weren't for me. Then last week I went to see "The Conjuring 2" in cinema after hearing numerous praises from Chris and Jeremy Jahns, other critics and fans alike, hoping and exciting for a good scare (I was in the mood to be scared), and... I was gravely disappointed. Of course there's that one scene (which I won't spoil) that is the definite highlight, it was really scary that made me peaked at the screen through my fingers, but in the end I felt nothing, I was even so distracted by the end of the film that I started my habitual nitpicking, the demon didn't make a heavy impact on me like the creature in "Sinister", in fact no impact was made at all. Then I realized that I'm not a spineless little shit, it's just that for my virginal horror experience, I had a well-made horror film in the best setting possible (the cinema). Thinking about the state of horrors nowadays, that revelation is quite sad actually.
Yesss
Totally...I got bored of those clichés! Why teenagers all the time? And why they have to be that stupid? I like the most films makes you feel afraid of being alone,checking your back or some effect like that AFTER watching the movie!
The industry used to rely on slow building tension. Sure, stuff would happen to make you feel insecure or tense (a side character dying or a ramp up in antagonist activity) but it was softer. Not about being scared but building to something more. Atmosphere and subtly are the keys to being actually decent (not the best, but they're the bedrock of the genre).
jumpscares can work. even after repeated viewings. it's just that filmmakers make jumpscares too obvious. a truely sudden appearance of a monster can be nerve racking.
I was so god damn mad when I read the comments on IMDb for Hereditary. “This was literally he worst movie I have ever seen... why where all those naked people standing around!” 🤬🤬🤬Hereditary was perfect.
Agreed! That movie freaked me out more than any jumpscares will. So well done, I love the themes throughout.
Same here, Hereditary is a masterpiece of horror, where is the Oscar for Toni Collette? That film is so creepy I haven't been able to make myself watch it again.
Then I hear people Curse of La Llorona is scary, Annabelle is scary and so on... WTF!
i get having an opinion but calling Hereditary the worst movie ever is just idiotic
Comparing sex to horror movies is the best analogy ever
The f2p Pyro Anal Orgie!
It's the oldest comparison to good horror directing and is undeniable
A good horror movie is not the ones which make you jump out of the seat. The good horror movie is the ones scares you even after the movie is ended. Small fears we carry back to home.
Sinister
How about also Unnecessary sex scenes and gore.
Also it's always the same type of characters, for fucksakes they even look the same!
Yeah the couple who is looking for some place to fuck always gets kilt first smh is a fucking cliche at this point.
Hence, Cabin in the Woods.
Sex scenes feels little bit forced. Not gonna say anything about gore because I'm big sucker for it but it really can be little bit out of place too. You are right, they almost looks same too, no wonder they looked so familiar always : D
TheCrystalStyx sooo true
Gores alright because its a HORROR movie but the sex scenes are really bad
I LOVED Babadook. Wonderfully acted and deeper than your typical surface level monster. One of my favorites for putting you uncomfortably off center just with the mother/son relationship right off the bat.
I. Hate. Jump. Scares.
James wan loves them
Except in every horror game everrrrrrrr.......
Only one I've seen that I've appreciated, is the only in the first insidious. Where it's just that face behind the lady. Ugh that things face was terrifying when I was young
@@larrypoppins6273 The most unnerving game I have ever played, American McGee's Alice, has literally zero jump scares, yet that game gave me endless nightmares and still makes me uncomfortable when I think of it even after more than a decade has passed.
Also Silent Hill 2 is often regarded as one of the best horror games ever made, yet it has very few jump scares.
What’s also bothering me personally, is that we rarely get human villains in horror anymore. It’s all just paranormal stuff that quite frankly I don’t care about, because that is the cheapest basis for horror. Remember Hannibal Lecter & Buffalo Bill? They had some motivation behind their actions (mainly mental illness), and that made them feel real to me, because people like that, unlike ghosts, do exist in real life. And that’s the terrifying thing.
It’s like the thing with magic. Magic has no real boundaries wich on one hand can make it scary, but on the other hand is just uninspired, and (as of now) painfully predictable most of the time.
Now, I’m not saying all paranormal and supernatural horror is rubbish. It’s just that I wish that we as an audience could get both fleshed out main characters and villains again, that aren’t just some idiots in an abandoned house vs. an eViL sPiRiT whose only motivation is to haunt people because...well...they are in my house! How dare they!
Schokii Lade Would you consider Silent Hill paranormal? Silent Hill 2, Especially, is the peak of psychological horror to me.
But since you are living it by playing it, instead of watching, you are more likely to suspend your disbelief.
Edge9404 did you just.... call....... silent hill 2 a good movie??? It’s a good game, but movie???
Hannibal didn’t have a mental illness, he was just traumatized be his childhood, I mean being chained up in the cold, having your family killed, then seeing your little sister cooked and eaten would mess anyone up, it’s traumatization not mental illness.
Thomas5256 talking about the game, not the movies
Film makers and audience goers need to realize horror doesn't just mean scary. It means suspense, dread, fear, and terror. Horror films don't have to be scary to be classified under horror.
For me, horror is bad things happen to good people I sympathise with. Whatever happened to that approach to horror?!
That's a pretty good way to look at it.
Dwagin it depends on your taste, but i hate useless killing too. I rather watch two persons go crazy about 'something mentally torturing them for the whole movie.
Yeah for example Scream wasn't scary at all but it was a fking awesome movie!! Same with A Nightmare On Elm Street movies, entertaining af and they don’t try to scare the audience the whole time. I've NEVER wanted to rewatch any modern horror movie I've seen, they are just boring, repetitive and predictable, zero creativity.
People's go see Horror films cos they want to be scared, feel Fear and see something scary.. Same thing for Haunted Houses you want to be scared...
My favorite tactic to replace the jumpscare is to use dramatic irony. Let the audience see something spooky or dangerous that the character can't. The Haunting of Hill House makes great use of this. It also uses the reverse strategy of showing the ghost's eye view, where you see the look of fear long before you see the cause of it, but then the camera tracks back and pivots to a side view of the character and the ghost. I find it clever when either the audience or the character - but not both - can see the threat. The former generates a sense of "get out of there, it's right behind you!", the latter more of a "oh god, what terrifying thing are you seeing that I'm not?".
I think Hereditary was terrifying. I felt so unsettled the whole time
Pixeldoll l I watched it a couple months ago and it was one of the best horror films I’ve seen in a while. Really tense atmosphere, shocking moments, disturbing imagery, great direction, and realistic acting. I remember feeling anxious and tense just by hearing the music during the opening credits. The most unforgettable moment was probably the scene involving Charley. I just sat there in shock unable to comprehend it properly
Crazy scary movie. It gave me anxiety.
Eric S this is what the guy in the video is talking about....
That one stuck with me for a long time.
Agree, one of the more terrifying films I've watched in recent times.
They actually did show the monster in The Babadook. In the book.
Also in the woman's imagination
***** How was it a failure?
***** Hmm, I think you're the only one who disliked the movie.
+Emperor Palpatine Oh no, I also thought it was a horrible movie.
+Rosalyn Rainwater
1. Can't argue about this. This is something each and everyone needs to decide for himself.
2. Here I disagree strongly, there are a lot of examples where showing the monster improves the horror-experience. But it really depends on what the viewer is interested in, most of the time, the viewer will be disappointed if the monster won't ever be shown to them. Never showing the monster, works imo only in psychological horror-movies, but even then people will be interested in the physical manifestation of the monster/horro. Also, I have no Idea what pterodactyls sound like, for me these are noises I never heard before -> underlines the creepiness by confronting with something unknown
3. While the Kübel-Ross model is well know for what you said. It's an copping mechanism which ca be used in all kinds of situations. In pretty much every situation where you lose or lost something it's applicable. And let's not forget that symbolism can be displayed in various/abstract ways.
But I know how arguing on TH-cam is, and I'm sure I can't change your view on the movie. So no hard feelings about this. :)
I stand by the fact that jump scares are straight up killing the horror genre.
exaaaaactly!!! jump scares just trigger reflexes. You might get scared like that even in a comedy. There isn't really any atmosphere any more or disturbing concepts that haunt you afterwards.
yesssss, i've turned to Asian horror, because there's a lot, more suspence and rarelly any jump scares, I saw The Neon Demon last week, i don't know how that movie is horror, it just made me disgusted,
but can't watch Tale of Two Sisters, The Grudge, Audition or Dumplings, they make me unconfortable, scared and on edge.
Jump scares serve a purpose when used scarcely. A jump scare can cause tension by having the audience's guard up. Off the top of my head, Mulholland Drive had an excellent jump scare.
Definitely! Jump scares can be good, but if it's the only actually scary thing of a film, or overused, it ruins everything
I feel the same way about both Insidious and Conjuring. Two of my favorite modern horror films. Both of those movies created such a creepy atmosphere that had me looking around my house. I also agree with you on the Babaduck too.
"Babaduck!" Lol: Quack, quack, QUACK"
@@101keiffer lmao
“Babaduuccckkk. Quaccckk. QUUUUAAAAACCCCKKKKK.”
Many people, like the comment in the video, say that imagination is a childish thing, yet it's our own imagination that terrifies us the most. "Childish" shouldn't be the term given to imagination. As you grow older, you lose a lot of the creativity and imagination you had as a kid, yes, but a child's mind can be full of incredibly horrifying things. I remember watching secretly from behind the couch as my mum put on horrors, and afterwards would be terrified of going down the dark hallway to my bedroom, my mind going wild with fucking terrifying images, so vivid they might as well be hallucinations, flashing at me from the blackness of the hall. For the next few weeks, every night would be spent trying to go to sleep, but closing or covering my eyes would cause monsters and creepy, morphing faces to appear, but opening my eyes would cause the objects in my peripheral vision to warp and move, and so my eyes would be darting around the room, wanting to get out of there or scream, but petrified at the creatures in my mind moving towards and around me, so I can only sit there, terrified, waiting for something to grab me. Even after you mostly recover, you never quite feel safe and alone in your own room at night. You always feel as if something, or someone is looking at you sleeping from a dark corner of the room, or staring in at you from that small gap in the wardrobe, or lying down, hiding under your bed, waiting for you to fall asleep. If an adult had the imagination of a kid, they would most likely go insane with paranoia. Imagination is not to be taken lightly, it is a very powerful thing.
I had a similar experience when I was like 8 years old, and it wasn't even a full moive. It was a movie TRAILER about a monster that lives in the cabinet. I don't even remember what the monster looks like, but I could still recall myself shivering under the blanket, trying not to make a sound, even though I was literally sharing the same bed as my parents, and we don't even have a cabinet that large (we were poor back then). It's my imagination that became my biggest enemy, and it tortured me for weeks before I could relax.
Totally agree with your comment! Kind of what I wanted to say and you put it perfectly!
My sister, who is 13 years older than me, made me watch “The Shining” when I was 5 years old and constantly say “Tommy” and “Redrum” in that creepy voice to make her friends laugh. What scarred me the most was for YEARS I thought that woman/creature was in my bathtub behind the shower curtain. I can remember even through my teens once in awhile that scene would pop in my head and I would HAVE to look behind the curtain. When I watch horror now I stop thinking about it in a day, but I believe “The Shining” has stuck with me so long because I was so little when I watched it. The only movies that really scared me for a few days as an adult was probably “The Babadook” and “VHS”, and as a teen “Jeepers Creepers” used to scare the shit out of me! Haha!
@Toby Thurlow White: If you don´t go into writing of some sort, your talent is wasted. That was amazing. Loved reading this bit. Really did ... very vivid and imaginative!
Toby Thurlow White one time when I was around 6 years old I was having a hard time on an escalator and I was just trying to walk back up it backwards but it just kept going down and I was terrified. I imagined myself falling and hitting my head on the escalator and it would just keep going down and down as I was in agony. Ever since then I’ve avoided escalators at all costs and now that I’ve been exposed to more violent gory stuff I reimagined that thought about ten times worse.
the most problem is the misleading trailers... or.. trailers in general..
true... people not interested anymore in anything... must put the level higher.. but in this case the magic will be lost
Many movies have very little story to be told, so a two minute trailer tells it all and watching the movie is a waste of time.
Exactly. Misleading trailers are disingenuous bullshit.
The adage "people don't know what they want until you give it to them" is so goddamn true. I'm sick of focus groups and marketing-driven films, and even more depressing is knowing that it gets butts in seats, so why should Hollywood change their approach?
Yes absolutely! Whatever you say. You should move back here to Los Angeles and change it. :D
ciyean I admit, sometimes I miss SoCal. But I don't think I could afford to move back, let alone rent an apartment! :p
Amelia Bee Yeaaa, thing is that no one can afford it, even the people that live here lol. :(
I live in Hollywood hills, I've forgotten what it's like to pay cheap rent. On the flip side everyone is very happy here; it's like collective rent suffering brings us all together!
I would say don't worry about what mainstream does. Just focus on watching directors and writers material you like and give them support by buying their stuff. I am very picky about what movies I watch in theaters but I don't go crazy and watch everything for free or close to it as it kinda defeats the purpose of getting more good movies made.
I know how it feels. I went to a screening of Jaws and when I was leaving the theater, I heard a couple of teenagers saying "I thought they'd never show the shark."
One of my favorite movies is The Exorcist... I still remember screaming in my head "Don't go up the stairs!" And then they'd peak in the door... now THAT is scary.
The only tension I feel before a jump scare is knowing that each time they happen I lose part of my hearing. I hate when scare cords are done excessively, it's not scary, it's just annoying
One day some idiot family moved into a house but little did they know the previous resident was the Xenomorph Queen that accidentally left her eggs there and the whole family got facehug'd, then the Xenomorph Queen remembers she left her eggs there, rushes back to get them but the whole family has already died and now there are an equal amount of normal Xenomorphs, and they say "Fuck it", sell the house again and moves in the Alien Queen's apartment the end.
Hai Spawner 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000/10
Oscar Winning movie Idea
Hai Spawner That actually is a more coherent story than most horror films this decade.
You're profile pic says it all XD
Haispawner cut and print!
As many jump scares as there were in Sinister, I still feel it was an incredible horror film, that was ruined by its trailer
and it's ending.
Kyle Donaldson By ending do you literally mean the last shot in the film that's just a retarded jumpscare? Or how the narrative ended? SPOILERS them dying?
The entire ending felt out of place and cheesey to me....like the last 5 minutes.
Kyle Donaldson I liked how it served him right for taking things too far, it was unlike all the other cliche hollywood horror films nowadays where the all live at the end.
John Riley *SPOILERS* Showing the kids at all was a pretty big let down. The cheese of them dancing around earlier in the film just felt out of place. The ending was also pretty weak, they showed the "main horror" in a such a way was far less scary then the rest of the film.
In most horror movies, (that I’ve seen at least) there’s sex scenes, which really ruins it for me, I’m here for horror, NOT porn, I’ve heard people ascribe a voyeuristic aspect to horror movies, but I *really* don’t like watching two characters have sex, it always happens though.
So, in short, most horror movies are overly sexual and it pisses me off.