I just bought a Insta360 One X2 and have been binge watching all your videos for days now! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise. Helped me immensely!
Thank you very much Keith! Binge watching is the single most helpful thing for 360rumors to grow 😀. Meanwhile, i will have a new video on march 9 - stay tuned!!
i woke up this morning and thought "i'm going to shoot eye level 360 today, that should be perfect" ... then i found your video for the 2nd or 3rd time and watched. this is a great tutorial , with a A LOT OF WORK put into it. 1st shot, showing 360 cam and u, 2nd show with VR and 360 footage and you , 3rd etc... man that is a LOT of work and editing to make it come together for this youtube vid. great job, and i really appreciate how much effort and TIME it takes to make multiple shots, with multiple angles, work. thanks !
Could this new approach to 360 camera composition be better than one of the most commonly used 360 camera techniques -- shooting at eye level? Let me know what YOU think!
Wouldn't call this new, but you explained it nice. Another way to think is to place the camera in the middle of what you want to be in focus. I think you would get roughly the same heights on the camera.
@@JohanLundberg thanks Johan. The tricky part is deciding what to focus on. If we want the head to be emphasized how do we determine what we should want to focus on? It is tricky because there is no one right answer - it depends on the distance.
@@360vroomers True. But then you can also get into all the portrait prefrences and how we normaly potraits persons with different features and how that translates into 360 ;) It's like they always say, first know the rules and then break them. This video shows a good rule to follow. And then break.
You start out viewing in VR saying not to shoot too high or low. Then you switch to reframing. If shooting for VR viewing do the same distance/height rules apply?
Hi Doug. That is exactly right. The eye level rule works when the photo or video will be viewed in a VR headset. (DO use eye level rule if shooting for VR viewing) But when the photo or video is viewed in a phone or laptop, then the eye level rule resulrs in a shot that is too high, so instead we use the rule of thirds for 360.
Thanks Rick! I like the frankenquest. I find it a little more comfortable than the Elite Strap with Battery. Here's my review: 360rumors.com/frankenquest-faq/
@@360vroomers Hi... Sorry. I meant not a review on the headset, but how did you transfer the 360 image to the Quest? I briefly saw the app you launched. Can you describe your workflow of getting the 360 image into the Quest? Thanks, Rick
Thanks Sharon!! If you liked this video, you might also like this other video which discusses both theory and technique! th-cam.com/video/BY4lfT83lJA/w-d-xo.html
I love the topic. It is definitely smth I've struggled with. Thanks for this experiment. But I think it looks the best when shot eye level but on the reframing step the software should allow us to crop differently to remove more of the top portion. Current apps don't allow this. I've seen a pro editor from GoPro showed possibly custom software where he said he asked GoPro people to create a feature in a plugin for Adobe Premiere to allow this kind of crop. I don't think it exists in official plugin version though. So your idea is a great alternative composition wise, but I don't think that it looks too good because it is like you're looking down at the camera from the top. Just my opinion. Love your work. Cheers!
Thanks Roy! I appreciate the feedback! If you like this discussion with theory and practical application, you might be interested in my tutorial for the insta360 app, which talks about the underlying principles for several of the features th-cam.com/video/ArUACiypRgg/w-d-xo.html
Hi sandi. When you say "set instantly," do you mean stitched in-camera? If that is what you mean, then any Ricoh Theta camera can stitch 360 photos instantly. For tight budget, the best one in my opinion is Xiaomi Mi Sphere. But it does not stitch photos in-camera. You have to stitch them using Mi Sphere Camera app for phone or desktop.
Hi Vasyliy. There is no way to transfer a photo to quest 2 directly without a pc. But from your phone, you can upload your photo to a website that has support for VR viewing such as Kuula. Then you can view on quest.
Oh i think i get it now. You think this is about just the rule of thirds. Actually this is about how to use rule of thirds for equirectangular 360 photos and videos, which is a new technique. There isnt any other tutorial on this subject to my knowledge.
@@360vroomers well I'm waiting for my insta 3601X2 so are you find your page very interesting the moment it arrives I start working with it I learned so much from you thanks
@@360vroomers ok sounds good what about movies? I'm having to open the films and pics in the phone and save them Tobit it then drop into the folders on the quest2 and view them through the TV section on quest 2 do you know a better way? Cheers
Very helpful tips!!! Can I ask you something?? Before 3 days bought my first 360 canera insta360 one x2. My footage is 5.7K 30fps Sd card: SanDisk 64gb A2 Class 10 160mb/sec read 60 mb/sec write My smartphone is Galaxy Note 9 I have issues with the footage download time, generating time and export time. It takes too long. For example, for a video durationof 02:37 it takes about 7-8 minutes for downloading, 5-6 minutes for generating and almost 5-6 for export. It takes almost the same time for these process when I'm using my iPad pro 2020 256gb Is this normal?? Am I doing something wrong? Thank you in advance
Thanks Iain. Great question. Yes field of view is another factor. As you know a 360 photo or video has an extremely wide range of possible FOVs. Some of those could put the head into or out of the rule of thirds. Having said that, the guidelines I provided here are based on the default FOV levels, which are remarkably similar across different software (e.g. Insta360 Studio, GoPro VR Player, PTGui viewer, etc.). At the default FOV levels, the head will be at the upper line of the Rule of 3rds. Try it and see :D
If you want a person to look natural, then their head should be the same distance above the camera as their feet are below it. Too high and you get big head / little feet, too low and you get big feet / little head. If you are only shooting your torso (camera closer), then the same rule applies, the camera should be the mid point of what's in frame to look natural.
Thanks Carlos! It's a lot of work so I really appreciate it that you took time to let me know that it is helpful 😀 More videos coming - stay tuned. And if there are certain topics you want to see more of, let me know!
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Love this. So simple, but makes total sense
Thanks DoctorMike! :D
I just bought a Insta360 One X2 and have been binge watching all your videos for days now!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise. Helped me immensely!
Thank you very much Keith! Binge watching is the single most helpful thing for 360rumors to grow 😀. Meanwhile, i will have a new video on march 9 - stay tuned!!
i woke up this morning and thought "i'm going to shoot eye level 360 today, that should be perfect" ... then i found your video for the 2nd or 3rd time and watched. this is a great tutorial , with a A LOT OF WORK put into it. 1st shot, showing 360 cam and u, 2nd show with VR and 360 footage and you , 3rd etc... man that is a LOT of work and editing to make it come together for this youtube vid. great job, and i really appreciate how much effort and TIME it takes to make multiple shots, with multiple angles, work. thanks !
Thanks Kyle! I hope more people learn this “secret” 😄
Could this new approach to 360 camera composition be better than one of the most commonly used 360 camera techniques -- shooting at eye level? Let me know what YOU think!
Wouldn't call this new, but you explained it nice. Another way to think is to place the camera in the middle of what you want to be in focus. I think you would get roughly the same heights on the camera.
@@JohanLundberg thanks Johan. The tricky part is deciding what to focus on. If we want the head to be emphasized how do we determine what we should want to focus on? It is tricky because there is no one right answer - it depends on the distance.
@@360vroomers True. But then you can also get into all the portrait prefrences and how we normaly potraits persons with different features and how that translates into 360 ;) It's like they always say, first know the rules and then break them. This video shows a good rule to follow. And then break.
Looking forward to that Virtual Tour tutorial. Thanks
@@JohanLundberg yes true perspective distortion is another factor to consider 😀
I can't wait for the DSLR video you talked about at the end. You have no clue how much I need that video. keep up the good work. i love your channel.
Thanks buddy! Working on it!!
Good news: the dslr tutorial is here! th-cam.com/video/3hP_8eZTGiw/w-d-xo.html
Came here after I saw your posts on the FB groups! 😍 Not sure why my notification isn't working here on YT, I put this channel with the bell on. 😕
-MJ
Thanks DMJ! I really appreciate it! I don't know why, but sometimes TH-cam doesn't notify unless you click on your subscriptions.
You are very passionate about 360 and it shows.
Thanks j5! Guilty as charged haha 😜
I've gotten a lot of really great advice from this channel, so yeah!
@@endlessoul thanks buddy! 😁
As always Mike, very pertinent and in point. Thanks for your videos. Any news about the Qoocam ?
Thanks salvita64! Re Qoocam, I haven't heard anything new. I do plan to create a review video for it.
As always, I learn so much from you! Thanks for all the videos
Thanks Athan Datu!!! I really appreciate it!
Thanks for all your knoledge!!! Always alert for all the info you give to us! Congrats from Spain Master!
Huge fan here!
Muchas gracias Santii! I have many more videos planned - stay tuned!
You start out viewing in VR saying not to shoot too high or low. Then you switch to reframing. If shooting for VR viewing do the same distance/height rules apply?
Hi Doug. That is exactly right. The eye level rule works when the photo or video will be viewed in a VR headset. (DO use eye level rule if shooting for VR viewing) But when the photo or video is viewed in a phone or laptop, then the eye level rule resulrs in a shot that is too high, so instead we use the rule of thirds for 360.
Love your videos.. I have the same frankenquest as well. Can you show how did you review it on the Quest?
Thanks Rick! I like the frankenquest. I find it a little more comfortable than the Elite Strap with Battery. Here's my review: 360rumors.com/frankenquest-faq/
@@360vroomers Hi... Sorry. I meant not a review on the headset, but how did you transfer the 360 image to the Quest? I briefly saw the app you launched. Can you describe your workflow of getting the 360 image into the Quest? Thanks, Rick
Amazing explanation about the rule. 🤩🤩🤩 .
Thanks Sharon!! If you liked this video, you might also like this other video which discusses both theory and technique! th-cam.com/video/BY4lfT83lJA/w-d-xo.html
This is a great overview. Thanks.
Thanks Terry! If you like this combination of theory and technique, you might like this video: th-cam.com/video/BY4lfT83lJA/w-d-xo.html
I love the topic. It is definitely smth I've struggled with. Thanks for this experiment. But I think it looks the best when shot eye level but on the reframing step the software should allow us to crop differently to remove more of the top portion. Current apps don't allow this. I've seen a pro editor from GoPro showed possibly custom software where he said he asked GoPro people to create a feature in a plugin for Adobe Premiere to allow this kind of crop. I don't think it exists in official plugin version though. So your idea is a great alternative composition wise, but I don't think that it looks too good because it is like you're looking down at the camera from the top. Just my opinion. Love your work. Cheers!
Thanks for trying it out! Yes it would be good to have freedom to crop the video however we wish in the app.
Great content and presentation, thank you.
Thanks Roy! I appreciate the feedback! If you like this discussion with theory and practical application, you might be interested in my tutorial for the insta360 app, which talks about the underlying principles for several of the features th-cam.com/video/ArUACiypRgg/w-d-xo.html
How to transfer images to be set instantly. And which be set best on tight budgets?
Hi sandi. When you say "set instantly," do you mean stitched in-camera? If that is what you mean, then any Ricoh Theta camera can stitch 360 photos instantly. For tight budget, the best one in my opinion is Xiaomi Mi Sphere. But it does not stitch photos in-camera. You have to stitch them using Mi Sphere Camera app for phone or desktop.
Bonjour, merci pour cet excellent travail, tres intéressant
Merci beaucoup mon ami!
Thank u so much for all your videos.
Thanks Stas! There are many hidden gems, even some videos that most people didnt know about 😅
Also, can you include a complete equipment list in your descriptions?
Thanks Nic. I've now added the gear in the description.
@@360vroomers thank you! Love your videos, keep up the great work!
@@savageclassics Thanks buddy! I have more videos in the pipeline - stay tuned!
Please tell us, how you import fotos without PC for viewing it in a quest 2? I did not found working app insta360 vr for quest.
Hi Vasyliy. There is no way to transfer a photo to quest 2 directly without a pc. But from your phone, you can upload your photo to a website that has support for VR viewing such as Kuula. Then you can view on quest.
Selfie sticks are available right? Why converting 360 photo to normal photo?
Hi Mohan. This rule applies whether you use selfie sticks or a stand or anything else. Try it and see! 😀
What if you keep the camera vertical at the various distances?
Hi Mac great question! yes the Rule of Thirds for 360 will still work. Try it! :D
Hi, how do you put the photos on the quest 2? Thanks
Hi anthony. There are several ways. It can be put in your quest or in your pc or on the web. I will post a tutorial asap
I can't believe you made a 10 min video on the simplest and sensical subject! Lol more power to you!
Thanks Carlos. It seemed to be helpful to many people, and people watched a large portion of it. So i'm glad about that.
Oh i think i get it now. You think this is about just the rule of thirds. Actually this is about how to use rule of thirds for equirectangular 360 photos and videos, which is a new technique. There isnt any other tutorial on this subject to my knowledge.
Unbelievable information on your TH-cam channel keep on going I learned so much.
Thank you very much Jantje! What do you usually shoot with? I try to put in depth analysis in all my reviews and tutorials 😀
@@360vroomers well I'm waiting for my insta 3601X2 so are you find your page very interesting the moment it arrives I start working with it I learned so much from you thanks
Good tips. Thank you
Thanks Jorge! Glad you liked it!
It is very nice experience) and very useful information) i just wondering what about and you just made it , Thanks Mic)
Thank you very much Andreev! I hope this technique will be useful to you :D
So what app are you using to view the 360 content in the quest?
For 360 photos i use pigasus.
@@360vroomers ok sounds good what about movies? I'm having to open the films and pics in the phone and save them Tobit it then drop into the folders on the quest2 and view them through the TV section on quest 2 do you know a better way? Cheers
@@quackmeat1969 i will create a tutorial - stay tuned!
good info
thanks
Thanks Nurse Normadic!
Sounds good thank you ☺️
Thanks! My next video will have a lot of useful tips. You won't want to miss it!
Very helpful tips!!!
Can I ask you something??
Before 3 days bought my first 360 canera insta360 one x2.
My footage is 5.7K 30fps
Sd card: SanDisk 64gb A2 Class 10
160mb/sec read
60 mb/sec write
My smartphone is Galaxy Note 9
I have issues with the footage download time, generating time and export time.
It takes too long. For example, for a video durationof 02:37 it takes about 7-8 minutes for downloading, 5-6 minutes for generating and almost 5-6 for export.
It takes almost the same time for these process when I'm using my iPad pro 2020 256gb
Is this normal?? Am I doing something wrong?
Thank you in advance
Hey there Giannis! Thanks for watching the video! I'm glad you found it helpful. Sure, what do you need to know?
Regarding the speed, I found my iPhone SE 2020 can stitch Insta360 much, much faster than my Samsung S10+. I haven't tested download speed yet.
@@360vroomers thank you so much for your help, your quick replying and your time!!🙏
Your analyzes are precious👍
Thank you very much Sabri! 😀 Takes one to know one! :D
Very good tutorial.
Thank you my friend! Glad you found it useful. 😀
Well i actually used this ‚technique’ in most of my 360 videos. Not knowing this rule but knowing my selfie stick is not long enough for eye level😂
🤣 lol hurrah for short selfie sticks!
Good points !
Thanks 360 Wonders! Stay tuned for more techniques!
I just have watched one utubers video. He saied may be this year can be released gopro max2. It is true?
Hi Minhai. I haven't heard anything about a gopro max 2 other than speculation.
@@360vroomers i hope this year realese new gopromax haha
@@minhaijin5314 It's possible. Let's wait and see.
Great job breaking the rules!
Thanks BoSS! Let me know if it works for you! :D
Great Content.
Username checks out 😁 haha
good stuff! Thanks!
Thanks f1pitpass! :D I hope you find it useful!
@@360vroomers love the tech theory behind the shots!
@@f1pitpass not everyone can appreciate those things ... only the smart ones! 😁😁😁
@@360vroomers hahaha th-cam.com/video/arhFzGHcTXM/w-d-xo.html i'm old school!
Btw. Love all your excellent videos. Gracie
Thank you for your kind words and encouragement! Have a happy new year!
@@360vroomers I will put your ideas into practice soon, still waiting for my 360 unit to come in
Ya got a sub from me. Great job!
Thanks buddy! I have many more videos in the pipeline ... stay tuned!
What VR headset is that?
Hi Nic. That was an Oculus Quest 2 with HTC Vive Deluxe Audio Strap (Frankenquest) More info here: 360rumors.com/frankenquest-faq/
What about field of view? If you zoom in on your face in the belly-button level shot, it'll be looking up your nose.
Thanks Iain. Great question. Yes field of view is another factor. As you know a 360 photo or video has an extremely wide range of possible FOVs. Some of those could put the head into or out of the rule of thirds. Having said that, the guidelines I provided here are based on the default FOV levels, which are remarkably similar across different software (e.g. Insta360 Studio, GoPro VR Player, PTGui viewer, etc.). At the default FOV levels, the head will be at the upper line of the Rule of 3rds. Try it and see :D
VERY interesting!
Thanks Jay! I'm glad you found it thought-provoking! :D
I'm glad you took the time and effort to test it out, it really made me rethink some things.
If you want a person to look natural, then their head should be the same distance above the camera as their feet are below it.
Too high and you get big head / little feet, too low and you get big feet / little head.
If you are only shooting your torso (camera closer), then the same rule applies, the camera should be the mid point of what's in frame to look natural.
Yes brilliant way of putting it!
Buddy...your belly keeps getting bigger with each video update. 😂
Guilty as charged! 😂 I did go on a low carb diet and lost 10 lbs.
@@360vroomers good on you. Look after yourself.
Kissing level is super uncomfortable
Yes that distance is more for comic effect like you want exaggerated facial features.
Dude, I have to say, you're so awesome and provide such fantastic tips & knowledge! I greatly do appreciate all of your help! Thank you so much!! 👏
Thanks Carlos! It's a lot of work so I really appreciate it that you took time to let me know that it is helpful 😀 More videos coming - stay tuned. And if there are certain topics you want to see more of, let me know!