Korean 11 year olds going through 12 hour school days sounds insane ngl. There’s no way it’s healthy for a kid to be expected to devote that much time to school to the point of only getting 6 hours of sleep a night. Like, they’re 11 let them play with their friends or something
It's why loneliness and suicide rates are going up and up... You overwork and underappreciate your kids... Either they become a doctor or they snap,sometimes both
@@aureus79 the suicide rates are from the obscene amount of pressures these kids are put through to achieve so much during their early lives. So much pressure to do well many kids kill themselves during exam season. If that doesn't seem like a problem to people and showcases how we should let these kids be more like kids idk what will
That's how you get to the point of having one of the strongest economies in the world. You wanna put in third-rate effort, you'll get a third-rate country
Taiwanese here, this is all very true, I remember starting form... I don't know, 8? 7? I got put into a daycare school which exclusive taught you only to speak in English and Japanese starting from 9~5, and in junior school its like wake up in 6, mum drive me to school which starts at 7, it goes all the way till 5 in the afternoon, then after school drives a bus to us, get us all hoped in, we then get carried to the after school, have dinner there, then we'd attempt to finish homework at there till 7. Then, we'd start learning maths and English and Japanese, till 9, then if your parents paid (mine did), we'd have violin lessons till 10, then, finally my parents would come and pick me up, I'd arrive home at 11. Then, I'd continue to attempt to finish my homework, by the time I am done, its like 12~1am, I'd go to sleep, and this would repeat every day 5 days a week. Then, on the weekends mum would send me to Chinese chess lessons and piano lessons, so I don't "lose" to other asian kids. Mind you, you might think the english/japanese lessons helped, it didn't. I spoke no English until my parents figured "damn our kid isnt improving in score, he must be retarded, lets send him to the UK to study". God no wonder me and every other Asian grew up socially stunted
Addition to the "send to uk to study part" my parent's logic is the westerners are all stupid, if we send you to the west, you won't look at retarded, while extremely racist, it is a very common thought in Asia, and Ironically, being sent to the UK for a whole 10 years with out returning has have me regained my childhood freedom, improved me as a human and, well, actually learn to speak English.
Addition 2, when at summer and winter holiday, my parents would again send me to school so you can learn about what you were suppose to learn next, additional to whatever skill your parents jam down your throat, be it piano, chess, drawing or anything else, some would even send you to these month long study camps. Anyway, I knew my parents had the best of intentions, but having my view and personality molded at the UK, I can safely say my childhood was miserable and I genuinely don't remember going on a holiday at all when I was a kid.
I worked in Taiwan until recently and I can second this, my Taiwanese co-workers and friends really just sent out their children to study seven days a week! Like damn, I thought my middle school experience was messed up, but at least I got to chill on weekends
I'm a Taiwanese born in the US. My Taiwanese friends tell me that they barely have time to pursue any of their interests. One of my friends really wants to learn guitar. Here in the US, parents would go "sure, go for it that's a super productive activity." My friend's parents tells her that if she learns guitar she won't have enough time for cram school. She's a high schooler and her life is dictated by homework and exams. Can't even learn guitar if she asked.
I work in Japan as a conversation Eng teacher. A few years back a teacher came over from Korea, hes American and was teaching Eng there then came to the company i work at. He legit would walk around between classes with a carrot or smt in his mouth eating/snacking bc he was so used to the Korean workstyle of a 20min or so lunchbreak. The manager had to sit him down and tell him he legally had to take an hour break for lunch or theyd likely get in trouble. Took him half a year to get used to it.
I remember a Japanese exchange student at my school. Guy was in 8th grade, but was put into every 12th grade class alongside us. He breezed through every assignment and went to sleep every class period. I get the feeling he was in a similar boat lmao
All the exchange students I ever spoke with (Eu and S Korea) always recommended their friends do it when they went back. It was pretty much a year long vacation.
American school is selectively hard. It REALLY depends on where you get sent to and what your parents make you do. You could do barely any work at an underfunded inner city public school or.. You could do 3 to 7 hours of homework everyday at a competitive feeder school + all AP classes + sports every season it REALLY depends
To add on, some kids barely go to school in the first place now. There's constant "vacations" and "conference days" in my local school district, to the point that the school year is effectively only 78 days in total. And the parents don't even seem to care.
While there's something to be said about the Korean education system and its rigorousness. I think the question we should be asking ourselves is: "Is the country better off because of it?" It's really easy to be like "My nine year old knows how to do calculus," and kind of glorify that type of learning, but at the end of the day does that benefit the child at all in their career? Are Korean scientists so far ahead Canadian or American ones that they're making all of these inventions and discoveries while we're falling behind? I would argue not really. Not enough to justify a child living that kind of life at least. If you think about it you could have a Korean child who goes through this system and learns all of these things and then becomes a hairdresser. Is there anything wrong with being a hairdresser? No, not at all. In fact, it's a job that needs to be done. There are essential jobs that need to be done (that get unjustly trashed) in our society that don't require that type of learning. I mean even the jobs we glorify like engineers and researches don't require that kind of learning.
It's not better off. South Korea is a nightmare to live in. The adult culture is screwed up, everyone is high strung and friendless. You screw up, you're done. The country is ruled by a monopoly due to bad choices.
The education system is so obsessed with cramming kids with academic knowledge that they never let a kid be a kid and play, be social, go outside. It can socially stunt the child and prevent/slow down some very important developments. School is also obsessed with kids doing well in school and getting good grades. It teaches kids failure is never an option and leaves them in a very fragile bubble once they do feel what failure is like in life. And instead of learning how to get back up they have to process what failure even feels like because they grew up in a system where failure was bad. There is no reason for a kid to have homework, playing outside, talking with friends, being with their family is education it self, it's teaching the kid was life is like, what's it about and how to be a functioning member of the world they live in. They don't need to spend another 2 hours at home solving math question. The fact kids hate school is it self a big red flag when it comes to how well the system works and instead of blaming kids for not liking school, the system needs to adapt and change to follow and understand what a kid needs to grow. Playing, just as an example, is a vital part of their development and we treat it like wasting time and instead force them to learn stuff they won't even retain, or if they do will be a socially stunted person who never got to play and talk with other kids their age. Baby lions and tigers play, for them, play is hunting, they learn how to hunt through play, imagine you forced a tiger down to learn how to sit instead and how to stand and then later expect him to know how to hunt. All in all, it's an outdated system that keeps getting new addition trying to adjust an already very poorly built foundation of a system and it needs a reform
Ain't no way you really think we should go easier on kids. In the korean and japanese sytem I get it but here in occident? School grades and performance are on the ground kids don't like and don't want to learn. They all just want to become influencers and youtubers and you are saying they don't get enough free time? Don't worry Chat GPT will help with that now your 15 yo that doesn't know what 7x8 is can just open an app and let it resolve their homework for them. They can all just play around and do nothing until they are 18 when they are ready to have a little bit of a harder time and idk have like 5 hour school where they actually have to learn something.
@@DajuSar I do think kids today aren’t exactly the most rigorous but it’s hardly their fault that many systems that the adults in their life created have failed them. Parents let them play on their iPads, their parents don’t supervise what their doing online, they can’t go outside because there are no parks or sidewalks. kids don’t like learning because all they feel they can do is be on their phone or do homework. Might as well use ChatGPT so they can be on their phone longer because their teacher will pass them anyway cuz they either don’t care or unable to do something about it. Kids should go outside more cuz they are very emotionally stunted and don’t know how to think for themselves and just blindly follow the path set for them.
@@DajuSar Like seriously, what the fuck. Ive spoken to quite a few 15 year olds trying to understand the problem with youth, and all of them just think about fucking killing themselves, or insult others because they believe their species is abhorrent. What the fuck is wrong with you people? You are actually insane. I am seriously, mentally deranged, AND YOUR FUCKING MORE INSANE THAN ME??? WHAT THE FUCK
@@DajuSar i wonder if people not wanting to learn (they do) is because of the inherent non-consensual authoritative nature of the way schools are structured.
“There’s like a 5% chance a teacher actually has a vendetta against you.” Yah but with 20ish students in a class, statistically one of you is on their naughty list.
As someone from a family with 4 teachers/professors, they do in fact have people they hate, and are constantly talking about it with other family members/colleagues.
No guys, it's only a 5% chance they have a vendetta against you if you already feel they have a vendetta against you. It's not that all teachers have an equally likely chance of having a grudge against all students they ever teach
As a man whose father is a teacher and extremely conservative; no. No, he definitely remembers and hoss grudges, and will complain about specific students without naming them.
My understanding is that in Asian countries the school focus on memorisation rather than actual problem solving skills. A large proportion of Asian foreign students at my university (which is one of the best in my country) will breeze through coursework but do well below average on exams where the problems require thinking outside the box and a fundamental understanding of the material rather than just parroting textbook or past exam questions.
That's pretty fair as I come from an A-levels background and the strategy to excelling was doing all of the past papers as the questions are essentially the same, but we had to do essay writing which I personally enjoyed and that helped me with more creative side of college but I guess that varies from person to person
I didn't know they were supposed to call your parents when you got sent to the office. Every time I got sent to the office they just told me to wait there until the next class started. (also, for the record I wasn't that crazy of a child, I got sent to the office for like... singing to much at lunch and whatnot. It was very tame things)
I think the most annoying thing about Canadian school for me (other than the other students) was the homework. Not that there was an overwhelming about of it, but the fact that we did so little in class and comparatively so much out of class. They would always start new stuff at the very end of class and force us to do it for homework. And it wasn't crazy amounts of work, but I just wish we had spent the boring-ass class time doing that instead of doing it at home
Homework exists primarily to make you more comfortable with the idea of bringing work home with you during your personal time and less comfortable with setting work/life balance boundaries.
Homework should be done away with. I used to think maybe I felt that way just because I was a kid and I would get it someday, but now that I will have my own kids soon I just can't wrap my head around how we expect kids to go to school for 8 hours, then sports practice for another 2 hours then expect them to work on homework at home for additional hours most nights. Honestly most high-school kids work a lot harder than most adults who have full time jobs, it seems like horseshit.
Reminder that Scandinavia has the best educational outcomes for children, and they have *less* class time and no homework. If we want the best education, we actually get rid of homework.
@@cole7274 Scandinavia has the best educational outcomes for children when you gauge best educational outcomes for children by "how scandinavian is your education system". China, South Korea, Singapore, Germany, New Zealand, Finland, Sweden and Norway are all countries I've seen top different tests for how good your education system is according to different metrics.
A little late to the party, but even if Scandinavian system is only arguably best, and not THE best, given that you don't actually need to torture your child for it to work, I think it sounds very reasonable.
@@Volodymyr.Yermakov Yeah, comparing things on just pure numbers is how you end up with a torturous school system. Kids are people to, they have emotional needs, and the lack of them being fulfilled with always lead to problems later in life even if they ace their tests.
I loved my AP Gov teacher cause she was so honest about this. She ended the year off not being super sentimental and put the idea that "I see you guys again each year, just with different faces." You're there for 4 years in High School, they're working there for decades.
When I was teaching here in Korea, one 10-11 year old kid explaining how rigorous her day was made me want to cry, she legitimately went home after 11pm.
I think Canada probably has the right idea. Make the programs available, but not mandatory. Kids that wanna learn are gonna seek knowledge and the kids that don’t are gonna get enrichment in other ways. My local own is that I was the only high school drop out amongst a 6 person friend group. My other 5 friends were all AP students who became conditioned to get their self worth from good grades. I think me and one other person ended up finishing college 🤷♀️
Nah that's not wrong. The downsides of the choose how much education you want is that the quality of teachers will affect how much kids want to learn. it'll always be kids who want to learn not learning because school sucks or doesn't teach them well.
I got like a 3.8 or something in HS taking all honors and AP classes, never had to study. Thought I was a genius until I got to college. Ended up dropping out junior year after finishing barely any credits. For an education system that's main focus is sending kids to college, they are doing a pretty poor job of it and are underserving both sides of the bell curve.
@@thames_music1219 i think home life plays a role too, my parents didn’t care much and I finished high school/final year of university while my friends parents all cared and they are struggling, I didn’t do AP, 2 of my friends did. This is all anecdotal tho
Ahh yes. That’s why Canada keeps re-electing the same piece of shit parliament and then complaining that they’re in office. Not to mention how you’re treated when you leave school.
I don't think that will work for everyone. I went to a Montessori school when I was younger, they use the same system, and when I was given the choice in what to do, I would just choose not to do anything. Granted, for the first few months of school I pretended to be illiterate so they wouldn't make me do actual coursework, so I might be an exception, but this clearly only works for a subset of children, and isn't the best approach for all of them. In fact, I'm not sure if it's even that effective for children that "wanna learn". Everyone does better with structure and guidance, and knowing what's expected of them.
0:44 I can't believe Ryan listens to Andrew Jackson Jihad. What's crazier is that I just relistened to that album yesterday after a very very long time
Especially homework should be done away with. Let the kids relax when at home at least. Even as a grown adult that has to bring my work home with me sometimes, get burned out real quick without clear, delineated periods of rest.
I am currently going back to university to finish my degree, and it reminded me of one of the reasons I dropped out of college originally. Homework. When I go to my job, my work is a set period of time each day, and when I get home it is over. With my classes, on the other hand, I go to classes for a set period of time every day and then have a variable amount of time I have to spend at my home continuing my education. I absolutely hate this, and not having a consistent amount of free time really messes with my mental health and work-school-life balance.
@@jerico1299 That's why you should be learning something you are intrested in. Like I study the whole day too, but I actually kinda like it since it's about thing I enjoy.
@ivansyomkin2156 I am studying something I am interested in. It is just difficult when I can't work full time because of school, and can't afford school if I don't work. That combined with the fact these time commitments put a strain on my relationship with my wife and it just kinda makes me hate it. I like to say that I love learning, but I hate school.
@@ivansyomkin2156 It doesn't matter how interested in the subject itself. You could have a terrible lecturer and that just kills all the enjoyment. Having to stress about exams day in day out also kills enjoyment.
The reason why I just couldn't finish uni... It was just too much (for me). The permanent stress of "having to do SOMETHING" and even if you don't, you could still be studying / becoming better so you don't have to cram as much later on. That is also a HUGE problem with the whole "self improvement" movements and productivity people online. When you go to the gym, you don't start at 6 days a week full on 100% training. Even if you're a pro, you're not training on 100% capacity for very long AT ALL, because you know what happens when you do: your body starts falling apart. We need rest and just as our bodies do, our mind does as well. After a few years, I just couldn't take it anymore. I hated school so much (also ADHD doesn't really help there) and I hated homework the most. I always thought of it this way: If I go to school for 6-10 hours a day, I should be done with school and working for that day. There should be NO REASON why I should have to work even more when I get home, after 8 hours of boredom and having to sit still. If I have to do all the work at home, why the fuck am I going to school in the first place? (Uni in a nutshell btw)
I grew up in thailand and we basically got the same system. My younger sister study nonstop from 8AM - 9PM (school and two different tutoring centers). Then she comes home, eat, and go do her homework till 1AM. The worst part? The kindergarten also offer afterschool tutoring (wtf are kindergarten tutoring for?). Its terrible because there is tremendous societal pressure for you to attend these afterschool tutoring. People who don't are view as not being serious about their education or stupid kids.
Tfw I stressed myself out over 1hr of homework a night and put it off until the very last minute every single time to the point where I turned in basically everything late
The first part is true especially how kids can be absolute brats but I would like to take a moment to say that teacher bullies do exist and I feel like it should be seriously addressed more often
I grew up in the US, Washington DC, and it was somewhat similar. I went to a private, all boys school and was there from 6:30am-4pm and would be up doing homework until midnight every day from 3rd-8th grade. Also in my area its way more important where you went to high school than college so age 12-14 was the most stressful time of my schooling career.
as someone who grew up about where i think you did, i went to a private catholic school k-8 and there was real pressure there to get into a top private catholic school that dominated especially the "middle school" years. it definitely wasn't as bad as your school though i was one of the few from my class who went to public school and i think i'm doing pretty well for myself. pretty much a waste of money to go to a private high school tbh
I tried that korean education, could not go on more than 1 year. The most depressing years of my 30 year life, dont remember most memories but year in korea is like a hellish trauma. Its literally hell.
The thing about teachers is that you’re right that _most_ of the time, they’re just doing their job and can’t wait to get their work day over with (which can be a problem in its own way). They probably don’t have it out for any of the students, but that doesn’t mean they don’t have favorites. _Every_ teacher will have a few students that they think are the good ones and a few they’ll see as bad apples. They won’t give the bad apples as much of a chance to grow in their classes and this favoritism is what students interpret as the teachers having a vendetta against them. It’s not that they twirl their mustache and think of ways to ruins the student’s life, but in some ways it’s worse. It’s sheer apathy and disinterest.
I went to school in SK from ages 11-12, and my college homework is still less stressful than my middle school homework. I was lucky too, and my parents did not make me go to hagwon. However, there were kids in my classes who fell asleep, and their eyes were bloodshot. The SK school system is very sad.
I feel like the function of school should be to deliver the basics in a wide variety of skills, and to genuinely challenge students to get them to be intellectually curious, independent, worldly, and knowledgeable. It should not be overwhelming, depressing, panic-inducing, or super easy, barely an inconvenience. It's a tough balance, but I think in the US the culture has shift way too much towards removing any stress from school life.
Yeah US school system is a joke, you can do the bare minimum fail some classes do some homework after you failed the cvlass and you can move on like that until college, thats really derpessing
Those learning hours should be reserved for those who want and that are the smartest of the smartest. No way in hell should anyone normal ever do those hours for learning. Not even work's this shit.
i think its kinda the classic "well i got a bio degree idk what to do with my life, guess ill go to korea to each english then" for some new experiences. i believe he met k8 in canada because she moved and grew up there when she was young
i have done 2 (two) hours of non-mandatory studying in my entire life and i got all A*s in the subject i wanted to do in uni (chemistry), this whole thing is so extremely foreign to me 😭
According to a friend their grade school was completely un-air conditioned and didn’t even have cold water! They made up for it by chewing that blackblack menthol gum
I attended Canadian French school and it seems like kind of an in between of both. We started calculus ~5th to 6th grade and it was expected that each kid would have 30 more minutes of homework per year so in 6th grade ~3 hours of work every night. But when I moved on to the French highschool it was maybe an hour, way easier and much better teachers.
All of those hours and still ranked lower than the US in testing and learning education is not about how hard it's supposed to be its supposed to be how well the kids can learn
Teachers definitely do get petty vendettas sometimes. Prime example I once I had a teacher tell me they refuse to ever let me pass their class. They would refuse to help anytime I asked. I even copied my friends assignment and got a failing grade while they got 80%. If another student was helping me understand the material they would move me away from them. It goes on. His own kids got 100% in the class too btw. There are for sure teachers who pick on students.
To be fair, it's not just the poor mrs fucking robertson who has to work after school is over. Students have homework to do as well. God, just imagine leaving work and knowing that you still have to do work when you get home. Fuck that. Thank god school is over, I'm so much happier when my work life and my off time life are completely separate and exist in different dimensions. When my worktime is over I want to shift into a different state of being and pretend that shit doesn't exist. And I don't even hate my job. It's just, fuck it, I can't imagine mixing the two could be healthy for anyone.
Yep. They’re just doing a job. Same when you go to a restaurant and engage the host or server, or hire a contractor to do some work around the house. Respect their space and be polite. Beyond that, don’t fantasize. You’ll be strangers soon enough again.
In 6th form which is equivelant to college in the UK, we only learn calculus then but I think if we had the concepts and basic levels introduced at like gcse level, it would benefit the UK system. Unfortunately we all know what would be best but there is politics. I'd like to as there's logistics but there really isnt'.
You can learn a bit of differentiation at gcse in optional advanced courses although idk if most schools offer that. Also I think their college is what we call University and sixth form is closer to high school?
i had a teacher who had a vendetta against me because she thought having a husband with type 2 diabetes qualified her to make decisions on whether i should be allowed to go to the nurse's office with type 1 when i told her i needed to go. she got in trouble with the principal because i told my parents and from that point on she noticeably treated me differently.
no clue where this idea of HUSTLIN' comes from, the idea that every child should be forced into hours upon hours of work equals them becoming smarter is just verifiably false. The majority of hyper successful people (think bill gates etc.) come from Montessori schools which are literally opposite to this hustle mentality. IMO it's probably the quality of the challenge that really matters. Not the quantity of the information memorised. Think about it, if your education and skills can be replaced with the ctrl+c & ctrl+v combo, you really didn't learn anything. Ofc that's not the whole story, stuff like home life and economics play a big factor but I'd argue south east asian + east asian mentalities are really warped and kind of disturbing when it comes to education.
honestly as an American in retrospect i would have much preferred my life to be a nightmare from like 12-18 in terms of education and then have something to show for it at the end, instead of the reverse system where school is piss easy until like junior year of college and you feel like you dont really get much in return.
@@loganbivins2438 Bro what? First year of high school is standard for learning calculus where I'm from in EU. 6th year is a bit crazy because their not even 10 yet but you start to learn exponents then in preparation and even can start the best students on differentiation or chain rule.
@@acksawblack you do it if you actually want to. I moved to the U.S and in 10th grade, they enroll me in some algebra class i have studied before by default. So next year i just enrolled in AP cal, so you can skip that class and receive credit in college. So its all up to you actually.
As an American, the vast majority of people where I live never take a calculus class and leave school with a tentative grasp on basic algebra if they're lucky.
NL has a significant lack of understanding of the impact these teachers have on the formative years of their students. To an adult it's just one year, to a child it's more than 10% of their life
American schools are generally shit, American college and post-graduate education is the better than anywhere else in the world though so it balances it out
American school is shit in the sense that it's on average well below most any other comparable nation, and shit when you get into the nitty-gritty of different areas. The main problem is how funding is allocated for public schools, wherein local property taxes determines the school's quality. If you live in a rural area in the southeast, your education is going to be very different than if you live in the northwest urban cities. Consider how varied the educational outcomes can be, and remember that any kind of government class is more of a rarity. We're also moving in the opposite direction of fixing the problem. We continue to pay educators less and less, and we continue to work students harder, when the best educational outcomes come from Scandinavian countries where students have less class time and little to no homework.
@@cole7274it’s only shit because of our .5 average gpa inner city schools fuck up our averages. Scandinavian countries’ schools have better outcomes cause they don’t have to deal with our demographics
it doesnt sound so bad when you count breakfast lunch dinner multiple breaks sports instruments after that its mostly just normal school hours imo its similar to when i went to school for a bit
Thats what is done also here in Greece. But the worst here is in highschool. Then at least in uni we get to slack off (kinda, but not the medical and most STEM majors)
@Aureus Even in middle school, it kinda is, relative to other countries, if you wanna have a good grade. And in highschool you get fucked 24/7 (escpecially from the 2nd year onwards)
It is almost impossible to generalize about american education because its actually 50 education systems but one of the defining features is cycles of poverty and abuse that would shock the rest of the developed world
@youtubehasbigcringe lol this is the opposite of the kid who thinks the teachers live at the school They bring it from the rest of their lives, kids aren't known for having the best coping mechanisms so everything fucked up that happens to kids doesn't just go away. Schools in the US on the one hand can get sophisticated enough that other countries still try to emulate them. But on the other you still have kids going hungry or homeless and getting lead poisoning
@@alexanderjmihalich8525 usually the extreme negative outliers for schools can be attributed to certain demographics making up the entirety of the staff and student body
Korean 11 year olds going through 12 hour school days sounds insane ngl. There’s no way it’s healthy for a kid to be expected to devote that much time to school to the point of only getting 6 hours of sleep a night. Like, they’re 11 let them play with their friends or something
there's a reason suicide rates are so high
It's why loneliness and suicide rates are going up and up... You overwork and underappreciate your kids... Either they become a doctor or they snap,sometimes both
@@aureus79 the suicide rates are from the obscene amount of pressures these kids are put through to achieve so much during their early lives. So much pressure to do well many kids kill themselves during exam season. If that doesn't seem like a problem to people and showcases how we should let these kids be more like kids idk what will
Yeah it's horrible for the kids. SK has the highest suicide rate for young people in the world for a reason.
That's how you get to the point of having one of the strongest economies in the world. You wanna put in third-rate effort, you'll get a third-rate country
Taiwanese here, this is all very true, I remember starting form... I don't know, 8? 7? I got put into a daycare school which exclusive taught you only to speak in English and Japanese starting from 9~5, and in junior school its like wake up in 6, mum drive me to school which starts at 7, it goes all the way till 5 in the afternoon, then after school drives a bus to us, get us all hoped in, we then get carried to the after school, have dinner there, then we'd attempt to finish homework at there till 7.
Then, we'd start learning maths and English and Japanese, till 9, then if your parents paid (mine did), we'd have violin lessons till 10, then, finally my parents would come and pick me up, I'd arrive home at 11.
Then, I'd continue to attempt to finish my homework, by the time I am done, its like 12~1am, I'd go to sleep, and this would repeat every day 5 days a week.
Then, on the weekends mum would send me to Chinese chess lessons and piano lessons, so I don't "lose" to other asian kids.
Mind you, you might think the english/japanese lessons helped, it didn't. I spoke no English until my parents figured "damn our kid isnt improving in score, he must be retarded, lets send him to the UK to study".
God no wonder me and every other Asian grew up socially stunted
Addition to the "send to uk to study part" my parent's logic is the westerners are all stupid, if we send you to the west, you won't look at retarded, while extremely racist, it is a very common thought in Asia, and Ironically, being sent to the UK for a whole 10 years with out returning has have me regained my childhood freedom, improved me as a human and, well, actually learn to speak English.
Addition 2, when at summer and winter holiday, my parents would again send me to school so you can learn about what you were suppose to learn next, additional to whatever skill your parents jam down your throat, be it piano, chess, drawing or anything else, some would even send you to these month long study camps.
Anyway, I knew my parents had the best of intentions, but having my view and personality molded at the UK, I can safely say my childhood was miserable and I genuinely don't remember going on a holiday at all when I was a kid.
I worked in Taiwan until recently and I can second this, my Taiwanese co-workers and friends really just sent out their children to study seven days a week! Like damn, I thought my middle school experience was messed up, but at least I got to chill on weekends
im sorry for your loss
I'm a Taiwanese born in the US. My Taiwanese friends tell me that they barely have time to pursue any of their interests. One of my friends really wants to learn guitar. Here in the US, parents would go "sure, go for it that's a super productive activity." My friend's parents tells her that if she learns guitar she won't have enough time for cram school.
She's a high schooler and her life is dictated by homework and exams. Can't even learn guitar if she asked.
I work in Japan as a conversation Eng teacher. A few years back a teacher came over from Korea, hes American and was teaching Eng there then came to the company i work at. He legit would walk around between classes with a carrot or smt in his mouth eating/snacking bc he was so used to the Korean workstyle of a 20min or so lunchbreak. The manager had to sit him down and tell him he legally had to take an hour break for lunch or theyd likely get in trouble. Took him half a year to get used to it.
Complete opposite when I worked in Korea, if you skipped the group lunch time, people would be freaking out or gossip hard.
I remember a Japanese exchange student at my school. Guy was in 8th grade, but was put into every 12th grade class alongside us. He breezed through every assignment and went to sleep every class period. I get the feeling he was in a similar boat lmao
nice that he got a little break though
@@powfoot4946 until he returns and needs to work even harder to catch up
All the exchange students I ever spoke with (Eu and S Korea) always recommended their friends do it when they went back. It was pretty much a year long vacation.
Hush
Americans having 4+ months of break in a year is what has us cooked imo
birthrate in the tank, toxic work culture, world stat leading teenage depression, totally worth
American school is selectively hard. It REALLY depends on where you get sent to and what your parents make you do.
You could do barely any work at an underfunded inner city public school
or..
You could do 3 to 7 hours of homework everyday at a competitive feeder school + all AP classes + sports every season
it REALLY depends
To add on, some kids barely go to school in the first place now. There's constant "vacations" and "conference days" in my local school district, to the point that the school year is effectively only 78 days in total. And the parents don't even seem to care.
While there's something to be said about the Korean education system and its rigorousness. I think the question we should be asking ourselves is: "Is the country better off because of it?" It's really easy to be like "My nine year old knows how to do calculus," and kind of glorify that type of learning, but at the end of the day does that benefit the child at all in their career? Are Korean scientists so far ahead Canadian or American ones that they're making all of these inventions and discoveries while we're falling behind? I would argue not really. Not enough to justify a child living that kind of life at least.
If you think about it you could have a Korean child who goes through this system and learns all of these things and then becomes a hairdresser. Is there anything wrong with being a hairdresser? No, not at all. In fact, it's a job that needs to be done. There are essential jobs that need to be done (that get unjustly trashed) in our society that don't require that type of learning. I mean even the jobs we glorify like engineers and researches don't require that kind of learning.
I wonder if the social life or lack thereof of Korean and Japanese adults has anything to do with the way they are raised hmm
It's not better off. South Korea is a nightmare to live in. The adult culture is screwed up, everyone is high strung and friendless. You screw up, you're done. The country is ruled by a monopoly due to bad choices.
If you look at actual academic output and social conditions the answer is definitely not lol
The kid from the last anecdote might have learned about Rommel in NZ, because they fought in the North African campaign
Ya exactly. Go ask him about the Italian campaign in 1944 and he's gonna look at you like you have 3 heads.
hello ryan, teacher
1:55 "I have a deep voice, I don't have that kind of demeanor." Uhhhhh, can we check the log on what this man sounded like in 2010/2011???
"I'm not an enthusiastic guy" literally seconds later gets excited about getting hit in a brightly coloured game designed for kids
@@brzt4256 not even seconds 😂 "I LOVE TAIL TAG!!"
The education system is so obsessed with cramming kids with academic knowledge that they never let a kid be a kid and play, be social, go outside. It can socially stunt the child and prevent/slow down some very important developments. School is also obsessed with kids doing well in school and getting good grades. It teaches kids failure is never an option and leaves them in a very fragile bubble once they do feel what failure is like in life. And instead of learning how to get back up they have to process what failure even feels like because they grew up in a system where failure was bad. There is no reason for a kid to have homework, playing outside, talking with friends, being with their family is education it self, it's teaching the kid was life is like, what's it about and how to be a functioning member of the world they live in. They don't need to spend another 2 hours at home solving math question. The fact kids hate school is it self a big red flag when it comes to how well the system works and instead of blaming kids for not liking school, the system needs to adapt and change to follow and understand what a kid needs to grow. Playing, just as an example, is a vital part of their development and we treat it like wasting time and instead force them to learn stuff they won't even retain, or if they do will be a socially stunted person who never got to play and talk with other kids their age. Baby lions and tigers play, for them, play is hunting, they learn how to hunt through play, imagine you forced a tiger down to learn how to sit instead and how to stand and then later expect him to know how to hunt. All in all, it's an outdated system that keeps getting new addition trying to adjust an already very poorly built foundation of a system and it needs a reform
Ain't no way you really think we should go easier on kids. In the korean and japanese sytem I get it but here in occident? School grades and performance are on the ground kids don't like and don't want to learn. They all just want to become influencers and youtubers and you are saying they don't get enough free time? Don't worry Chat GPT will help with that now your 15 yo that doesn't know what 7x8 is can just open an app and let it resolve their homework for them.
They can all just play around and do nothing until they are 18 when they are ready to have a little bit of a harder time and idk have like 5 hour school where they actually have to learn something.
@@DajuSar I do think kids today aren’t exactly the most rigorous but it’s hardly their fault that many systems that the adults in their life created have failed them. Parents let them play on their iPads, their parents don’t supervise what their doing online, they can’t go outside because there are no parks or sidewalks. kids don’t like learning because all they feel they can do is be on their phone or do homework. Might as well use ChatGPT so they can be on their phone longer because their teacher will pass them anyway cuz they either don’t care or unable to do something about it. Kids should go outside more cuz they are very emotionally stunted and don’t know how to think for themselves and just blindly follow the path set for them.
@@DajuSar Like seriously, what the fuck. Ive spoken to quite a few 15 year olds trying to understand the problem with youth, and all of them just think about fucking killing themselves, or insult others because they believe their species is abhorrent. What the fuck is wrong with you people? You are actually insane. I am seriously, mentally deranged, AND YOUR FUCKING MORE INSANE THAN ME??? WHAT THE FUCK
@@DajuSar Doesn't matter what you think, the system clearly doesn't work.
@@DajuSar i wonder if people not wanting to learn (they do) is because of the inherent non-consensual authoritative nature of the way schools are structured.
“There’s like a 5% chance a teacher actually has a vendetta against you.” Yah but with 20ish students in a class, statistically one of you is on their naughty list.
This guy is smart 😮
As someone from a family with 4 teachers/professors, they do in fact have people they hate, and are constantly talking about it with other family members/colleagues.
And if you have 5 classes every year for 4 years, statistically one class its gonna be you
No guys, it's only a 5% chance they have a vendetta against you if you already feel they have a vendetta against you. It's not that all teachers have an equally likely chance of having a grudge against all students they ever teach
As a man whose father is a teacher and extremely conservative; no. No, he definitely remembers and hoss grudges, and will complain about specific students without naming them.
My understanding is that in Asian countries the school focus on memorisation rather than actual problem solving skills. A large proportion of Asian foreign students at my university (which is one of the best in my country) will breeze through coursework but do well below average on exams where the problems require thinking outside the box and a fundamental understanding of the material rather than just parroting textbook or past exam questions.
That's pretty fair as I come from an A-levels background and the strategy to excelling was doing all of the past papers as the questions are essentially the same, but we had to do essay writing which I personally enjoyed and that helped me with more creative side of college but I guess that varies from person to person
@@TheLibraryofLetourneau British lul
@@TheLibraryofLetourneau hey man I'm sorry for saying that I know you can't help that you're British
@@ChicaneryBear standard british L
@@ChicaneryBearwhat character growth, truly inspiring
I didn't know they were supposed to call your parents when you got sent to the office. Every time I got sent to the office they just told me to wait there until the next class started.
(also, for the record I wasn't that crazy of a child, I got sent to the office for like... singing to much at lunch and whatnot. It was very tame things)
I think the most annoying thing about Canadian school for me (other than the other students) was the homework. Not that there was an overwhelming about of it, but the fact that we did so little in class and comparatively so much out of class. They would always start new stuff at the very end of class and force us to do it for homework. And it wasn't crazy amounts of work, but I just wish we had spent the boring-ass class time doing that instead of doing it at home
i thought maybe i was just dumb, but i guess that was our curriculum by design? god everything about canada is awful
@@guymann1660this is what bagged milk does to a nation.
Homework exists primarily to make you more comfortable with the idea of bringing work home with you during your personal time and less comfortable with setting work/life balance boundaries.
Currently in Korea. This is all completely accurate.
nl singing ajj out of nowhere was unexpected ngl
edit: never mind i forgot that was simon and garfunkel first
I thought the same lol
So that's why the depression rate over there is so crazy
Homework should be done away with. I used to think maybe I felt that way just because I was a kid and I would get it someday, but now that I will have my own kids soon I just can't wrap my head around how we expect kids to go to school for 8 hours, then sports practice for another 2 hours then expect them to work on homework at home for additional hours most nights. Honestly most high-school kids work a lot harder than most adults who have full time jobs, it seems like horseshit.
Reminder that Scandinavia has the best educational outcomes for children, and they have *less* class time and no homework. If we want the best education, we actually get rid of homework.
@@cole7274 Scandinavia has the best educational outcomes for children when you gauge best educational outcomes for children by "how scandinavian is your education system".
China, South Korea, Singapore, Germany, New Zealand, Finland, Sweden and Norway are all countries I've seen top different tests for how good your education system is according to different metrics.
@@cole7274 *Sweden
A little late to the party, but even if Scandinavian system is only arguably best, and not THE best, given that you don't actually need to torture your child for it to work, I think it sounds very reasonable.
@@Volodymyr.Yermakov Yeah, comparing things on just pure numbers is how you end up with a torturous school system. Kids are people to, they have emotional needs, and the lack of them being fulfilled with always lead to problems later in life even if they ace their tests.
I loved my AP Gov teacher cause she was so honest about this. She ended the year off not being super sentimental and put the idea that "I see you guys again each year, just with different faces." You're there for 4 years in High School, they're working there for decades.
When I was teaching here in Korea, one 10-11 year old kid explaining how rigorous her day was made me want to cry, she legitimately went home after 11pm.
I think Canada probably has the right idea. Make the programs available, but not mandatory. Kids that wanna learn are gonna seek knowledge and the kids that don’t are gonna get enrichment in other ways.
My local own is that I was the only high school drop out amongst a 6 person friend group. My other 5 friends were all AP students who became conditioned to get their self worth from good grades. I think me and one other person ended up finishing college 🤷♀️
Nah that's not wrong.
The downsides of the choose how much education you want is that the quality of teachers will affect how much kids want to learn. it'll always be kids who want to learn not learning because school sucks or doesn't teach them well.
I got like a 3.8 or something in HS taking all honors and AP classes, never had to study. Thought I was a genius until I got to college. Ended up dropping out junior year after finishing barely any credits. For an education system that's main focus is sending kids to college, they are doing a pretty poor job of it and are underserving both sides of the bell curve.
@@thames_music1219 i think home life plays a role too, my parents didn’t care much and I finished high school/final year of university while my friends parents all cared and they are struggling, I didn’t do AP, 2 of my friends did. This is all anecdotal tho
Ahh yes. That’s why Canada keeps re-electing the same piece of shit parliament and then complaining that they’re in office. Not to mention how you’re treated when you leave school.
I don't think that will work for everyone. I went to a Montessori school when I was younger, they use the same system, and when I was given the choice in what to do, I would just choose not to do anything. Granted, for the first few months of school I pretended to be illiterate so they wouldn't make me do actual coursework, so I might be an exception, but this clearly only works for a subset of children, and isn't the best approach for all of them. In fact, I'm not sure if it's even that effective for children that "wanna learn". Everyone does better with structure and guidance, and knowing what's expected of them.
0:44 I can't believe Ryan listens to Andrew Jackson Jihad. What's crazier is that I just relistened to that album yesterday after a very very long time
"idc" the suicide statistics says otherwise
Especially homework should be done away with. Let the kids relax when at home at least. Even as a grown adult that has to bring my work home with me sometimes, get burned out real quick without clear, delineated periods of rest.
I am currently going back to university to finish my degree, and it reminded me of one of the reasons I dropped out of college originally. Homework.
When I go to my job, my work is a set period of time each day, and when I get home it is over.
With my classes, on the other hand, I go to classes for a set period of time every day and then have a variable amount of time I have to spend at my home continuing my education. I absolutely hate this, and not having a consistent amount of free time really messes with my mental health and work-school-life balance.
@@jerico1299 That's why you should be learning something you are intrested in. Like I study the whole day too, but I actually kinda like it since it's about thing I enjoy.
@ivansyomkin2156 I am studying something I am interested in. It is just difficult when I can't work full time because of school, and can't afford school if I don't work. That combined with the fact these time commitments put a strain on my relationship with my wife and it just kinda makes me hate it.
I like to say that I love learning, but I hate school.
@@ivansyomkin2156 It doesn't matter how interested in the subject itself. You could have a terrible lecturer and that just kills all the enjoyment. Having to stress about exams day in day out also kills enjoyment.
The reason why I just couldn't finish uni... It was just too much (for me). The permanent stress of "having to do SOMETHING" and even if you don't, you could still be studying / becoming better so you don't have to cram as much later on.
That is also a HUGE problem with the whole "self improvement" movements and productivity people online.
When you go to the gym, you don't start at 6 days a week full on 100% training. Even if you're a pro, you're not training on 100% capacity for very long AT ALL, because you know what happens when you do: your body starts falling apart.
We need rest and just as our bodies do, our mind does as well.
After a few years, I just couldn't take it anymore. I hated school so much (also ADHD doesn't really help there) and I hated homework the most. I always thought of it this way: If I go to school for 6-10 hours a day, I should be done with school and working for that day. There should be NO REASON why I should have to work even more when I get home, after 8 hours of boredom and having to sit still.
If I have to do all the work at home, why the fuck am I going to school in the first place? (Uni in a nutshell btw)
I grew up in thailand and we basically got the same system. My younger sister study nonstop from 8AM - 9PM (school and two different tutoring centers). Then she comes home, eat, and go do her homework till 1AM. The worst part? The kindergarten also offer afterschool tutoring (wtf are kindergarten tutoring for?). Its terrible because there is tremendous societal pressure for you to attend these afterschool tutoring. People who don't are view as not being serious about their education or stupid kids.
Tfw I stressed myself out over 1hr of homework a night and put it off until the very last minute every single time to the point where I turned in basically everything late
I made good enough grades to where I literally just wouldnt do homework. Ain't nobody got time for that.
The first part is true especially how kids can be absolute brats but I would like to take a moment to say that teacher bullies do exist and I feel like it should be seriously addressed more often
never ask a man his salary, a woman her age, and northernlion his thoughts on the academic system
I grew up in the US, Washington DC, and it was somewhat similar. I went to a private, all boys school and was there from 6:30am-4pm and would be up doing homework until midnight every day from 3rd-8th grade. Also in my area its way more important where you went to high school than college so age 12-14 was the most stressful time of my schooling career.
as someone who grew up about where i think you did, i went to a private catholic school k-8 and there was real pressure there to get into a top private catholic school that dominated especially the "middle school" years. it definitely wasn't as bad as your school though
i was one of the few from my class who went to public school and i think i'm doing pretty well for myself. pretty much a waste of money to go to a private high school tbh
I tried that korean education, could not go on more than 1 year. The most depressing years of my 30 year life, dont remember most memories but year in korea is like a hellish trauma. Its literally hell.
I believe it 100%
I often tell my friend that our time in school felt like prison, but we just didn't know it.
Now that I started teaching ESL, I feel like NL is talking to me personally. All of that shit is true.
The thumbnail is awful. 12 hour school days are not good or "based"
Jenny is probably a K-Pop star and we have NL to thank for that suffering.
She went from NL protégée to Blackpink idol.
The thing about teachers is that you’re right that _most_ of the time, they’re just doing their job and can’t wait to get their work day over with (which can be a problem in its own way). They probably don’t have it out for any of the students, but that doesn’t mean they don’t have favorites. _Every_ teacher will have a few students that they think are the good ones and a few they’ll see as bad apples. They won’t give the bad apples as much of a chance to grow in their classes and this favoritism is what students interpret as the teachers having a vendetta against them. It’s not that they twirl their mustache and think of ways to ruins the student’s life, but in some ways it’s worse. It’s sheer apathy and disinterest.
I'm currently a full time academy teacher and honestly, what this guy describes being a teacher in the beginning is beyond accurate 😂
"there needs to be a phisolophical change in the school system"
**starts talking about lunchbreak times** 😂😂
I went to school in SK from ages 11-12, and my college homework is still less stressful than my middle school homework. I was lucky too, and my parents did not make me go to hagwon. However, there were kids in my classes who fell asleep, and their eyes were bloodshot. The SK school system is very sad.
I feel like the function of school should be to deliver the basics in a wide variety of skills, and to genuinely challenge students to get them to be intellectually curious, independent, worldly, and knowledgeable. It should not be overwhelming, depressing, panic-inducing, or super easy, barely an inconvenience. It's a tough balance, but I think in the US the culture has shift way too much towards removing any stress from school life.
Yeah US school system is a joke, you can do the bare minimum fail some classes do some homework after you failed the cvlass and you can move on like that until college, thats really derpessing
Those learning hours should be reserved for those who want and that are the smartest of the smartest.
No way in hell should anyone normal ever do those hours for learning. Not even work's this shit.
I don't need to know Ryan's life story, but I'm a little curious why he decided to teach ESL. Did he meet k8 before or after that?
i think its kinda the classic "well i got a bio degree idk what to do with my life, guess ill go to korea to each english then" for some new experiences. i believe he met k8 in canada because she moved and grew up there when she was young
Why are you shit talking America in the thumnail when it's the Canadian school system you're comparing the Korean system to in the actual rant?
They make kids suffer so much and at the end of the day Finland with its super chill education has the best students, lmao.
i have done 2 (two) hours of non-mandatory studying in my entire life and i got all A*s in the subject i wanted to do in uni (chemistry), this whole thing is so extremely foreign to me 😭
doesn't really matter how good you are at math if you never learnt to properly interact with another person growing up
According to a friend their grade school was completely un-air conditioned and didn’t even have cold water! They made up for it by chewing that blackblack menthol gum
I attended Canadian French school and it seems like kind of an in between of both. We started calculus ~5th to 6th grade and it was expected that each kid would have 30 more minutes of homework per year so in 6th grade ~3 hours of work every night. But when I moved on to the French highschool it was maybe an hour, way easier and much better teachers.
I did have a nemesis teacher in high school but it turns out it was my dads fault he dated her daughter and we had the same name
Who's fault is it that she has 30 essays to read? And why is she taking it out on the students after she wanted the essays to begin with?
All of those hours and still ranked lower than the US in testing and learning education is not about how hard it's supposed to be its supposed to be how well the kids can learn
And that’s even with all our inner city .5 gpa schools fucking up our metrics
I think the might care, suicide is a little too prevalent.
It's always extremes.... Where is the healthy middle ground....
Lol it's not 9 to 9. My school started at 8 am and ended at 10 pm
Teachers definitely do get petty vendettas sometimes. Prime example I once I had a teacher tell me they refuse to ever let me pass their class. They would refuse to help anytime I asked. I even copied my friends assignment and got a failing grade while they got 80%. If another student was helping me understand the material they would move me away from them. It goes on. His own kids got 100% in the class too btw. There are for sure teachers who pick on students.
Hmmm yes that’s some great work ethic and time spent working towards a career. Now tell me what’s their Total Fertility Rate?
To be fair, it's not just the poor mrs fucking robertson who has to work after school is over. Students have homework to do as well. God, just imagine leaving work and knowing that you still have to do work when you get home. Fuck that. Thank god school is over, I'm so much happier when my work life and my off time life are completely separate and exist in different dimensions. When my worktime is over I want to shift into a different state of being and pretend that shit doesn't exist. And I don't even hate my job. It's just, fuck it, I can't imagine mixing the two could be healthy for anyone.
Yep. They’re just doing a job. Same when you go to a restaurant and engage the host or server, or hire a contractor to do some work around the house. Respect their space and be polite. Beyond that, don’t fantasize. You’ll be strangers soon enough again.
In 6th form which is equivelant to college in the UK, we only learn calculus then but I think if we had the concepts and basic levels introduced at like gcse level, it would benefit the UK system. Unfortunately we all know what would be best but there is politics. I'd like to as there's logistics but there really isnt'.
You can learn a bit of differentiation at gcse in optional advanced courses although idk if most schools offer that. Also I think their college is what we call University and sixth form is closer to high school?
pig meat
Korean's education system is just completely ridiculous
Of course New Zealand teens would be the ones to know about the North African Campaign--it's the part of the war Oceania was involved in.
i had a teacher who had a vendetta against me because she thought having a husband with type 2 diabetes qualified her to make decisions on whether i should be allowed to go to the nurse's office with type 1 when i told her i needed to go. she got in trouble with the principal because i told my parents and from that point on she noticeably treated me differently.
no clue where this idea of HUSTLIN' comes from, the idea that every child should be forced into hours upon hours of work equals them becoming smarter is just verifiably false. The majority of hyper successful people (think bill gates etc.) come from Montessori schools which are literally opposite to this hustle mentality. IMO it's probably the quality of the challenge that really matters. Not the quantity of the information memorised. Think about it, if your education and skills can be replaced with the ctrl+c & ctrl+v combo, you really didn't learn anything. Ofc that's not the whole story, stuff like home life and economics play a big factor but I'd argue south east asian + east asian mentalities are really warped and kind of disturbing when it comes to education.
honestly as an American in retrospect i would have much preferred my life to be a nightmare from like 12-18 in terms of education and then have something to show for it at the end, instead of the reverse system where school is piss easy until like junior year of college and you feel like you dont really get much in return.
Not having calculus until 12th grade is insanity. We learned that shit around 6th and seventh grade and I live in Denmark. What the hell
U the insane one lmao
@@loganbivins2438 Bro what? First year of high school is standard for learning calculus where I'm from in EU. 6th year is a bit crazy because their not even 10 yet but you start to learn exponents then in preparation and even can start the best students on differentiation or chain rule.
in Ireland we do it on the equivalent of 11th grade lmao
@@acksawblack you do it if you actually want to. I moved to the U.S and in 10th grade, they enroll me in some algebra class i have studied before by default. So next year i just enrolled in AP cal, so you can skip that class and receive credit in college. So its all up to you actually.
As an American, the vast majority of people where I live never take a calculus class and leave school with a tentative grasp on basic algebra if they're lucky.
I still remember going to high school from 8 to 8 lol
NL has a significant lack of understanding of the impact these teachers have on the formative years of their students. To an adult it's just one year, to a child it's more than 10% of their life
All or nothing systems of learning. So binary, love free-range parenting
*Angry doots* 😠
I gotta be honest. American school isn't shit. The only hard thing about it is wanting to do the work
I blame it being too slow. Makes it a dredge for everyone
American schools are generally shit, American college and post-graduate education is the better than anywhere else in the world though so it balances it out
American school is shit in the sense that it's on average well below most any other comparable nation, and shit when you get into the nitty-gritty of different areas. The main problem is how funding is allocated for public schools, wherein local property taxes determines the school's quality. If you live in a rural area in the southeast, your education is going to be very different than if you live in the northwest urban cities. Consider how varied the educational outcomes can be, and remember that any kind of government class is more of a rarity. We're also moving in the opposite direction of fixing the problem. We continue to pay educators less and less, and we continue to work students harder, when the best educational outcomes come from Scandinavian countries where students have less class time and little to no homework.
@@cole7274it’s only shit because of our .5 average gpa inner city schools fuck up our averages. Scandinavian countries’ schools have better outcomes cause they don’t have to deal with our demographics
@@youtubehasbigcringe yes, terrible funding and a lack of resources given to inner city schools and communities will tend to do that.
it doesnt sound so bad when you count
breakfast
lunch
dinner
multiple breaks
sports
instruments
after that its mostly just normal school hours imo its similar to when i went to school for a bit
Wait till NL learns about Indian students lmao
Thats what is done also here in Greece. But the worst here is in highschool.
Then at least in uni we get to slack off (kinda, but not the medical and most STEM majors)
Bro what? Greek school is absolutely not difficult/over demanding. Only in high school do you really need tutors.
@Aureus Even in middle school, it kinda is, relative to other countries, if you wanna have a good grade. And in highschool you get fucked 24/7 (escpecially from the 2nd year onwards)
This is not a good thing, just a fact
It is almost impossible to generalize about american education because its actually 50 education systems but one of the defining features is cycles of poverty and abuse that would shock the rest of the developed world
What cycles of poverty and abuse exist in a fucking school?
@youtubehasbigcringe lol this is the opposite of the kid who thinks the teachers live at the school
They bring it from the rest of their lives, kids aren't known for having the best coping mechanisms so everything fucked up that happens to kids doesn't just go away. Schools in the US on the one hand can get sophisticated enough that other countries still try to emulate them. But on the other you still have kids going hungry or homeless and getting lead poisoning
@@alexanderjmihalich8525 usually the extreme negative outliers for schools can be attributed to certain demographics making up the entirety of the staff and student body
@@youtubehasbigcringe I'm not talking extreme negative outliers and I'm not sure what "demographics" you mean
@@alexanderjmihalich8525 lol sure bud
I hate this game, so I'm glad these clip channels exist so i can see the best bits without watching this boomer lose to kindergarteners for 3 hours.
uhh why are you here
@@20the20 Because I like NL? Did you only read "I hate this game," and then respond?
chad 13 year old telling the northernline that he alreadys the stuff
😮