3 Drummers, 1 Song: Who Played It Best? | The Drum Department 🥁 (Ep.31)

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  • @dylanweightman
    @dylanweightman ปีที่แล้ว +164

    I want a recount 😆. So much fun doing this -- thanks for all the support! Great job to Brandon & Dave.

    • @jonleehk
      @jonleehk ปีที่แล้ว

      dang those single stroke fills

    • @Monsterdrumma
      @Monsterdrumma ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I liked your take the most.

    • @michaelkeene5950
      @michaelkeene5950 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Your take was best and I think the comments very clearly verify that.

    • @mohddalibinzali1165
      @mohddalibinzali1165 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're won that contest bro. Great playing n great control👍🏻

    • @45axelh
      @45axelh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yours sounded the best to my ears, unofficial winner.

  • @SleepFan771
    @SleepFan771 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I liked Dylan's interpretation the most for his power and tastefulness that captures the track's spirit, but adds some more dynamic fills.

  • @chinmayroy4637
    @chinmayroy4637 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Dylan was the one where it felt like the Drums compliments the music track they played. Clean and subtle. I like his version way more than others.

  • @OW79
    @OW79 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I thought that Dave's performance was best. I liked his interpretation from 24:48 onward was more on point than the others. Loved Brandon's interpretation as well, very dynamic and full of feels. Great set, all!!!

    • @val_val_
      @val_val_ ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you a musician?

  • @l3gendaryk27
    @l3gendaryk27 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    1. Brandon - Jack of all trades, good groove as well
    2. Dylan - master of space
    3. Dave - master of ghost notes

  • @TheLongBrother
    @TheLongBrother ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Way too much conversation at the beginning guys. Still love Drumeo. Keep going with awesome videos.

  • @nakulyadav9287
    @nakulyadav9287 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Dylan understood the spirit of the composition, in my opinion. They were all awesome!

  • @koalaimpala25
    @koalaimpala25 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Dylan played what the song needed and called for. He gets my vote.

  • @667neighbourofthebeast
    @667neighbourofthebeast ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Dylan followed the off beat accents of the backing track 1/4 way through. Powerful finish. So, Dylan.

  • @lyleman2112
    @lyleman2112 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Would love to hear Chris Coleman play his version :D

  • @joshuaschmidinger3993
    @joshuaschmidinger3993 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    To me the best and most interesting performance was dave's(tasty gloves and fills, I really dug it 😎👌)Brandon was solid and I loved the cymbal smash accent and the double time power 😊👍 Dylan was more a straight shot and professional(like a session drummer playing a low key track so not too much)all of you did great in a different way and I love when you do this, showing different views and play styles of the same song 👏

  • @LordFred69
    @LordFred69 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    1st guy was too busy, 2nd guy had the best groove and fit them vibe. 3rd guy had best fills

    • @Geooss
      @Geooss ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I love the second guy tecnic. And the 3rd guy opener fills is awesome before the music go to kind of bridge🎉

    • @-ajms-
      @-ajms- ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Can tell your not a drummer like the other 13 people who liked that comment.

    • @erinc6186
      @erinc6186 ปีที่แล้ว

      2nd

    • @mohddalibinzali1165
      @mohddalibinzali1165 ปีที่แล้ว

      2nd Dylan, he serv the song and played with soul. Great tone control and ghost note. Ma vote from 🇲🇾 ✌🏻

    • @val_val_
      @val_val_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hahah lol naaa, the 3rd was the busiest and way to much played.
      1st held the form consistently, didn't have too much variety and caught the ending

  • @sierragold
    @sierragold ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Dave killed it!!!

    • @Aka_GUNDAM
      @Aka_GUNDAM ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hell yes he did! 🤣
      BIG DADDY DAVE 📸
      This was so much fun to watch 💯💯💯💯💯

  • @garysullivan5481
    @garysullivan5481 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Middle guy best feel by far...

  • @Playername_Blue
    @Playername_Blue ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Dave reminds me of how Dennis Chamberlin plays the double bass.

  • @AvStevieStevenJamesDrums
    @AvStevieStevenJamesDrums ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Dave blew the other two out of the water.

    • @rmmccarthy1240
      @rmmccarthy1240 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, Dave was head and shoulders.

  • @redonred0924
    @redonred0924 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Never realized Dave was such a killer drummer.

    • @TheLumberJacked
      @TheLumberJacked 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Everyone at Drumeo is a killer drummer.

  • @HuckFinn212
    @HuckFinn212 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dylan - all the way! He served the song, the pauses were better, letting it breathe more -Imo, it was the most musical approach!

  • @crazyyyyhorse
    @crazyyyyhorse ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Second one guy was the best to me. If I was there, will let more space for music, create a tribal pattern just on toms and bass drum, a few touches on cymbals and NO snare, 'cause the original already has the clap sharp sound on 2nd and 4th tempos. .

  • @andrewwalsh6762
    @andrewwalsh6762 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the host! he is a very camera friendly dude. Love the ballbusting ;] -m.Ando !

  • @opiumDot
    @opiumDot ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dylan for sure. I didn't care for Brandon's George of the jungle beat in there, and Dave was overpowering the track.

  • @tobaidi
    @tobaidi ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dave's was the best for me! Very organic and natural

  • @mariannapaganini2114
    @mariannapaganini2114 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I vote for the cute guy Dylan 😊 but Dave went pretty well too

  • @perfectlygoodslouch5212
    @perfectlygoodslouch5212 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love Dave's Power fills and the expression on Dave's face when he first started getting his sea legs😜 , Dylon had killer stick work , Brandon great feel all great drummers

  • @darrylvandermerwe5994
    @darrylvandermerwe5994 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Dylan's take was really good... Thought it captured what a great half way between Dave and Brandon would sound like

  • @emilyblake1865
    @emilyblake1865 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Brandon absolutely won for me. So clean and ended exactly on time. Sounded well thought out.

    • @JD-ch1wo
      @JD-ch1wo ปีที่แล้ว

      Its was hot garbage

    • @val_val_
      @val_val_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yup he ticked the most boxes, got the form, had good ideas, clear fills, caught the ending

  • @neilpower1731
    @neilpower1731 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All 3 great. For me, 1st guy Brandon started out too full on though and didn't take it down anywhere. 2nd dude, Dylan had the best performance imho, musical, changed it up, smooth grooves on point. Gave the piece space to breathe. That flam stop💪3rd geezer, Dave had a better 1st half of the song. Too many fills flying by overall. Fill at 25.00 was super, watched that just a few times:)
    Hats off gents!
    Be interesting too to hear these guys go up against each other again with a track they can digest for a while.

  • @davidbalan6571
    @davidbalan6571 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow having a great day today's Bellucci .

  • @milostopic1514
    @milostopic1514 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brandon all the way, Dillon had a nice feel, Dave overplayed ...

  • @matrixman666
    @matrixman666 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Even though all three are great, I prefer the second guy, closer to the tune, better variations.

  • @Adam-tp8py
    @Adam-tp8py ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dylan arguably has the best technique but Brandon plays with so much nuance. Creates this rolling sense of momentum in the song that ebbs and flows while staying regular.

    • @TheLumberJacked
      @TheLumberJacked 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Everyone at Drumeo is an amazing drummer. It’s what they do.

  • @Q.Q.
    @Q.Q. ปีที่แล้ว +10

    For me, the second drummer struck the best balance between serving the song (being symbiotic with and being enhancing to the music) and showcasing himself. The choices he made made me want to listen to the music/piece more than I felt with the other two.

  • @leroyeadon378
    @leroyeadon378 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Best episode by far. They are ALL winners.

    • @patrickgelder-ph5yd
      @patrickgelder-ph5yd ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, .... it's just a friendly competition, one winner.
      It's healthy to know that the variables of life are not always in your favor.

    • @Adam-tp8py
      @Adam-tp8py 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@patrickgelder-ph5yd Underrated comment. Nothing wrong with friendly competition to remain humble.

  • @davis311c
    @davis311c ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honestly, before Dylan and Dave played, I knew ot was going to be Brandon. His was just oh so tasty

  • @BayouMaccabee
    @BayouMaccabee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I vote Dylan merely for the comedic political pleas for votes. 😆

  • @sinabogado2278
    @sinabogado2278 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Brandon was the best. The other two followed the song instead of playing the song. It was like they were slightly behind the song through most of it.

  • @jeffreymarcum9053
    @jeffreymarcum9053 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dylan had amazing feel and his ghost note volume was perfect for this track also had a vary consistent sounds all around the kit

    • @mattfuller651
      @mattfuller651 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed on all points

  • @WD.909
    @WD.909 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These videos are way too long. Just get to the good stuff!

    • @P4p4Smurf
      @P4p4Smurf 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😐 Do you not see the timestamps that literally tell you when they play? If it's too long don't watch. Video isn't catered to you

  • @gballmaier
    @gballmaier ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My money is on Brandon. He's learned and internalized so many Grooves, styles, and genres. He just will have a bigger tool box to create with.

  • @TheNavarro6767
    @TheNavarro6767 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked Dylan the best bc the drumming flowed with the music more. Brandon too much crash... Dave too predictable.

  • @jdgonzo1982
    @jdgonzo1982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dylan won this...the other two were great but Dylon played something that complimented the music track...solid but with technical parts where they were needed...the first guy lacked detail and the third guy had a little too much...Dylon hit the spot...

  • @Notintimidated2013
    @Notintimidated2013 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dave’s was most appropriate and I thought it sounded the best. I think he would’ve been hired as the studio musician to play it.

  • @AndyBatee
    @AndyBatee ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1st comment. I feel all the best. but as always, the best is always played last.

  • @justinpiccirillo6089
    @justinpiccirillo6089 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Very cool! Great job guys!

  • @m0shua
    @m0shua ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did anyone else see Kyle’s Dolly Parton t shirt??

  • @tusharjamwal
    @tusharjamwal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dylan did it best. I would prefer his version on a recording.
    Brandon had a little too much going on.

  • @Tiger_Smash59
    @Tiger_Smash59 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All solid performances, I’m gonna give the edge to Dave his just had a little extra feel.

  • @michaelkeene5950
    @michaelkeene5950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1. Dylan. Dylan’s take was the coolest. His fills were most exciting, he started with a tight hihat, ghost notey groove before opening it up and going to ride and his dynamics and feel were by far the best.
    2. Brandon. He played pretty busy and not tasteful or good busy imo, but I did like that he went into a double time groove. HOWEVER I think the double time groove would’ve been way cooler with the snares on 1 and 3.
    3. David. Nothing in his performance surprised me or really caught me off guard. I thought he played pretty cymbal heavy with a lot of ride and it made the dynamics feel one dimensional.
    Dylan is my pick. No question. 🤷‍♂️

  • @lauraabbott1835
    @lauraabbott1835 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dylan I thought was the best.

  • @breezewayrecords
    @breezewayrecords ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dylan by a wide margin. All excellent, but Dylan had more overall shape, tone, groove, more breathing space, was more connected to the details of the song. Yeah, he missed the last note -- but what a finish he was going for!
    By the way, "soup to nuts" is a fine dining metaphor. Solution X covers all "courses" from the soup to the post-desert nuts (and cheese?).

  • @curtislee5801
    @curtislee5801 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I personally liked Dylan's playthrough the most, but they were all so good.

  • @orall
    @orall ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dylan won it at 20:22.
    Nobody else did this. Should've done it more.

  • @rommelcabasag
    @rommelcabasag ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i go for Brandon, clean...and the progression is on point.

  • @Avenger6
    @Avenger6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    DAVE did AWESOME. Cool little aditions to a standard beat rythm Brandon did good , Dylan was too booksafe for me

  • @fran991213
    @fran991213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my humble opinion I think three of the gentlemen are all overplayed 🤣🤣

  • @bozziovai
    @bozziovai ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dylan. i would choose him. for playing for the song.....

  • @bombshellblonde544
    @bombshellblonde544 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I want to see so many more of these! It's awesome seeing the Drumeo guys tear it up on the kit!! And as impressive and badass as Dave and Brandon's were, I think I liked Dylan's the best. He still did some really cool, technically impressive stuff, but it fit within the song the best of the three instead of covering it up

  • @MrAvw777
    @MrAvw777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dylan, was more dynamic and complemented the song more!
    Loved the breaks, and hitting the accents.

  • @gcfournier3386
    @gcfournier3386 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dylan wins, but all drummers great

  • @brianmcguire5175
    @brianmcguire5175 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What's so refreshing about this is the raw human performance they all gave. Honest and leaving it all on the table. Some small glitches and scrapes but all part of the first time round play through and illustrative the real everyday drummer experience. I loved it all from all three guys. The moments of slight grit and dirt is what I enjoyed most as iit should the honesty and conviction of each player as they tried to perfectly execute their initial ideas for the piece after only one listen through. Human yet professional at the same time. I hope this is a reoccurring bit for this channel and it's contributors. Too often we see the perfect performance and never the behind the scenes work that lead up to that final perfect take. insightful and shows off the drumeo talent in a great light! I loved this video! More episodes of this theme please

  • @Starbucker3388
    @Starbucker3388 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dave had the song perfectly expressed

  • @supermandra8275
    @supermandra8275 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Watching everyone's head bobbing in sync with the music while they were taking notes was great content.

  • @steevodrums4749
    @steevodrums4749 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man...what can I say ...I loved all 4 versions ..really..they were all creative and very musical .Don't have a favorite..I respect all 4 of you guys ..your a blast to watch and listen to ..great drum department episode ..Kyle ...your becoming a great host of the show...you make the show fun to watch and to listen to ...Steve ..

  • @jamestaylor-mdh-39
    @jamestaylor-mdh-39 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brandon has quietly become one of my favorite drummers/educators. I think he could hold down the drum chair in most an big band touring right now. Dave and the Foo's? Give Brandon a call. New Rush tour? Brandon's got you. Brian Blade needs a vacation? Fellowship band rings up B-dog... I haven't heard any reggae tunes though. Perhaps that's his weakness. lol

  • @ThePeca1988
    @ThePeca1988 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved all the versions! Such different approaches and techniques from everyone, amazing to watch!

  • @Badonkadonk
    @Badonkadonk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At least they are not up against Chad Smith xD

  • @TruthNTime
    @TruthNTime ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They were all good, the song sucked. You guys could of found a way better song for them to throw down to.

  • @NickdeDrummer
    @NickdeDrummer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dave's version was prettiest imo, I'd vote for his rendition.

  • @PakoRaawr
    @PakoRaawr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brandon!! i vote for Brandon! i mean i love his sound!

  • @tommynikon2283
    @tommynikon2283 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dave for the win!!!!

  • @patrickgelder-ph5yd
    @patrickgelder-ph5yd ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dylan did exactly what the song needed....#1

  • @alkingborn
    @alkingborn ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Don't know the name but the first drummer is definitely the one who best has interpreted the song. Great job again guys !

  • @daveb-j3d
    @daveb-j3d ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #2 and #3, both killed it. #1 to show show drummerish for me. Over all# 2 for me

  • @MichaelDSwanson
    @MichaelDSwanson ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So much fun! I loved this, guys. Everyone did a fantastic job.

  • @jesuspena1483
    @jesuspena1483 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey drumeo.can you make presentación latin drums or percusion player.example horacio hernandez.fausto cuevas.diego camacho/ timbal player the noche orquesta. Or cuban latin player or merengue regueton players. Please thanks

  • @themikeholm
    @themikeholm ปีที่แล้ว +3

    well played Dylan

  • @DidYouReadEULA
    @DidYouReadEULA ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brandon best of the three, but all three did much better than I could. Can tell they are pros and I'm one of those dime a dozen drummers, but still SO MUCH FUN!! 😃

  • @chchcho
    @chchcho 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really loved Dylan's version, to be honest I was even surprised by the votes
    Brandon was a close second for me

  • @SaintTanna69
    @SaintTanna69 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dylan takes it 👍🏼

  • @dabrazzykidskywalker
    @dabrazzykidskywalker 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What’s the name of the track??

  • @benmorris6831
    @benmorris6831 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Enjoyed all 3. I vote Dylan. He let the song breathe. Very tasteful.

  • @1ucapedia
    @1ucapedia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It seems to me like all drummers missed the time signature change at 11:37 but I enjoyed Brandon’s performance the most. Fantastic job by all though for great performances with no guidelines to follow

  • @Torawes
    @Torawes 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1. Dylan - I liked the use of toms, this also felt like part of the song, not just drumming over it
    2. Dave - I liked the use of the hi-hat
    3. Brandon - Too much cymbals, but overall not bad

  • @violettownmicroenterprises1528
    @violettownmicroenterprises1528 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soup to Nuts: American English idiom, desc. a full course dinner; from beginning to end. Also: a 1930's film of same name, starring the trio who later became the "Three Stooges" Therefore: think Dave, Brandon & Dylan as The Soup to Nuts Guys !! 😂 🤣thank you Wikipedia.

  • @SOLDbyYOU
    @SOLDbyYOU 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved being the last minute -walk in - gun slinger - ringer - shit our Drummer just realized he’s double booked… we don’t care how you sound just be there by 7:30 for a 9:00 pm downbeat…
    Especial with good players… all we needed to do was NOT train wreck…
    Stewart Copeland said that the first take was almost always the best take…
    Sooo many players feel that way…
    Freedom… just keep your chops and your mind healthy… and play NOT with your shoulders arm, wrists and fingers… but with your heart , brain , eyes and ears….
    I got a ton of call backs… but then the pressure was on.. know the arrangements… that was a lot less free or fun…
    Sidney Layman… early 1980s… keyboard player for the Airman of Note….kicked…my…butt…. SHE was the gun slinger… I was bruised for a week… all I could do was hang on and NOT suck…. But I got the call back.
    First takes… are the most fun

  • @doomprogger6345
    @doomprogger6345 ปีที่แล้ว

    1. Kyle (very tasty)
    2. Dave/ Dylan (both equally great)
    3. Brandon (too much of everything...cymbals, fills, volume...) Very sad to say, because i really love Brandons Vids on all the different Drum Heros.

  • @marcelakebleris3027
    @marcelakebleris3027 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Brandon is, by far, the best of the three!

  • @anthonycates2343
    @anthonycates2343 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Waiting for #3 to play but I think #2 brought it so far

  • @The73rdSecret
    @The73rdSecret ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dylan won this IMO

  • @sonofnothing
    @sonofnothing 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would be nice to hear some snare hits thsy weren't always right on the 3 for a little tasty section or something. I liked where Dave was going with the Tom voicing during the verse but then he kind of abandoned it.
    Great playing each drummer for sure.

  • @onedavidonegopal
    @onedavidonegopal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dylan's is best drummer he play like songs sense accord song composed …..all are best Brandon's fill best......N good but Dylan's is best BEAT

  • @allrequiredfields
    @allrequiredfields 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know this sounds weird, but I hate the tempo. Snare on 2 & 4 sounds corny and snare on the 3 sounds super sluggish. SO much music over the last couple decades use this tempo - without even checking I'm dead positive its somewhere between 60 and 70 bpm. It's like EVERY Polyphia song, every dubstep song. It sucks to play drums to, it sucks to dance to and it seems like the whole world for some bizarre reason gravitates towards it when writing.

  • @alanpules4105
    @alanpules4105 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All 3 guys were fantastic! It was amazing that they all listened to the song just once, and then they all came out with an amazing drum performance that fit the whole format! I favored the last guy playing more than the other first 2, but doesn't mean I liked them any less. I hope there's more of these drum offs in the future as I really liked this a lot. Kudos to getting to watch all 3 bad@$$ drummers. Thanks. 👍😎 - ( it's sad that I just got to watch this 10 months after it was posted though ☹️)

  • @_inseanity
    @_inseanity ปีที่แล้ว

    "Soup to nuts" is a saying that comes from food industry, a full course meal starts with apps/soup and ends with sweets/nuts... Didn't like Brandon floor tom part on the first one before the last chorus, I felt like that kinda threw it off, Dylan was best I think, the vibe was on cue

  • @mlridebmx
    @mlridebmx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brandon is a killer 🤘🏻 LETS FVKING GO BOYS! ❤

  • @jesselove3715
    @jesselove3715 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before the camera focused on the notes, I could have sworn it was blank. Those would have been my notes. My bandmates make fun of me for looking at the paper not for the music but so crowd perception is that I am focused on the music... @18:35

  • @gabebabe1
    @gabebabe1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dylan’s was the most musical, left space and added to the song. Both of the others filled every space with pure drum wankery and would have been thrown out of my studio.

  • @P-J-W-777
    @P-J-W-777 ปีที่แล้ว

    I they should have been given a bigger drum kit. I think the song would have worked even better if they didn’t have to focus almost entirely on the snare. Concert Tom’s are still the &^#!…
    You really can’t beat their sound in a live concert.

  • @jesseivey1293
    @jesseivey1293 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All the drummers did way better than I would have, but I feel Dave performed the song the best. Out of ALL the guys that played it, Kyle did the best and even dropped his stick and didn't loose tempo or anything. WIN FOR KYLE!

  • @Dotz_Sumimasen
    @Dotz_Sumimasen ปีที่แล้ว

    For me - Dylan, Dave & by a bit of a margin then Brandon.
    Just felt Brandon’s was too in my face and felt like it was too showy.
    Dylan’s take felt comforting to me and Dave’s cymbals were at a level I wish Brandon had been at.