Using Apiguard for Varroa Mite Treatment
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- How we use Apigaurd as a varroa mite treatment and how we check for mites using a Varroa EasyCheck alcohol wash.
Please note that although in this video we show the EasyCheck being shaken, it is more effective to swirl the container so mites will settle to the bottom, which is what we normally do.
Apiguard, www.dadant.com...
Varroa EasyCheck, www.mannlakelt...
Bob, near the beginning you said that you “got side tracked”, I enjoy listening to you speak about the bees so please feel free to get side tracked anytime in your videos!
Thanks, I tend to think out loud a lot. Some might call it rambling.
@@bobbinnie9872 i like your side Tracks too.
@@bobbinnie9872 The little tidbits that come in the "ramblings" from your decades of experience are invaluable for 1st generation sideline/commercial beekeepers
@@bobbinnie9872 I call it "fascinating related stories and learning"!
And your rambling is still fun to listen to, so it's not a problem...
@@bobbinnie9872 i could listen to you talk for hours!!!
Who would have thought watching mite treatments would be so entertaining. Thank you guys for all the good information and entertainment! Keep up the excellent work!
Get side tracked any time you like Bob, I always learn a lot no matter what you say.
Hi Bob
My name is Yosef I'm a beekeeper from Israel
I watch all your videos and it's great
Hi Yosef, thank you.
@@bobbinnie9872 what is your email pleas?
Your videos are just so great I come back and watch them over and over they are just wonderful I learn a lot thanks again for doing them for us. have a blessed week
all nice people work together as a teamwork
Mr. Bob, it is an excellent job. Thank you for this further education and education
thank you for an insight on your process and how you work a yard. Great info...and very impressive
*You don't treat for the fun of it*
_thanks for sharing interesting content Bob_ 👍🇺🇲
Thanks for mentioning about the three-quarter a spacer important for a lot of people include me
Good job Mr. Bob. Always learn so much.
Bob I run only 150 hives. I had high losses 2022/2023. I used this season Russian products.
Spring Apidez
Summer busanar 3x
End of summer ekopol.
Fall 2 x amitraz
Winter 1 x amitraz security treatment
....
So far no losses. Only few where the queens were missing.
Bisanar seems to be effective and I llan to swap from dribble to fumigation.
Always great info Bob, we always refer our customers to professionals such as yourself and Kamon. You still love what you do. Sharing your knowledge helps others be better beekeepers and keep their bees alive. Your "rambling" as you call it, are great tid bits of info. Have a great one, see you in Jan in Sevierville TN
Great Video, Thank you for taking your time to make these instructional videos. I'm a first year bee keeper and have learned everything by watching your videos.
I use to use apiguard in much the same way in fall and early spring had good results. Learned a hard lesson about using it in the hot Florida summers though.
Apiguard worked very good for me last august. I did the dosage like you did. Years ago with full dosage i would have 3-4 colonies abscond and others all out on front. The reduced dosage seems like it don't bother the bees at all. Also great to see some cutting up amongst y'all in video. Thank you for your work!!
Hitting high 80s low 90s with humidity in Virginia. Are you doing 25-30g for double deeps and less than 20 for singles?
@@mriley528 i do 30 ml from 85-95. If over 95 i do 25.
I usually do not have double deeps in august. I have either singles of deep and single. I du nucs at half the dosage i do the 10 frame boxes.
@@randallcarter-carterhillho2277 I do something similar, I run a deep with a medium over winter, but I have a handful that will probably be double deeps. Probably going to do 30ml every 7 days for 3 weeks for both sizes. I trade local keepers for hygienic diversity, but still want to get a nice summer treatment in before they start making winter bees
Thanks Bob and crew
I’ve been following your advice from last years video using apivar to get the bees ready. I appreciate the apiguard video as well so I can switch it up.
Always a pleasure!
I like apiguard. I used apivar and my counts after treatment was 28/300. So I used OA vape to get mites on bees and did 2 treatments of apigusrd and the bees are beautiful. I will do OA vape again. I had huge mite drop with apiguard. Wonderful.
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Thanks Mr. Binnie!! I'm already looking forward to the next one. You are the main reason I'm not afraid of becoming a beekeeper. God bless you 🙏
We are just pulling our supers off this weekend. We have a section of 2nd cut alfalfa on one side of our apiary and a lake on the other side so we have a great food source. Most apiaries in our area or northern alberta are in dearth . Knock on wood we have a great rancher that allows us to house our apiary on his 25000 acre ranch.
Great video guys!
It sounds like you are very lucky. I used to make alfalfa in North Dakota and it's great honey in m y view.
I bought those same frame feeders after seeing it on your videos. Boy do they work slick. Sure beats those small jars I was using.
Very helpful and interesting thanks for your hard work
I've been looking for information about Apiguard. This video is very helpful. Much appreciated Bob!
Thanks.
Thank you for your time to educate us hobby BEEKs
Great video Bob!!! Thanks!!!
I took to hem yesterday at he’s place he is a really nice man
It may be cheaper to use Dawn Ultra Dish soap (clear soap). Randy Oliver had great success with this and it's much more plentiful than rubbing alcohol these days. Switched to this new method of monitoring.
Thanks.
This stuff IS the Platinum bullet to Mite drops. Pull the last of honey for the season, I do early 7 am yard treatments, it is difficult to time. Because it ruins the honey and you don't dare pull it afterward for a long time! Especially timing it before the temp changes in September. I wear a Tyvex suit , Moldex FULL FACE with a P100 and NIOSH rated Organic vapors cartridge or you will end up with long term lung damage from this stuff in the future. Ask me. I know. We try to keep it in an Ice chest and Cool helps slow down that vapor "flash off". from the gel.
2 comments. Love the sound of that lid getting cracked at 5:10. You know them bees below are good before you even see them when you hear that sound. Boom!!!
2ndky.... The Caucasians are great bees. Our package bee reseller n Fairbanks Alaska has been raving about them. Made an average of 15 gallons there this year on them.
If that won't help pat the bills nothing will.
Thank you
I love the efficiency, you need to check out randy Oliver’s mite washer
Good information
This process of shaking bees make me cringe. The day when we don’t need to treat for mites will come. I split very aggressively for the brood breaks of 21 days or so. This helps drastically with the mites.
Hello Professor Bob, I liked your dedication to work. A young man, 39 years old, has been a beekeeper for 20 years. I am looking for a job. Do you employ foreigners? Thank you.
Thank you for the inquiry but we don't need any extra help at this time.
Great video on Thymol Bob and crew! I appreciate the inside look as to not only “How” but as to the “Why”. Those Caucasian x Carni genetics are going like gang busters up here in Ohio! Thanks again for everything Bob.
Hi Greg. Thanks.
Thank you Bob for another video full of good information. We happen to like very much when you 'sidetrack' and talk about something related, some great knowledge comes out when that happens; this time you mention not liking going into winter with massive populations, and we were a bit intrigued as new beekeepers are told to seek going into winter with big clusters to survive. Is this relates to amount of resources? Thank you again Bob
In our area 6 frames of healthy bees will get through the winter just fine and will use a lot less resources to do it. The type of bee does make a difference though. Carniolan and Caucasian bees tend to be more winter hardy than Italians. It has to do with where those races evolved.
Thank you @@bobbinnie9872 for taking the time to reply, much appreciated as always.
Mr Bob. I don’t recall ever watching a video of you harvesting supers. Would like to see a video of yall in action
The only video on this so far is "How We Remove Bees From Honey Supers. th-cam.com/video/6ldD3cNGung/w-d-xo.html
That stuff looks just like soap foam it’s amazing how much work bee keepers put in making honey I see better now why it costs so much for a little jar thanks for sharing buddy hope these videos help others god bless everyone
Hello Bob, I saw the green plastic frames in several supers. Some had one, some had 2. I assume those are for drones? How do you decide when and how many to install? Thank you. These videos are so helpful.
We like to have a drone frame in every brood nest although they occasionally show up in deep boxes being used for an extracting super. You might check out our video "Drone Comb & Drone Mating Behavior" th-cam.com/video/w25tA-W7N6g/w-d-xo.html
@@bobbinnie9872 Thank you.
Question. I have some double nucs 2-3 deep with 4 frames per box. How much do you think I should use? I'm at 8-12 frames per colony. I've never used it before. Then after watching you adjust for size box and temperature. I'm just not sure what the heck I'm doing. I don't want to have them all take off. The temperature is fine, we're back to 70-84 for the high. I've learned a lot from you. TH-cam is great. We all get to learn from people with great knowledge and experience. Hopefully bypassing so many mistakes as a new bee keeper. Thank you for putting in the time to making the videos. You've gotten pretty good at it.
I would try 25 grams and watch them carefully. Thanks.
hey bob...you have a link to your veil and hard hat. --great video!!
I purchased them from Kelly Beekeeping which is now owned by Mann Lake but I don't see what I have in their catalog.
Sir what category your you tube channel please tell me
I'm looking to put my 2nd full dose of apigaurd on Tuesday being as the following week is below 80 degrees and in high 70s. How long should I leave this second one on for and can I super up after a period of time to try to get a golden rod flow. We have a 100 acres of goldenrod around my hives and I was hoping to nab a little bit since I didn't get any honey this year as I was in split and expansion mode utilizing all that information you taught me with these videos!!
Здравствуйте Боб скажите пожалуйста что за гель спасибо
Apigaurd "thymol" gel.
@@bobbinnie9872 спасибо большое Боб
Hi Bob, some 10 days ago or so I applied apiguard for the first time in my small apiary. I have noticed that colonies do not take syrup as they used to do. What could be the reason for that, smell from apiguard or...Did you noticed something similar, so far?
It can slow them down but they should get back to it if there are plenty of bees.
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Why do you leave the truck doors open?
We leave our water bottles in the truck and use them often.
This video would have been helpful about a month ago. I lost a little over 20% when I gave full dose and tells where in the 90s. I had one colony with 7 in the wash, all the others had 0-3 in the wash. I killed some good queens.
I’m excited to here you speak in person at the hive life conference. Thanks for all your great videos.
Would there be this big mite problem if bee keepers didn't have so many hives in the same area?
Mite problems are less when there are less colonies in one area.
If queen doesn't lay will that help with varroa treatment.
I can only theorize, but I think so.
Hi, I am a young beekeeper who raises bees in Korea. Is there any way to buy and use them in Korea? I hope I can buy it on Amazon
Sorry, I don't know.
Would be good if you say the date of the shooting when you're monologuing so we know when it was shot in reference to any timeframes you say.
You're right. Seems like there's always something I miss. The date was August 20. Thanks.
@@bobbinnie9872 thanks! Keep up the good content production. It's great! Hope you're doing well.
What are they pumping into the hive?
Apiguard gel mite treatment.
Follow up question Bob. Need your help.
Six days ago, on a 55 degree day, I gave an OAV treatment because I was seeing a few mites on my bottom pest tray.
Two days after treatment I counted 249 dead adult mites. Following day I counted 159 adults mites. Following day there were 137-mix of adults and white infants. . Today, which is six days after treatment, I counted 97; a lot of which were smaller and white infant mites.
Are these numbers alarming? Would you do another treatment in a couple weeks, or could these numbers be fall offs from VSH cleaning?
Thank you.
Hi Brad. I believe I would do another treatment now no matter what the reason for those results.
How much Apiguard would a 5 frame queen castle need? The queen is about a month old.
Temperatures would play a big roll in this but in our area I would probably try 12 gram on one and see what happens.
Greetings sir. I have a question, how to make the syrup bee feeder you have? Could you give me instructions to construct such feeder or eventually to tell me where I can buy it?
Thanks in advance
We purchase our inside feeders from Mann Lake. www.mannlakeltd.com/shop-all-categories/hive-colony-maintenance/feeders/pro-feeders
@@bobbinnie9872 Hello Bob. This site won't open for some reason, but thanks anyway. I follow your channel regularly. Greetings from Serbia.
Please what is the name of this medicine for moths
Paradichlorobenzene.
Great video Bob, Now I see how easy it is to use I will be trying Apiguard next mite season. I run five frame deep nuc's five over five, what your recommendation for the dose on them 30ml ? treat them like a single ten frame.
I would treat them like a single ten frame.
Hi Bob. Thanks for the continued sharing. How long will a tub of Apiguard last if not completely used up? With lid on proper and in a shed. How about a climate controlled area?
It does slowly degrade after opening, even if kept cool. By next year I would probably not use it.
What type of feeders are you using
Our inside feeders are called cap and ladder feeders from Mann Lake. www.mannlakeltd.com/beekeeping/hives/feeders/9-1-8-pro-feeder-2-1-2-wide-1-1-2-gallon-with-cap-ladder-180-feeders/
We use apiguard but I couldn't never sacrifice bees in an alcohol wash
I love your honeybee videos and I was watching your mite treatment and I am wondering where you get the bucket of Apiguard mite treatment from I want to order some of it in a half gallon bucket or a quart. Thanks and God bless you!
www.dadant.com/catalog/m01481-apiguard-3kg-tub
put me on your list, i would like to buy some of those older queens and try out. thanks
Bob, thank you so much for posting these videos. One question, what are you feeding the bees and how do you get it in such quantities? Thanks again!
We're feeding one to one in this video and we mix our own from granulated sugar that we purchase by the semi load.
@@bobbinnie9872 , Wow, that's impressive. I need to find a semi-truck full of honey!
Can you do apiguard treatment and feed simultaneously? I thought no.
Myself and others I know do it all the time. Check out the manufactures site. www.vita-europe.com/beehealth/products/apiguard/
hi bob ,love the video ,and education ,do you ever use dishsoap instead of alcohol,like randy
I haven't yet but I intend to try it. Thanks.
Nice set up 4 hives side by side, but, my bees are agressive, it would be advisable doing it like that?
These are set up on pallets for easy moving. Working mean bees on pallets is harder because touching the first one disturbs the rest.
Mr. Professor Bee Bob"!
I have not seen the Apigard foamed form in Europe! factory foamed or did you mix it with water?? Hello from Hungary! (oxalic acid is in fashion here recently...) how many times a year (4-5-6?) should the 1.5 gallon feeder be filled with syrup and what kind of corn syrup??
All of the Apiguard I know of in this country is in a gel form. There are recipes for making your own but I purchase the name brand Apiguard. Oxalic is gaining popularity here also and we use it in the winter when the colonies are broodless. Different colonies and different years have a different feed regimen. Some get almost none and some may get 10 buckets of sucrose sugar syrup. It depends on many factors.
Thank you for these great videos. So it sounds like you try and give 50 grams once a week for two weeks. If needed, you will add a third dose? I’ve been using 1/2 a tray of Apiguard (~25 grams) with mixed results. Some mite counts go up and some go down even after 4 weekly treatments. It’s been hot in the Piedmont of NC.
Yes, we'll check mite counts before giving a third treatment. If we still have a few mites we'll do a third.
On this how much to use 90 degree here in Florida our weather is up and hurricane season I got singles now
I would recommend half doses with a rim in your situation. You might try a couple of colonies and make sure it's not driving all the bees out before doing all your colonies. Some bees hanging outside at first is normal if it's hot.
@@bobbinnie9872 ok Bob thanks only got four hives 30 mm will be 👌
Drone frame in every colony? Will that help draw worker foundation more true? Goldenrod flow is heavy this year in my area, filling frames fast and nucs drawing foundation. I usually have to feed by September15th when the flow finally starts but this year it bloomed four weeks early.
Yes, we try to have a drone frame in every colony to give the bees a place to have drone comb so there will be less drone brood on worker comb and also to make sure we have plenty of drones for mating queens. That"s good news on your golden rod flow.
I noticed that you don't have pollen sub on, is that to get the bees focused on the treatment or something else?
At the time of this video we knew that the queens weren't laying much because of the treatment and that a fall pollen flow was going to start within a week or two so we opted not to feed pollen supplement. The most common time for us to use supplement is in late winter or in mid summer during a drought year.
Hey Bob I hope all is well. I'm in central AR and pulled honey on the 4th and did an alcohol wash and had averaged 8 to 12 mites per 300 on my colonies which is way above where I need to be. I used Apivar prior to this and I don't think it did the trick. We are having a bad heat wave here with high humidity; temperatures consistently 95 to 100 with no end in site. My main question is I really want to use Apiguard, but boy I'm afraid even a 1/2 dose might be too much with this heat (Running double deeps with brood super put on after honey extraction). With that being said I feel like I really need to treat with these current mite numbers, so I'm thinking of Oxalic acid now and then Oxalic acid again in the broodless period end of Nov 1st part of Dec. Also not much here in the way of end of summer flow or fall flow we get a mild amount of goldenrod but it's nothing to write home about. I would greatly value your opinion on my current situation. Thank you for all of the videos and all of the advice it is greatly appreciated!
Hi Christopher. It looks like some sort of treatment is needed before things get way out of hand. The oxalic vaporization will work right now but treatments would need to be close together and numerous. The current thinking is 3 or 4 days apart, at least 7 times. When broodless in winter only twice is needed. Good luck.
@@bobbinnie9872 Thanks a million Bob I'll let you know how it goes!
If the borders open up will you sell queens to alberta ,Canada ?
Sorry, we don't ship queens. We are not a large queen producer and sell everything we have as pick up only.
Better to swirl with the mite wash rather than shake up and down so the mites can sink.
I agree, thanks.
Hey Bob. So if this Apiguard can shut queen laying down, this should not be used early spring-correct? Can this treatment effect wax and or brood? I’m thinking of trying it. It’s best for treating after spring flow and late fall-correct?
I've used Apiguard in the spring and found it useful. It can slow the queen down some but not as bad as it does in warm, late summer weather. Thymol does get absorbed by beeswax in a big way but it dissipates rapidly so I don't consider it an issue.
Hi Bob. In the video there’s a of a alcohol wash picture that probably had 30 or more mites in it. What did you treat that hive with and did it survive?
Hi Jon. That picture is taken from another source and wasn't from my colonies. However, I have had numbers like that on other occasions and was able to save them as long as it wasn't too late in the season.
Thank you!
One question: One treatment is enough? Or two weeks later the second time?
It depends on the mite numbers. The last yard I showed had low numbers so I felt one was enough. For larger numbers we would want to use at least two or possibly three. Having treatment present through a cycle of brood would have the greatest affect.
@@bobbinnie9872 Oh, i'm sorry. Now I understand. Thank you very much for your answer. Best regards
Mr Bob, what are injecting the apiguard into? Are those paper towels???
They are cards that come with the apigaurd.
Would you consider treating with Formic Acid since it is similar to the Apiguard treatment? Or do you feel you get better results with Apiguard?
Although my past experience with formic acid has been negative I know of several large beekeepers that feel it's their best choice. Like Apigaurd, I believe there's a learning curve with formic acid and it can be used effectively. Apiguard is definitely safer to handle for us but formic is less toxic to the colony in the end. Handled properly, I think formic can be just as effective as Apigaurd.
I have purchased 95% formic acid and I'll be using the "always" (pads for women) to inject 35 ml in it.
@@namentatic4978 I used the pads that go in the bottom of meat packages with 30ml making sure the temperature would not exceed the recommended 29 degree celius theshold. They seem to work very well and very inexpensive. The bees will propolis them down too... much like they did to Bob's Gell pads. I have never used Apiguard before, so very curious of the results.
@@naturessweetbees3033 , use a sandwich zip lock bag, and put inside mason jar's lid. Cut its shape in the middle on just one side of sandwich bag and take that lid off. Put that pad in it. Put it in your hive with opened side up, and inject the formic acid in pad. Keep injecting every seven days, four times. You will not have problem removing it later.
I presume this 3kg tub is the same as the small 50g trays made by Vita. I have alway stuck to the "no feed" while applying, You havbe good success rate while feeding?. Its always an issue for me as everything end of summer is done at the same time, remove honey, feed, treat, but it can take six weeks to treat. I maybe just try feed while treat and see results.
I've never noticed an issue with feeding at the same time. Like you, we have a short time to get everything done.
Bob, for a double deep hive where the top deep is mostly honey should apiguard be placed in between the two deeps? Or is placing it on top of both deeps still effective? Thanks in advance!
Studies have shown it to be more affective when placed on top with a rim.
Where do you get Apiguard in the tub I have only seen it in tin of 10 per pack
We purchase it from Dadant. Apiguard, www.dadant.com/catalog/m01481...
Bob, I've got nothing against alcohol washes but I've never tried one, because I hate "wasting" bees and I hate that I might kill a queen. I've been using sugar rolls, trying to do it the same way every time so it's consistent enough to compare. What do YOU think of sugar rolls?
Research shows that the shaking kills the bees after a couple of days. Also, if you buy the powdered sugar from the store instead of making your own, it will likely have corn starch in it and that will kill the bees too. If you can do it without shaking the bees with homemade powdered sugar, it should work to see if you have mites or not. There’s also CO2, but again- don’t shake the bees hard!
Hello Bob I have question about how much you will put in to nucs like 5/6 frames how many ml or gram you will apply ???
We're putting 15 as long as temps are too high.
can you feed while using Thymol? great video!!
I have without trouble. Thanks.
@@bobbinnie9872 thanks Bob
Quick question - on treating Apiguard with double deep
You apply on pad on top of frames in bottom deep?
@@texasfriendlybeekeepers8210 We put it on a pad over the top deep with a rim. It's shown in our video "Using Apiguard for Varroa Mite Treatment" th-cam.com/video/zxZ76ZboXFI/w-d-xo.html
It was so satisfying to see the speed and efficiency at which you three worked to treat and feed so many hives! Thanks for this video.
Welcome, sir! I would be interested to know what is in EASYCHECK. What is the recept.
I do not speak English. you may not have understood in the video.
The EasyCheck has three parts. #1, The bottom bowl, #2, the top lid and #3, the inside bowl with holes which holds the bees being shaken. We fill the bottom with enough alcohol to be slightly over the bottom of the inner bowl.
@@bobbinnie9872 How many serious alcohol? Is it pure alcohol? Is it true that you need winter windshield washer fluid?
@@slyguy1511 We use both 91% and 70% rubbing alcohol. I have not tried windshield washer fluid.
Hi Bob, I noticed you were putting your treatment on the second brood box. I’m assuming you were targeting the brood? I know the bees will remove all of the treatment. So if your hive has brood in both boxes will the bottom brood box receive enough treatment to kill the mites?
Thanks Moe
Research has shown it works best when applied on top with a rim so I go with that unless the colony is only residing in the bottom box. Then I would probably put it in the middle.
@@bobbinnie9872 Thanks Bob!! Have a great week!!
Hello sir
Hello.
Your yards must over lap with others .. north we do early spring apivar treatment I won't even see mite till aug can pretty much get away waiting on fall using oav once they go brood less . I'm at 1/4% average right now
Yes, there are other bees in our area. But what probably has just as much affect is our longer brood rearing period.
True y'all never are truly brood less for long. I think colony's are more likely to collapse in the north from viruses the mites spread .. they are sick normally in October you'll know it bees fly off leave small doomed cluster . Bee keepers will blame it on moisture and number of things seeing there's still small doomed cluster around into Jan .. going to be interesting see what kinda kill you get with apiguard
@@hootervillehoneybees8664 We'll have a follow up report soon.
Could you share your abscond rate?
None that I know of in this season.
@bobbinnie9872 I may need some tutoring. We have had 3 percent, half dose , at 90 degree average temp. Lol
Our average temp has been a few degrees lower than your's. That small amount could make a difference.@@justinfitzer6846
What would be the amount you suggest for a five frame nic
Possibly 15 grams. I would experiment a little before giving it to a lot of them.
bob what mite count are you comfortable with at this time of year that you wouldn't do a third round
Two would be the max knowing that we will be doing oxalic vaporization in winter. If we were not doing that I would want to see no more than one.
If you don't mind I'd like your opinion on this. When I mite wash if possible I sample frames that have high numbers of newly emerged bees and bees actively emerging. My thoughts are that it the best way to sample the level of mites in the brood vs on the bees. Curious if you've conpared that method vs open brood?
I've have not done a good test on this. I've heard it from researchers I know and trust.
@@bobbinnie9872 understood, thank you.
Что это за пена?
Это гель с тимолом под названием Апигуард.
I want to move in this direction but I’m nervous doing it in the Mississippi heat…
Experiment with half doses.
@@bobbinnie9872 just started trying 3 G doses. If the 2nd deep isn’t drawn out, would it be better to place the dose over the 1st? Between the boxes.
@@burleybeeyard If the second box isn't drawn I would probably put it in the middle. Part of the way it works involves the bees touching it and trying to remove it. If the top box doesn't have any bees in it this wouldn't happen.
Thanks Bob. You’ve been an enormous help to my small operation.
I am thinking a dosing gun might save some time and effort!
Probably worth looking into.
@@bobbinnie9872 Told the hubby to look at work cuz they were throwing new ones out. If he has any I will send a couple to you. Least I can do for all you have taught me.
@@dianetaylor6751 Thank you.