Hollywood's BIAS Exposed by Absurd DUNE 2 Oscar Noms
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- Discussing the insane lack of nominations for Dune Part 2 against a baffling near record amount of nominations for trash Oscar-bait films like Netflix's controversial Emilia Perez. I examine how this follows a long running Hollywood trend and reveals the utter disdain of genre films, especially science fiction and fantasy offerings.
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The fact that Emelia Perez is on the Oscars list not just once but 13 times tells you everything you need to know about the Oscars and how much would a joke they are and that no one is taking them seriously. So being snubbed by the Oscars right now is actually a good thing. I wouldn't want to be in the same company as Emilia Perez
I read the synopsis on Wikipedia and all I can say is, "why did they make this a Goddamn musical?"
@@CaptainSeato It was supposed to be "why did they make this?"
Emilia Perez has more noms than the Godfather. DEI is all they care about.
I think those 13 nominations are the nail in the coffin in whatever credibility they still had
Saw EP earlier today and hated every second of it. Nobody can take the Oscars seriously now. It is a joke
The Oscars are not about art any longer. Only identity, apparently. Absolute clown world..
I should write a script about a black, lesbian, transexual living in Notsee Germany. Hollywood will give me all the Oscars.
They were never about art.
Technically Gladiator II is about identity since Lucius is trying to figure out who he is, how he fits in the world, should he embrace his birthright?
Very very true . 👏
I would like Denny more if he hadn't ruined Chani.
Who cares what the Oscars think
Well, it was cool when Return of the King swept the Oscars. Because that movie's amazing.
It would be cool to see another great movie acknowledged
In truth the Oscars have not been remotely relevant, or even minimally legitimate or credible, in well over a decade.
they snubbed it because it was written at the time of the algerian war of independence
which mirrors the palestinian war for independence
hollywood is packed with small hatters like weinstein and they don't want the movie getting the recognition it deserves
it made me laugh when benocide shapiro reviewed it last year and gave it a massive thumbs up...he was either too dumb to realise what the movie was about, or he never watched it despite reviewing
That's exactly what I say when my favorite movies are completely ignored (99% of the time)
Then I act like Oscars are proof that a movie is amazing when my favorite movies win.
Filmmakers/actors care because the voters are their peers.
The Oscars have been out of touch for decades now. This does not surprise me. It's a bunch of snobs wallowing in their own crap and only giving credit to those wallowing with them.
That reminds me of a leaked conversation between the Oscar judges on how they decided the Best Picture a few years ago. It was so unserious and unprofessional.
The Academy is composed of many working actors. To many of them people in these comments are nerdy snobs.
They ignore incredible art because The Oscars are now a political machine and nothing more. I don't even take notice of The Oscars anymore, it's a joke and very disrespectful.
This year's Oscar nominations was the final nail in the coffin for me regarding the snobfest that is the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.
The final nail for me was, when Shakespeare In Love won back in the 90's
@@EdwardVonKhil For me it was 2010 when 'Inception', 'Black Swan', and 'The Social Network' all came out...all great, memorable films...and they all lost to...'The Kings Speech,' another precious period piece (that nobody saw or cared about) the Oscars seem to love
Only two films that deserve to be best picture nominees are Conclave and Dune pt2 everything else is either terrible or decent but not best pic worthy.
the oscars have meant fuck all to normal people for 5-10 years now. its a literal blowjob from hollywood to itself.. noone outside of it does (or should) give a shite about it, its all back-patting and cringey
Art? It’s politics wrapped up w/ART supposedly
What's even wilder is that Dune II is in competition for Best Picture with a film called _Emilia Pérez_ -- a musical that's currently sitting at a 19% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes, only made like $4 million at the box-office; and yet somehow has been nominated for more Oscars than A New Hope, The Godfather, Apocalypse Now, Titanic, Return of the King...
The Oscars are now totally irrelevant.
I love sci-fi and fantasy. I've never watched the Oscars. I can't sit through movies about boring people and their stupid problems.
It's not Sci Fi as such but more genre cinema. Horror, Westerns, Comedy all suffer.
Hollywood wants to cater to the lowest common denominator, so nerdy genres are seen as niche, and too much of a risk for them.
If it's not current or period drama it isn't seriously considered, and if it even gets nominated it's done so as a token for PR purposes with no intention of allowing them to win. One of the many reasons I haven't cared about the Oscars for decades.
I remember when Sigourney Weaver was nominated for best actress in Aliens. We were shocked an actress from a sci-fi movie was nominated. We knew she wouldn't win, the Academy has always snubbed sci-fi films. I was going to watch this year, but I'll pass.
good call as its just hollywood sucking off itself, or the bits that suit it this year. its meant nothing to normal people for going on a decade now- its all bluster and bullshit in most peoples eyes
I got a similar tough with Fury Road. Shoked to see an action movie gets nominated. But i know it will never gonna win. Still one of the best pictures i have ever seen
Star Wars gave birth to a generation of sci-fi fans. Annie Hall had Diane Keaton dressing like the character 24/7 years after the movie was forgotten.
🤣 That’s accurate. God damn.
I worked for the Academy in the past. Its very difficult having conversations about film with them because they are very critical about what they consider “cinema” and worth holding up in high regards. “Snobby” is definitely a word, but “frustrating” is more accurate as a movie lover.
The most frustrating is how they will refer to anything else as “genre” and yet ignore the fact that drama is just another genre. Celebration of film just isn’t what they are about and they made that evident when they tried to cut the awards for Best Edit and Cinematography.
Thank you for your thoughts. I agree. :)
@@blockboygames5956 "they tried to cut the awards for Best Edit and Cinematography" they did that? They tried to cut 2 of the most important things to make a great movie instead of Best Special effects or Best Costume? With all respect to the people who work in this things, but they arent necessary to do a great movie...
Timothy should’ve been nominated for Best Actor for Dune: Part Two. His performance in the gathering sequence of the movie was amazing
Let the Oscars praise who they want. We Science Fiction and Fantasy and Horror Fans will praise our genres our own way, by supporting them in theaters, conventions, subscribing to streaming services to watch them, thru merchandise, etc,. Providing a successful career for those who make what we love, will shine brighter than any Oscar!
The back of the Oscars don't have a category and award for stunt people is also an egregious, extremely egregious slap in the face to those who truly make the movies work and help keep the industry going. The Oscar's have been nothing more than a rigged popularity contest for over a decade.
I forgot about Annie Hall. I've got one for you. The 1975 Oscars for Best Actor. Nominees included: Jack Nicholson for Chinatown, Dustin Hoffman for Lenny & Al Pacino for Godfather Part II AND the winner - Art Carney for Harry and Tonto. An old man on a road trip with his cat. Yes it's a cute movie but..... So the Oscars have done this sort of garbage before. These egregious mistakes by the academy is nothing new. Another one is Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan.
Totally agree. I was 18 when Godfather Part 11 was released and all these years later I can still remember the effect Pacino's performance as Michael had on me.
Genre films, especially science fiction, have always struggled at the Oscars. I'm not surprised at all. Nolan didn't get his win until he started making historical dramas, and while I think they're great, movies like Inception or Interstellar were truly one of a kind and even more deserving.
The Oscars have been biased against Sci-Fi. The original TRON was refused a nomination for special effects because it was felt using computers was "cheating".
Sci-Fi has never been considered "serious" film-making. Despite the box-office takings.
Dune parts 1 & 2 combined made over $1.1 billion…. Emilia Perez made like twenty-seven dollars and 38 cents. The audience votes with their wallets, while the academy votes on ballots. No one cares about the Oscar’s anymore. Yes, Denis absolutely deserves not only a nomination but the best director award… and hopefully he knows that the audience and fans appreciate his talent more than one little statue could ever signify.
It's time like these that Dennis Villeneuve gotta hit the Oscars with lead them to paradise. That would be such a good Oscar acceptance line just walks off stage.
After the deserved backlash in 2022 the Academy Awards began airing the technical awards again the following year. Dune Part Two deserved better this awards season. But you know what? This film will stand the test of time. It’s my favourite of 2024 and I know a lot of moviegoers feel the same way.
The Oscars get less viewership than any of the moves who did not get nominations. The Oscars have lost any and all relevance. I have my issues with Villeneuve's lack of understanding of Dune as a story, but even as a Science Fiction film director he should have at least gotten a Nomination. No one takes them seriously, no one watches them.
Dune 2 deserves all the noms and WINS !!!!
I gave up on the awards when Apocalypse Now lost to Kramer v. Kramer. Haven't wasted a minute thinking about this ever since. I know that Dune II was the best film I saw last year. While maybe the acting awards aren't so much warranted, I believe director, music, editing, SFX, cinematography should be locks, and a top contender for best film. Just not worth expending brain cells wondering about it.
I do not need awards ceremonies to tell me what is good, awards seem to be largely political
Denis wasn't even nominated for Blade Runner 2049.
That is also a crime.
Emília Perez is a crime to cinema even used A.I have more nominations than Dune is absurd. Even I'm Still Here deserves better
Even the matrix didn't win an Oscar...
Like how does the matrix not win an Oscar
The academy isn't going to honor a movie about a 'white savior.'
But would honor a fake Mexican movie about a drug lord who transitions and is suddenly a good person.
Which is especially sad because Paul is *not* a ‘white saviour’.
Dune 2 was an amazing theater experience, over 2 hours and 30 mins and I wanted more by the end. I haven’t been able to watch a full clip of this Emilia Perez movie without turning it off 40 seconds in. The Oscar’s are irrelevant.
If Paul had a scene where he gets an x change and became Paula, it would have improved their chances at the oscars. The Oscar’s have been irrelevant a long time ago.
I have never cared about these stupid awards. I know those who receive them do, but to me it is irrelevant.
Emilia Perez is one nomination shy of Titanic, 1 nomination more than Ben-Hur, and 2 more than The Lord of the Rings Return of the King. One of these is NOT like the others.
The Oscars were using the noms to make a political statement against Trump. Thus, Dune plays second fiddle to "Man to woman, Woman to man, Penis to Vah-gi-nah". The Oscars showed what many of us have suspected for some time - they care more about messaging than quality.
I haven’t watched the Oscar’s in years. So much of it seems agenda driven and not representative of true art and achievement. I know it’s disappointing for filmmakers but I don’t think the public cares anymore.
Dune 2 was the best movie I saw last year and I won't be watching the Oscars.
The Oscar's betrays itself into irrelevancy.
The Oscars probably looked at this and thought it was a wealthy, titled, imperial, colonialist, white saviour leading brown natives to freedom from his privileged class in their own land. 🤦
Ever has it been, every shall it be. Haven’t bothered watching since the Dark Knight got snubbed in 2009.
Does anyone outside of Hollywood actually care about the Oscars anymore? It's not about good movies, it's about checking boxes.
The Oscars nomination process is idiotic and the prize has no real meaning at all for at least 4-5 years now.
It made sense that Return Of The King got Best Picture, simply because it was the film that finished Lord Of The Rings trilogy story. In that sense, all three Lord of the Rings movies got Best Picture. The fact that Dune Part II has been so snubbed, baffles me. I stopped watching the Oscars years ago.
The Oscars are utterly disconnected from the history of cinema and its history-in-the-making.
The Oscars are a bunch of snobs who like to promote arthouse nonsense that does nothing to excite the general audience.
I have seen all the Best Picture Nominees for this year's Oscars and IMO the only two films that are best picture material are Conclave and Dune Part2. But I would not be surprised if the film that ends up winning picture is Emilia Perez the film that offended an entire continent and an entire group of people at the same time and is an absolutely dreadful film in every way , with a 5.8 on IMDB it would be one of the lowest rated best picture wins ever. If Dune Pt2 Wins though that would make up for Villeneuve's snob in the Director and Adapted Screenplay category.
Thor Ragnarok really was the Beginning of the End... Since then, aside from the Last Mission Impossible that nearly put me to sleep in the theater and Oppenheimer i mainly saw because my Dad invited me, DUNE part 1&2 are the ONLY MOVIES TO EXCITE ME (or that i have bought to re-watch anything like movies from decades past). This makes DUNE an Endangered Species, like the Unicorns in Legend. All this to say that the Rest of the World will DESPISE the Success & Lasting Hold Dune Achieves, where as Everything Else in the Age of the Reverse Enlightened Woketards will be Forgotten to the point of never have Existed in the first place. And i pray for that day.
Just a list of great directors who never get an Oscar: Ridley Scott, Tarantino, Tim Burton(not even a nomination), David Lynch, STANLEY KUBRICK, Akira Kurosawa, John Woo, Alfred Hitchcock, Paul Verhoeven, STANLEY KUBRICK, Denis Villeneuve, M. Night Shyamalan, Hayao Miyazaki, David Fincher and, i say STANLEY KUBRICK?
There are a lot more, but i tried to stick to the more influential and well known . At the end is a competition and some ones at least get nominated and lost to another good director (like Wes Anderson to say one)
The Oscars have completely blown any credibility they might have because of how excessively Emilia Perez was nominated. What a joke.
Good thing I don’t watch any award shows, but I do go to film festivals.
Academy: Why don’t normal people watch these any more? Why do people keep saying it’s just for weird pretentious concept films and biopics?
Also the Academy: We’re going to bypass high concept artistically done sci fi, fantasy, and horror and nominate a bunch of weird pretentious films that no one has seen and a few biopics featuring A listers who gained and lost weight for these roles
The Oscars are absolute Garbage. If they actually gave a damn anymore about real art, Dune Part 2 would freight train the whole damn thing...IMO. Josh Brolin nails it on the head.
I love Villeneuve’s films. Not only are they gorgeous to look at, but they all have their own tone. It’s disappointing his Dune movies didn’t get the respect they deserved, but the Oscar’s are a joke…they have been for a while. If you doubt, look up some clips of that Netflix movie that got 13 nominations…it’s a travesty!
The art world always has, and always will be dominated by snobbery.
trully, he altered Chanis character JUST for this.... im kinda glad he didnt get it.
It's doesn't matter all the Oscars will go to the Trans person and that transmovie. It's a given.
Awards are for those who belong to the clique. That is the way. Awards are a joke.
Ok but honestly Annie Hall waa better than Star Wars
There a reason I haven't cared about the Oscars for at least 2 decades.
Anything that isn't obscure indie drama or drama from a specific small list of directors/producers/actors isn't seriously considered no matter how good they are.
Like Elaine, I have plenty of issues with Villeneuve's version of Dune, but that doesn't make the Academy's willful refusal to pay the slightest attention to these movies any less of a ridiculous decision obviously driven by the moronic genre snobbery of the Oscars.
I'm so glad to hear that Oscar got his own awards show! Being a little green puppet living in a garbage can behind sesame street is a really tough life for anyone. Also, we're watching Dune 2 for the tenth time (I think, it might be 12). Wow, like Star Wars did for the good-kid us'es, Denis' actual award-winning work does for the giddy excited kid in adult us'es. Can't wait for Messiah! (Feed the monster, get a bigger monster.)
Dune pt2 is a perfect film.
These movie awards haven’t been about best movies in long time, it’s been about what movies check the most boxes., for example:
-Drama or musical
-mid-twentieth century setting
-current relevant social issues
it was meh. Villedunes are giga overrated as a movie. they have excellent moments, but are horrible as a whole. only people who are fans of the books disagree.
Villeneuve should move to theatre productions, that's where his talents lie.
Book fans don’t like the movies that much it seems, so you’re wrong
Dune 2 was a highly flawed adaptation but a thousand times better than that joke of Perez whatever 🤢
I think you've been too hard on Dune 2 in previous videos tbh, so this video was a bit surprising.
Sci Fi movies, along with fantasy films, have always only ever received a grudging acknowledgement from the academy.
On the bright side, IMO, no one cares about the Academy Awards anymore.
Critical acclaim isn't supposed to stem from fun movies. You're supposed to sit there as if you're being taken to school and take the Oscar winning film very seriously and you are not allowed to enjoy it. Which is easy since the Oscar winner is not a fun movie.
At this point, _not_ getting nominated for an Oscar should be seen as the honor.
As someone who read the books a long time ago the worm riding scene was great.
Seen reactors that were not aware of the mechanics of worm riding that were too confused by what was going for it to be a great scene for them.
As a movie fan, I used to stay up late to watch the Oscars, but that was a long time ago. I get what you say about the disdain for genre films, with LOTR as a necessary exception. I would have given Jennifer Lawrence an Academy Award for her performance in The Hunger Games, but I knew that would never happen until she did some more ‘artistic’ work. Of course, a part in a dystopian YA heroin won’t be considered if there are mad villains, historical figures, or characters that match certain political agendas out there. And, actually, these are the characters that you can find a lot of documentation about and do research about. A lot of the real challenges in acting are, in fact, discarded, like making a non-existing fantasy character or creature credible on screen, acting against green screens or performing motion caption, like Andy Serkis so often did. We’ve been so spoiled when it comes to good acting that I would love an award for best actress/actor go to a really remarkable achievement.
That being said, as a big fan of the Dune novel, I had my issues with this adaptation, especially part 2. But I will admit that the cinematography was gorgeous! It looked exactly like it had looked in my mind’s eye while reading it. It made a huge impression! But I think they actually portrayed some of the characters in a disrespectful way. I’m also not a big fan of reducing great cinema to stunning cinematography. In the end, a movie has to tell a great story. A great movie is a movie you will rewatch. In the end, I don’t think the changes they made to the Dune story translated well, even though this was visually the superior adaptation. In a similar way I can acknowledge that the 2024 Nosferatu remake had some beautiful tableaux vivants, some artistic qualities, interesting themes and ideas, but that couldn’t make up for the dull storytelling, awful characters and the level of insanity and disgust (which made me hate it as a whole, while I still liked Dune part 2). It’s often that sense of (feigned) intellectualism that makes for efficient award-bait these days…
Most styfy and fantasy films rarely win best film, director, and actor or supporting actor. They can win for everything else but... There does seem to be a clear bias, even before they became the norm in Hollywood, but now as it's standard in film making you think they would take some of the major awards...
Thank you for an interesting and informative video. Blessings!
One Flew Over the cuckoo nest was the first movie that won best picture that was designed to win awards rather than appeal to audiences. The original Jaws lost too. Between The Sting and titanic no biggest picture won best picture
uhh, Annie Hall is a classic
much better film than star wars
I think its funny that you came to a channel called 'Nerd Cookies' to say that.
i can still love star wars tho :))
but annie hall is just a different kinda movie yknow?
Needed musical number 🎵Man to Worm, Worm To Man, Leto will be Emperor🎵
If Villeneuve had made Chani the messiah instead of Paul, the movie would have been nominated for 12 oscars
Does this surprise you? Hollywood stopped catering to their audiences years ago. Now it's all about political correctness. Things will get worse before they get better.
Dune 3 ganará el Óscar a mejor película, se está repitiendo la historia de El señor de los anillos
Thank you for reminding me why I no longer watch the Oscars. Just ridiculous!
I’ve worked in the industry and I even dated an academy member. The thing that you have to know about the Oscar’s is that a lot of people who can afford to pay not only their guild dues but also academy dues are wealthier and older academy members many of whom treat the Oscar’s like it’s their big contribution to society. Like they do nothing in their personal lives for others but then awards season rolls around and they think voting for The Green Book is their contribution to ending racism. You’ve also gotta contend with the other half being rich nepo babies who vote based on very superficial reasons. Movies that have broader appeal and make a happy statement and are accessible to everyone from the grip to the old timer production managers are most likely to win. I dated someone in the academy who voted for Manchester By The Sea despite looking at her phone through half the movie because it “felt important.” It’s not movie fans or even critics who give awards its movie staff members and many of them are shallow or just old.
Also forgot to mention it’s about people getting their “turn”. Happened with Brendan Frazier, Ke Huy Quan, Jamie Lee Curtis, and others who have compelling personal stories.
I think this was also a case for the idea that the source material and overarching story weren't well received or understood. It's a grand epic lacking the foundational gravitas embedded in its own legend. The academy didn't know what to do with it. As for DV being snubbed, that's just politics and unfair. Irrespective of the storytelling failures of Dune, it was still an incredible feat he performed to put all of the different elements together in a way to create such a visually compelling saga.
Science-fiction is always seen as "lesser" than other genres... added to the fact that the Oscars is a group of people congratulating each-other in some form of closed circle... you get this situation where Denis Villeneuve doesn't get recognition because he's not part of the clique.
Dune part two was much worse than part one, makes sense it has fewer nominations. There were better movies this year and they got nominations. If anything, Dune Part I was robbed.
Dune 2 was superior in every single way.
Well many has claimed Dune is a White Savior Film and Hollywood is still pretty WOKE so this doesn't surprise me anymore.
Mr. Mayer would be ashamed of what his Hot Dog Intracounty Short Film Festival Awards have turned into…
Since "Patton" war movies have taken a dive also.
"A quiet place" coming on the heels of "Get Out" only got "Sound editing?? A Quiet Place changed how we watch movies in theaters. It didn't have social commentary so that was it's sin.
Theater nerds aren't into sci-fi? Big surprise right! 😂
Emilia DEIrez is a tailor-made OSCAR movie (WOKE AF) so no wonder why Hollywood is all up this movie's ass....
All 17 people who give a sh*t about the dying oscars are so excited I guess... 😏😏
I wasn't aware the Oscars still existed... question is why 🤔.
Should have come up with a better ending than Chani running off to the desert to cry by herself
Time and audience are the only indicators of how good a movie is.
One of the many reasons why the Oscars has been irrelevant for years! How they snubbed this guy for the 2nd time is unbelievable. He's on a short list of true visionary film makers out there, like Christopher Nolan, and this is how they treat him. F those out of touch snobs at the Oscars.
Exactly, nobody cares about the oscars.
I honestly believe - and I will beat this drum all the way to my grave - that the ppl that make up the film industry need to make their own awards. Not the directors, not the producers or studio clowns, but the people that work 80hr weeks on set and are somehow after all the grueling hours and strikes and safety concerns and low pay, still PASSIONATE about films… THOSE PEOPLE need to build and curate their own annual awards ceremony.
Look up how and why the Oscars were initially created, Louis B Mayer, and then come back and re read this.
People who don’t even like or know the Dune story loved this film… Denis Villeneuve doesn’t need the award, he’s proven his capacity for great films time and time again, but it would be great to see him recognized.
How many Themes did John Williams carry Over between STAR WARS movies? That's the Lamest excuse like there was a competition.
For over a decade the Oscars have been it's own joke and punch line. To the point you can walk up on stage, physically assault someone, not get arrested, and recieve an award after the fact.
Spot on. The nominations are a joke. I've stopped caring about oscars years ago because the genres I like are never taken seriously. Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Comics etc. And it's so true that movies that come out later in the year are considered more than those that come out earlier. I can't believe that Emilia Perez has so many nominations, it's a joke. I've only seen clips from that movie and at first, with the musical I thought it was an AI edited meme. Absolutely horrible.
It was a long running joke in many comedies he starred in--Bob Hope getting an Oscar. Comedies almost never get noms.