The Drum department is my comfort zone. Whenever I'm feeling down, I watch you guys doing this podcast and it cheers me right back up. I miss having a Drumeo membership. I bought one for a year in 2019-20, and I was on it ALL THE TIME. I also won student of the week like 3 times and I constantly asked Kyle questions about EVERYTHING. I started taking lessons from a teacher shortly thereafter, and he's one of the best teachers in my country so he's very expensive, and so I haven't been able to have a Drumeo membership ever since. But I will get back whenever I can. I really, really loved it and I'm sure in the last 3 years there has been a LOT more stuff that's been added on. Wish I could just wake up at 3 one of these days to watch one of these live streams and win a year's membership haha. But usually have classes scheduled early morning at 9 and shows in the evening, so it's not been possible yet. Hopefully on the next one! You guys are great. Never stop!
I took a cheap, thick and heavy 25 ply maple $200-$300 OC 14x7 snare drum and slapped new heads on it (top and bottom) and put a 50 wire snare on it. It literally hits you in places you didn't know existed.
I listened to dozens upon dozens of snares on TH-cam recently before buying a new snare and that Gretsch Hammered Chrome Over Brass was in my top 2, along with the Tama Star Reserve Brass. I kind of regret not getting the Gretsch in hindsight!
Thank you for this video. I’m new to drumming and it bugged me so hard that we have so many choices kit wise but people knew what to choose for the most part and so it’s nice to hear it’s mostly about personal preference and what the sound eng suggests. Like wise with drumming sticks, a pair came with the electric kit but ordered more expensive branded and I prefer those because they are slightly heavier.
I collect snare drums because i'm weak and a drummer. Most are bought because i fall in love with them and most of that is because there's some story behind them for me. The latest one in my sights is a 14x4" Premier that's the same as the one Ringo used on the first Beatle album. :D
Yeah, me too. "I'm weak and a drummer." My wife just throws her hands in the air..."oh, no....not again!" My latest was the Ludwig Carl Palmer Venus piccolo snare. Have a good one mate. Footnote: I recently sold my Premier piccolo that I had since the late 60s to a collector. Beautiful sounding drum.
What's the dimensions and shell material of these 3 please,anyone?...or whatever you know of them. I'll look to getting something similar but cheaper. (I have an Olympic steel 14×5.5.)
Interesting tip regarding cymbal placement. I have mine pulled in towards me and I’ve lately been experiencing some shoulder pain. I’m going to give his tip a try and push them away from me. Great video.
They all sound great. It almost seems shameful to admit that I quite love the sound I get from the wood of my Gretsch 7 piece Catalina Maple kit stock snare. The snare I really want to compliment my kit with is a Keith Carlock vintage brass snare.
One of the Dennis Chamber Signatures is in the same price range, and that's something to look at. There isn't another mass-produced snare as versatile. The Omar Hakim is a nice choice too. I just find that wood snares can give me the desired tone of wood, without out all the unnecessary sharpness.
I'm not a gear head to the extent of many others, so I don't have 6+ snare drums like some guys. However, I did get to the point where I wanted something different than the stock 14x5.5 steel my Tama Imperialstar came with or the 14x5.5 maple that my Mapex V Series came with. Thing is, I'm on a budget because I just play in bars locally. So I was looking for something my friends didn't have, sounds great, but not stupid expensive. Something that also limited my choices was that I really wanted diecast rims for this drum. The result... For $500US on Sweetwater, I got the Charlie Benante Signature 14x6.5 by Tama. It's 1.1mm steel shell is slightly thicker than standard, but not stupid thick like the Lars Ulrich snare. The hardware and diecast rims are black brass over the stainless steel shell, and I catch myself staring at it sometimes. Once I replaced the stock G1 batter head with a UV2, the drum really had the punch and feel that I didn't know I was missing!
My Favorite Snare is still the Slingerland Spitfire: Brass, Chrome Over Brass, or Maple Shells, 12-Lug, 4 Sound Holes, TDR-100 Snare Strainer (snares extend beyond the rim), and a Contoured Snare Bed in the metal... Super-Sensitive, Crisp, and LOUD!... They are Awesome Snare Drums.... I have them in 5", 5.5", 6.5", and 8" depths, plus a Marching version with all the same specs 12" deep... : )
Was that Gretsch a USA Hammered Chrome over Brass Snare Drum 14x5 ? Will have to buy that one 😀. BTW just a got brand new Ludwig Hammered "Acrophonic" Limited Edition 14 x 5. Its better than my Black Beauty & Supraphonic to my ears !
Jeremy Taggert, drummer of Our Lady Peace used to play the Ayotte era Keplinger snares back in the day. Very cool sounding drums. I can see why you’d gravitate towards that sound. Beautiful!
31:05 13” snare drums should have been the standard snare size . They generally have awesome amounts of tone and you could essentially get them to sound like any other snare on the sound spectrum. Personally I’m completely in love with my Omar hakim Pearl snare . You can get it to a phat feel and or a crispy high cut on the top end without it choking . The unusual but awesome thing is the higher up you tune is the more dry and poppy the accented crack is. Although I am a firm believer of using one versatile snare to get a broad scale of sounds . It’s usually better to get a deep snare or Picollo for that sound your looking for .
@@OliKember I think that prehaps a 14” has enough body of tone for the sound engineer to work with it and turn it into something of their liking. It’s also not to good to have too much of something especially in recording situations. A snare that’s too dry can be a headache for sound engineers 😅😅
According to Shane from the Drumcenter Portsmouth, Pearl snares were the most sampled snare drums throughout all the sample libraries. So it is not surprising that they appear on a very high rank in your show here. They are very well built and last forever without weaknesses and they are very affordable.
2001 yamaha stage custom standard steel. Found same Era Birch 14x5.5. 10x5.5 Birch Popcorn early 2000's. Recently found Stage custom birch 14x6.5. Exciting to get it.
The most expensive snare I own is a Noble and Cooley 14 X 6.5 Solid Shell walnut. I bought it for $1200 CDN about a year and a half ago. There is one snare that I regret selling years ago. It was a 14 x 7 Yamaha recording custom. That was a really great sounding drum. That was in ‘08-09 I think.
Come for the knowledge/experience, stay for the banter..... another great epi fellas! Looking forward to next week's instalment: "The Drum Department Ep.#21 - What's REALLY on Dave's nightstand" 😆
14:35 - Not 25, but 35, almost 40 years.😀Pearl launched the Masters Series in 1993, but the predecessor to the Masters Series, the 6-ply, 7.5mm all-maple Prestige Custom 8500 MLX (lacquered)/MX (wrap) and the 6-ply, 7.5mm all-birch Prestige Studio 7500 BLX were made since the mid '80s. In 1993, the Masters series was released in several variants: MMX Masters Custom with 4-ply, 5mm maple shells with reinforcement rings, CMX Masters Custom Extra (later renamed MRX Masters Custom Extra) with 6-ply, 7.5mm maple shells, while birch shells were named MBX Masters Studio (4-ply with reinforcement rings) and 6-ply CBX Masters Studio Extra. MBX was discontinued after a few years, while 6-ply birch was renamed BRX Masters. Session series and its history is even more complicated😁
so funny trying to describe the sound of a snare. There are no words that can describe the perfect snare sound, DUDE THAT SOUNDS SO BRIGHT WITH LOTS OF BODY! lol really awesome video, long form snare talk is much needed.
"Bell bronze" simply has more tin for increased rigidity than the bronze used for say lost wax sculpture. One doesn't generally bang on bronze sculptures with sticks and beaters.
Hi Drumeo. Great video - still working my way through it! Just wanted to ask - who is the 2nd gentleman playing the Pearl BCX snare? He has a very unusual/ergonomic set up! Thanks.
Very interesting chat. This is the first time I realized that Drumeo is Canadian, it should have been obvious from the wardrobe and general demeanor of you guys and somewhat the speech characteristic but, hey, I never caught before. Back in 1999-2000 I was recording a Christian rock group outside of St. Louis and Chad Smith (not the guy from RHCP, but from Geezer Butler's band) had been hired to drum for it. At the time he was working as an instructor at a STL drum shop that had a really large collection of snares. I couldn't get, in the room we had, what I wanted from his personal 3 or so snares (which were, meh, ok) so I asked if the shop would loan him 10 or so to try out hoping to find one that just milked the room and mics and dynamics we were after in the recordings. That weekend he showed up nearly 30 snares packed into a wagon, all with price tags on them lol. We went through and recorded the same parts on all of them - top offerings from Pearl, Ludwig, Tama, Yamaha, any brand you can think of was there - and the winner was a wood hooped Yamaha. I wish I could remember the name and exact dimensions and who it was a signature model for but all of that escapes me. What I do recall very clearly was that it was light years ahead of all the others. Yeah, it was an expensive snare, around $650 at the time iirc, but it simply pounced all the others, many of which were supposed to be superior. Chad even said it felt better to play, even though he set the same heads and pressures across them all and then tuned toward each snare's strengths. I told him to buy it, sell an arm or child, whatever it took, but he HAD TO HAVE it because the odds of finding another like it again were pretty low. It was kinda obvious to both of us that it wasn't so much the formula of the design but the build on THAT particular piece, like, of 500 of them made only 2 or 3 were really done perfectly, planets aligned somehow for the workers that day kind of thing. Oh, also, everyone who heard the recordings made with that snare commented on it being outstanding. So, yeah, snares are a crucial part of the overall spectrum/performance/recording/etc.
What was the Yamaha shell made of , wood or metal? My cousins best kit in the 90s was an old 70s Yamaha cheap Japanese made with dark orange spun metallic texture wrap - thin wooden shells. I bet he sold it. Ps. It was very warmly resonant.
@@dobleclanger I wish I could remember. It seems like it was a wood shell but it could have been metal. I've worked with hundreds of snares through the years and that was THE stand out piece. I highly suggest doing a lot of side by side comparisons.
I love your videos! I agree makes me happy! For me I just choose from my 4 snare drums I own and I don’t feel like I’m going to have a bad sound. As long as the recording is good I just can’t justify in my budget going out and buying more drums. I guess I need to make a list of my snares! Ha
I've been rocking Spaun Drums snares. I have a 6.5x14 black nickel over brass (my baby), 6.5x14 1/8" brass (weighs 22lbs) which is an absolute beast! 5.5x14 16ply vented maple, 6.5x13 maple finished in mapa burl (sexy as hell and sounds AMAZING for a 13", and an acrylic vented 5.5x13... I LOVE ALL OF THEM!!!!
Hey men...I am from NL and a follower/viewer of your videoos. I dont play anymore because of health, but I just like to see your 4 bussy with drums and playing, great. Did you hear about Sawtooth drums? What do you think about this brand?
I like that they have so many snare drum to choose now, Go back to 60s and 70s you would walk into manny's music store and buy a four or a five piece drum set from Ludwig or Rogers and Gretsch you would get a great snare drum with the set one of the snare drum was the Supraphonic or Dynasonic you would pay $450 to $550 depending on the deal you are getting I don't have to tell you what those snare drum are worth now.
Indeed, the Horst Link Signature snares were the best built snares ever made. 12 Lugs never else came up on a snare drum as far as I know. The Bell Bronze was not only extremely heavy but also rang as hell, and so it didn‘t find many fans beside the collectors. I own a 6 1/2“ stainless steel model which is very usable and has a unique sound (dry, articulate and very dynamic) to it as long as you could manage to deal with the tuning rods and the tricky parallel snare strainer.
Say he never sold his old kits ,and I wish I was as wise of that young man hell I wish I could play as well as him. You guys at drumeo have so much to offer musicians . Even an old fart like me. Thanks guys I will never sell another set of drums in my life . I a fan thanks
I can’t remember the most I’ve spent on a snare drum.... I’ve had a few Lol.... but I can remember the cheapest pro snare I bought..... it was a Tama 13 x7 SLP maple snare for $75.....in fantastic condition.... pretty good score 😏😊
the Drumeo matt black titanium snare sounds good but it has too much wires action in it. i guess the 42 wires? are too much for it. i would go back to something more usual like 24/30 wires to recover some shell talk in there.
Rip on Ron all you want, yet he's got some of the best drums in the biz...ever. His Titanium, Chrome 2N Brass, and Aluminum 2N are some of the best metal composite drums ever made in the scene.
My five cents.. The latest miracle. TAMA 'Sound Lab Project' Steel snare.. Oh my God! I wanna throw my whole collection away. Please check it out. Makes me wanna cry with every backbeat..
@@nightlite2013 Yes, very much. Ranging from fantastic Ghost notes if you're closer to jazz-fusion, to Rock and Metal because it's condensed steel. I play in this Pink Floyd Tribute band, this is it, if you want to hear it in a true Live environment. th-cam.com/video/Eus0bzc6PS0/w-d-xo.html
Is this the drum you're referring to: Tama S.L.P. Expressive Hammered Steel Snare Drum - 6 x 14 inch - Glossy Finish with Black Nickel Hardware Thank you.
@@camerondean6804it's the classic version, not the hammered. And unfortunately it's discontinued. I haven't tried the hammered version, but I get the feeling it may be even better.
Boys I gotta tell ya u can take any drum with the right heads and tuning u can get the sound u want ! The current drums I play were found next to a dumpster!(sonic percussion?) new heads and some tuning and I’m thrilled!! My whole set is second hand junk with some new hardware from sweet water music in ft Wayne In cheap drumming I’m happy!!! Rock on great show
@@drummrboy I've only heard of steel Dunnett Trussart snares.. Has he made magnesium Trussart before? At least I haven't found any pictures of one yet.
Drums were made to be miked! Either studio or live, I don’t like listening to drums in a room, even if it was a great drummer with a great drum kit!! Yes, I am a mixing engineer 😜!
My first drum kit should be here wed. I went with a Pearl export double bass. Never played but always wanted to learn and there is so much information in your TH-cam videos thanks ladies and gents
I’m always amused by the guys that tout the Supra as the most recorded snare drum. The studio sound manipulates the sound / tone of drums. So, even if the Supra is the most recorded who can tell? You can’t but you’re willing to pay triple what a comparable sounding drum costs. Also, take into consideration the snare drum Ringo, Watts, Vinnie, Peart, Gadd, Copeland, Porcaro, Chambers, etc, play(ed). None of them used a Supra.
The Drum department is my comfort zone. Whenever I'm feeling down, I watch you guys doing this podcast and it cheers me right back up.
I miss having a Drumeo membership. I bought one for a year in 2019-20, and I was on it ALL THE TIME. I also won student of the week like 3 times and I constantly asked Kyle questions about EVERYTHING.
I started taking lessons from a teacher shortly thereafter, and he's one of the best teachers in my country so he's very expensive, and so I haven't been able to have a Drumeo membership ever since. But I will get back whenever I can. I really, really loved it and I'm sure in the last 3 years there has been a LOT more stuff that's been added on.
Wish I could just wake up at 3 one of these days to watch one of these live streams and win a year's membership haha. But usually have classes scheduled early morning at 9 and shows in the evening, so it's not been possible yet.
Hopefully on the next one!
You guys are great. Never stop!
I took a cheap, thick and heavy 25 ply maple $200-$300 OC 14x7 snare drum and slapped new heads on it (top and bottom) and put a 50 wire snare on it. It literally hits you in places you didn't know existed.
Black Beauty is the best snare I've ever recorded on. Loved that damn snare.
My go to is a 14/5 Black Beauty With Pure Sound Super 30,Emperor X with one gel. Love this snare.
The environment of this team is amazing!! Thanks you guys!!
Love Jared's humor with the Dave's nightstand comments 😂
The Tamburo Volume acrylic 14x6.5 snare for me is my favourite snare at the moment. Don’t let the see through fool you, the tone is amazing!
The most recorded snare drum in all of history is the Ludwig Supraphonic.
For a reason!
Had mine since '87, my #1 since the first day.
I've had mine since 1964
was... it was.... Now there is no need for a overrated snaredrum. The market is full of snares that sound like so good as a Supra and cost less money.
I thought so but I prefer Sonor snare the most. The issue is that in Europe you almost can’t find those Ludwig Suprasonic.
I listened to dozens upon dozens of snares on TH-cam recently before buying a new snare and that Gretsch Hammered Chrome Over Brass was in my top 2, along with the Tama Star Reserve Brass. I kind of regret not getting the Gretsch in hindsight!
Brandon’s Titanium sounds as amazing as it looks! Congratulations 🎉 1:01:08
Thank you for this video. I’m new to drumming and it bugged me so hard that we have so many choices kit wise but people knew what to choose for the most part and so it’s nice to hear it’s mostly about personal preference and what the sound eng suggests.
Like wise with drumming sticks, a pair came with the electric kit but ordered more expensive branded and I prefer those because they are slightly heavier.
Hats off the Drumeo you guys all Rock!
The red Yamaha snare you guys used for Mark kelso is probably my favourite I've heard on drumeo.soooooo nice
I collect snare drums because i'm weak and a drummer. Most are bought because i fall in love with them and most of that is because there's some story behind them for me. The latest one in my sights is a 14x4" Premier that's the same as the one Ringo used on the first Beatle album. :D
Yeah, me too. "I'm weak and a drummer." My wife just throws her hands in the air..."oh, no....not again!" My latest was the Ludwig Carl Palmer Venus piccolo snare. Have a good one mate. Footnote: I recently sold my Premier piccolo that I had since the late 60s to a collector. Beautiful sounding drum.
I used to hear alot about Ringos early touring piccolo snare - Ludwig(?), but now his drum history leaves it out. What's the truth?
BLACK BEAUTY!!!!
Ludwig acrolyte and Ludwig super sensitive and Ludwig supraphonic. Top notch.
What's the dimensions and shell material of these 3 please,anyone?...or whatever you know of them. I'll look to getting something similar but cheaper.
(I have an Olympic steel 14×5.5.)
Interesting tip regarding cymbal placement. I have mine pulled in towards me and I’ve lately been experiencing some shoulder pain. I’m going to give his tip a try and push them away from me. Great video.
They all sound great. It almost seems shameful to admit that I quite love the sound I get from the wood of my Gretsch 7 piece Catalina Maple kit stock snare. The snare I really want to compliment my kit with is a Keith Carlock vintage brass snare.
One of the Dennis Chamber Signatures is in the same price range, and that's something to look at. There isn't another mass-produced snare as versatile. The Omar Hakim is a nice choice too. I just find that wood snares can give me the desired tone of wood, without out all the unnecessary sharpness.
You guys have the greatest job in the world to have that kind of fun while your working you guys are great.
Man you guys have some fun together!!! Love Drumeo
Let's not forget Chad Sexton's old school OCDP snare sound, he made 311 with his sound!
I'm not a gear head to the extent of many others, so I don't have 6+ snare drums like some guys. However, I did get to the point where I wanted something different than the stock 14x5.5 steel my Tama Imperialstar came with or the 14x5.5 maple that my Mapex V Series came with.
Thing is, I'm on a budget because I just play in bars locally. So I was looking for something my friends didn't have, sounds great, but not stupid expensive. Something that also limited my choices was that I really wanted diecast rims for this drum.
The result... For $500US on Sweetwater, I got the Charlie Benante Signature 14x6.5 by Tama. It's 1.1mm steel shell is slightly thicker than standard, but not stupid thick like the Lars Ulrich snare. The hardware and diecast rims are black brass over the stainless steel shell, and I catch myself staring at it sometimes. Once I replaced the stock G1 batter head with a UV2, the drum really had the punch and feel that I didn't know I was missing!
Ludwig
Black
Beauty
The best four Nerds talking about drums😊
The only snare any drummer needs is a Ludwig black beauty..
I love Jared the one who picked upymy interest in drums
My Favorite Snare is still the Slingerland Spitfire: Brass, Chrome Over Brass, or Maple Shells, 12-Lug, 4 Sound Holes, TDR-100 Snare Strainer (snares extend beyond the rim), and a Contoured Snare Bed in the metal... Super-Sensitive, Crisp, and LOUD!... They are Awesome Snare Drums.... I have them in 5", 5.5", 6.5", and 8" depths, plus a Marching version with all the same specs 12" deep... : )
Was that Gretsch a USA Hammered Chrome over Brass Snare Drum 14x5 ? Will have to buy that one 😀. BTW just a got brand new Ludwig Hammered "Acrophonic" Limited Edition 14 x 5. Its better than my Black Beauty & Supraphonic to my ears !
Can we just acknowledge the 💯 spot on Owen Wilson „woooooow“ that Jared does when unboxing the Snare Tuneup Kit ❤😂
Ludwig Supralite 6.5-14 is the best snare for $200
all that ludwig flavour inside
My two bucket list snares are the '89 Noble & Cooley Zildjian and the Ayotte era Keplinger. I will sell a whole kit to get each one btw
N and K made a snare with Zildjian!? Strange mix. Can describe its materials and sound? I may not be able to find it.
Jeremy Taggert, drummer of Our Lady Peace used to play the Ayotte era Keplinger snares back in the day. Very cool sounding drums. I can see why you’d gravitate towards that sound. Beautiful!
@@stephentyler4352 I remember that, he and Matt Cameron both used one one the Spiritual Machines album I believe, also live.
31:05
13” snare drums should have been the standard snare size . They generally have awesome amounts of tone and you could essentially get them to sound like any other snare on the sound spectrum.
Personally I’m completely in love with my
Omar hakim Pearl snare .
You can get it to a phat feel and or a crispy high cut on the top end without it choking . The unusual but awesome thing is the higher up you tune is the more dry and poppy the accented crack is.
Although I am a firm believer of using one versatile snare to get a broad scale of sounds . It’s usually better to get a deep snare or Picollo for that sound your looking for .
I totally agree. I’m a 13” guy all the way. It cracks at mid-high where a 14” can start to choke. Love it!
@@OliKember I think that prehaps a 14” has enough body of tone for the sound engineer to work with it and turn it into something of their liking. It’s also not to good to have too much of something especially in recording situations. A snare that’s too dry can be a headache for sound engineers 😅😅
According to Shane from the Drumcenter Portsmouth, Pearl snares were the most sampled snare drums throughout all the sample libraries. So it is not surprising that they appear on a very high rank in your show here. They are very well built and last forever without weaknesses and they are very affordable.
i have a $300 pearl snare which can keep up with all the big players in the 4 digit realm
2001 yamaha stage custom standard steel. Found same Era Birch 14x5.5. 10x5.5 Birch Popcorn early 2000's.
Recently found Stage custom birch 14x6.5. Exciting to get it.
What make and model of hi-hats is the guy playing at 5:47?
The most expensive snare I own is a Noble and Cooley 14 X 6.5 Solid Shell walnut. I bought it for $1200 CDN about a year and a half ago.
There is one snare that I regret selling years ago. It was a 14 x 7 Yamaha recording custom. That was a really great sounding drum. That was in ‘08-09 I think.
Can anyone tel me which Evans heads are on that chrome over brass snare? Much appreciated... Love the show...
The best snare drum of all time is an OG Tama Bell Brass, no contest. Aaron Edgar’s 14x8 Sonor HLD is a close second place.
Come for the knowledge/experience, stay for the banter..... another great epi fellas! Looking forward to next week's instalment: "The Drum Department Ep.#21 - What's REALLY on Dave's nightstand" 😆
Your voice is the best
Thank you.
14:35 - Not 25, but 35, almost 40 years.😀Pearl launched the Masters Series in 1993, but the predecessor to the Masters Series, the 6-ply, 7.5mm all-maple Prestige Custom 8500 MLX (lacquered)/MX (wrap) and the 6-ply, 7.5mm all-birch Prestige Studio 7500 BLX were made since the mid '80s. In 1993, the Masters series was released in several variants: MMX Masters Custom with 4-ply, 5mm maple shells with reinforcement rings, CMX Masters Custom Extra (later renamed MRX Masters Custom Extra) with 6-ply, 7.5mm maple shells, while birch shells were named MBX Masters Studio (4-ply with reinforcement rings) and 6-ply CBX Masters Studio Extra. MBX was discontinued after a few years, while 6-ply birch was renamed BRX Masters. Session series and its history is even more complicated😁
so funny trying to describe the sound of a snare. There are no words that can describe the perfect snare sound, DUDE THAT SOUNDS SO BRIGHT WITH LOTS OF BODY! lol really awesome video, long form snare talk is much needed.
"Bell bronze" simply has more tin for increased rigidity than the bronze used for say lost wax sculpture. One doesn't generally bang on bronze sculptures with sticks and beaters.
Awesome
Hi Drumeo. Great video - still working my way through it! Just wanted to ask - who is the 2nd gentleman playing the Pearl BCX snare? He has a very unusual/ergonomic set up! Thanks.
No Pearl Brass free-floating snare? It's the snare of choice from Gene Hoglan, and used a lot from what I see in rock and metal.
“My wife’s mad”-Hahahahahha. Great vid guys. Amazing how metal snares are loved more then wood.
Very interesting chat. This is the first time I realized that Drumeo is Canadian, it should have been obvious from the wardrobe and general demeanor of you guys and somewhat the speech characteristic but, hey, I never caught before. Back in 1999-2000 I was recording a Christian rock group outside of St. Louis and Chad Smith (not the guy from RHCP, but from Geezer Butler's band) had been hired to drum for it. At the time he was working as an instructor at a STL drum shop that had a really large collection of snares. I couldn't get, in the room we had, what I wanted from his personal 3 or so snares (which were, meh, ok) so I asked if the shop would loan him 10 or so to try out hoping to find one that just milked the room and mics and dynamics we were after in the recordings. That weekend he showed up nearly 30 snares packed into a wagon, all with price tags on them lol. We went through and recorded the same parts on all of them - top offerings from Pearl, Ludwig, Tama, Yamaha, any brand you can think of was there - and the winner was a wood hooped Yamaha. I wish I could remember the name and exact dimensions and who it was a signature model for but all of that escapes me. What I do recall very clearly was that it was light years ahead of all the others. Yeah, it was an expensive snare, around $650 at the time iirc, but it simply pounced all the others, many of which were supposed to be superior. Chad even said it felt better to play, even though he set the same heads and pressures across them all and then tuned toward each snare's strengths. I told him to buy it, sell an arm or child, whatever it took, but he HAD TO HAVE it because the odds of finding another like it again were pretty low. It was kinda obvious to both of us that it wasn't so much the formula of the design but the build on THAT particular piece, like, of 500 of them made only 2 or 3 were really done perfectly, planets aligned somehow for the workers that day kind of thing. Oh, also, everyone who heard the recordings made with that snare commented on it being outstanding. So, yeah, snares are a crucial part of the overall spectrum/performance/recording/etc.
What was the Yamaha shell made of , wood or metal? My cousins best kit in the 90s was an old 70s Yamaha cheap Japanese made with dark orange spun metallic texture wrap - thin wooden shells. I bet he sold it. Ps. It was very warmly resonant.
@@dobleclanger I wish I could remember. It seems like it was a wood shell but it could have been metal. I've worked with hundreds of snares through the years and that was THE stand out piece. I highly suggest doing a lot of side by side comparisons.
I love your videos! I agree makes me happy! For me I just choose from my 4 snare drums I own and I don’t feel like I’m going to have a bad sound. As long as the recording is good I just can’t justify in my budget going out and buying more drums. I guess I need to make a list of my snares! Ha
I've been rocking Spaun Drums snares. I have a 6.5x14 black nickel over brass (my baby), 6.5x14 1/8" brass (weighs 22lbs) which is an absolute beast! 5.5x14 16ply vented maple, 6.5x13 maple finished in mapa burl (sexy as hell and sounds AMAZING for a 13", and an acrylic vented 5.5x13... I LOVE ALL OF THEM!!!!
OH and a steel vented 6.5x14 steel
Whoa Jonathan moffets snare!!!! Killer drum!!!!
Hey men...I am from NL and a follower/viewer of your videoos. I dont play anymore because of health, but I just like to see your 4 bussy with drums and playing, great. Did you hear about Sawtooth drums? What do you think about this brand?
I’ve used a 2004 Chad Smith Pearl on so many recordings.
you guys ROCK !!
That rhythm of the week reminds me of Don’t Lose My Number by Phil Collins. A bit simpler but difficult to play for 3 minutes.
32:45 TAMA also have such hardware but better.
Love my Black Beauty !!
which snare drum did Billy Cobham used on his kit please?
I have an a&f raw aluminum 14 x 5.5 otw. I hope it sounds good.
I like that they have so many snare drum to choose now, Go back to 60s and 70s you would walk into manny's music store and buy a four or a five piece drum set from Ludwig or Rogers and Gretsch you would get a great snare drum with the set one of the snare drum was the Supraphonic or Dynasonic you would pay $450 to $550 depending on the deal you are getting I don't have to tell you what those snare drum are worth now.
Indeed, the Horst Link Signature snares were the best built snares ever made. 12 Lugs never else came up on a snare drum as far as I know. The Bell Bronze was not only extremely heavy but also rang as hell, and so it didn‘t find many fans beside the collectors. I own a 6 1/2“ stainless steel model which is very usable and has a unique sound (dry, articulate and very dynamic) to it as long as you could manage to deal with the tuning rods and the tricky parallel snare strainer.
The Ludwig Coliseum has also 12 lugs. I should look if this Ludwig came out before the Signatures.
Buddy I'm 61 years old. Play forever and I have sold every one of my kits.
When I heard the young fellow with the short blande
Say he never sold his old kits ,and I wish I was as wise of that young man hell I wish I could play as well as him. You guys at drumeo have so much to offer musicians . Even an old fart like me. Thanks guys I will never sell another set of drums in my life .
I a fan thanks
The most recorded snare ever is probably the Yamaha recording custom. Amazing snare in every tuning imaginable.
Bell brass is a real alloy it has a slightly higher ratio of tin to copper
I can’t remember the most I’ve spent on a snare drum.... I’ve had a few Lol.... but I can remember the cheapest pro snare I bought..... it was a Tama 13 x7 SLP maple snare for $75.....in fantastic condition.... pretty good score 😏😊
the Drumeo matt black titanium snare sounds good but it has too much wires action in it. i guess the 42 wires? are too much for it. i would go back to something more usual like 24/30 wires to recover some shell talk in there.
Never played "Take on me" despite I like the groove, but who`ll sing to it with its five octaves or so...
Rip on Ron all you want, yet he's got some of the best drums in the biz...ever. His Titanium, Chrome 2N Brass, and Aluminum 2N are some of the best metal composite drums ever made in the scene.
Let's not forget the Dynasonic snare.
SONOR Horst Link Signature HLD593 Bell Bronze 14"x4" Snare. I own it and almost never reach for anything else. Yep.
Them sound great! I have a 2003 Tama Bell brass that also sounds great for just about anything! It's worth checking out on my channel.
Can’t go wrong with a Dunnett TI or steel. His latest ‘sledge’carbon steels are also worth checking out!
Ludwig Supraphonic and Black Beauty are the most recorded.
I play an Amber Pork Pie Acrylic and it sounds like a Black Beauty for a 1/4 of the price.
Path of brand 🥁 cymbals Zildjian liked Pearl and TAMA especially SABIAN or ISTANBUL Cymbals ..
I'm watching your video on how much you spend on a snare try checking out a varus snare they're made in Italy
In Australia the Ludwig is a $1000 drum...
My five cents.. The latest miracle. TAMA 'Sound Lab Project' Steel snare..
Oh my God! I wanna throw my whole collection away. Please check it out. Makes me wanna cry with every backbeat..
I loved how Matt Gartska had it when he used it there.
I’m relatively new to drums. Is that snare versatile?
@@nightlite2013 Yes, very much. Ranging from fantastic Ghost notes if you're closer to jazz-fusion, to Rock and Metal because it's condensed steel.
I play in this Pink Floyd Tribute band, this is it, if you want to hear it in a true Live environment.
th-cam.com/video/Eus0bzc6PS0/w-d-xo.html
Is this the drum you're referring to: Tama S.L.P. Expressive Hammered Steel Snare Drum - 6 x 14 inch - Glossy Finish with Black Nickel Hardware
Thank you.
@@camerondean6804it's the classic version, not the hammered. And unfortunately it's discontinued. I haven't tried the hammered version, but I get the feeling it may be even better.
Snare I'd still like to have: Paiste Spirit of 2002 or S Bronze.
Boys I gotta tell ya u can take any drum with the right heads and tuning u can get the sound u want ! The current drums I play were found next to a dumpster!(sonic percussion?) new heads and some tuning and I’m thrilled!! My whole set is second hand junk with some new hardware from sweet water music in ft Wayne In cheap drumming I’m happy!!! Rock on great show
So that non-titanium Dunnett snare, what is it really made of?
Steel
@@mzmm4186 Really? And all that time I thought it was one of his magnesium snares...
@@drummrboy I've only heard of steel Dunnett Trussart snares.. Has he made magnesium Trussart before? At least I haven't found any pictures of one yet.
Nerds!
I want an original tama bell brass snare so bad
Drums were made to be miked! Either studio or live, I don’t like listening to drums in a room, even if it was a great drummer with a great drum kit!! Yes, I am a mixing engineer 😜!
yeah lets talk about drums but also.... those sofas look comfy, please give away one of those, signed please
That 13 VK Titanium 30:00 was the perfect snare sound and Jarod tunes it down. 🙄
It’s 13’ by what ? By the way ?
My first drum kit should be here wed. I went with a Pearl export double bass. Never played but always wanted to learn and there is so much information in your TH-cam videos thanks ladies and gents
Ok! I could use a titanium snare. Feel free! 😂
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Change the word loud to "cutting" and that more describes the sound of loud people refer to.
metal snares with diecast hoops are the best in the studio.
Amen brother losing hearing tinnitus rrrrsucks
I gotta hang with Gene Hoglan. he has the keys to drumeo. or is a stealth master
The gretsch hammered brass snare.
Any Hendrix Archetype....hard to go wrong
Drumeo, are u guys saying you're fans of VLDL?
So the cable drum could be like Gibson's terrible Robo Tuners!
Yes. Absolutely.
The snares sound beautiful. Not loving the triggered kick drum, though. It sounds like slapping a piece of leather with a rubber hose.
Common Ludwig supraohonic
early Wooden Dyna-Sonics from the mid 60's not a snare that can match up
I’m always amused by the guys that tout the Supra as the most recorded snare drum. The studio sound manipulates the sound / tone of drums. So, even if the Supra is the most recorded who can tell? You can’t but you’re willing to pay triple what a comparable sounding drum costs.
Also, take into consideration the snare drum Ringo, Watts, Vinnie, Peart, Gadd, Copeland, Porcaro, Chambers, etc, play(ed). None of them used a Supra.