Speaking of guinea pigs, my wife's family had 2 when she was a child and one grew a huge cancer tumor. The other one ate it off which ended up killing the one who ate it. Then the one that had cancer lived for 2 more years
I don't understand how that chatter watches NL. It's like being a regular at a brothel and having no interest in women. Maybe the alcohol or something is great but really? Is this really where you wanna hang out?
“We need to criminalize unauthorized use of the word yet” 2:23 It’s quips like this that elevate NLs content for me. It’s comedic, relatable, and a sassy comeback right off the dome. I’m only a bit into the vid, but his friend is right, he is doing a noble thing, setting the bar for witty banter.
@@raon123"literally just a guy who is also a funny guy" are actually pretty common out there in the real world, it only feels rare because very few twitch streamers are funny and you spend your whole day watching them
I was "Kids shouldn't be in pubs anyway" pilled but then I remembered i spent like the first 5 years of my life in a sports bar eating pizza and playing arcade games
Normalize. Children. Being. In. Public. spaces. It's public. Fuck off thinking you can cater your experience to not be inconvenienced EVER by the EXISTENCE of small humans who's only disadvantage is their parents fucked more recently than yours. Note: not actually annoyed with you, lol. The sentiment from the child free section of the Internet is so annoying though and I'm on tilt.
"Pub" isn't a colloquialism in most of America. A sports bar very well can be his pub experience as a child. Mine was Score's Sports Bar and the Red Lion. Red Lion was actually a proper pub. Large building with sectional areas for those with different interests@@Ovenman940
2:08 I know exactly what he’s getting at when he says “I wish I had an hour to play balatro” but it is extremely funny that he chose that as the example of a thing he doesn’t have time to do
The “child-free debate club” could be applied to quite a few groups, actually. I work in environmental lobbying and there is a big overlap between hardcore environmentalism and anti-natalism, and I feel that many of our conversations turn into circular debates where we talk about a problem, then give a solution that we all know is incredibly unlikely or unpopular, and then all say “So True!” To eachother. I consider it a coping mechanism; it’s hard to come up with solutions that work and are popular, so we talk about crazy shit and pretend we are enlightened for thinking it. I’m certain other groups go through the same problems.
I think you're onto something. I've witnessed this happening in both the religious isolationist right and the socialist left. Talk about a problem, ask what to do about it, defiantly toss out a solution that would guarantee every normal person writes you off. "So true, so true. It's hard being part of the few who Get It."
@@ActionScripterbut if you don't let them know it's a socialist idea, they fucking love it. This has actually been proven recently with polls. They suggest an idea that is undeniably from socialist thought, and everyone is for it. But the second you say it's socialist or communist people shit themselves. It's a little something Called 100 years of American propaganda
@@Toastybees even if I agree with you, It is just an answer to the question of "Is it moral to have a child ?". No one is saying that this moral position itself will solve anything.
Not really, considering the permanent effects alcohol can take on a developing brain. There is wisdom in trying to isolate minors from alcohol. It can be argued that by keeping them outside of pubs and bars, we're restricting them to public environments where alcohol is not apart of the social fabric and therefore they won't have the same desire drink in order to meet the social standard. Then again, you can just as easily argue that prohibition only drives demand, and that by labelling it as exclusive for an in-group (adults), minors are more likely to pursue alcohol even further.
Pre baby he watched most big movies and TV shows when they aired, but he said he just doesn't have the time any more. I think he said this around the release of blade runner 2049
I'm sure I've missed stuff in the intervening years, but I feel like those first few seasons of GoT is the last time we had something actually stay in the conversation over an extended period. As a TV show, I mean. Like what he's talking about with the 90s sitcoms.
As impatient as it makes me feel, I love weekly releases cause I get to see people all over social media talking about the latest episode and getting excited about the next. Doesn't happen at all with full releases
"Reddit is larping" so, half of Twitter is larping, and the other half is people saying "I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE ACTUALLY THINK THIS" it's why any time someone says there's drama and the first example is from Twitter i tune out
the algorithm is specifically designed to show you the things it knows will push your buttons, in order to generate clicks for ad revenue. apply this en masse and a lot of the confrontational nature of the entire internet right now instantly makes so much more sense.
I've never found babies cute, but I also never developed a whole ass complex about it. Just keep that shit to yourself and be slightly annoyed about it on your own time, like a regular human being lol
Former Liquor Control Board of Ontario employee, teens are allowed inside the LCBO with their parents. They're allowed to push the cart, carry a basket, and unload the basket/cart at the point of sale and help package it up. However, As soon as they point out alcohol their parents buy or touch the product, then they get ID'd by law that we are legally bound (by oath of office and allegiance to the King, mind you) to do. Ho leeeeeee do the parents have no chill about it, way worse than the kids.
Bruh, of course the parents would have no chill about it, that’s the most insane way to do it. Just saying “no teens” at the door would be less infuriating than going “no sale, your 17 year old son got that bottle off the shelf for you.”
@@ricflairsayswoo5894my brother got me banned from the liquor store down the road because of these stupid ass laws 😂😭 legit just because he came in with me and pointed at a bottle of vodka with no actual interest in it was just asking a question…
It's illegal for Systembolaget(Sweden) to sell to people that are under 20, visibly intoxicated or that you suspect will supply alcohol to minors. Having that exact rule about touching the product sounds really odd though, are you sure that's not just an "in practise rule"?
@@NotASummoner Yes, the guy who worked for the company, underwent training, did annual re-ups on our training, saw a colleague got suspended after a report from a secret shopper, and heard the messages on the PA every 15 minutes a shift for 7 years specifically saying it's a rule is sure that it's not an "in practice rule."
@@RushandSNLfan That's just weird then, I guess it weeds out the completely wack adults but I feel like they'd be weeded out anyways if it wasn't an ironclad no touching rule. Maybe it's just so that the employee can say it's completely out of their hands as it has nothing to do with their own judgement? I'm just trying to figure out what possible reason they'd make it the rule.
fun fact, plato's allegory of the cave is actually how our brains work the part of your brain that makes up your conscious mind has no access to any of your sensory information. your senses get fed into a part of your brain that is (outside of really hard drug trips) completely separated from your mind, and it generates a simulation of what it thinks the world is like using a combination of past experiences, expectations and biases. and then that simulated external world, your consciousness fakes looking into with senses that it doesn't actually have, that are so far removed from what your actual sensory organs feed you that the raw input of your senses would be useless to you for example; if you hold out your pinky as far as you can from yourself, your actual eyes can only see color in an area smaller than your nail. and yet you see color everywhere all at once; because your fake simulated eyes that your mind is using to peer at the fake simulated world that it looks at doesn't work the same way as your real eyes. if the wall around your computer screen changed color every time you look at your screen and then change back when you look away you'd never notice because your real eyes don't see color outside of what they're focusing on and your mind is just guessing what color the wall is based on what color it was the last time you got good info on it the take-away being that you probably should take your own experiences with the grain of salt you'd put into anybody's experiences who you happen to know is constantly hallucinating, because that's what you are; hallucinating, constantly. if you thought that the light was green when you last looked at it, maybe give it another glance before you go. same goes for, like, giving other people the benefit of the doubt when they say they told you something, or not putting too much stock into unexplained noises or sensations
I'm 28 and as soon as he read the "it's hard to be any age" comment I thought "honestly it's not that hard being 28" and actually laughed out loud when he said the exact same thing a second later. Good to know this is as good as it gets.
27 here and never been better. Life has been ridiculously difficult for me at many points in my life, but being an adult with a stable job im pretty good at and comfortable with, no school, home and family (no kids) life has never been easier
I think NL has a really potent point on no longer getting to be apart of that culture as a show releases. Like you're not gonna get the same community with the binge model, there just isn't excitement outside of what happens next season where you get to binge it again. I may also be salty because if it wasn't released for binging, I wouldn't have been spoiled things towards the end of the fallout show.
My mom loves a book series called Silo so when the TV show came out, and she liked it, she loved it, and even better they paced out the episodes so every week my mom would tell me all about it and go online to talk about it. It really builds way more hype and buzz, and let's people do the fun parts of speculation and discussion, and give more time and focus per episode.
From Ireland, I was in the pub when young, mainly for my parents to watch hurling, rugby or soccer while having a pint, however I am aware we have a different culture around drinking establishments. I also remember there being a curfew for kids, like past 9 u couldn’t have kids at the pub my family went to for matches. Nothing better than a cidona and a pack of bacon fries watching a match tho.
the caveman at the end did not realize the other tribe members he thought present were merely shadows cast on the wall and that he was grunting directly at only one caveman
Hey librarian, maybe you already have it in the archives but a compilation of NL going off about people unwilling to answer hypotheticals would go crazy for me personally. Keep up the good work
I've had two guinea pigs that died in pretty normal circumstances, the first died overnight and the second died from old age, it was pretty sad I held him when he was slowly passing away
My guinea pig died out of nowhere when I was in 5th grade and I was deviated. He had some crystals in his ween and we took him to the emergency vet and they called the next day to say he was over the yellow brick wall or whatever
My cousins had three hamsters, all three got lost in their vents and only one ever came out. I can only imagine what they had to do to survive in there…
Love seeing a tweet and reading the discourse. Then hopping over to TH-cam and the first thumbnail I see is an NL video with the same tweet in the thumbnail.
Remember the first time I went to the bar, my friends told me not to curse because there were kids nearby. I was so confused. Guess thats last born problems
I do t know about the Reddit but any actual academic debate on antinatalism is inherently rhetorical and and acknowledged by the authors as inherently unfulfillable. Like I don’t think I’ve read a single piece of writing on it that wasn’t just a work of philosophical extrapolation that the authors acknowledges will never be a reality, like most of the arguements derive from extrapolating on the concept of human suffering to the extreme. The crux being is human suffering in itself valuable, I.e is it better to live and suffer than to never live but never suffer. I don’t think any academics really view it as a real life issue, or even anything to do with children at all. Natalism just referring to the act of birth, the subreddit just sounds like people that hate children not actually anything to do with the philosophy of suffering.
in colloqiual terms anti-natalism almost always refers to people who just hate kids and not any philosophical meaning. the term "anti-natal" is kinda implying the hatred of birth and therefore children, so honestly its just a bad descriptive name lmao
@@JD-wu5pf I mean, that's been the root of almost every argument I've had with anti natalists, predicated entirely on "I'm miserable and see no value in life and want total life extinction as a result" There's a massive difference between someone who doesn't want a child for personal reasons, and someone who believes in total extinction of sapience in the universe.
Reminds me of the finale of a little book called Fabian - The story of a Moralist where the book literally ends because he tried to save a drowning child, couldn't swim, and just drowned himself
Bro librarian belss u for pulling up the twitter reciepts to prove his points, makes it so much easier to follow for someone whos out of touch like myself lol
I think the your pet vs someones kid question is actually kind of interesting because while a human life should mean more than a pets, the sense of responsibility that would drive someone to save their pet over a strangers child makes some sense
I work in manufacturing, and things have been crazy ever since covid. The company is desperate to hire people so we end up with a bunch of lunatics. I still have a couple coworkers that I like, but most of them I try to stay far away from.
Other people don't want to hear someone else's children screaming all the time near them. Hell, I bet parents that happen to have a free evening don't want to be near other people's screaming children. As long as there are some places that allow children and others that don't, I think all is fine.
Idk. I understand completely that some ppl might not want to be around kids or babies but I also feel like that annoyance is pretty mild in comparison to being someone with a child/children who just can’t go places unless they specifically find and schedule for them to be looked after someone else. I’m worried about a culture that can becomes increasingly hostile/less accommodating to parents.
@@ataraxia7439 It's not just the society's fault though it's beginning to be hostile, but also the parent's. Parents nowadays bet on the privilege that they have kids and will be allowed everything, but fail to uphold their side of the deal and be responsible for their children. When I was a kid, I had to shut up and behave in silent places like restaurants, doctor's office, etc.. And failure to do so was met with corrections. I learned I am supposed to NOT annoy my surroundings and control myself. From parents around me nowadays I see just endless entitlement to be accommodated, while the kids often do whatever they want, being loud, destroying property etc. and they get no reprimand. They learn there are no consequences for their actions. Sorry, but I want to keep such maladjusted families as far away from me as possible.
@@nnm711 I think maybe there's a halfway point people can reach. Obviously, people should try to get their kids to behave and be considerate of others as much as they reasonably can but also it's just kind of a reality that some kids and babies are going to sometimes not be silent or invisible and it should be okay fo r them to be like that sometimes in public spaces.
@@ataraxia7439 If you can't get a babysitter, don't go out or choose a place that is child friendly. When I go out for drinks I don't want to have some random kid screaming nearby. You can buy some alcohol at the store and drink at home until you get a babysitter. A pub is a publicly accessible private space. Kids can go be kids at the park, the pub is not a park nor a place where kids should be present.
@@nnm711 Lmao, adults can't handle themselves in publics. Watching loud videos in pbjlic, blasting music at 3am, fighting, pissed drunk botjering people, being sex pests. But u mfers are going after some of the only people, kids to have a valid excuse
Hey NL, I've been through the (what age do they do something weird in the LCBO) They just don't allow the under age person to touch the booze, or even put it on the checkout counter even if just trying to help your parent.
3:35 I definitely agree with this sentiment, I mean yeah it save up my money for monthly subscriptions, but I don't like that they drowning you in one go, it's like rotting your brain with too much content.
*Niche Internet Microcelebrity I've never heard of talks about the public discourse of being child free* Four minutes in: Yeah, so about the Fallout TV show...
My gerbils died when I was little and we held a burial and funeral in the back garden, buried together in a small cardboard box. By the end we were all laughing.
I need me some more pet-free restauarants. Seen way too many "fur parents" (owners) with their lil rats on their lap at the nice dinner places over the last couple years. It's kinda gross
@@saintsalieri Idk, I don't feel very comfortable around dogs. I don't wanna be licked or have to think about whether I should be guarded in any way. Some of them are very cute but I just don't want to deal with what they bring to an interaction.
@@NotASummoner Yes, that makes you the weirdo. Dogs are such a part of human sociality that it's impossible to imagine us without them, really. They are a permanent and ubiquitous feature of our lives and that is not going to change so you should work on yourself instead of trying to force your anxieties upon others.
“Would you rather watch a shitty movie from 1978?” What kind of gotcha is that, chatter? Lol. “Would you rather watch a 90-minute movie that’s sort of bad or half a dozen 40-minute episodes you’re completely indifferent to?”
Are canadian bars not child free by default? I remember when my mom used to work as a musician at a bar when I was like 12 and had the police called on her just because I walked through the front into the back room.
Pubs arent bars, pubs are like restaurant but with a bigger drink menu and (frequently) a limited food menu. Bars only sell drinks and maybe some snacks.
The antinatalism discourse is so crazy when you actually look at birthrates... Nearly every Western country (and increasingly Asian countries as well) has negative birthrates and the difference is propped up by immigration. But what happens when the countries those people are emigrating from, modernize more and begin to have negative birthrates as well? The global fertility rate has been trending down since 1965 and is expected to drop below replacement levels in the next 10 years or so. The declining world population is going to become a huge issue overnight, and all these Redditor opinions about not having children will seem very insignificant compared to the global labor shortage, where countries are fighting over dwindling human capital.
For sure birth rates are an economic problem for countries that need to grow indefinitely. This isn’t because millions of people are suddenly like “I hate kids” it’s just less and less economically feasible to have kids. Focusing on antinatalism when looking at birth rates is ignoring the real problem of economic pressures not really giving people the option to have kids anymore
@@landonscott7943 The economy is a smaller part of the problem. People have had much higher birthrates in much worse economies for millennia. Even during the great Soviet famines where millions starved and money was worthless, they still had much higher birthrates than modern America. It's cultural, a disdain for children and pessimism about life generally, and the proliferation of birth control especially since the 60s (when the fertility rate started dropping). It's not just "a problem for countries that need to grow indefinitely," it's a problem for the entire world having enough people to create food and transport it; increasingly harsh penalties for anyone wishing to leave their country ("you're too valuable to leave"); and over centuries, human extinction (since apparently nothing has been able to reverse the declining fertility rate for 60 years, what will be the solution?).
then I imagine we start downscaling rather than this infinite-line-goes-up thing we have going on currently. We start only producing as much as we need. Man, wouldn't that be something
@@MetroAndroid I feel like I'm gonna be "that guy" but I genuinely don't think this is a problem to anyone but capitalists (as in, the capitalist class). A society which produces exactly what it needs to sustain itself with a slight surplus for trade and as a safety net is the ideal society, not the ever growing, infinite-growth-in-a-finite-universe mentality of capitalism. If you start viewing people as people and not "human capital" that exists only to further increase a meaningless number then the wellbeing of those people becomes a far clearer goal. That is achievable with our current level of technology and manpower, even without any AI. By the time this is a realistic problem globally we'll likely already have general AI that can work a significant % of the jobs discounting the need for manpower in the first place. Under capitalism, that's a dystopian reality with a 40% unemployment rate, under any reasonable system, it's a utopia. Not to completely discredit your point, the birth rate IS decreasing instead of stabilizing, and while I do think that the economic aspect is a far bigger slice of the cake than you think, there are some cultural factors such as birth control, women entering the workplace/getting an education, dating apps/dating culture but I really doubt that birth control and feminism are the main factors for what we're seeing today. In a society where having children didn't significantly impact your wealth and therefore your wellbeing, in a society where those children are guaranteed to be taken care of and get a decent quality of life, people would be having far more children than they are today in the west. I do think there is a very real issue with modern dating culture for a variety of reasons, but I frankly don't really have any solutions for that, especially when it's just a fraction of the greater problem which is how tech companies are trying to squeeze every last drop of time and attention out of us at the cost of our mental and physical health, our socialization and our ability to function "normally". I sound like a boomer but I think the main cultural problems stem from social media companies killing our society to try to make a profit.
There's 3 pubs within a 12 min walking distance of me in my small town and I've been to some cities where there's 3 on the same street. I don't see how anyone in their right mind could possibly care that one is childfree
If you leave your baby outside the building they should take your baby and the weed. Baby inside the dispensary is totally fine. Catch my ass walking into auto zone with a 5 year old and someone starts yelling Sir, SIR. You can't bring them into the car part store, they can't drive
I can see why nothernlion think that regarding r/antinatalism but I disagree. The thing is antinatalism doesn't have a single core argument and nor there is a single core argument against it. Every antinatalist has a different take. That's why the wiki is written in multiple different perspective. This might be why you would antintalist if you are conservative, christian, buddhist, left wing etc etc.
Do American supermarkets not sell liquor, or do Americans just not take their kids to the supermarket either, just in case they see some booze on the shelf?
the solution is having enough patience for the world around you. you people are getting upset at people because you overexpose yourself to people and dont spend enough time not dealing with nonsense.
Babies be like "I have a mouth and I will scream"
Amirite parents? +2 to the left.
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it's uuuuhhh to the right actually
Reddit users when a child exists in a public location: “Hate. Let me tell you much I have come to hate you since I began to live.”
Omg it does 😂
I thought this was about amazing digital circus
You give the water drowning the hamster to the fish, easy as
I think I’m dyslexic
King Solomon solution. They each have what the other one lacks.
Double it and give it to the next guy.
Your hamster your rules.
@@saintsalieri NO RULES, JUST RIGHT
Speaking of guinea pigs, my wife's family had 2 when she was a child and one grew a huge cancer tumor. The other one ate it off which ended up killing the one who ate it. Then the one that had cancer lived for 2 more years
this is actually the craziest hapster story I've seen, and I've seen a lot
Hero
Dude was the tank
oh boy if this isn't one of the worst things I've ever read
Would you eat the tumor off your hamster or off a stranger's child?
Tomo, my sweet prince, I’d burn the world down to warm your paw- oh hi Ryuka
He knows what he did
“It’s like not that hard to be 28” 10:34
why’d he say fuck me for?
Haha I'm 26, I was wondering if NL thinks I've got it easier or harder than you
He had to give 22 year olds a break, Lmao.
@@jammywalter071326 year olds dodging the stray. Feels damn good
_dusts off shirt_ My time to shine.
The hard part is getting there
"These hypotheticals never happen though" the mythical type AA chatter appears
I don't understand how that chatter watches NL. It's like being a regular at a brothel and having no interest in women. Maybe the alcohol or something is great but really? Is this really where you wanna hang out?
LMAO
"Why are we talking about what to do in a fire, there is no fire right now" was a great retort haha
Nothing ever happens
Type AA chatter who can only interpret things strictly literally: "He's not dipping a pepper into Mama Liz's Chili Oil, why is he saying this"
“We need to criminalize unauthorized use of the word yet” 2:23
It’s quips like this that elevate NLs content for me.
It’s comedic, relatable, and a sassy comeback right off the dome.
I’m only a bit into the vid, but his friend is right, he is doing a noble thing, setting the bar for witty banter.
"Literally just a guy" what a fucking liar, he's definitely a funny guy.
@@raon123 It does fit his vibe tho, for me who just started watching him recently he strikes me as a very reasonable, smart, ordinary person.
his dome is quite smooth after all so the comebacks are witty as well
@@raon123"literally just a guy who is also a funny guy" are actually pretty common out there in the real world, it only feels rare because very few twitch streamers are funny and you spend your whole day watching them
I was "Kids shouldn't be in pubs anyway" pilled but then I remembered i spent like the first 5 years of my life in a sports bar eating pizza and playing arcade games
Normalize. Children. Being. In. Public. spaces.
It's public. Fuck off thinking you can cater your experience to not be inconvenienced EVER by the EXISTENCE of small humans who's only disadvantage is their parents fucked more recently than yours.
Note: not actually annoyed with you, lol. The sentiment from the child free section of the Internet is so annoying though and I'm on tilt.
Anya Jaylor Joy!!
You can't properly engage in this debate if you think a sports bar is a pub. Pubs are regularly full of children.
"Pub" isn't a colloquialism in most of America. A sports bar very well can be his pub experience as a child. Mine was Score's Sports Bar and the Red Lion. Red Lion was actually a proper pub. Large building with sectional areas for those with different interests@@Ovenman940
fr. pub used to mean "Public House"
Straight son or flush daughter is funny af
"I hope both of my kids flush, the son and the daughter... AND the holy ghost" was a great follow-up
2:08 I know exactly what he’s getting at when he says “I wish I had an hour to play balatro” but it is extremely funny that he chose that as the example of a thing he doesn’t have time to do
4:08 my cousins tell me they go to school and talk about the new MrBeast video when it drops so I have hope the echo effect lives on
Quoting memes at each other for the first time, and the recognition that we've all seen it: the smiles after that are to be treasured forever.
I remember talking about Stickman vs Animation with my friends in middle school. Fun times.
The “child-free debate club” could be applied to quite a few groups, actually. I work in environmental lobbying and there is a big overlap between hardcore environmentalism and anti-natalism, and I feel that many of our conversations turn into circular debates where we talk about a problem, then give a solution that we all know is incredibly unlikely or unpopular, and then all say “So True!” To eachother.
I consider it a coping mechanism; it’s hard to come up with solutions that work and are popular, so we talk about crazy shit and pretend we are enlightened for thinking it. I’m certain other groups go through the same problems.
I think you're onto something. I've witnessed this happening in both the religious isolationist right and the socialist left. Talk about a problem, ask what to do about it, defiantly toss out a solution that would guarantee every normal person writes you off. "So true, so true. It's hard being part of the few who Get It."
@@ActionScripterbut if you don't let them know it's a socialist idea, they fucking love it. This has actually been proven recently with polls. They suggest an idea that is undeniably from socialist thought, and everyone is for it. But the second you say it's socialist or communist people shit themselves. It's a little something Called 100 years of American propaganda
Anti-natalism isn't a solution though. It is just a moral position.
@@testacalsAny moral position is set forth as a solution to a moral question or idea.
@@Toastybees even if I agree with you, It is just an answer to the question of "Is it moral to have a child ?". No one is saying that this moral position itself will solve anything.
The drowning children of this city look up and shout 'SAVE US'
I'll look down and whisper 'But he's my little boy'
The idea that kids need to be sheltered from alcohol is so bizarre. Kids already know all about vomiting and falling over.
Not really, considering the permanent effects alcohol can take on a developing brain. There is wisdom in trying to isolate minors from alcohol.
It can be argued that by keeping them outside of pubs and bars, we're restricting them to public environments where alcohol is not apart of the social fabric and therefore they won't have the same desire drink in order to meet the social standard.
Then again, you can just as easily argue that prohibition only drives demand, and that by labelling it as exclusive for an in-group (adults), minors are more likely to pursue alcohol even further.
“We used to all watch the same show and talk about it in the office the next day” - NL who only watches a movie/show every decade
Plus he hasn't worked in an office for over 10 years.
Yet he knows every actor/actress that was in every show or movie in the last 20 years as well as in what month each was in theaters
@@coledelong427He's saying it's ridiculous for him to be saying that since he seen every show. It's like saying "gay Mormons be like"
Pre baby he watched most big movies and TV shows when they aired, but he said he just doesn't have the time any more. I think he said this around the release of blade runner 2049
@@greenoftreeblackofblue6625 bisexual mormons*
I'm sure I've missed stuff in the intervening years, but I feel like those first few seasons of GoT is the last time we had something actually stay in the conversation over an extended period. As a TV show, I mean. Like what he's talking about with the 90s sitcoms.
What about the mandalorian?
@HiIh76 havent seen anyone talk about the madalorian irl. Its popular, but its nowhere near what GOT was
the weekly eps do help draw out the narrative beats into more digestible arcs, and you have time to fully reckon with the subtler aspects of the story
As impatient as it makes me feel, I love weekly releases cause I get to see people all over social media talking about the latest episode and getting excited about the next. Doesn't happen at all with full releases
"Reddit is larping" so, half of Twitter is larping, and the other half is people saying "I CAN'T BELIEVE PEOPLE ACTUALLY THINK THIS" it's why any time someone says there's drama and the first example is from Twitter i tune out
"Reddit" is such a funny cope from Twitter-addicted weirds in too deep to admit their website is fully of shitty weridoes too
Basically all of social media is making up a dude in your head and then being mad at them
It's the same 5000 people jerking each other off about how unbelievable one side or the other is being. They're all useless insufferable losers
Social media as a whole is LARPing and Ragebait.
the algorithm is specifically designed to show you the things it knows will push your buttons, in order to generate clicks for ad revenue. apply this en masse and a lot of the confrontational nature of the entire internet right now instantly makes so much more sense.
How is Enelle so insightful and yet can GayPorn Rap like Eminem (when he was good)
gay sex ❤
Everybody on the antinatalist subreddit wants to be Schopenhauer so bad
the librarian, more like crybrarian 😢
crybabyian
@@xanderkhan73 crybabyryan
I've never found babies cute, but I also never developed a whole ass complex about it. Just keep that shit to yourself and be slightly annoyed about it on your own time, like a regular human being lol
4:22 the chatters "here we go" when he starts talking about everybody loves raymond sent me
It’s not your fault
What isnt my fault
It's not your fault
I had a guinea pig as a kid, and when it died, I was legit devastated, and never had a pet since. I guess I get too attached to the little fellas
You're probably just more compassionate than average. That's not a bad thing at all.
Former Liquor Control Board of Ontario employee, teens are allowed inside the LCBO with their parents. They're allowed to push the cart, carry a basket, and unload the basket/cart at the point of sale and help package it up.
However, As soon as they point out alcohol their parents buy or touch the product, then they get ID'd by law that we are legally bound (by oath of office and allegiance to the King, mind you) to do.
Ho leeeeeee do the parents have no chill about it, way worse than the kids.
Bruh, of course the parents would have no chill about it, that’s the most insane way to do it.
Just saying “no teens” at the door would be less infuriating than going “no sale, your 17 year old son got that bottle off the shelf for you.”
@@ricflairsayswoo5894my brother got me banned from the liquor store down the road because of these stupid ass laws 😂😭 legit just because he came in with me and pointed at a bottle of vodka with no actual interest in it was just asking a question…
It's illegal for Systembolaget(Sweden) to sell to people that are under 20, visibly intoxicated or that you suspect will supply alcohol to minors. Having that exact rule about touching the product sounds really odd though, are you sure that's not just an "in practise rule"?
@@NotASummoner Yes, the guy who worked for the company, underwent training, did annual re-ups on our training, saw a colleague got suspended after a report from a secret shopper, and heard the messages on the PA every 15 minutes a shift for 7 years specifically saying it's a rule is sure that it's not an "in practice rule."
@@RushandSNLfan That's just weird then, I guess it weeds out the completely wack adults but I feel like they'd be weeded out anyways if it wasn't an ironclad no touching rule. Maybe it's just so that the employee can say it's completely out of their hands as it has nothing to do with their own judgement? I'm just trying to figure out what possible reason they'd make it the rule.
I feel like I would save most other kids over my dog, but some just have bad vibes.
Maybe the kids recieving a karmic willy wonka esq punishment and my dog just followed its nose into the chocolate river
@@petormaculan5424 +2 but if a dog fell into a chocolate river it'd detonate like a landmine.
Why have a dog when it doesn't mean anything to you...?
Omfg him talking about the Guinea pigs has me crying because it's so true lmfao
The anecdotes in chat are proving the point so hard
fun fact, plato's allegory of the cave is actually how our brains work
the part of your brain that makes up your conscious mind has no access to any of your sensory information. your senses get fed into a part of your brain that is (outside of really hard drug trips) completely separated from your mind, and it generates a simulation of what it thinks the world is like using a combination of past experiences, expectations and biases. and then that simulated external world, your consciousness fakes looking into with senses that it doesn't actually have, that are so far removed from what your actual sensory organs feed you that the raw input of your senses would be useless to you
for example; if you hold out your pinky as far as you can from yourself, your actual eyes can only see color in an area smaller than your nail. and yet you see color everywhere all at once; because your fake simulated eyes that your mind is using to peer at the fake simulated world that it looks at doesn't work the same way as your real eyes. if the wall around your computer screen changed color every time you look at your screen and then change back when you look away you'd never notice because your real eyes don't see color outside of what they're focusing on and your mind is just guessing what color the wall is based on what color it was the last time you got good info on it
the take-away being that you probably should take your own experiences with the grain of salt you'd put into anybody's experiences who you happen to know is constantly hallucinating, because that's what you are; hallucinating, constantly. if you thought that the light was green when you last looked at it, maybe give it another glance before you go. same goes for, like, giving other people the benefit of the doubt when they say they told you something, or not putting too much stock into unexplained noises or sensations
I've never been psychologically ruined by a yt comment before
@@heinzmonster dude has no chill. None whatsoever
I'm 28 and as soon as he read the "it's hard to be any age" comment I thought "honestly it's not that hard being 28" and actually laughed out loud when he said the exact same thing a second later. Good to know this is as good as it gets.
27 here and never been better. Life has been ridiculously difficult for me at many points in my life, but being an adult with a stable job im pretty good at and comfortable with, no school, home and family (no kids) life has never been easier
I think NL has a really potent point on no longer getting to be apart of that culture as a show releases. Like you're not gonna get the same community with the binge model, there just isn't excitement outside of what happens next season where you get to binge it again. I may also be salty because if it wasn't released for binging, I wouldn't have been spoiled things towards the end of the fallout show.
My mom loves a book series called Silo so when the TV show came out, and she liked it, she loved it, and even better they paced out the episodes so every week my mom would tell me all about it and go online to talk about it.
It really builds way more hype and buzz, and let's people do the fun parts of speculation and discussion, and give more time and focus per episode.
From Ireland, I was in the pub when young, mainly for my parents to watch hurling, rugby or soccer while having a pint, however I am aware we have a different culture around drinking establishments. I also remember there being a curfew for kids, like past 9 u couldn’t have kids at the pub my family went to for matches. Nothing better than a cidona and a pack of bacon fries watching a match tho.
the caveman at the end did not realize the other tribe members he thought present were merely shadows cast on the wall and that he was grunting directly at only one caveman
Hey librarian, maybe you already have it in the archives but a compilation of NL going off about people unwilling to answer hypotheticals would go crazy for me personally. Keep up the good work
Mainly because hypotheticals never actually give you the answer you ask it for
I asked a guy to not bring his daughter into the vape shop I worked at, and he freaked out at me
Every vape shop I've ever seen looks like they've got a fog machine running in there 24/7, so I'm with you on that one, brother.
I've had two guinea pigs that died in pretty normal circumstances, the first died overnight and the second died from old age, it was pretty sad I held him when he was slowly passing away
My guinea pig died out of nowhere when I was in 5th grade and I was deviated. He had some crystals in his ween and we took him to the emergency vet and they called the next day to say he was over the yellow brick wall or whatever
He mentioned r/antinatalist but, given the theme of the rant, he has to talk about r/dogfree now
My cousins had three hamsters, all three got lost in their vents and only one ever came out. I can only imagine what they had to do to survive in there…
Love seeing a tweet and reading the discourse. Then hopping over to TH-cam and the first thumbnail I see is an NL video with the same tweet in the thumbnail.
took my toddler to the dispensary the employees hotboxed his Damn stroller....... baby was chill asf Though
the tweet that i saw quoting the og was someone saying "why are we banning mothers aka WOMEN from facilities now??" 💀
17:33 This is why he's the GOAT
Remember the first time I went to the bar, my friends told me not to curse because there were kids nearby. I was so confused. Guess thats last born problems
I do t know about the Reddit but any actual academic debate on antinatalism is inherently rhetorical and and acknowledged by the authors as inherently unfulfillable. Like I don’t think I’ve read a single piece of writing on it that wasn’t just a work of philosophical extrapolation that the authors acknowledges will never be a reality, like most of the arguements derive from extrapolating on the concept of human suffering to the extreme. The crux being is human suffering in itself valuable, I.e is it better to live and suffer than to never live but never suffer.
I don’t think any academics really view it as a real life issue, or even anything to do with children at all. Natalism just referring to the act of birth, the subreddit just sounds like people that hate children not actually anything to do with the philosophy of suffering.
in colloqiual terms anti-natalism almost always refers to people who just hate kids and not any philosophical meaning. the term "anti-natal" is kinda implying the hatred of birth and therefore children, so honestly its just a bad descriptive name lmao
It's all probably incels coping that they can't get kids
I don't know I just don't want kids cuz then I wouldn't be able to snort coke all the time.
It's often massive projection
"I hate my own life and don't want others to have a chance for good"
@@JD-wu5pf I mean, that's been the root of almost every argument I've had with anti natalists, predicated entirely on "I'm miserable and see no value in life and want total life extinction as a result"
There's a massive difference between someone who doesn't want a child for personal reasons, and someone who believes in total extinction of sapience in the universe.
0:19 northernlion shoots smack? 🤨
My guinea pig was eaten in front of me by the neighbor's dog
Luna is genuinely so self aware holy fuck. I wish my kid was at that point where he KNEW he was being a pain in the ass lol
Reminds me of the finale of a little book called Fabian - The story of a Moralist
where the book literally ends because he tried to save a drowning child, couldn't swim, and just drowned himself
Twitter recently forced their domain to show up as x and it caused my script blocker to reject it, happiest I've ever been.
The story that starts this video is both heartwarming and a little bit painful, I wouldn’t know whether to clarify it or not.
If anyone cares, the Fallout show is very good. Even if I'd never heard of or played Fallout I still would have enjoyed it a great deal.
I'm not surprised. Who has the time to watch all this shit?? Even when I was in my twenties I didn't give a fuck
@@B2Roland Ok.
I simply don’t believe you. People also said that “everything everywhere all at once” was very good and that’s the worst movie ever made.
@@phylocybe_ Ok.
man people really on your ass for saying you liked something
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"I hope both of my kids flush... The son and the daughter... and the Holy Ghost!" Amen, brother. Amen.
A lady wanted to card me once when I was like 17 and my dad was buying beer with me present. My old mad was pretty pissed that she even asked.
You're not wrong. Streaming has killed the cliffhanger. I miss well done trailers too. Fallout was definitely a cut above though
i never truly understood the allegory of the cave until nl explained it in 1 sentence while yapping about the antinatalism subreddit, crazy
That first story was so fucking funny omg
Holy fuck the Guinea pig bit had me fucking dying, gasping for breath
I think you're right on track for today's expectations
My fucking god, it's the people.
Bro librarian belss u for pulling up the twitter reciepts to prove his points, makes it so much easier to follow for someone whos out of touch like myself lol
I think the your pet vs someones kid question is actually kind of interesting because while a human life should mean more than a pets, the sense of responsibility that would drive someone to save their pet over a strangers child makes some sense
I work in manufacturing, and things have been crazy ever since covid. The company is desperate to hire people so we end up with a bunch of lunatics. I still have a couple coworkers that I like, but most of them I try to stay far away from.
I don't go to church anymore Librarian videos of NL being completely normal are my sermons
'The son and the daughter... And the holy ghost'
The architect and the builder
@@Oshawotter48 They arrive calmly from their escalator with a sense of purpose
as a child of alcoholics I'm grateful my parents didn't take me out to a pub lol. It's embarrassing enough seeing them drunk at home
Other people don't want to hear someone else's children screaming all the time near them. Hell, I bet parents that happen to have a free evening don't want to be near other people's screaming children. As long as there are some places that allow children and others that don't, I think all is fine.
Idk. I understand completely that some ppl might not want to be around kids or babies but I also feel like that annoyance is pretty mild in comparison to being someone with a child/children who just can’t go places unless they specifically find and schedule for them to be looked after someone else. I’m worried about a culture that can becomes increasingly hostile/less accommodating to parents.
@@ataraxia7439 It's not just the society's fault though it's beginning to be hostile, but also the parent's. Parents nowadays bet on the privilege that they have kids and will be allowed everything, but fail to uphold their side of the deal and be responsible for their children.
When I was a kid, I had to shut up and behave in silent places like restaurants, doctor's office, etc.. And failure to do so was met with corrections. I learned I am supposed to NOT annoy my surroundings and control myself.
From parents around me nowadays I see just endless entitlement to be accommodated, while the kids often do whatever they want, being loud, destroying property etc. and they get no reprimand. They learn there are no consequences for their actions. Sorry, but I want to keep such maladjusted families as far away from me as possible.
@@nnm711 I think maybe there's a halfway point people can reach. Obviously, people should try to get their kids to behave and be considerate of others as much as they reasonably can but also it's just kind of a reality that some kids and babies are going to sometimes not be silent or invisible and it should be okay fo r them to be like that sometimes in public spaces.
@@ataraxia7439 If you can't get a babysitter, don't go out or choose a place that is child friendly. When I go out for drinks I don't want to have some random kid screaming nearby. You can buy some alcohol at the store and drink at home until you get a babysitter. A pub is a publicly accessible private space. Kids can go be kids at the park, the pub is not a park nor a place where kids should be present.
@@nnm711 Lmao, adults can't handle themselves in publics. Watching loud videos in pbjlic, blasting music at 3am, fighting, pissed drunk botjering people, being sex pests. But u mfers are going after some of the only people, kids to have a valid excuse
You don't understand, I still wouldn't save the stranger's child if my pet was safe and sound
Hey NL, I've been through the (what age do they do something weird in the LCBO) They just don't allow the under age person to touch the booze, or even put it on the checkout counter even if just trying to help your parent.
when he pinched his nose and said something, nl sounded so different i thought librarian had started overdubbing his own interjections and commentary
3:35 I definitely agree with this sentiment, I mean yeah it save up my money for monthly subscriptions, but I don't like that they drowning you in one go, it's like rotting your brain with too much content.
I come here to feel sane
Doing WHAT in the group chat??
*Niche Internet Microcelebrity I've never heard of talks about the public discourse of being child free*
Four minutes in: Yeah, so about the Fallout TV show...
My gerbils died when I was little and we held a burial and funeral in the back garden, buried together in a small cardboard box. By the end we were all laughing.
5:35 Real life Voight-Kampff test, good to know twitter failed it
"a society increasingly hostile to children is Bad, Actually"
-- Feral Pawg Hunter (@FeralPHunter), 2024
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I need me some more pet-free restauarants. Seen way too many "fur parents" (owners) with their lil rats on their lap at the nice dinner places over the last couple years. It's kinda gross
this
actually this makes you the weirdo
OTOH, I've never seen a single pet in all my patronage of Detroit and metro detroit restaurants. maybe we're based?
@@saintsalieri Idk, I don't feel very comfortable around dogs. I don't wanna be licked or have to think about whether I should be guarded in any way. Some of them are very cute but I just don't want to deal with what they bring to an interaction.
@@NotASummoner Yes, that makes you the weirdo. Dogs are such a part of human sociality that it's impossible to imagine us without them, really. They are a permanent and ubiquitous feature of our lives and that is not going to change so you should work on yourself instead of trying to force your anxieties upon others.
what about a binge model where they put the first 7 episodes out of a show at once then put the finale out in like a month?
edging
I'm with NL, I enjoy the weekly release schedule, like Shogun. It lets you simmer in the boiling pot of British sailor oil.
“Would you rather watch a shitty movie from 1978?” What kind of gotcha is that, chatter? Lol. “Would you rather watch a 90-minute movie that’s sort of bad or half a dozen 40-minute episodes you’re completely indifferent to?”
I was going to timestamp it but I can’t find the message anymore so I’m going to assume it is real and I’m not insane.
he's so funny man how does he do it
Are canadian bars not child free by default? I remember when my mom used to work as a musician at a bar when I was like 12 and had the police called on her just because I walked through the front into the back room.
Pubs arent bars, pubs are like restaurant but with a bigger drink menu and (frequently) a limited food menu. Bars only sell drinks and maybe some snacks.
The antinatalism discourse is so crazy when you actually look at birthrates... Nearly every Western country (and increasingly Asian countries as well) has negative birthrates and the difference is propped up by immigration. But what happens when the countries those people are emigrating from, modernize more and begin to have negative birthrates as well? The global fertility rate has been trending down since 1965 and is expected to drop below replacement levels in the next 10 years or so. The declining world population is going to become a huge issue overnight, and all these Redditor opinions about not having children will seem very insignificant compared to the global labor shortage, where countries are fighting over dwindling human capital.
For sure birth rates are an economic problem for countries that need to grow indefinitely. This isn’t because millions of people are suddenly like “I hate kids” it’s just less and less economically feasible to have kids. Focusing on antinatalism when looking at birth rates is ignoring the real problem of economic pressures not really giving people the option to have kids anymore
@@landonscott7943 The economy is a smaller part of the problem. People have had much higher birthrates in much worse economies for millennia. Even during the great Soviet famines where millions starved and money was worthless, they still had much higher birthrates than modern America. It's cultural, a disdain for children and pessimism about life generally, and the proliferation of birth control especially since the 60s (when the fertility rate started dropping).
It's not just "a problem for countries that need to grow indefinitely," it's a problem for the entire world having enough people to create food and transport it; increasingly harsh penalties for anyone wishing to leave their country ("you're too valuable to leave"); and over centuries, human extinction (since apparently nothing has been able to reverse the declining fertility rate for 60 years, what will be the solution?).
then I imagine we start downscaling rather than this infinite-line-goes-up thing we have going on currently. We start only producing as much as we need. Man, wouldn't that be something
careful you're gonna give some CEO's a heart attack talking like that
@@MetroAndroid I feel like I'm gonna be "that guy" but I genuinely don't think this is a problem to anyone but capitalists (as in, the capitalist class). A society which produces exactly what it needs to sustain itself with a slight surplus for trade and as a safety net is the ideal society, not the ever growing, infinite-growth-in-a-finite-universe mentality of capitalism. If you start viewing people as people and not "human capital" that exists only to further increase a meaningless number then the wellbeing of those people becomes a far clearer goal. That is achievable with our current level of technology and manpower, even without any AI. By the time this is a realistic problem globally we'll likely already have general AI that can work a significant % of the jobs discounting the need for manpower in the first place. Under capitalism, that's a dystopian reality with a 40% unemployment rate, under any reasonable system, it's a utopia.
Not to completely discredit your point, the birth rate IS decreasing instead of stabilizing, and while I do think that the economic aspect is a far bigger slice of the cake than you think, there are some cultural factors such as birth control, women entering the workplace/getting an education, dating apps/dating culture but I really doubt that birth control and feminism are the main factors for what we're seeing today. In a society where having children didn't significantly impact your wealth and therefore your wellbeing, in a society where those children are guaranteed to be taken care of and get a decent quality of life, people would be having far more children than they are today in the west. I do think there is a very real issue with modern dating culture for a variety of reasons, but I frankly don't really have any solutions for that, especially when it's just a fraction of the greater problem which is how tech companies are trying to squeeze every last drop of time and attention out of us at the cost of our mental and physical health, our socialization and our ability to function "normally". I sound like a boomer but I think the main cultural problems stem from social media companies killing our society to try to make a profit.
Hello to the gamers, welcome
it would be nice to have an hour to play balatro every so often outside of my 5 hours of balatro on stream everyday lol
BRING BACK 1 EPISODE A WEEK
NL after giving birth to the holy ghost (he meant to have a son first)
There's 3 pubs within a 12 min walking distance of me in my small town and I've been to some cities where there's 3 on the same street. I don't see how anyone in their right mind could possibly care that one is childfree
Northernlion loves monoculture
If you leave your baby outside the building they should take your baby and the weed. Baby inside the dispensary is totally fine. Catch my ass walking into auto zone with a 5 year old and someone starts yelling Sir, SIR. You can't bring them into the car part store, they can't drive
I can see why nothernlion think that regarding r/antinatalism but I disagree. The thing is antinatalism doesn't have a single core argument and nor there is a single core argument against it. Every antinatalist has a different take. That's why the wiki is written in multiple different perspective. This might be why you would antintalist if you are conservative, christian, buddhist, left wing etc etc.
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hey northern L
did you watch the fallout series yet?
Do American supermarkets not sell liquor, or do Americans just not take their kids to the supermarket either, just in case they see some booze on the shelf?
its a canada thing except quebec
who invited redditors into the comment section? WHERE ARE THEY?
Lets flip this around, do you guys think your pet would save you or an offspring of another member of its species if they were in that situation?
the solution is having enough patience for the world around you. you people are getting upset at people because you overexpose yourself to people and dont spend enough time not dealing with nonsense.