The Atheist Experience 702 with Matt Dillahunty and Russell Glasser
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- The Atheist Experience 702 from March 27, 2011, with Matt Dillahunty and Russell Glasser.
Matt and Russell have a conversation "across the divide" with professional apologist Ray Comfort.
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00:44- Intro & Announcements - Matt Dillahunty
02:46- Ray Comfort (theist): claims to have found absolute truth, believing in an invisible force, sees design everywhere he looks, science is uncertain, common sense scientifically demonstrates God, the theory of evolution is not scientific, claims the hosts know God exists, abortion rights, Harold Camping's prediction about the end of the world
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2:46- Ray Comfort (theist): claims to have found absolute truth, believing in an invisible force, sees design everywhere he looks, science is uncertain, common sense scientifically demonstrates God, the theory of evolution is not scientific, claims the hosts know God exists, abortion rights, Harold Camping's prediction about the end of the world
@just some guy what would the point be of hating something I don't believe is real? I don't hate Batman *or* The Joker any more than I hate Superman or Lex Luthor, Harry Potter or Voldemort, or god or the devil. Furthermore, atheism and theism refer to belief, while agnosticism and gnosticism refer to knowledge.
@just some guy What's your point? That one former atheist believes that atheism (which is a lack of belief) is a religion? And this makes sense to you?
I don't base my life on either of the aforementioned characters are real. That was the point of my comparison.
@just some guy No, they just hate religion because it's such a harmful lie.
The Atheist Experience, verified user. . 5 days ago. . 2:46- Ray Comfort (theist): claims to have found absolute truth, believing in an invisible force, sees design everywhere he looks, science is uncertain, common sense scientifically demonstrates God, the theory of evolution is not scientific, claims the hosts know God exists, abortion rights, Harold Camping's prediction about the end of the world. 7 replies. 5 likes.
well read the gospels then..
john 18 37 Then Pilate said to him, “So you are a king?” Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. For this purpose I was born and for this purpose I have come into the world-to bear witness to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth listens to my voice.”
We have found truth. The things is that you want us to explain it to you but that is just not the way. You have to accept and confess Christ first and humilliate yourself in prayer to see the truth. But this something you are just not willing to do. If you don't want too, then remain ignorant and asking questions all your life.
Ray is my Hero, as you can see. His effectiveness in spreading atheism is unmatched.
Hi Ray. Nice performance in the show.
Spreading?
k lovell fastest growing demographic nationally in america and many other countries
Here's a question the ape men can't answer; How many accidents in a shirt factory, would make it start producing trousers?
The point is it doesn't matter, how many superficial changes are made to a thing, it don't turn it into a different... kind of thing. ( kind means sort, set or type, (yes we can have different kinds of shirts and different kinds of trousers. But that doesn't make them the same 'kind', of clothing items.))
You can try wearing trousers on your head and shirts on your bottom. That might have a negative impact, on the chances of successful reproduction. This is a good example of typical Evolution logic. And shows how willfully absurd and self refuting Evolution and Atheism are.
Another question the apetards can't answer, is Why are all the fossils, supposedly millions of years old? Where are all the various stages, of fossilisation to be found?
Think about this for 5 mins. Well better make that 5 hours, knowing how retarded and backwards they are. I won't be surprised if 50 years isn't long enough. For these underdeveloped, brain stunted and bigoted, runts of Evolution. (This is me being extremely polite).
One of the reasons we bury our dead, is so wild animals don't scavenge the carcasses.
If fossilisation was a gradual process, as we're led to believe by the apetards. Burial wouldn't be as necessary and there would be many many, more human fossils. The fact there are so few human fossils. Is proof the theoretical, Evolutionary hypothesis, is utterly and unquestionably wrong. And the humans had the help of being buried when they died.
I'm not an expert on dinosaurs, but I don't think they, had any help to be buried. Other than by God's global flood. This is THE, only possible plausible explanation.
Mystery solved, Case closed. Can we all go home now?
Hallelujah! Praise God, Amen.
Iaharl sama, Does Evolution require countless genetic accidents, yes or no?
Are you willfully ignorant about the fossils? Or just plain stupid? There are many fossils of creatures alive today. But they're never found, in the mid stages of fossilisation.
Your pithy hollow objections, are as mindless as you are. Go home bact to the jungle and see how well you survive, Mr Ape Man. How do you like dem bananas?
Saying "Evolution is a fairy tale for adults" is fucking hilarious coming from a christian.
Once upon a time.........
@Jegekim
It is and I am a Christian. Mainly because how can something verified by genetic and paleontology studies be a fairy tale?
@@kentonbaird1723
It's not just flat-earthers, as there are also a small portion of Millenials and Zoomers that have a contradictory belief that gender is a societal construct, thus gender doesn't exist, and that there are more than two genders, as the last number I heard was like 49.
And with these people being atheists too, it furthers my understanding that knowledge and wisdom are not innate, but earned...
@@kentonbaird1723
Because Christian though I am, I bear the sins of bitterness and cynicism. I lost hope in humanity ages ago, and as a result learned a harsh truth. Be it God or man, humans need a master. Flat Earthers, and the other groups I mentioned proved that much, as they rely on not science and reason, but whatever sounds good to them from man's lips.
And for the record I learned ages ago that Christians are no better, as they too are swayed by the whims of men claiming to speak for God.
@@DemonicRemption The Bible is literally men claiming to speak for God.
"when somone truly becomes a christian, they move out of the realm of intellect" - Ray Comfort
Yep. I will be using that quote frequently.
Something supernatural happens to you, it is not something you can prove when nonbelievers say personal experiences don't matter.
@@ericaprice3987 It matters not. He DID say exactly this....verbatim.
@@American-Plague you are right about that.
"Realm of intellect" is nothing more than fallacy and you don't need PhD to prove that. Look at past and on all BIG THINKERS who were famous during their times. Most of them failed to deliver anything despite delusions. Don't get me wrong, intellect is the only tool that we can use in order to move through our physical world that we can perceive, but physical world is not the only thing exist in our universe, so trying to create world view based on intellect that is capable of perceiving only small fraction of frequencies in the world, is just foolish.
I swear if he came up as a normal caller and not a planned conversation, Matt would have hung up on him 50 minutes ago.
It was nine years ago. Think Matt lost alot of patience since :P
@@bert.hbuysse5569 I mean do you blame the guy? He's been hearing the same tired argument every week for 9 years. I would have stopped doing the show if I was in his shoes.
@@justaguy6216 Don't blame him at all. Then again I think nobody is holding a gun to his head telling him to do it either :)
@@bert.hbuysse5569 That's true. He's doing this because that's what he believes he should be doing. So he keeps at it. I may not always agree with how he does things but I do have a lot of respect from him.
He said it himself. The point if this show is to make Atheists irrelevant. Where the word doesn't need to exist to describe people. Just like we don't refer to people who don't play golf as agolfers.
I would've hung up on him even though it was planned
6:02 “And thats what happens when someone becomes a Christian. They move out of the realm of intellect”
- Ray Comfort
He clearly means "You move out of needing to prove something into feeling it exists due to direct experience"
He just worded it badly
@@ThepPixel or it was a Freudian slip where he accidentally spoke the literal truth
@@ThepPixel Honestly, that doesn't sound too much better either.
@@btat16 Absolutely! The addendum "He just worded it badly" had me laughing heartily. Then I stopped laughing, realizing that's a very unhealthy/unproductive way to think about the world.
When Ray says that evolution is a fairy tail for adults it means subconsciously he knows his religion is actually a fairy tail for adults.
I think more likely he says it to be inflammatory, to make the person he's conversing with jump on that obvious bait and change the course of the discussion, he does this multiple times through the call anytime the conversation is veering towards territory he has no predetermined counter-argument for
As a Born Again I can relate 100% with what Ray says as when you get to experience Christianity, because before experiencing it for myself I was agnostic/spiritual and came from an atheist background and Jesus really did prove me wrong. It's how you choose to really leave the world's stereotypes behind and do some research of your own. Now many atheists/scientists cannot prove that God does not exist the same way THEY can't prove that he does exist, therefore, their argument is not absolute neither. Now this 'fairytale' as you refer to it inspired billions of people across the world, it has formed our morality of what's right and what's wrong and countless legal systems follow the 10 commandments and the ones that don't follow them usually end up being corrupted. I also understand why people would get the wrong impression of christianity since it's not taught the correct way and many people that claim to be christians are acc producing an unfair image of us while astraying from what's actually said in the Bible with their own interpetations. Me myself, I would find a lot of parts of the Bible problematic, so I would do plenty of research and ask people that actually studied and knew the field, and very easily I would find my answers there that would made absolute sense.
@@mariapapaioannou1727 Exactly what laws are based around the 10 commandments?? I know in America the last time I checked, making graven images was still legal...
@@Pohgrey Never said based. I typed 'inspired', and 'follow'. Not the same thing. And yea wasn't only referring to America. This is why I said there's a lot of misconceptions. If someone has read the Bible or fully understood christianity outside of the stereotypes and still chose not to believe it then okay it's their choice, we all have freedom of choice last time I checked even christians. But people just making up stereotypes and misconceptions from what they hear around and just painting christians to be non-logical and believing in fairy tales just does not really sit right with me.
@@mariapapaioannou1727 but they do. I'm an ex-theist and it is just a fairy tale. It's a story with no proof, no grounding in reality and no written original copy, and no eye witnesses. It's a fairy tale.
At the risk of sounding judgmental, Ray Comfort seems like a man who's genuinely limited in the capacity for honest reasoning.
I’ll say it. He’s stupid. Watch him walk up to random strangers and harass them.
@Scott Scotty Yep, all that free $ in the name of Je$u$.
he is, intelligence can only see as far as itself.
He’s a man who seems happy to embrace many versions of the truth, as long as they all agree with him !
He's not limited. He's just dishonest.
Whenever I feel like an idiot, I watch this clip to lift my spirits.
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Debating creationists is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon - it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.
Haha... Brilliant ..!!
Lol, that really made my day.
lol, awesome quote...
LOL!
Fuck u man. I just shit my pants from laughing so hard XD
Ray Comfort is the most underrated comedian ever!
Daniel Wagner What is wrong with Jesus. Why is following His teaching of forgiveness and love so bad? What teaching of His so evil that you don't want to follow Him? Who or what do you follow and why? God bless
Ginger Hoffman BIBLEBOT!! There's nothing wrong with "loving" Jesus. but teaching lies like creationism at a science class is just yet another reason to hate Jesus and religion in general!
Ginger Hoffman
"What is wrong with Jesus. Why is following His teaching of forgiveness and love so bad?"
The followings are his teaching of forgiveness and love:
Mathew 10:37: "Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me."
Matthew 10:34: "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."
Such forgiveness, such love!
MaxwellsDemon if that's the best you got against the teachings of rabbi Yeshua, it's pretty weak. where specifically does he do something immoral -- or advocate a specific immoral act?
N Marbletoe
"where specifically does he do something immoral -- or advocate a specific immoral act?"
I was talking about "forgiveness" and "love", NOT "immoral act". Can't you read?
"I don't want to believe something based on faith." - Ray Comfort
Seriously man? You're Christian...
This is the same line of thinking that leads to books like "I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist." I actually used to think like that. I would even say that line.
Don't feel bad I was an evengelist Baptist you can't even imagine the bull shit I came up with.
Ray seems to say whatever will sound good in the isolation of the minute he is talking in.
He's constantly looking for soundbyte crafted little "sayings" to throw in.
As soon as you step back and look at each "argument", you realise he just assembles them from stock, borrowed easy to recall statements without ever seriously critically analysing them.
As you break each one open in front of him... He scurries back into his viscous mind to find more, so that he doesn't have to watch his paper thin logic being destroyed.
It's a "defence of belief using volume of distracting vomit" method.
Rat does this all because he's SO terrified to stop and think, and because there are scared people who congratulate him for it.
I was like Ray once, I was an evengelist Christian. What scared me most was when an a person came along who had logical and sensible reasons not to believe. I wish I had met Matt Dillahunty back then it would have sped up my transition away from religion.
i think it was said this way: "i don't want to believe...blah blah blah...something based on faith" clearer?
"Religion started when the first conman met the first idiot."
Who said this?
Mark Twain
That's clever bill! I think atheism started because humans are jealous, conceited, narcissistic,egotistical and self obsessed, your post shows that pretty good
@@adamdouglas5596 Thanks mate .
The good Athiest .Mark Twain
said it.
@@philip9083 that's clever mark twain, you should quote albert pyke while your at it! Albert Einstein - "I believe in God, who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of the universe" or "The more I learn about science the more I believe in God" einstein knew about creation and God but he didn't believe in a personal God, have a good day man
Rays most famous quote:
"The banana bends towards the mouth for ease of entry!"
Yeah!! That was hilarious!
You really have that hard of a time grasping sarcasm?
@@Ban_Usury_Worldwide But it's the atheists' worst nightmare.... (the banana)
@@paxmule Are you trying to further exemplify your inability to grasp sarcasm or?
I think he would sound more intelligent with the whole banana stuffed in his mouth
I only listen to Ray for one reason: he makes me feel so smart !
Stop deceiving yourself. If you think you are wise by this world's standards, you need to become a fool to be truly wise! For the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God! Just as a dog doesn't understand a laptop, mankind doesn't understand God's knowledge. God is greater than our understanding!
@@xDubhe Christianity, what a wonderfully appealing religion, not only does it teach that you are born wicked ( original sin ) but it commands you to be a FOOL !?!?
@@jerrylanglois7892 How could a God that is Holy, NOT create a Hell for those who sin against him? And, what makes man think they can figure out something THEY did not create! Fools! Mankind will NEVER understand the mysteries of the Cosmos, space is FAR too vast. Yes, what a wonderful way of life it is! Free will! We are sinners! But there is a savior who defeated death! Are you afraid to die? I'm not.
@@xDubhe You raise some good questions showing how ridiculous christianity ( all religions, really ) are : How could a '' holy '' god not create a hell for those who sin against him ? why would a holy, perfect, loving god create such a thing if we are '' created in his image '' ? So, he created it to punish himself ?... and to say man will never figure out the mysteries of the universe ? Well, science has not figured it all out but quite a bit so far, and who knows what answers it will have 100, 200 or 500 yrs. from now ? Christianity has always had it ALL figured out with, '' a god did it ''.
@@jerrylanglois7892 So God should have made us robots? God does not control every individual. It's our free will! It is our choices that cause pain and suffering. Perfect love CANNOT be bound by control. Control is not God's nature. Don't confuse Christianity with all the other 4,000+ religions. For Jesus said himself, “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." So according to the Bible, there should be no other religions! Thus, all for one, one for all. Pefect love and peace.
But because man's sin. Satan is the god of this world and has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Gospel. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.
Ask yourself. Are we closer to world peace or self destruction? You really think the way the world is headed we will last another 1,000 years? Science can't even explain the origin of life! And it never will because the TRILLIONS of possibilities ! There are over 30 Trillion cells in the human body! The DNA in our body would stretch over 34 Billion miles! (that would go way beyond pluto!) And you think that happened by coincidence? You think life is just some massive science project that man thinks they will figure out some day? Man won't even make it to the next galaxy! That would take over 250,000 years! ASSUMING we can travel at the SPEED OF LIGHT which we have NO CLUE how any space craft with man inside could even accomplish this. You are a soul living in a temporary body! How does science explain love? How did consciousness arise in living things? Where does symbolic thinking and self-awareness come from? What is it that allows humans to understand the mysteries of biology, physics, mathematics, engineering and medicine? And what enables us to create great works of art, music, architecture and literature? Science is nowhere near to explaining these deep mysteries.
To you it came from nothing? A bunch of explosions created order? So you live with no purpose? No meaning to your existence?
You can literally measure voltage/electicity.
Nope. Unless you feel it coursing through you (and hopefully live) it's not proof. Well done Ray, well done 👏 👏 👏
It's shocking that someone who is held in high esteem among creationists, comes on and appears no different than an average creationist caller. It's really like: "is this really the best they've got?" Wow.
i think even socrates would be considered average if all he had to work with was "Ray's creation"
I'd actually argue he's one of the worst they've got. Theists admonish critical thinking and revere blind acceptance of religious doctrine.
Well, most callers get their arguments from Ray and his contemporaries.
It's shocking that you comment like all the "others" by disparaging him without offering any intelligent argument.
@Bird Valiant - God made it clear that in the end days there would be so many mockers such as yourself. It is impossible for you to see without Spiritual Eyes Opened. You cannot see into any other dimension - the Spiritual dimension is closed to you so you mock what you cannot see or know. It is so sad that we cannot show you for just one second the reality in this other dimension. It can only be seen if you humble yourself to Almighty God the Creator and ask Him. But you need to be sincere. If you ever get to the point in your life where you really are willing to ask forgiveness and humble yourself, all you have to do is ask Him to make Himself known to you and He will gladly do so. You are loved more than you can possibly know. I hope you find Him one day soon.
The way to see by Faith is to shut the Eye of Reason.
-Benjamin Franklin.
Tom Lock or in other words, stop believing in reality and you will be able to dream
Tom Lock Well the first part of your comment reaveals you to be a very insightfull person, but when you start talking about your fairy friend it's all downhill.....You are not talking about a guy at a bar that you greet everyday but about a supreme form of life that shows no sign of existing other that filling the gaps in human knowledge and understanding. Unless you have some form of proof other than your gulible faith you are no more credible than a homeless crazy person holding up signs with "The end is neigh" at the street corner.
Tom Lock Sorry Tommy, but when it comes to proof, your personal reasons for conversion aren't worth jack in reality......even Stockholm Sindrom victims start to believe in their abusers.......You're done...
I haven't watched TV in about 5 years, I chose my media outlets very carrefully and check news before I believe them, I recognize human greed and distructiveness in all aspects of life and society. I am a skeptic, and I chose not to live in a fairytale world where I am watched and garded by an invisible sky daddy. The world is my abuser just like it is everyone else's......some handle it by believing in god, few chose to just see the truth no matter how unpleasant it is....In the words of Sigmund Freud "Most people need to dream in order to withstand reality" and that is the story of how all gods are born
Tom Lock That's cool; just explain to me how we know any of that to be true and I'll absolutely let Jesus take the wheel.
I just listened to this for the first time, and Ray honestly said "I don't want to take evolution on faith", but he's willing to take the Bible on faith?
WHAT?!?
Brian Nelson Holy shit.
According to him, hes not taking the bible on faith. He claims to have had a "personal experience" that proved it all to him. That is why you may as well just stop the conversation with him right there. If he wasn't Ray Comfort Matt would have hung up the phone on him 2 minutes into the call. Once someone claims "personal experience" there is literally no reason to continue engaging, its not objectively verifiable and they can keep falling back on it, just like Ray did the entire damn hour.
@@tsdobbi sort of. In some counts, you can counter with "not all personal experiences, are rational, reasonable and trustworthy. Therefore, personal experiences aren't reliable as detectors of truth.
You can counter with that, but they will never agree that their personal experience falls into that category. Thats why its pointless to continue a discussion with someone whose "evidence" is beyond scrutiny.
Kenneth Schrank
Atheism has nothing to do with evolution. Evolution is a scientific theory explaining the diversity of life. Atheism is merely a lack of belief in a god. The majority of both religions and atheists accept evolution. Faith is not necessary for evolution. Faith is belief without evidence and is exclusive to supernatural claims. Evolution has the fossil record and DNA to support the theory.
I know this is an old episode. But I never knew Ray used so many fallacies to defend his beliefs.
This is insane
I couldn't finish the video. He's infuriating, especially since you KNOW he had had this simple shit explained and corrected for him time and time again and just barfs up the same tired crap regardless
Name one.
@@RafaelGarcia-jb3me learn what a logical fallacy is and re-watch the video. He speaks in nothing but. For starters he poisons the well, begs the question, and presupposes his conclusion relentlessly. Not once does he ask a question in a genuine way that he hasn't tried to rig.
@@RafaelGarcia-jb3me if you haven't noticed. I made this post a month ago.
I don't remember what was said to name one.
But Im pretty sure if I were to take the time and insult my intellegance by watching this video again I could name several.
@@TheDeaconSephiroth still haven't named an example. It's funny how smart you atheists think you are.
What a world we live in where an adult can make an exceptional living being a professional idiot. Ray has one hell of a racket going.
He's a dishonest double-talking snake oil salesman. I've seen his videos and he leads the people he interviews to the conclusion of his choice. It blows my mind to even listen to him. What an idiot!
@@iamvickie9145 I cannot agree with you more, whatever the subject all his videos take the same moral bludgeoning tone within about 5 minutes, and he calls them films!
I'm taking him up on his atheist challenge, but he's so unbelievably disingenuous and downright dishonest, I might be physically sick just trying to talk to him.
If we were to allow the insane idea of a "god" do the judging of law breakers after their death our legal systems would be pointless and the streets littered with murderers and rapists let free to carry on. Closed-minded evangelicals like this man want to drag us all back to the stone age. I too am shocked and disgusted at his wealth and by the people prepared to give him money for the crap him and his cronies peddle.
Plenty of Scientists do. I come from Astrophysics. Look at Tyson. He's doing fine. Sagan did exceptionally fine too.
Perfectly said!!!!!!
About as real as psychics
I listened... and all of Ray Comfort's insistence of holding on to his faith is that, he had been a Christian for decades and that would be untenable for him to admit he had been wrong for all those years.
Science, scientists, skeptics are not afraid to admit that they got things wrong - that how we learn and gain knowledge. On the other hand, Ray Comfort accumulated so many "wrong ideas" that form a part of him, admitting he had been wrong was to negate him as a person - in Christianity, being "wrong" is the "sin" and the shame attached to it is so crushing that Ray Comfort is frightened.
Right on! It is not easy for most people to admit that their trust/faith was misplaced. You see this with con artists (another word for clergy) who are able to con a victim over and over. "Victims" fear having their poor judgment revealed; yet, ironically, that lousy judgment is confirmed by their inability to be honest with themselves and others about being conned.
And while he holds to his christian experience and relationship he will reject the same argument should a muslim, jew, budhist claim the same.
It's the other way around, lack of willingness to admit the wrong (sin) and seek for help (that we all need) is the biggest problem of humanity, if you understand the nature of sin (thru the Holy and Just Standard of God and enlightenment of the Holy Spirit), you will understand the doctrine of repentance and salvation as well, God is good and we are not, only Jesus is the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE!!!
But they don't believe something they got wrong do they? They look for another answer. You can't seem to accept that.
The real difference is that atheists have to hold tight they are right, no matter what.
But those who believe in The Creator and have passed thru a real personal experience about that (and I am not talking about something some could "made up") have the "I know" from a way different nature.
I know this may sound very odd now, but some that know any case of absolute change on any person, like a violent and selfish man into a really nice person (just to illustrate) "just because" he/her passed thru that experience, atheists will call it a mental unbalance, a chemical change caused by the power of his/her own mind and somethings like that.
Other wise, if an atheist can't show a link between animal kinds, can't calculate probabilities for a living thing "appear", can't show any prove of a real evidence that don't reinforce the possible "SAME CREATOR" point of view, "it's just a matter of time", "we don't know yet", "everything is in constant changing"...
...and all those that can't bow and serve a ""superior mind" aplaude - stand ovation!
So, if you really be honest, you'll see that both sides are BELIEVING, but only one of them have answers and numbers PRO...
...the answer "I know GOD" is not enough, too. BUT there is NOT lack of "evidences" for The Creator existence is a lie.
The end of this, for me, is: Atheists are always looking for a prove that there's NO GOD - a "god" that atheists think they know who is - and, like we can see in this video, it's almost impossible to live that personal experience and keep saying "there's no Creator". Because atheists, many, had bad religious and family relationships and is absolutely understandable atheists start to doubt...
...and doubt is the opposite of faith.
We are living a time that "rights" are not necessarily based on "pro life" anymore...
So simple and so basic...
...I hope the best for all you guys!
I remember the debate Ray had with Matt: he didn't debate at all. He jumped straight into trying to "save" Matt's soul.
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Matt seemed so fed up with Ray at the end of that debate. It was the realization that Matt was dealing with a moron for 45 minutes.
Honestly if you had Ray's beliefs, that would be the most noble thing to do. Way more important than winning a debate. Not saying I share Ray's view though.
Ray Discomfort.
Me thinks Ray Comfort has been hitting Southern Comfort!! Maybe with some diet coke and a slice of lime?
Begging to think that Ray Comfort has been hitting Southern Comfort!! Cheers!
He is a buffoon, but I admire his foolish courage in appearing on the show with Matt.
Typical atheist ...you can't address the creationist arguments so you make the leap to name calling.
@@mark48125 The creationist arguments have been thoroughly debunked by educated people for over a century. Some folks just won't grow up, and insist that Santa Claus is real.
Ray is doing so much positive change for atheism. Thanks Ray!
Numbty
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Ouch. 😂
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@Mikey Estee yep I'm dyslexic .. Let all TRY AND SHAME ME. ... GO.... LET SEE IF IT WILL WORK... NICE TRATE POINTING That out.
"I just dont like accepting things on faith"
things you'll hear creationists say
lmao! :-D
Creationists: "I don't like accepting things on faith"
Atheists: "How can you demonstrate the existence of God?"
Creationists: "You just have to take it on faith"
Atheists: "What the actual fuck?!"
They project a lot. Most liars do.
I was waiting for Matt to say "Ray, I swear I'm gonna hang up"
That would be because he doesn't want to be morally responsible for his actions.
@@BOASTinTheLORD Matt is morally responsible for his actions already?
@@akoskormendi9711 well he's under the assumption that he can get away with murder... When no one can. Nothing is hidden from God.
@@BOASTinTheLORD But he wouldn't murder anyone, let alone get away with it. Of course you can get away with some things, but Matt is still responsible for his actions. Anything Matt would do be judged by the legal system and his friends/family + viewers. He doesn't live under the assumption he can do anything, yes, one could get away with murder, but I don't think you realize how much work and stress would that bring. There are consequences to your actions, always.
@@akoskormendi9711 😊 I tell you out of love! Repent of your sins and accept Jesus Christ into your heart. It's the only way to everylasting life!
I told you, that if Matt stole a toothpick from someone, he would burn in Hellfire. Murder, fornication, adultery... It's all the same in God's eyes, Abomination.
EVERYONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS, NOT TO SECULAR LAWS OF MEN! BUT, TO GOD THE ONE TRUE LIVING!
This is just painful to listen to. 'Claim, claim, claim, claim.'
'Evidence?'
'Claim.'
I wouldn't be able to have this long a conversation with Ray Comfort.
No. There are evidences..
I used to try to have conversations with him down at Huntington Beach at the pier. He sucked.. always saying the same damn thing all the time.
They start with the end - and cannot deviate from it.
what evidence does atheism have to support whatever it believes, the science points to God dude yet atheists just disregard all of it but here if you need evidence I'll give you some observational and historical so you won't ever have to say there is no evidence ever again.......D.N.A is made of protein strands but to make protein strands you need D.N.A, they couldn't have came together on their own or separately, a gram of it can hold all knowledge humans will ever know and it contains pre existing information, information is given by something it can not inform itself of things it doesn't know, the 2nd law of thermodynamics proves the universe will end so the law of cause and effect proves the universe was created, the universe and all things in it are completely mathematical, fine tuned and obey strict laws of physics and nature, disorder does not create! especially something that is fine tuned with the probability of just a single protein forming itself by chance is 1 in 100 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 I lost track but 10 to the power of 164 and thats just one protein not in a strand, science doesn't even believe this could happen once in 4 billion years and is likely impossible, there's the law of bio genesis the first life was created directly by God and there is no plaussible evidence for the chemical soup theory as after 150 years of non stop lab expiriments to get life from non living material and they succeeded in doing this exactly 0 times, I have much more but I think you get the point, Einstien himself said there is one brain behind all the laws the universe and nature adhere to!
@@adamdouglas5596 Atheism is a LACK of belief because of a LACK of evidence.
Man, I miss Russell. He was always just as good keeping pace with arguments but also had a more subtle, zen like way of getting points across. Miss that guy!
What happened to him?
@@KroryykDB I know some folks walked away in protest to one particular person hosting, I don’t know if he’s part of them. I always figured he kinda transitioned out.
"I don't THINK" - Ray Comfort
Am I doing quote mining right? :>
I think it's extremely insulting and condescending when a Christian says to an former religious atheist that they were never a real Christian and that they never knew God in the first place because they didn't do this or didnt do that, didn't ask God to reveal himself with an open sincere enough heart and that the devil has deceived then because the atheist somehow did something that invited and allowed Satan in. So obviously yes, the atheist never did know God because God doesn't exist for anyone to know (the god of the Bible at least) but for them to imply with such arrogance that this person wasn't good or worthy enough of their god to reveal himself because they didn't know or understand the gospel, wasn't sincere or genuine and then on top of it to imply that they were engaging in activities that would allow the evil Satan to get control of their soul. It's so crazy and rude when what they're really saying is broken down. Truth is that all the atheists that were once religious were just as much a Christian as anyone else and those people don't 'know God' more. Some of these folk are so delusional, circular and in denial.
yes, this is what they can't see just as the athiest who was a christian couldn't until they accepted thinking outside the indoctrination.
i was one once as well and thought the same things which is the most regrettable and worst thing i have ever done with my life... Such a waste of time, oh well.
yup, that is exactly what is did. I asked, prayed, and nothing. Its funny how if it doesn't work, you're, or never was the real deal. How is that? I did everything that you did. So foolish.
God chooses some people and not others, it is called the doctrine of election.
If he can choose who will believe and who wont that would be a direct violation of the free will he gave us according to the bible. Its just another copout.
Quadrupliplex Where does the Bible say we have free will? Give chapter and verse please.
23:19
Ray: I just don't want to have to accept something by faith.
Me: The irony.
Why didn't they jump on that ?
@@bigblukiwi I wonder
@@bigblukiwi Basically he's saying that he experienced god himself so his point is that he learns evolution from other people but god is his own experience. I think that's why they didn't jump on it. But yes, there's a lot of things about his god he only knows from the bible, so it's the same ironic faith.
Pot, meet kettle.
“I reject evolution because I can’t accept things based on faith. I’ll stick with God.”
@Bob Mudge
It's official, this man is not good with words... As a christian who's seen the research that supports evolution, I'm mere ticks away from suffering second hand embarrassment after reading that quote.
Religion: "I don't know, so therefore God."
Science: "I don't know, so let's find out."
Actually, humans created science. If your argument is that god created humans--and therefore science, than there needs to be evidence. What science does is that it makes a hypothesis (god) and uses empirical evidence to validify it, but the only evidence that god has is the evidence that the book itself claims, which is not valid. The reason is because the only way that anyone can honestly believe that the book is true, is to use other evidences outside of the book, but those evidences are non-existent for the Bible, and only relies on its self evidence. So I want you to consider that to truly believe in something that is stated to be true, than that something must have observeable evidence that is outside of personal experience, evidences that are outside the actual claim, and evidence that is provable by other evidences in the natural world.
PS. This is not only for religion, and is for all claims.
@Chris Stols I'm sorry to disagree with you, but it doesn't. Science by definition is the method at which to obtain information through study and evidence. This method was proposed primarily by human beings.
@Chris Stols What is your Interpretation of the word science, and why can't it be created? Also I'm assuming you're are referring to the Big Bang Theory when you talk about creating energy from nothing, right? If that's so, than I'm here to inform that most astronomers don't claim that the universe came from nothing, and even if you don't know what the universe came from, there's still no reason to appeal to god.
@Chris Stols Ok, thanks for clearing that up, but I have another question, what created god? Most religious people I meet who I ask this question to, say that god is eternal, but that logic doesn't make any sense. Because if complex beings, (like humans) require energy, then does that logic also go for god. Because if it did, then that would make an infinite loop of god created this god, and that god, and so on. If you don't believe that, I would like to know the reason why.
Thanks.
(Edit) There's also another good theory on how energy was "created," that doesn't brake the Law of Conservation of Energy, or the first Law of Thermodynamics. This theory states that the universe was eternal, and energy was always around in the form of virtual particals. Then during some time, became the singularity. I'm not an astronomer, or a quantum physisist, so if you want a more detailed description about this theory, then there are many sources online that talk about it.
Perfect
Matt: "Do you go to the doctor?"
Ray: "All the time."
If the eye is the perfect example of creationism, why the need for modern science to create eye glasses?
@ci rob actually if God existed he could be blamed because he created the universe with all the suffering in it knowing this ahead of time. So he definitely would have a huge part in it
@ci rob GMO has nothing to do with deadly viruses, bacteria, fungus, parasites ...
he had a quick response to that question.
"I've known god since 1927 21st of April 1:30 in the morning"
Yeah, you see ray... Your not supposed to believe what happens during acid trips.
+Darien Seminoff Not according to maps.org The Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelics Studies is a Scientific Research organization lisenced by our Government to look at the once very villianized pychiatric compound such as LSD, Psilicybin, Ayahausca, MDMA, Cannabis, and I beleive Ibogaine. As a Pharmacist, I'm amazed what the preliminary data is saying about these plants and drugs. Not only are they showing long term outcomes for debilitating psychiatric conditions such as PTSD and drug/alcohol addiction, but they're literally using LSD for the severe anxiety sometimes associated with dying. This is wonderful for medicine, and I can only hope the FDA will continue to broaden the research with all of these.
Darien Seminoff 1972 wasn't it.?.. Ray has mastered stupidity to such a point it almost sounds clever lol
May it was a autocorrect thing :)
1972; you know you can edit your comment right?
Ray comfort: something can't come from nothing
Also Ray comfort: God just spoke the universe into existence
He's actually claiming that Atheists assert that the universe came from nothing
The earth didn’t come from nothing it came from God speaking it into existence
"Something can't come from nothing", Christians say followed by their claims of some invisible God created the entire universe, a God that certainly couldn't have come from nothing.
The truth is, scientific knowledge is ascertained from that in which was and can be tested, those tests can be replicated and repeated with the same results occurring every time.
Evolution has been and can be tested and demonstrated while Christianity and most other religion's claims, on the other hand, cannot be tested or demonstrated, not even at the most basic levels.
As an example, I'll paste below a very simple test anyone can perform. Christians can do so very easily, probably in two minutes.
If you're an atheist or agnostic, you can ask a Christian to help you with a really simple test that can show us not just God but their particular religions God does exist.
If your an atheist or agnostic, here is the experiment's questions. I included the answers I usually get which should help you in knowing what to expect in most cases...
1st Question:
Me: The Bible is pretty clear in that God is all-knowing, all-powerful, and that there is nothing he can't do, right??
Christian: Yes that is what the Bible states and therefore, it is the truth.
2nd Question:
Me: In basic terms, what is prayer?
Christian: (Gives me a standard explanation, often being something to the effect it being the primary line of communication between man and the God they believe in)
3rd:
Me: Do you pray?
Christian: Of course
4th:
Me: So prayer is you having a two-way communication where you speak and God listens and where God speaks (albeit not in a literal audible voice) and you listen??
Christian: Yep, that about sums it up
NOTE: I've asked all of those above questions and in this specific order to make sure that they can't begin retroactively amending or dialing back the very fundamental assertions they had just confirmed or at least do so without openly and completely contradicting the very principles they just confirmed to be true (true to their doctrine)
5th Question:
Me: So, since God is all-knowing, all-powerful, he knows my every thought, feeling, or action, then let's see if that he can.
I am thinking of a number right and of course, God knows exactly what it is, probably before I even thought of it.
You said you pray and communicate with this God.
So, please ask God what number it is that I've been thinking of and see what answer he gives you.
This is a very simple task for a God who, you claim, created the entire universe and did so in just a week.
(I sometimes add the following as an incentive, especially if they are evangelical type) "If the number God tells you I'm thinking of is correct, I will gladly attend church every Sunday for an entire year and do it with an open mind. I'll even attend your church with you if you like."
Christian: (Begins to immediately fumble for excuses, most of which completely contradict the very claims that had just asserted.)
NOT ONE of the probably 50 or so Christians I've asked this same set of questions to has ever even TRIED to pause for a second to bow their heads and make an honest effort at praying to their alleged God to see what answer they will receive.
This leads me to suspect that many of them either don't actually pray, don't truly believe they can hear from their God, don't believe that God answers prayer, and/or they are being challenged for the first time on the matter and quite simply do not know what to think about it all.
To my pleasant surprise, this has helped a few of them to began asking questions about their religion and if they're honest, they will begin to no longer just naively accept the typical, lazy "God is just mysterious" cop-out or other empty excuses or canned rebuttals that simply attempt to quickly fill in the ever-growing number of holes 🕳️ in their doctrine and theology.
Give it a try the next time you get into a theological discussion with a theist, see what answers you get.
@@sugarmantaterwedge5687 Why not Santa Claus, Pixies, Big Foots, Unicorns or naturally etc lol
@@Sammie551 are you asking why did God not speak those things into existence?
Ray is so horrendously dishonest.
First he says he doesn't have a presupposition...
Then he says he doesn't believe the evidence for evolution because it doesn't fit with what he believes...which is a presupposition...
Then he claims "There's no evidence." when he gets challenged on his presupposition.
How the hell does he sleep at night?
Russell and Matt have insanely great patience putting up with Ray's ridiculous arguments. I was cringing at most of them.
+Woah Man (Joel)
OMG, yes. His hypocrisy when it comes to "faith" under different circumstances is ASTOUNDING. Absolutely ASTOUNDING.
+Woah Man (Joel) Ray had very good arguments, maybe you weren't able to grasp them, watch it again bro
+Woah Man (Joel) they just make fun of Christians, that's all they do. They would have done that o anyone, not just ray comfort. They just make fun of them and think making fun of them makes them right. It's sad seeing people so lost.
+Trinity Woodley It was his choice to call the show knowing the nature of both hosts. He got ridiculed because of his own decision to broadcast his unstable view, and get logical responses.
+Trinity Woodley It's easy to make fun of religious people.
Let's be honest; Ray has to continue the act, even if he, himself doesn't believe- he profits too much from religion to do a 180 on it. He's not religious for the sake of living righteous, he's religious for the sake of monetary gains.
I agree what could a useless lump like Ray do to make money?
What a load of nonsense. Monetary gain LOOOOL! I think you have him confused with the prosperity preachers like Osteen and Myers etc.
We dont have him confused. He needed no help from us for that.
Joel H
Ray made about 2 million dollars last year, on people beeing stupid, guess what country he had to go to in order to make money of this con. In my country he be living on the street peddling this BS.
In a strange way, I don't have a problem with him operating like that.
I love Matt's language illustration of how Latin changed over time as analogous to how critters evolve.
This debate has caused me to become an alcoholic.
AllHaiLKINGTIsHeRe3 lol
You need God in your life.. give your life to Jesus christ and he will change your alcoholic problem
Amen
AllHaiLKINGTIsHeRe3 That makes two of us.
Hee Wa Tam Suen Jesus can go fuck himself.....With all due respect.
I find it amazingly funny how Ray equates becoming a christian to sticking a fork in a light socket
If you knew what he was talking about you wouldn't have made such a stupid comment.
@@iamservant8016 why was the comment stupid?
@@iamservant8016 - Why do theists like yourself seem to have zero sense of humour? Is losing it part of the 'deal'?
@Sean Pittaway again, another ignorant and stupid comment.
@@allahspreadshate6486 speak for yourself mate but I do have a sense of humour.
I would like to offer my ears a formal apology for having listened to Ray Comfort.
Great comment! Still laughing. Thank you!
I think your brain suffered more. At least your ears aren't actively comprehending him
😂😂
i like to imagine him biting the stems off of bananas and throwing them into crowds of atheist like rambo
There’s plenty of Aussies that think exactly like him, though.
Not even 5 minutes into the interview and I'm already face palming lol
I face palmed about 100 times
For about 20 minutes he tries to debunk evidence of Evolution, and when he realises he can't, he just goes with "well, god is always right"
I find it hilarious that you place "evidence" and "evolution" in the same sentence.
m tack so why do billions of years worth of fossils, numerous methodologies for dating them, current (albeit necessarily short-timeframe) laboratory experiments and a whole host of other things not count as evidence?
And, more specifically, why are they less reliable than one book and something you think in your head?
@@ChrisFineganTunes sir since you made m tack your bitch have you been feeding him well and walking him?
Does he REALLY say: "You depend on some book" at 28:08?
This guy is actually insane. Theres no alternative actual explanation.
insane and getting money for being insane
LemonGameshark
Confused?
The fact PI isn't 3 isn't a choice.
Logic isn't the result of choice.
The reason I can feeely question ideas is supported by the argument made.
"The fact God exists isnt a choice."
No. The act of choosing to believe it's a fact is a choice.
"The reason you can freely question his existence is because he gave you free will."
But it's also explained by him not existing. So that's a deeply weak argument.
Appealing to your belief to support a belief isn't going to work.
We know what you believe already.
The pertinent issue right here is that you are unable to explain why claims in your book are false - so chose to tell us how much you believe instead.
@LemonGameshark
Yet, you're the one who isn't dealing with the arguments about the bible. LOL
We can all see that.
Not aware of the concept of irony yet? Probably a closeted gamer boy who thinks this is a game where you chose the winning team... right?
You're the one crying about how much you believe in stuff.
So, crying is a factor of how many words you use...
But failing and just posting"but but ma belief says...!"
Gotcha.
Lol
So does PI = 3, genius?
Or is dealing with argument too scary for you?
Comfort: I see trees, and birds, and flowers, and all the beauty of creation.
Me: I also see Lions riping apart a zebra. An alligator snatching a child at Disneyland. Earthquakes, floods, forest fires......
It's not all beauty buddy. Take off your rose colored glasses, and take a closer look.
Willfuldevil I think you mean Disney World.
@@Stitchman3875 what ever. I stand by my statement. 😆
Exactly and WE also See a Lot of unused Gens in modern Humans which also cleary proves Evolution nur Ray doesnt much Care about facts His believe is Note Importamt of course
Ray says man cant create a grain of sand not a leaf or a flea - well true - However man can create gods by the dozen - well some men - like Ray.
@@nasamanharry yes firstly you are right about that !and secondly aby time Ehen Somebody bring's an example Like that is bullshit cause they compare Something you Just cannot compare dead Matter such as Sand hast never reproducted and changed anumals and plants are living Matter that reproduce and Chance all the time so Nobody should compare These Things ITS a baseless Claim from banana man with No reason at all
Ray's responses are more slippery than the slope he accuses atheists of having
Ray Comfort like so many others resorts to preaching when he's faced with logic.
There is no need to be convinced of God's existence because we all believe that God exists...In the bible it said we suppress the truth in unrighteousness...To say that there is a God is to put one self in submission to a being Will, Authority, Law, Responsibility and Accountability...that the real issue
@@kidverde37 fuck right off
kidverde37 Lots Of books say lots of things. Why should we take the Bible seriously?
@@GABA-Gool because all scripture is God brethren but people love suppressing the truth because nobody wants to do a proper prayer have a tiny bit of belief in the god and atleast read a page in the bible
Nick Ochoa You’re assuming I didn’t grow up in a strict Christian household for 19 years of my life. In which, you would be wrong. I’m very familiar with the Bible.
"You can't feel the power of electricity through your body" I guess he's never heard of people getting electric shocks lol
I've gotten shocked by a faulty stovetop, and I did not experience Jesus. I did get some awesome cardiac symptoms.
@@ginamelton3729 well they do say God moves in mysterious ways 🤗 lol but be careful next time 😂
@@djfussell1987 it nearly killed me so am I to conclude Jesus was trying to off me?
@@ginamelton3729 yeah maybe he was trying to show you the light of God 😂
Chaosmo; well, electrical discharges *DO* produce light after all ;)
These conversations are really unproductive - one side uses logic, science and evidence to bolster it's arguments while the other side effectively invokes magic. Given this, there is absolutely no prospect for a reasonble discussion to take place.
That's true.
But demonstrations like this I think serve to present the reality of Rays position.
When met with reasonable criticism, he simply recites a set of little excuses that all cycle back to a claim that God is real because believes he knows it.
So, ask him how he knows God exists...
At the end of his little dance, and reducing all that desperate noise into one propostion, you end up at "because I know god exists".
Ray is terrified.
bikeboy66 um, *ineffectively =)
"Raise yourself from the dead, and I'll believe you."
"...well, how do you know that happened?"
I feel like you can kinda just stop there.
God loves you ♥️
@@carmenwinstead9560 Gotta prove a God exists before that means anything to me.
And his favourite banana was on the table all time.
I wondered why there was a banana on the table. Thanks.
Yeah, matt is such a troll, lol
The athists nightmare.
@@Phoenix-King-ozai it was actually a member of the crew who put it there, not Matt himself, I forget where Matt says that but it definitely wasn't he himself
First thing I noticed, the infamous bAnAnA
Behold, the Atheist's nightmare!
If fits perfectly in your hand and curves towards your mouth therefore jesus!!!!! Not any of the 1000 of other gods either
Ha, then he tries to end it with a snide sucker punch: "It saddens me that you're going to hell."
Throw in an "i'll pray for you" also.
What comment shouldn't affect you if you don't believe in hell in the first place.
@@angelinaz78 It should actually, because the world is bigger is than me. If you're willing to use a line like that on me, the odds are that you're willing to use it on someone more vulnerable. Someone who is today where I was 15 years ago.
@Halcyon Days No. He is right to point that out. If you don't believe in Hell and you know the other guy does, then what is so surprising? And how can it be offensive if you don't believe in it? You are in error.
@@lydiafayre9806 Why would it matter at all to you? If you believe we are simply chemicals that evolved randomly, then you and your thoughts and feelings have no meaning at all whatsoever and neither do the thoughts and feelings of anyone else. Vulnerable people should be done away with according to evolution, if there is no advantage for them over some force of nature. So why would you want to protect the vulnerable, unless you actually admit there is inherent moral law in the fiber of the human that has some reason to it not connected to random forces or simply chemical interactions. And if these moral feelings are mere chemical reactions then there cannot be any emotions about it. No matter how you slice it you are not consistent in your worldview. It is indefensible to hold it and still live in a human community with human emotions and human evaluations.
@@TheRootedWord It matters to me because I have compassion for other people, and thankfully I'm free of a dogma that insisted I ought to be ready to murder "witches" and prepared to submit to slavehood and "womanly" silence in the face of male authority and am now more empowered to exercise that compassion in an active way in my life.
I have less than a high school education, but listening to Ray Comfort, I feel like a genius.
😂😂
I look at the universe and think how fortunate things ended up how they are and we ended up being able to be here.... I saw a hole in the pavement and it rained which perfectly fitted into the hole and how it must of been designed for the rain to perfectly fit 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@litchfiedr repent from sin, turn away from sin and take up your cross and follow Jesus and you will never die
@I'm Christopher :] zeus loves you. repent your wrongs
First 30 seconds: "Everything I say is right. I am the way. Why don't you believe me?"
Ray- Resurrect yourself, like Jesus then maybe.
Matt- Well how do you know that happened?
Ray- See, we Christians go by the power of god --BULLSHIT ALARM, BEEP BEEP BEEEEEEEEEEEP, BULLSHIT ALARM
+Eru Illuvatar If Ray told me to resurect myself I would've said OH I DID AND IT SAYS SO IN MY BOOK!
42:40 When Matt starts flipping his pen like that.......your about to get fuggin wasted.
Ray says that the Bible tells us: "don't go around judging people as Christians; on the day of judgement you'll find the genuine from the false." Yet, throughout the interview, he's been doing *exactly that*: telling Matt that he wasn't a true Christian, saying that Hitler wasn't a true Christian, etc. And about 30 seconds before he said that, he described how he asks for forgiveness after looking at a woman lustfully because "he *doesn't want to be a hypocrite*". Ray Comfort is a joke.
Arguing with Ray CumFart is like kicking water uphill. There's nothing you can say to a guy who out-right states "I believe in the god and nothing will change my mind."
***** Who's to say? I mean everybody has a different interpretation of the Bible.
***** There is no such thing as a "true Christian." This term is synonymous with "somebody who adheres to my specific belief system and acts as I do." Anybody can define the term "true Christian" as whatever they want it to be, and the definitions of course vary so dramatically that the term is completely meaningless and useless.
I'd say one of two things: either Hitler is a true Christian just as every other member of Christianity is a true Christian, because the term is completely meaningless. Or, alternatively, nobody is a true Christian _because_ the term is meaningless.
AnAntitheistGuy I am a true person. It's empty, and there is no such thing. Nobody is me, or like me, nobody follows my kind of lifestyle.
*****
Allright where do I begin...:
1.There is no way to ever know for sure that anyone who claims is christian actually is one. Only you know if you are "a true christian" and even then you are bound to sin against your god at some point. So what I think AnAtheistGuy meant was: nobody has ever been a "true christian" cause it is impossible to not commit some sin in your life. (especially since according to your holy book you can sin even with your thoughts and not even hateful or greedy thoughts, just the natural thoughts of sex)
Obviously you'll say that you can ask for forgiveness and all that, which only proves the point. You can't ever know if someone actually believes what they say they do.
2.You might want to google the "No true Scotsman" logical fallacy.
3.The dictionary definition of a christian is:
"a person who believes in the teachings of Jesus Christ and his divinity". So the standard is pretty damn low. You don't even have to do shit. Just believe! Hell, I could be a christian if I wanted to. Or claim that I was and guess what? You could never prove me wrong. Unless you are some sort of a psychic zombie that can read minds, who is also his own father and who sent himself to sacrifice himself to himself to take advantage of a loophole to rules he, himself created. But that's just silly of course.
4.Let's assume you are right though. Tell me exactly what is a "true christian" in great detail. Including clearifying if breaking any or some of those rules can be forgiven and under what circumstances.
5.Hitler was a roman catholic, you uneducated, weak-minded, brain-washed idiot. I am sick and tired of having to correct people who are just to damn lazy to read a fucking book before they go spewing stupid shit around, that some other stupid people can read and think is true without reasearching it themselves.
Read "Mein Kampf", any of Hitler's speeches, or, hell, I don't know... what did the SS army have written on their helmets cause I always forget. But I'm pretty sure it was "Gott mit uns"(God with us).
6.I keep hearing this term "Darwinist" used by christian apologists but what the fuck is that anyway? Darwin wasn't a philosopher. He was a scientist. He didn't preach, he researched. Which I guess is why you use his name as if it was some profanity. You hate science don't you? You hate it everytime it happens to prove your religion wrong and you will not accept any facts of evidence because of your agenda.
But at the same time you will use a computer to reply me. You are a hypocrite.
Or rather: "a TRUE hypocrite"
“Listen to reason” is the best intro. Bring it back! 🙏
Ignorance is not moronic. Moronic is being in the state of Ignorance and claiming you know everything.
Agreed
I just found out that Ray Comfort is from my country - New Zealand. On behalf of my country, I'd like to apologise, and assure the rest of the world that most of us are smarter (however we do have one asshole who thinks earthquakes are caused by people being gay).
Some day you will see you should have listened to Mr. Ray Comfort a little bit more and heeded his advice. You will eat those words someday.
TheActs2021 Another ignoramus
LOL really? Who the fuck believes that? I gotta look at him, it'll probably be hilarious.
Matt got ray on ropes so bad he had to call hospitals dangerous to protect his illogical stances
You don't believe hospitals are dangerous??? Are you blatantly looking past pure facts now exactly like that which u ridicule supposedly...just to make a joke??? Don't worry....I'll wait.
@@scarface773 no thier not try dealing with serious life threating illness without one thier not a garentee but they heal way more then hurt
@@enzonazzaro2156 aaaah ok...so..to answer my question in fact...YOU DO!!! Jtfo....and here lies the problem with most of you unfortunately.... atheism. So...you don't think plenty ppl have gotten staff infection with a long list of other small but potentially serious infections??...all the way up to hiv/aids??....it doesn't matter what would happen without them bro good try but....that isn't the argument lmfao.
@@scarface773 Take a moment to understand what is being said first.
Scar Face
1 week ago
You don't believe hospitals are dangerous???
Am I putting words into your mouth?:
You _think_ the claim being made is this:
"Hospitals are not dangerous."
The claim that is _actually_ being made is:
Because of scientific research/discoveries, medicine is better today than it was 100 years ago.
Do you disagree with that? You're so quick to disagree with something that isn't even the point. You look here like how Ray deals with evolution. He's had years and years, but if he spent just one month learning the science and correcting _his beliefs about what the evidence is_ he wouldn't be making any of the arguments he is making here, because they only address his _misunderstanding_ of what evolution's evidence is, not the actual evidence. Same as how if you actually listened to this video, you would understand what Enzo was saying, and you wouldn't argue with him by disagreeing with _your misunderstanding_ of what he is saying.
@@scarface773
What is a "staff" infection? "Staph", really, come on, is it that tough to spell?
Ray comfort says he doesn't take things on "blind faith" but yet he contradicts himself by claiming he has "blind faith" in his God.
32:18 Ray isn’t accepting the evidence because he choses to believe the bible over facts...special pleading much?
Talking to Ray Comfort is like taking to a brick wall
a brick wall made form *coke cans* though. recycle.
You are absolutely right His Level of ignorance is incredible ,Then Ray Said ,i do Not want acept anything in faith, what a Joke the entire christianity ist based in faith alone
Or a block head.
@Jarvis Gandy what?
@Jarvis Gandy i was asking you that sunce i Font understand what you wrote.what did you mean to say ?
when Ray is droning/preaching it looks like Matt goes into a dark place, hes heard too much of this. heart emoji
"I just don't like taking anything on faith-"
Bruh
Matt: the Emperor is absolutely NAKED!
Ray: No, he’s fully clothed! I can see it!
Ray Comfort "Electricity is an invisible force"
Electrician: "Looks at the Multimeter ... Whut?"
Also: "Honey, dinner is ready" -> The smell of pancakes is an invisible force
_Jedzia,_ To be fair there's an important distinction between _invisible_ (inability to see visually) and _undetectable_ (that multimeter detecting electric current). (Granted, electricity _is also sometimes visible,_ in examples like lightning strikes.)
I am embarrassed that I used to be a minister of the Gospel, and viewed Ray as a helpful resource for an apologetically- capable person. I'm very familiar with the "defense" of the Bible. It's non-sense. Ray cannot defend his position logically. I'm thrilled that I am free now, but have suffered much by way of family and "friends."
@Dd S I couldn't agree more. BUT there are real genuine people out there with relationship to Christ. Penn Jillette speaks of one encounter. Todd White (well known) and Bob Griffin (not so well known, but powerful). These guys are great examples of people who actually move in the realm of spirit. I for one got my back healed, thx to Bob Griffin (mainly Jesus Christ), I couldn't sit down without being in intense pain. Is was such a mind boggling ordeal, that I even struggled to believe still the next day, I literally struggled all day, couldn't stop thinking of it, and why it was hard for me to comprehend. This on top of I didn't like the guy (Bob Griffin) at the time.
Good for you Joel.
Joel I'm right with ya brotha! We are in this together and REASON will prevail. I too am deconversion for 3 years now and Im 42 years of age. I was indoctrinated at a very young age and family is still really religious. So I feel your pain. Thank goodness for TH-cam and these Atheists communities on here.
@Dd S I was a Apostolic Christian baptized at 9 years old and believed I had ability speak in tongues and all that jazz from 9 to 39 years old. Then I started doing my own research on the bible, it's origins and historicity of it and other religions and civilizations and I woke up and started by watching debates and noticed how asinine my beliefs were. I try not to get angry but it's hard because I was brainwashed and robbed of so many years of real self discovery.
@Dd S It's just so detrimental to a young mind to indoctrinate and limit true reason and the development of the brain to naturally want to explore with continual questions. Makes me upset but I'm dealing with it and trying to catch up and live the best life I can and treat everyone and the planet with love/respect and the way I want to be treated. I thinks that's all we can really can do here on the this rock while we are here.
"Faith in science": My new favorite oxymoron.
29:25
Ray: "I trust you."
Matt: "That'll be your undoing."
LMFAO
Ray comfort is genuinely painful to listen to....
Could be worse!! He might take up singing!!!
No shit, I needed some whiskey after hearing this. 🥃🥃🥃
😖🙉
Anyone have any duct Tape?
Ray is the living embodiment of "ignorance is bliss".
Matt is _especially_ patient with this guy...must have been a good day...^^
I don't know how you guys stay calm.. OMG
Ray Comfort 'common sense' is something you do not have
Ray is an idiot
Common sense is useless in assessing truth.
There is nothing common about sense.
Common sense happens to be the least common of the senses.
I thought similar to Ray once. My husband used to hate it when every time I found something disturbed or missing in our house I would automatically say, "it had to be your mother.!" LMAO
.! is not correct grammar.
Huh?
“Look at the flowers, the birds, and seasons”.
He literally said that
argumentum ad Hallmark
I think the atheist community gives Ray Comfort too much time. They're constantly trying to educate him on something which he refuses to accept. He's just like a kid in early high school who shouts at his maths teacher and doesn't do he homework and fails the exam at the end of the year - except that he doesn't have the pliability of a young mind, which is the only hope for that disruptive high school student.
Ray Comfort has lived a stubborn creationist and he will die a stubborn creationist. That's just how it is. We've given him his chance. Can we just leave him alone? because he's quite frankly irritating as fuck.
I think the AE team aren't trying to educate Comfort as much as they're trying to expose his crap for what it is, to educate people who might be taken in by his drivel.
Bananas. That is all.
Oh my gosh... complete destruction of Ray by Matt. Complete demolition. Complete humiliation. Absolutely brutal. Savage.
Shaewaros your adjectives need work
God loves you bro never forget that. ♥️
@@carmenwinstead9560 prove it..
He got rekked
Honestly, we really don't know much about Ray in real life, but what we do know for sure is that someone was high on 1972 25th April 1:30am.
Maybe
How the hell does he even keep track of what happened where?😂
Ray doesn’t like blind faith when is comes to Evolution and Science, but he does like blind faith when it comes to religion! 🤦♀️
Lol they are both faith but one is not blind and that's christianity
I RATHER HAVE MY FAITH IN GOD VS. HUMAN.
Gunju Augustine the Bible says in Hebrews 11:1 that faith is the substance of nothing, the evidence of nothing that can be seen. That tells me that faith is nothing but something you hope happens and I don’t need that, you feel me? Knowledge is power faith is make-believe! 🤦♀️
michael eatmon faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen. Do not change the text
The only faith I have is there may be one day a laxitive that can flush
all this shit stirring religion down
the pan.
AARGH! Why am I continually punishing myself with watching Ray Comfort stuff? Gah. I think I have masochistic tendencies and I am expressing them in weird ways.
It must legitimately be uncomfortable being Ray. His life sounds so out of control, and full of shame and guilt. Being a theist must be miserable
Yes nicholas, but he is making a good living out of his shite so he will be happy enough with the shame and guilt.
Pretty sure he is very happy scamming the gullible and making the cash. Probably has a good laugh about it as well.
Ray sounds like a broken record. He literally says the same thing through the entire podcast
It must have been taking Matt all the patience of the world to deal with this guy
Ray's stupidity is rivaled only by the likes of Sye Ten and Ken Ham.
don't forget Kent and Eric hovind
Oh, yeah. The Hovinds. Makes you wonder if maybe these fucking people are in competition with each other to see who can say the stupidest shit before they die. And they are tied right now.
+Bobby Duckett lying for jesus must get you a bigger mansion in heaven
+Bobby Duckett I don't see Ray Comfort as a bad person, I just don't think he's very smart. Kend Hovind isn't remotely intelligent either, but he is a convicted criminal. Bruggencate is mentally ill. Eric Hovind seems like a pretty decent guy, but is exceptionally dull minded. Basically, none of these guys are in any position to be telling people what they should believe in or how to live their lives, yet the fact anyone actually know's WHO they even are is disturbing.
Well, I do think they are bad people. They both knowingly lie to children. They both exploit peoples' ignorance and trust, all to earn a quick buck. They both repeatedly misrepresent themselves, and the shit they assert. Regardless of how many times they are corrected. If they had it their way, we would be back in the dark ages, a time that the church was most powerful. They would deny people the right to religious expression, except for protestant Christianity. They would teach children shit they know to be inaccurate. They would deny them critical thinking skills, and individuality. Which will put a stop to innovation. They would impede all progress as long as they possibly can.
I think they are bad people.
Right off the bat, Ray clearly demonstrates that he flunked Logic 101.
"yes there is: common sense." lost it at that
fuck when i heard that i felt this tingling down my spine.... what a fucking nob job... common sense....... fdg
I really wish that this video was advertised in the title of having Ray Comfort on the call. Because that was really meaningful for me as someone who was raised on science class based on theology by Ray Comfort and others in his circle. I want people to be able to search his name and find this video
I know this is old.. And a joke beaten to death but got to say it...
Ray: the banana proves god. its made for us... It has A built in opener...
Me: and the over 200 thousand other fruits and vegis ? Not "perfectly " made for us.. ?
Ray: but the banana fits perfectly in your hand...
😂
Mmm...comfort...silky salesmanship.
So does the erect penis😂
this is such a wonderfully cataclysmic beat-down of ray comfort.
he literally loses on EVERY point.
If you believe god is the creator and that there has to be a creator, then there has to be a creator of god and the creator of the creator of god etc.... But I guess most Christian don't believe that god has creator. It's kind of a contradict?
Not if we believe that everything bound by natural law (you, me, the universe) must be created, and the creator is supernatural, or not bound by natural law.
Marcus Moody I agree... it's possible but not the only option nor the most likely option imo. But generally the argument goes like "everything needs a creator", so god therefore needs a creator, and if you say god is outside natural law you can say the same about logic and that makes further discussion useless
Sismetic well, theres always God's hand in the natural aka The Bible.
Marcus Moody Why a being though?
***** That's my personal belief on what/whom the entity is based on personal experience.
I just want to say to whoever reads this... his argument that people cannot create a leaf is actually wrong. someone grew their own artificial leaf that can photosynthesise and has all the components of a leaf but is just a tab of greenery
Matt: " Spanish and Italian derive from Latin"
Cumfart: "I suppose so....."
LOL !
ROFL!
LMFAO !
He's such an insufferable prick.
Look at ALL the beautiful things .....Flowers , birds, Bananas........Small pox, Plague.
holdontoyourwig bone cancer in small children!!
holdontoyourwig don’t forget crib death 😍
Hahahahaha excellent point!! as well as bedbugs and a thousand other Creepy Crawlers that have nothing to do with the ecosystem
Hey, even ugly things display a kind of beauty. You just have to compartmentalize your humanity to appreciate something like Ebola.
@@johnbee3416 and River blindness where a parasitic worm bores into the human eye. Some creation... that.😮🤔
This guy is saying. "This black wall is white. You can't see it bud god told me so". How religion can turn everything 180° and still belief in it.