_the inability to believe insane claims without evidence_ Try this for an insane claim: the Universe and everything in it comes from nothing and nowhere for no reason at all. This is a bigger miracle than any in the Bible. Of course, there's no evidence for that.
I had a genuine supernatural born-again experience with Christ in 1981 when I was 21 years old. It was beyond earth-shattering. If you've never met the Person of Jesus Christ up close and personal, you have no clue and are unqualified to comment. Anything ever written about Jesus even in Scripture is understated and you'll never know the truth until you give Him a FAIR CHANCE with you. Jesus Christ is the Eternal God and as such will judge all of us. Be advised and come to Christ while you still can and it's not too late, because it's not. Come to Christ and LIVE FOREVER IN HEAVEN.
@@johnpetruzzi9357Hi John. Bret is merely reflecting what many (atheistic) academics espouse (nowadays). It’s not a universal position, but it appears to be somewhat pervasive. (See, for example, Sapolsky’s book, Determined.) Free will and consciousness present difficult issues concerning ‘free choice’ for modern science (and atheism, for that matter), especially if one believes the universe is deterministic. [Quantum wave collapse indeterminacy does not alleviate the problems. Nor does mathematical chaos.] The existence of personal responsibility is apparently undermined by various versions of these modern forms of scientific determinism. [Many academics seem to be appalled by the consequence involved. Their usual reactions are similar to your own: reflexive rejection. [I offer no opinion on the matter, herein.]]
@SystemsMedicine Your god doesn't solve the free will issue either. If your god is all knowing and omnipotent, humans have no free will. Because she created every human knowing every choice they will do before birth.
But yet Christianity argues for many of our laws like rape and murder being wrong, and encourages truth. Deuteronomy 22:5 says men shouldn’t wear women’s clothes, and look what’s happening with transgender activism these days, they’re coming after our kids trying to indoctrinate them, taking them away from their parents against there wishes.
@Scorned405 yes it's wild when sane people realize random swirling molecules could not mindlessly swirl together thousands of specified functioning protien machines then mindlessly inject themselves with coded information to facilitate coordination of all these machines to effect a singular goal aka self replicating life!! Its,wild they cant dimly believe such mind blowing engineering could mindlessly flop itself into am,engineering marvel which by comparison renders a space shuttle a mere child's toy Crazy right!
Thanks for the enjoyable Bible commentary lol all so true. I was raised Catholic, though I never believed it, so I've always been an atheist. Suffered through Catholic school and pretending to believe, in those days you couldn't be an open atheist....glad times have changed.
Me too! And when I would ask intelligent questions about god and the church's teachings that no one could actually answer, I was told "it's not our place to question god". That always let me know that they don't know the answer. I'd ask logical questions about so many bible stories that made zero sense in terms of what god was supposed to be, and would get "oh come on". As I get older, it kinda irritates me that people still believe in that junk.
She's from my home town. Could not be more proud. And also, I get it. Growing up and learning that they sugar coated the bible for children cause the truth is so disgusting.
I had a friend who was raised going to Bible study, had 100% religious schooling, etc. Sometimes I'd mention something that was in the Bible, and she'd say, "Really?!" and we'd look it up. Turns out, Bible study very carefully steers believers toward only certain stories and neglects all the inconvenient ones, and even the inconvenient details in familiar ones. (Julia touches on some of these, for example, in the Ten Commandments. They aren't actually numbered in the text, btw, so you can parse them how you like, which is why Catholics have a different numbering system than the rest of Christianity, and Jews have a different version than either, and it turns out the last bit in the commandments is the one Julia mentioned about how you shouldn't cook a baby goat in its mother's milk. There are plenty weird rules elsewhere, like a whole steaming pile in Leviticus. My favorite is the prohibition against Xmas trees in Jeremiah 10:2-4.) Here's a fun one too: Ask a fundamentalist if they believe the Bible is literally true. Every last word? They'll tell you yes. Which version, you ask. They usually go for the King James version. So you believe in unicorns?! Act shocked and appalled. They won't know what to say. The King James version mentions unicorns multiple times (Numbers 23:22 and 24:8, Deuteronomy 33:17, Job 39:9 and 39:10, Psalms 22:21, 29:6, and 92:10, and Isaiah 34:7). Obviously, these are errors translation, which destroys their claim of literal interpretation. Next ask them if they believe in dragons. Because there are plenty dragons in the Bible too, and those are even more ridiculous (Not just Revelations, although there are plenty there. There's the whole bit with Leviathan in Job 41:1-34 if you're into sea serpents). So, yeah, looking more deeply into religion will drive you to atheism in short order. Notice how religious moderates will run toward secular subject when they get cornered by people more religious than they are. Religious people can't handle a close look at what they claim they believe.
Articulate points to be certain...... But, they only serve to support true biblical principles such as yes Dragons (Dinosaurs) did walk among us at one time! Christmas trees (pagan customs) have no place in the church! And as far as mosaic law is concerned, we are no longer under those guidelines as Christ Jesus has delivered us that we now have redemption through faith in and acceptance of the supreme sacrifice. The truths of the Bible are as apparent as anyone takes the time to understand and literally see with their own eyes. What a joyful future true believers have ahead of us!!! Praise be unto Jehovah God and thankfulness for His Son Jesus Christ the first born of all Creation:)
Reminds me of when my kids grandma got them a storybook bible for kids and I immediately flipped through it and asked her why they left out the part where lot gets shit faced and fucks his daughters two nights in a row. Someone else quickly changed the subject to avoid the moment
@@trishamay3380 Nonsense!! Then why have we found pliable tissue with blood vessels from Triceratops? Anyone who believes man can say what was going on millions of years ago are truly the gullible ones lol....
"this MYTH of Christ" Assuming your attribution is correct, then WHICH of the following was intended by his remark: "A myth is a traditional story that explains a cultural belief, practice, or natural phenomenon. Myths are often filled with gods, magical creatures, and mystery. Some myths may have factual origins, but others are completely fictional." Any ideas?
That's laughable, considering taking things out of context is the bread and butter of bad atheist takes. Christians shouldn't have to explain basic concepts to atheists and how to properly interpret things.
Yes, because some of us were conservative Evangelical Christian who went to Bible College and were in the ministry for many years. My life is so much better without all the brainwashing from Christianity.
If there were a kind and loving god who cared about humanity, he/she/it would not have subjected us to four more years of a Trump presidency. submitted on 11/08/2024
_he/she/it would not have subjected us to four more years of a Trump presidency. submitted on 11/08/2024_ Ah, the woke. Wokeness and atheism go together.
@@yungalucard9139 and in return he took the lives of innocent babies, women, young men and all elderly throughout the entire planet through a flood which he deemed 100% of the population was evil.. which he later regretted. Sounds divine alright.
@@racerx4152 ------You are so, so, ignorant. Now, do you freaking know what is going on in the world? Russia Atheist? The majority of the people of Russia Atheist? Don't you bloody know that Russia has a established religion? The Russian Orthodox Church, a Christian Church. As to China, China is not communist, China is ruled by the Communist Party of China, but this doesn't mean that China is communist or that all the more than a billion people of China are Atheist. Please, educate yourself.
"The Bible works when you don't think...at all!" So, let me get this right. You are accusing the (literally) hundreds of MILLIONS of people who have derived inspiration - in many different ways - from the Bible (you don't specify which parts) of being Non-Thinkers? I 'think' that any reasonable person would regard THAT statement as insufferably smug and ignorant as it's sweeping. By all means, challenge: intelligently. But please DON'T assume that YOU are somehow wiser than all those 'millions'! And I wonder if you'd make a _similar_ statement about those who have studied (eg) the writings of Plato, Spinoza, Marcus Aurelius, and Thomas Aquinas? But perhaps you haven't studied _their_ writngs and ideas in _quite_ the same depth as you (implicitly) have the 39 books of the OT and the 27 of the NT?
@marvinc9994 anyone can draw meaning from anything! Comics, movies, art, nature! Being inspirational, motivational, or life changing isn't unique to the Bible alone nor God! If you believe the Bible as the real words of God then you're not thinking rationally, you're believing blindly! Tolkien, Stan Lee, George Lucas all made things that did everything the Bible does and more but doesn't take itself as an imaginary sky wizard's rules to obey or means to control others! That's what I'm getting at there's nothing the Bible does that anything else can't do the same or better without God!
Carl Sagan and Julia Sweeny speak to me. It's so nice to go through life in awe of the miracle and enjoying each moment. The most violent text ever written is just not something I would want any child to ever read or have read to them.
Funny we both rely on "Faith". I believe in a God which is the "Logos" or in one definition the mind that thought into being all created things including energy and the smallest particles that your theories are derived. You have Faith in unprovable pie in the sky theories that will probably change over time or be discarded in the future. Humans have always believed in a god of some sort. Our common human nature dictates this reality. Dawkins and friends simply explain this reality as due to human ignorance of the past. We "enlightened beings" are far too sophisticated for this "silly belief". Yet none of these theories explain "Love". None of these theories can explain consciousness even though they claim otherwise. Converting the immaterial into the material is a nonsense. You have a choice. Have faith in a theory like quantum fluctuations or a "Loving God, the Logos or Mind that thought all our reality into existence and provides hope of a life after our death on this planet. I realize the impossibility of either in human reason but humanity requires hope and love which, if were true quantum fluctuations theory can only provide death and chaos on earth due to the problem you are left with which is there is no objective reality and leaves science and reason and truth to be decided by the mob. Morality then is decided by the most powerful and not by an objective loving God. No my friend I cannot agree with your very well argued case, even as compelling as it is. "We don’t yet know the source of consciousness in mammals, but that doesn’t justify defaulting to “godunit” as an explanation. That is argumentum ad ignorantiam." Well the human condition limits our reason and therefore like it or not we all live in ignorance. To pretend that the so called enlightened people do not is simply funny. Regards
"The most violent text ever written" WHICH part of the new Testament are you referring to? And - have you EVER read the Koran and the Hadith? If you find what Jesus preached as 'violent' as that which Mohammad did, I'd LOVE to know why! If, however, you're simply a slave to the Fashionable Opinions of the Moment, then you won't be able to supply me with an answer, and so probably won't even bother!
She makes a good point about Exodus. The Israelis controlled the Sanai for almost two generations and sent thousands of archeologists to many of the places discussed in the text, but they couldn't find any archeological evidence to support what it says.
During the time period ascribed to the Exodus, (Circa 1250 BCE) the entire region of the Levant, Sinai, Judea, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and parts of Anatolia were literally INSIDE THE EGYPTIAN EMPIRE! The border of Egypt extended all the way up the Mediterranean coast to the Empire of the Hittites, the Akkadians and the Assyrians. Aside from that, the Egyptians kept copious records of ALL their possessions, wars, major events, either on papyri or carved in stone! If an entire army had been swallowed in the Red Sea pursuing several million runaway Hebrew slaves, it most certainly would have been carved into a monument! There is not a single credible mention of Jewish/Hebrew slaves residing in and fleeing from Egypt in the Egyptian records. And no mention of any Ten Plagues either. P.S., I stand corrected on the dates of the alleged Exodus. It supposedly took place
I don't know how they get past the fact Moses never existed. How can a guy that never existed write Genesis? How can he lead thousands of Hebrew slaves out of Egypt, when they were never there in the first place? It is Genesis that claims the Babble is true, and it is nothing but fiction from that sentence onward.
@@johnrockyryan There's no question of "if" when it comes to authenticity. The Bible is LITERATURE, especially the first five books! It is written in narrative form; it is packed with literary devices right down to the names. Abraham, means, "father of nations;" Moses means, "saved from water;" Jesua (Jesus) means "to rescue." (Saviour) As to the Old Testament, much of it is stolen outright from other cultures. Yahweh/Elohim is a SUMERIAN storm god, so they even coopted their god! Yahweh didn't choose the Jews; THEY chose him!
@@trdtommy Can you bring me the verse that says kill the one who stops believing because I don’t remember any verse like that it’s been a long time since I read the Quran and the Bible as for cutting off the hand this is not in the Quran but in other Muslim books like the Hadith which is something about the sayings of Muhammad but according to what the scholars have agreed upon yes the hand of the thief is cut off unless the one he stole from forgives him or that thief needed to steal in order to live
@@trdtommy But in general, I agree with you. There are illogical things in Islam, but these things are not in the Qur’an actually. Rather, they are found in other Muslim books, such as the hadiths, which, by the way, I have not read yet.
@@Mmorikoy 9:12 in the quran. But i dont rally care that much about those things. I care if what i know about the world to be true. Since noone ever proved the existance of any god(includes all the gods before abramic religions that also is what the abramic religions has copied a lot from) ever.
I was invited to join a Lutheran Bible studies group that I attended once. When I called the Pastor to inquire when the next meeting was, he told me that the group had disbanded.
"You can't understand the Bible if you don't believe in god." That's pretty much a closed system. I was raised Christian and rejected it at 10 yrs old. God sees, knows everything you do, that's worst than Santa. Jeannine
"rejected it at 10 yrs old" Yes, 10-year-olds are famous for their spiritual insights and deep wisdom - in much the same way that Greta Thunberg (herself, blessed with a permanent pre-pubescent mentality) is famous for _her_ lucid thoughts on the staggeringly complex science of Atmospheric Physics. You two would get on rather well, I think!
I always wonder who decided that parts of the bible are not to be taken literally. Grew up as a Jehovah's Witness and that cherry picking thing always got to me. I was 24 when I gave birth to my first child prematurely and needed a blood transfusion to survive. My son was tiny, but okay. My father had a total fit when my husband signed the paperwork for the transfusion. I started reading anything i could lay my hand on in favor of or against religion, the bible and the god of the bible. I stopped going to meetings as my actions were considered awful, I was disfellowshipped in abstentia after I refused to attend a hearing and openly said I did not believe that a loving god would allow a mother to die and leave a child who needed her behind. I declared that I was Atheist from that day on. I am now 72 and still an Atheist.
Friends ask me, "why I gave up Christianity and became an atheist?" They often as, "did you have a bad experience in the church?" I say, "no, I actually enjoyed the social structure and friendship made in church." I especial enjoyed youth group. So, I tell people my experience in church was mostly positive, but that doesn't make it true just because I had fun in youth group.
@@Lordidude ...It's funny that you think Christians are the ones that need to be freed, when you're the ones that need to be freed. The lady in this video has no clue what she's talking about other than telling half truths out of context mixed in with jokes. I am a Christian. So ask me what you want to know.
@cypriantertullian7495 Thanks for opening up for questions. I have one question: Do you believe in gods from other religions (Vishnu, Quetzacoatl, Zeus, Ares, Mars etc.)? Why or why not?
Never heard of this woman before! Thank you for bringing her to my attention! Me and my brother spent hours making fun of the bible when we were kids. We still do. Fun to see she has the same sense of humor.
Yes, omniscience poses a batch of problems, the god of the bible not only tested people, which certainly should have had foreknowledge that people would sin, but also tested himself when Jesus went into the wilderness for 40 days. Nor would an all knowing being regret anything, like he did after flooding earth.
Because he gives us the free will to make choices. Every choice has a positive and negative outcome, life is hard so we can learn from our mistakes and grow through experience.
@@yungalucard9139 we can do that without reference to any god. You have, as most theists do, wilfully missed the point. Take the log out of your own eye and think for a moment about the implications of the god you believe in: a perfect, all knowing, all powerful, all loving god. One that apparently either didn't anticipate that putting the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden of Eden wasn't a good idea and that things wouldn't end well for the humans he'd created, or did know but went ahead with it anyway, because reasons. Please explain to me how suffering in the world that has nothing to do with the exercise of free will is compatible with a tri-omni god? Why such a god, who, being all powerful, could end all suffering, and being all knowing could do it in a way that left free will intact, and being all loving wouldn't hesitate to do so, yet hasn't? And while you're at it, please also explain how a perfect being could have wants, needs or desires? How they could be raised to anger? Or regret?
Im responsible for my life I’m responsible for my failures I’m responsible for everything THATS MY FREEDOM OF BEING HUMAN. It’s difficult but it’s the truth.
Julia Sweeny was a key part of my deconversion. I discovered her show as I was going through similar things. She's not really popular among atheist, but she was well-timed for me. I'm grateful to her. If I ever got a chance to speak to her, I would tell her that her struggle made my struggle less.
I went from a devout fundamentalist believer to atheist after having put my fears aside and read the bible with an objective mindset. I am proud to say that I have been religion free and a proud atheist since 1994.
Bach was protestant. Nice music, but not much to do with Catholicism. I too was raised Catholic, am totally lapsed, and my experience of it left me, finally, uninterested in religion in general, and realizing that, hey, there's no such thing as a god.
Almost any topic can be better handled and even more thoughtfully explained through the use of humor. Brilliant job Julia and you weren't so bad on SNL either.😮
Yup, got the catholic indocrination but knew better than to inquire about why everyone else deserved eternal damnation for not being in our club. Took a bit of de-programming but after one bites the bullet and goes out into the wilderness it soon enough becomes beautiful, good knowing how to think rather than what to think.
She was on saturday night live for many years. She was really great on that show and very funny. She did some very funny scenes with Chris Farley and Phil Hartman. You need to check her out more.
9:57 _"before she comes back and he kills her by lighting her on fire"_ I'm not religious but I think a burnt offering was killed _before_ being lighted on fire! Little known fact: one of the reasons for a 'burnt offering' was because, according to the first testament, God _loves_ the smell of burning flesh - something you won't hear being preached in church!
Awesome and true. I gave up the God of the bible when I was 16 years old, 73 now. A cousin was killed by a train and like all Catholics I got down on my knees that night to say the Lord's prayer and ask God why he had to died. God never answered.
When you realize that Christianity is based on the idea of human sacrifice, you begin to see how insane it is. Plus, when someone promises to return and they haven’t returned in nearly 2,000 years, you have to eventually accept that they just aren’t coming back. 😂✌️🤷♀️
Why is that insane? I think most would agree the world would be a better place if everyone helped each other out. And what is that you might ask? Self-sacrifice 😉
The Beatles only became popular because teenage girls screamed over their sissy hairstyles . An 8 year flash in the pan group . In 1970 , when those teenage girls grew up , their music was out - dated and not in demand anymore and the group broke up .
I’m so tired of hearing christians use the excuse “we can’t understand God’s ways” to explain the horrific things in the bible, as well as the horrific things going on in the world.
@@yungalucard9139 No, we don't know if the universe had a beginning. We can look very far back in time, very close to the big bang, but not completely too it. We don't know what happened in those earliest moments, let alone that we know what was before that. We know nothing about that, and by nothing I mean nothing, no statements can be made about it, so also not the statement that the universe had a beginning. And for certain not that it was birthed and properties of that what birthed it, like space-less and timeless, because we know nothing about it. "Essentially a spiritual/supernatural power." now you are just blabbering on. Your first assumption is baseless, your second assumption is even more baseless and your third claim is outright blabbering nonsense.
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@@yungalucard9139 Most modern physicists think the universe did NOT have a beginning, so your assertion is groundless.
The very foundation of the church and every good thing that it does is the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. From those we derive our distinguishing marks - the love that we hold in common (John 13:35) and the doctrine that sets the guidelines for how we live, act, and worship (John 14:15). Atheist churches have no hope because they are missing these key elements. These principles don’t just affect atheist churches, though. Splits, division, and sharp disagreement occur in the church as well. Ephesians 4:1-3 reminds us that we must be diligent to preserve our peace and unity that come from the Spirit. As the church can become fractured into small cliques and sects when we look out for ourselves first or don’t show the love of Christ in all things, we have to be all the more diligent in this day and age to prove ourselves united in Him. The only way for humans to ever become truly unified in one mind and purpose is through the love of Jesus Christ. Is that love alive, working, and evident in your congregation? Your life? My life? I hope we’ll all take some time to think on these things.
@@theheavenless A blood cult that reveres human sacrifice too. The god of Abraham, evil trickster god that it was, didn't accept human sacrifice; but Jesus' god does.
I'd love to see a modern church run the animal sacrifice and priestly purification rituals as outlined in the bible. "You shall slaughter the ram and take some of its blood and put it on the lobe of Aaron’s right ear and on the lobes of his sons’ right ears and on the thumbs of their right hands and on the big toes of their right feet and sprinkle the rest of the blood around on the altar. Then you shall take some of the blood that is on the altar and some of the anointing oil and sprinkle it on Aaron and on his garments and on his sons and on his sons’ garments with him; so, he and his garments shall be consecrated, as well as his sons and his sons’ garments with him". Because nothing says a trustworthy priest like a guy with blood dripping from his ear, thumbs, and toes while his clothes are splashed with fresh blood and a further burning of entrails can begin.
I’ve always thought of how lovely it would be to have a long campfire chat with Julia Sweeney and Olivia Coleman. That sounds like about the best evening I can imagine.
@@Jay-o1s7p Often you will find there wasn't a final straw, there would be a first cause, something that made them want to study, something that didn't sit right (for me that was the claim of a global flood). Then once you delve into the topic you start finding many different areas of conflict (bible mistakes, the horror of the OT, problem of evil, suffering, divine hiddenness, instruction etc). By the end it is not a single thing that ends it but looking at the complete picture of all you have learned you realise you have no belief left.
*A universe from nothing* Thousands and thousands of times, creationists accuse physicists of *“Science claim that the universe came from nothing”* On one hand this is a very hypocritical claim, because we all know that their religion makes the exactly the same claim, but they give the job of creation to a god. On second hand, science attempts to answer the “accusation” with evidence and if that is unavailable, with some plausible hypothesis. The first issue is: “*What is nothing?* I am not sure that there is such a thing in the universe as a “nothing”. Even parts of what we once thought as empty is full of energy, waves and subatomic particles. As such, we are unable to do any tests on this hypothetical “nothing” and are unsure of what may “come” from it. The best we can do is to define (rather unsatisfactorily) as a nothing is an *absence of everything* If we assert that our current universe can actually can *come from nothing* what evidence and logical reasoning can we present to establish a plausibility? We know that the sum total of the energy in the universe is zero. Once we understand the laws of nature, the characteristics of a universe created from nothing would be precisely the characteristic of our universe. This of course is not a “proof” but it is highly plausible. We are at the beginning of the discovery only, and have not yet understood fully the details of quantum gravity. But we can work back (to the origin of the universe) to time = 0. In the journey backward, every step is plausible (some supported by testing) until we arrive at the last step of quantum gravity, which needs a theory. Quantum gravity, when combined with time fluctuates and provides for the creation of a universe. When space stretches it requires energy. Empty space includes energy (we call dark energy). As space expands, the energy remains the same (it sounds like you are getting something from nothing). In classical physics if we expand matter, the density of that matter decreases. But that is not the case with empty space, which if expanded will give the appearance of an energy increase which does not occurs -- the universe remains at the same energy level, concurrenty with an increase in size, which presents us with a paradox. This phenomenon appears to defy the laws of (classical) physics. It is also true that when you endow space with energy that space will have a negative pressure. This is one of the reasons why space expands exponentially. As the universe expands, it does work on “empty” space, and it dumps energy into the “empty” space. So it sounds absurd that the universe expands exponentially without decreasing in density, yet it satisfies all the laws of physics including the conservation of energy. We do not understand the source of that energy (although it is recognized by quantum mechanics). The expanding universe remains at zero energy level. All the energy of motion by the galaxies and its components is cancelled by the pull of gravity. However this observations can only be done if we assume a closed universe. Unfortunately the longer we wait the less we will see (assuming that we find no stronger and better instruments to measure, but probably this will not be the case). Because galaxies are moving away from us at a speed exceeding the speed of light, and as the consequence, the images of them will disappear in time.
Very well written. If I might make a suggestion. It might be good to explain that time is formally a dimension like the other three. So, when the Big Bang happened, and the three spatial dimensions started, so must have the time dimension. So no time before the Big Bang - at least in our Universe. Are there other universes? Perhaps and perhaps not. I do not know.
@@ianhurley7168 Thank you! Well, actually our universe is just the latest manifestation of the universe. Most of us scientist think that there were a series of universes, each formed, than collapsed back into the Singularity. A couple of years ago I sent a short article to Scientific American. You may enjoy it. It follows this comment.
@@ianhurley7168 *What was before the Big Bang?* Fairly recently science has defined the scientific theory known as the “Big Bang” the model for the formation of our universe. We understand that the existence of what we call the “Singularity” expanded to form our universe, which keeps expanding today at an accelerated rate. We base this scientific theory on measurable and testable evidence, which even creationists have a difficult time to dispute. OK then, but what was before the Singularity? or did the Singularity always exist? In here, creationists appear to have found a “got you” because science, which proposes hypothesis and theories based on evidence, appears to be clueless. But we are not so clueless as it appears at a cursory examination. For reference, I will use two science papers published both from Cornell university; (1) Xingang Chen, Mohammad Hossein Namjoo, Yi Wang “Quantum Primordial Standard Clocks” arxiv.org/abs/1509.03930 and (2) Xingang Chen, Abraham Loeb, Zhong-Zhi Xianyu “Unique Fingerprints of Alternatives to Inflation in the Primordial Power Spectrum” arxiv.org/abs/1809.02603 (sentences enclosed in quotes are taken from these papers). While the cosmic inflation or the Big Bang expansion is well known, other very different theories are also in play. “In some of these theories, the state of the universe preceding the Big Bang - the so-called primordial universe - was contracting instead of expanding, and the Big Bang was thus a part of a Big Bounce” (The Big Bounce is a cyclic or oscillatory model of the universe). “A team of scientists led by the CfA's Xingang Chen, along with Loeb, and Zhong-Zhi Xianyu of the Physics Department of Harvard University, have applied an idea they call a "primordial standard clock" to the non-inflationary theories.” This clock is any type of heavy elementary particle in the primordial universe. Such particles should exist in any theory and their positions should oscillate at some regular frequency, much like the ticking of a clock's pendulum. We can state with some confidence that the primordial universe was not entirely uniform. “There were tiny irregularities in density on minuscule scales that became the seeds of the large-scale structure observed in today's universe.” "If we imagine all of the information we learned so far about what happened before the Big Bang is in a roll of film frames, then the standard clock tells us how these frames should be played," Chen explained. "Without any clock information, we don't know if the film should be played forward or backward, fast or slow, just like we are not sure if the primordial universe was inflating or contracting, and how fast it did so. This is where the problem lies. The standard clock put time stamps on each of these frames when the film was shot before the Big Bang, and tells us how to play the film." The team calculated how these standard clock signals should look in non-inflationary theories, and suggested how they should be searched for in astrophysical observations. "If a pattern of signals representing a contracting universe were found, it would falsify the entire inflationary theory," Xianyu said. The success of this idea lies with experimentation. "These signals will be very subtle to detect," Chen said, "and so we may have to search in many different places. The cosmic microwave background radiation is one such place, and the distribution of galaxies is another. We have already started to search for these signals and there are some interesting candidates already, but we need more data." The importance of this research is as follows: We are beginning to move the clock backwards, prior to the 13.8 billion years of the Big Bang event. To be sure, these are the beginning, baby steps only with an immense amount of information yet to be uncovered. As Richard Feynman (theoretical physicist) said “The fun is finding things out”. It is highly likely that delving into the “mist” before the Big Bang, we will arrive in a construct where time and physical laws operate very differently from what we learned about our current universe. I will probably not be around when this “mist” will start to clear, but cannot help but wonder, what will the creationist excuse be then? or will creationism still exist?
_The bible is total bunk front to back and top to bottom._ A huge portion of the Bible has been archaeologically verified, and much of it relatively recently. King David's existence was only externally verified in the nineties, Pontius Pilate's in the sixties. Job 26:7 says: _God stretches the northern sky out over empty space and hangs the earth on nothing._ There's no land at the North Pole and Earth hangs in space. How did they know that thousands of years BC? An atheist wrote _The Genesis Enigma._ Maybe you should read that. Oh, right, you don't read.
Although that’s very true, indoctrination is an incredibly powerful tool, it’s hard to abandon a religion that you were raised in and that almost becomes an aspect of your personhood. And church leaders are very intentional about avoiding the ugly parts of the Bible, and for many people, their belief and study is what the pastor says on Sunday. Furthermore, people often have religious associations for the connection and community they receive as a result. It’s easy to call someone a fool for their belief, and it is foolish to believe, but there are so many factors that keep someone in religion beyond evidence and philosophy.
HER priest actually admitted to her that most, if not all, of the Old Testament was myth?? I didn't find that out until I was in my mid-30s, and I was pissed! I was glad that, as another Catholic, I didn't have to shed the anti-science stuff or biblical literalism or any of that, but finding out that the Exodus didn't happen and Moses wasn't real and all that was what sent me down the path of deconstruction.
I don’t know maybe things were different back then. Anyway, who knows it’s all weird how people survived I have no clue even without the Bible just think about it. Sometimes I wonder I try to grow one plant and it dies. If I didn’t have supermarkets I would die too.
Well I'm not sure where you got the idea that Noah planted grape vines in the spring and harvested them in the fall (it's not in the Bible), I do know that Noah experienced much greater miracles than that.
This is beautifully blasphemous. Too good to share. I don’t want to annoy my annoying friends who believe in this nonsense. lol. I also did at one point, but always questioned it much to the annoyance of my pastor who tricked me out of my mortgage money by telling me God will give me more if I handed over to help build a bigger church to make room for the expanding congregation. Eventually I was smart enough to leave after publishing two books that further annoyed the pastor.
Best challenge to religion that I have seen. Astounding that people swallow the rubbish that holy man and books espouse. What a shame that Islam is too dangerous to poke fun at.
@@malyvo0 "Thou shalt not kill." - Exodus 20:13 King James version. We are atheists, because we actually do read the entire Bible, cover to cover, sometimes more than once. #ReligionIsFiction
I. People who don’t want to hear a message will try to find some way to discredit either the messenger or the message A. If there is a perceived flaw, then they feel justified in tossing out everything they don’t want to accept B. Atheists and Muslims do this with the Bible 1. Neither group wants to accept the possibility that Jesus is God 2. One way they tackle the problem is to find differences between the gospel accounts and claim these are contradictions
I may not believe in a god, but I'm hopeful that we don't just cease. I like to think that our brains aren't generators, but are an interface. When I see a child prodigy play music like a person who has practiced for years, I think, "reincarnation might be a thing".
Truly, Atheism is a faith. And without doubt, upon careful examination, it would seem that it takes more faith to be an Atheist than it does to be a Christian. Paul wrote, "since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things which are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse" (Romans 1:20). The world which we live in declares on a daily basis, God Is. If one is sincere in their search, they cannot help but come to the conclusion that there is an eternal God, who is Creator of all.
Atheism isn't a faith. The word itself says it. You don't have to believe ANYTHING to be an atheist. It takes ignorance and denial to be a Christian. Stop projecting.
in critique of her responses to theology, she’s very reasonable, rational, and properly emotional in the serious moments. The tribalism past is very anachronistic, superstitious, and manipulative. And the holy texts are their devices.
_Logic is religion's worst enemy._ Try this for flying in the face of logic: atheists say everything comes from nothing. There's no greater miracle in the Bible. I don't have enough faith to believe that.
Julia's mistake was to spend time actually reading the Bible. I got dragged to Sunday School and church through high school, but it never took. In the year before I met The Bride I dated 50 women. Several had endured 12 years of Catholic education and every one was an atheist.
Yep. eHarmony THREW women at me. Every damn day, just about. Some got mad because I didn't get to them quickly enough to suit them. Probably 40 were one and done, there were three that lasted for four months. They ended when they demanded permanent status. Four months isn't enough to make that kind of decision. The Bride didn't make any demands, we got married about two years after we met.
The reason that Atheists and other religionists put so much energy into trying to proselytize, is the rush and reassurance of being agreed with. If someone is confident in their belief system, they don't need that. So, they don't involve themselves in arguments or circle-jerks about it. But you be you.
A favorite verse among the fundamentalist Christians is 2 Timothy 3:16. In translations from the most corrupt periods of Christian history, it reads: "All scriptures are inspired by God and are profitable for teaching," etc. And the fundies teach that this means every word in the bible is absolutely true history. In translations from another era when Christians were being heavily persecuted and trying to keep the "Word" from being destroyed, it says : "All scriptures that are inspired by God are profitable," etc. Possibly to state agreement with the Greek philosophers who used the work of Aesop and Homer as their foundation for education, claiming these works were inspired by God which was their custom for 500 years, more or less. Furthermore, in 1 Timothy 1:4 and Titus 1:14, Paul is clearly advising that Christians should not pay attention to the Jewish fables or myths and endless genealogies; which is what much of the book of Genesis seems to be. Clearly, there is a very limited study, by the fundies of the book they call God's word. But, in spite of this, the majority of them are some of the most honest and decent people that you will ever meet; maybe not the smartest.
adam and lillith were created at the same time the bible choose not to include the Lilith story, i guess equality wasn't an issue then. but the story is still around thank crom.
I’ve been working on deconstructing for some time. It’s hard because of the guilt and indoctrination; however, my parents thought it was the right thing to do. I’m a work in progress and so glad to have landed on Julia’s presentation. I always thought the bible was a bunch of psychotic chaos!
Absolutely! When I'm asked why I "left x-tianity to BECOME an atheist," I always respond..."I didn't become an atheist, I was born an atheist, and I left my x-tian indoctrination to RETURN to my natural, human state of atheism." Usually just gets blank stares, but I enjoy correcting people's misunderstanding...
actually the bible sates we are born into sin, separated from God, so it is incumbent on Man to respond to the good news of CHRIST and Choose relationship with GOD. ie Seek ye first the kingdom of God....
@, how do you not understand that you’re holy book of fairytales is utterly meaningless to an atheist? Put another way, I don’t give a merry fuck what the bible says! I’ve studied it for 30 years as an evangelical x-tian and as an atheist, and it is 100% man contrived and fake as all fuck! “The Bible says…” 😆😂🤣
@supercooge When people stop obeying, enrolling, teaching, learning, supporting, promoting, participating and funding religion; religion will cease to exist. Regardless of the religion. Christopher Hitchens: "Religion is manmade."
I cannot say that reading the bible made me an atheist. I was already well along the atheist path before I read. However, after reading it I incredibly satisfied that I had made the right choice. It is the one thing that I urge christians to do, and I specify that they read it in its entirety. Not just the cherry picked parts that they hear in church. All of it, cover to cover.
To better understand Christianity consider historian Hyam Maccoby's books Revolution In Judaea and The Mythmaker, Paul And The Invention Of Christianity, where he points out Paul invented Christianity at a time when the Romans made it a capital offense for anyone to advocate anything positive of Judaism. So Christianity is a systematic defilement of the OT. For example, God choosing for the mother of his only begotten child a woman betrothed to another, declared an abomination in Deut 22: 23.
I lost interest in religion by hearing a pastor saying that the reason the African continent is in its current state is that the inhabitants do not have the Christian god. Go look into some history and see what mainland Europe did to strip and lay bare what we see of Africa today.
What's he talking about? Does he not know about the demographics of his own religion in Africa? or the role his ancestors played in making damn sure of that? He should come see the multitude of Africans who day in day out pray to God for everything, as he is their last hope. How dare he?
Oh yeah....Africa was so prosperous and advanced before the Europeans came. And after the Europeans left, it just skyrocketed in wealth, safety, and good governance.
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@@JasonYork-b3i so you don't know anything about African history then. thanks for the admission.
"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." Voltaire
Being an atheist is not about being happy or not, but the inability to believe insane claims without evidence
Back then Gods were insanely crazy. Not to be confused with today's polite and stupid ways.
Atheists have more faith than any other group.
_the inability to believe insane claims without evidence_
Try this for an insane claim: the Universe and everything in it comes from nothing and nowhere for no reason at all. This is a bigger miracle than any in the Bible. Of course, there's no evidence for that.
I had a genuine supernatural born-again experience with Christ in 1981 when I was 21 years old. It was beyond earth-shattering. If you've never met the Person of Jesus Christ up close and personal, you have no clue and are unqualified to comment. Anything ever written about Jesus even in Scripture is understated and you'll never know the truth until you give Him a FAIR CHANCE with you. Jesus Christ is the Eternal God and as such will judge all of us. Be advised and come to Christ while you still can and it's not too late, because it's not. Come to Christ and LIVE FOREVER IN HEAVEN.
@@DDEENY thank you for standing up for the gospel. when it really comes down to it, I don't think that atheists care about evidence.
I’m with you 100%.
Proud atheist for 50 years. Isn’t it great to be responsible for one’s own actions.
>>Isn’t it great to be responsible for one’s own actions.
@@bretth3718 Did you choose to believe in a god?
If so, which god did you choose and why?
We are all responsible for our own actions.Snap out of it.
@@johnpetruzzi9357Hi John. Bret is merely reflecting what many (atheistic) academics espouse (nowadays). It’s not a universal position, but it appears to be somewhat pervasive.
(See, for example, Sapolsky’s book, Determined.)
Free will and consciousness present difficult issues concerning ‘free choice’ for modern science (and atheism, for that matter), especially if one believes the universe is deterministic. [Quantum wave collapse indeterminacy does not alleviate the problems. Nor does mathematical chaos.]
The existence of personal responsibility is apparently undermined by various versions of these modern forms of scientific determinism. [Many academics seem to be appalled by the consequence involved. Their usual reactions are similar to your own: reflexive rejection. [I offer no opinion on the matter, herein.]]
@SystemsMedicine Your god doesn't solve the free will issue either.
If your god is all knowing and omnipotent, humans have no free will.
Because she created every human knowing every choice they will do before birth.
It amazes me that people cannot see how psychotic Christianity is.
But yet Christianity argues for many of our laws like rape and murder being wrong, and encourages truth. Deuteronomy 22:5 says men shouldn’t wear women’s clothes, and look what’s happening with transgender activism these days, they’re coming after our kids trying to indoctrinate them, taking them away from their parents against there wishes.
They ignore it and choose what they want to hear
@@Brian-Ahavah well there's all the burn in hell stuff for starters. and the autocracy. and the guilt. and the bullshit.
@@Brian-Ahavahah yes, when god killed himself to save us from himself.
@Scorned405 yes it's wild when sane people realize random swirling molecules could not mindlessly swirl together thousands of specified functioning protien machines then mindlessly inject themselves with coded information to facilitate coordination of all these machines to effect a singular goal aka self replicating life!! Its,wild they cant dimly believe such mind blowing engineering could mindlessly flop itself into am,engineering marvel which by comparison renders a space shuttle a mere child's toy
Crazy right!
Thanks for the enjoyable Bible commentary lol all so true. I was raised Catholic, though I never believed it, so I've always been an atheist. Suffered through Catholic school and pretending to believe, in those days you couldn't be an open atheist....glad times have changed.
Amen! Alfa Zeta Near N. Orleans.
Apparently you do not live in the southeastern states of the USA.
@@jimwing.2178 I do. You still can't be an open atheist here, unless you don't need a job or a family.
Me too! And when I would ask intelligent questions about god and the church's teachings that no one could actually answer, I was told "it's not our place to question god". That always let me know that they don't know the answer. I'd ask logical questions about so many bible stories that made zero sense in terms of what god was supposed to be, and would get "oh come on". As I get older, it kinda irritates me that people still believe in that junk.
“My religion is simple, my religion is kindness. ‘’ I forget who said this but it is enough
She's from my home town. Could not be more proud. And also, I get it. Growing up and learning that they sugar coated the bible for children cause the truth is so disgusting.
the bible is not the problem. as a child it never was sugar coated for me. you just don't want to deal with the sin in your life.
Pretty coloring books.
Brainwashing.
I had a friend who was raised going to Bible study, had 100% religious schooling, etc. Sometimes I'd mention something that was in the Bible, and she'd say, "Really?!" and we'd look it up. Turns out, Bible study very carefully steers believers toward only certain stories and neglects all the inconvenient ones, and even the inconvenient details in familiar ones. (Julia touches on some of these, for example, in the Ten Commandments. They aren't actually numbered in the text, btw, so you can parse them how you like, which is why Catholics have a different numbering system than the rest of Christianity, and Jews have a different version than either, and it turns out the last bit in the commandments is the one Julia mentioned about how you shouldn't cook a baby goat in its mother's milk. There are plenty weird rules elsewhere, like a whole steaming pile in Leviticus. My favorite is the prohibition against Xmas trees in Jeremiah 10:2-4.)
Here's a fun one too: Ask a fundamentalist if they believe the Bible is literally true. Every last word? They'll tell you yes. Which version, you ask. They usually go for the King James version. So you believe in unicorns?! Act shocked and appalled. They won't know what to say. The King James version mentions unicorns multiple times (Numbers 23:22 and 24:8, Deuteronomy 33:17, Job 39:9 and 39:10, Psalms 22:21, 29:6, and 92:10, and Isaiah 34:7). Obviously, these are errors translation, which destroys their claim of literal interpretation. Next ask them if they believe in dragons. Because there are plenty dragons in the Bible too, and those are even more ridiculous (Not just Revelations, although there are plenty there. There's the whole bit with Leviathan in Job 41:1-34 if you're into sea serpents).
So, yeah, looking more deeply into religion will drive you to atheism in short order. Notice how religious moderates will run toward secular subject when they get cornered by people more religious than they are. Religious people can't handle a close look at what they claim they believe.
Articulate points to be certain...... But, they only serve to support true biblical principles such as yes Dragons (Dinosaurs) did walk among us at one time!
Christmas trees (pagan customs) have no place in the church! And as far as mosaic law is concerned, we are no longer under those guidelines as Christ Jesus has delivered us that we now have redemption through faith in and acceptance of the supreme sacrifice. The truths of the Bible are as apparent as anyone takes the time to understand and literally see with their own eyes. What a joyful future true believers have ahead of us!!!
Praise be unto Jehovah God and thankfulness for His Son Jesus Christ the first born of all Creation:)
Reminds me of when my kids grandma got them a storybook bible for kids and I immediately flipped through it and asked her why they left out the part where lot gets shit faced and fucks his daughters two nights in a row. Someone else quickly changed the subject to avoid the moment
@@jasoncutledge2213 The dinasours went extinct 66million years ago. And the earliest evidence of religion is 300,000 - 500,000 years ago. So........
@@trishamay3380
Nonsense!!
Then why have we found pliable tissue with blood vessels from Triceratops?
Anyone who believes man can say what was going on millions of years ago are truly the gullible ones lol....
@@jasoncutledge2213 Oh, how cute. You bear false witness. Just like every other idjit creationist.
"It has served us well, this MYTH of Christ" Pope Leo X
Check the source of that quote.
@@marklivingston7957 The source depends on who you believe. As usual, in religious customs.
"this MYTH of Christ"
Assuming your attribution is correct, then WHICH of the following was intended by his remark:
"A myth is a traditional story that explains a cultural belief, practice, or natural phenomenon. Myths are often filled with gods, magical creatures, and mystery. Some myths may have factual origins, but others are completely fictional."
Any ideas?
Genesis, when read literally, should embarrass a reasonably educated eighth-grader.
Leaving religion was the best thing to ever happen to me.
same literally
me too :)
@@Apollos2023 Same
Correct . That was a great decision . But when the Most High comes back....thats probably going to be the worst thing to ever happen...
@@JackieLastrada and how do you know that?
How could I possibly not subscribe. That was brilliant 👏
No one knows the Bible more than an Atheist.
@@alexissmith5589
That's what made me an atheist.
That's laughable, considering taking things out of context is the bread and butter of bad atheist takes.
Christians shouldn't have to explain basic concepts to atheists and how to properly interpret things.
Since I became an atheist, my knowledge of the bible has only increased.
Yes, because some of us were conservative Evangelical Christian who went to Bible College and were in the ministry for many years. My life is so much better without all the brainwashing from Christianity.
@BrenGunning
In my case, the bible, philosophy, logic and history. And I also learned how to think critically, and question everything.
If there were a kind and loving god who cared about humanity, he/she/it would not have subjected us to four more years of a Trump presidency. submitted on 11/08/2024
Agreed and supported.
Grow up
_he/she/it would not have subjected us to four more years of a Trump presidency. submitted on 11/08/2024_
Ah, the woke. Wokeness and atheism go together.
Apparently god likes psychopathic dictators
He sends those people to hell, what do you mean he likes what they do.
Simply brilliant. It captures the absurdity of Christianity perfectly.
Zoar is the constellation Pisces.
Pisces is "saved" with the precession of the equinoxes from the Ram to the Fish.
…..wut?
Oh yeah it was real absurd when Jesus saved a woman from being stoned to death for adultery. How dare Jesus do something so nice.
@@yungalucard9139 and in return he took the lives of innocent babies, women, young men and all elderly throughout the entire planet through a flood which he deemed 100% of the population was evil.. which he later regretted. Sounds divine alright.
@yungalucard9139 remember when od had 42 children mauled by a bear for calling someone bald?
Religion poisons EVERYTHING!
@justincredible.----Karl Marx was completely right when he stated in one of his books that Religion is the Opium of the masses.
So true 👍🏻
No. humans poison everything.
so does atheism. look at russia and china
@@racerx4152 ------You are so, so, ignorant. Now, do you freaking know what is going on in the world? Russia Atheist? The majority of the people of Russia Atheist? Don't you bloody know that Russia has a established religion? The Russian Orthodox Church, a Christian Church. As to China, China is not communist, China is ruled by the Communist Party of China, but this doesn't mean that China is communist or that all the more than a billion people of China are Atheist. Please, educate yourself.
I had my epiphany back in 1987 and walked away. I'm more at peace with myself now knowing that I don't have any answers than when I thought I did.
You sound like a Deist.
Brilliant analysis from Julia Sweeney, just brilliant!
The Bible works when you don't think...at all! Because the moment you think you're already beyond the Bible and God short comings
"The Bible works when you don't think...at all!"
So, let me get this right. You are accusing the (literally) hundreds of MILLIONS of people who have derived inspiration - in many different ways - from the Bible (you don't specify which parts) of being Non-Thinkers? I 'think' that any reasonable person would regard THAT statement as insufferably smug and ignorant as it's sweeping. By all means, challenge: intelligently. But please DON'T assume that YOU are somehow wiser than all those 'millions'! And I wonder if you'd make a _similar_ statement about those who have studied (eg) the writings of Plato, Spinoza, Marcus Aurelius, and Thomas Aquinas? But perhaps you haven't studied _their_ writngs and ideas in _quite_ the same depth as you (implicitly) have the 39 books of the OT and the 27 of the NT?
@marvinc9994 anyone can draw meaning from anything! Comics, movies, art, nature! Being inspirational, motivational, or life changing isn't unique to the Bible alone nor God! If you believe the Bible as the real words of God then you're not thinking rationally, you're believing blindly! Tolkien, Stan Lee, George Lucas all made things that did everything the Bible does and more but doesn't take itself as an imaginary sky wizard's rules to obey or means to control others! That's what I'm getting at there's nothing the Bible does that anything else can't do the same or better without God!
This was very entertaining and informative, thank you very much.
Excellent Julia ❤you. Reason and Religion are enemy of each others
Carl Sagan and Julia Sweeny speak to me. It's so nice to go through life in awe of the miracle and enjoying each moment. The most violent text ever written is just not something I would want any child to ever read or have read to them.
Funny we both rely on "Faith". I believe in a God which is the "Logos" or in one definition the mind that thought into being all created things including energy and the smallest particles that your theories are derived. You have Faith in unprovable pie in the sky theories that will probably change over time or be discarded in the future. Humans have always believed in a god of some sort. Our common human nature dictates this reality. Dawkins and friends simply explain this reality as due to human ignorance of the past. We "enlightened beings" are far too sophisticated for this "silly belief". Yet none of these theories explain "Love". None of these theories can explain consciousness even though they claim otherwise. Converting the immaterial into the material is a nonsense. You have a choice. Have faith in a theory like quantum fluctuations or a "Loving God, the Logos or Mind that thought all our reality into existence and provides hope of a life after our death on this planet. I realize the impossibility of either in human reason but humanity requires hope and love which, if were true quantum fluctuations theory can only provide death and chaos on earth due to the problem you are left with which is there is no objective reality and leaves science and reason and truth to be decided by the mob. Morality then is decided by the most powerful and not by an objective loving God. No my friend I cannot agree with your very well argued case, even as compelling as it is. "We don’t yet know the source of consciousness in mammals, but that doesn’t justify defaulting to “godunit” as an explanation. That is argumentum ad ignorantiam." Well the human condition limits our reason and therefore like it or not we all live in ignorance. To pretend that the so called enlightened people do not is simply funny. Regards
"The most violent text ever written"
WHICH part of the new Testament are you referring to?
And - have you EVER read the Koran and the Hadith?
If you find what Jesus preached as 'violent' as that which Mohammad did, I'd LOVE to know why! If, however, you're simply a slave to the Fashionable Opinions of the Moment, then you won't be able to supply me with an answer, and so probably won't even bother!
She makes a good point about Exodus. The Israelis controlled the Sanai for almost two generations and sent thousands of archeologists to many of the places discussed in the text, but they couldn't find any archeological evidence to support what it says.
During the time period ascribed to the Exodus, (Circa 1250 BCE) the entire region of the Levant, Sinai, Judea, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and parts of Anatolia were literally INSIDE THE EGYPTIAN EMPIRE! The border of Egypt extended all the way up the Mediterranean coast to the Empire of the Hittites, the Akkadians and the Assyrians. Aside from that, the Egyptians kept copious records of ALL their possessions, wars, major events, either on papyri or carved in stone! If an entire army had been swallowed in the Red Sea pursuing several million runaway Hebrew slaves, it most certainly would have been carved into a monument! There is not a single credible mention of Jewish/Hebrew slaves residing in and fleeing from Egypt in the Egyptian records. And no mention of any Ten Plagues either. P.S., I stand corrected on the dates of the alleged Exodus. It supposedly took place
I don't know how they get past the fact Moses never existed. How can a guy that never existed write Genesis? How can he lead thousands of Hebrew slaves out of Egypt, when they were never there in the first place? It is Genesis that claims the Babble is true, and it is nothing but fiction from that sentence onward.
just some biological organisms making up stories to tell each other. some suckers believe them.
If Genesis, Noahs Ark or Exodus didn't happen or were not actual historical events the Bibles claims them to be, then it's authenticity crumbles
@@johnrockyryan There's no question of "if" when it comes to authenticity. The Bible is LITERATURE, especially the first five books! It is written in narrative form; it is packed with literary devices right down to the names. Abraham, means, "father of nations;" Moses means, "saved from water;" Jesua (Jesus) means "to rescue." (Saviour) As to the Old Testament, much of it is stolen outright from other cultures. Yahweh/Elohim is a SUMERIAN storm god, so they even coopted their god! Yahweh didn't choose the Jews; THEY chose him!
Reading the bible causes atheism. Apologists just try to stem the flow. But the trend is clear.
“The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible.” (Mark Twain)
No other book has made so many atheists as the Bible.
And they read it like it's brilliant prose! It's awful! Repetitive, dull, riddled with errors, and just ludicrous. Carl 69:420
I became an atheist after reading the bible, the quran and some of the other strange texts of holy stuff.
the Quran?? I am a deist who read both but what is wrong with the Quran lol. The Quran is not even half as brutal as Christianity.
@@Mmorikoy So its ok to kill a person that stops believing in your imaginary friend?
Or chop of their hands for stealing?
Is this ok in your mind?
@@trdtommy Can you bring me the verse that says kill the one who stops believing because I don’t remember any verse like that it’s been a long time since I read the Quran and the Bible as for cutting off the hand this is not in the Quran but in other Muslim books like the Hadith which is something about the sayings of Muhammad but according to what the scholars have agreed upon yes the hand of the thief is cut off unless the one he stole from forgives him or that thief needed to steal in order to live
@@trdtommy But in general, I agree with you. There are illogical things in Islam, but these things are not in the Qur’an actually. Rather, they are found in other Muslim books, such as the hadiths, which, by the way, I have not read yet.
@@Mmorikoy 9:12 in the quran. But i dont rally care that much about those things. I care if what i know about the world to be true. Since noone ever proved the existance of any god(includes all the gods before abramic religions that also is what the abramic religions has copied a lot from) ever.
I was invited to join a Lutheran Bible studies group that I attended once. When I called the Pastor to inquire when the next meeting was, he told me that the group had disbanded.
"You can't understand the Bible if you don't believe in god." That's pretty much a closed system. I was raised Christian and rejected it at 10 yrs old. God sees, knows everything you do, that's worst than Santa. Jeannine
"rejected it at 10 yrs old"
Yes, 10-year-olds are famous for their spiritual insights and deep wisdom - in much the same way that Greta Thunberg (herself, blessed with a permanent pre-pubescent mentality) is famous for _her_ lucid thoughts on the staggeringly complex science of Atmospheric Physics. You two would get on rather well, I think!
I always wonder who decided that parts of the bible are not to be taken literally. Grew up as a Jehovah's Witness and that cherry picking thing always got to me. I was 24 when I gave birth to my first child prematurely and needed a blood transfusion to survive. My son was tiny, but okay. My father had a total fit when my husband signed the paperwork for the transfusion. I started reading anything i could lay my hand on in favor of or against religion, the bible and the god of the bible. I stopped going to meetings as my actions were considered awful, I was disfellowshipped in abstentia after I refused to attend a hearing and openly said I did not believe that a loving god would allow a mother to die and leave a child who needed her behind. I declared that I was Atheist from that day on. I am now 72 and still an Atheist.
Great to see a woman talk about how stupid the bible is
So sad for both of you. God have mercy upon you!
@@HugoChar-673 any evidence a god exists?
@@HugoChar-673 LOL My dog has more mercy than that monster.
It’s sad and amazing to think that any woman would defend an Abrahamic religion.
@@HugoChar-673your god is evil af if it exists
A man without religion is like a fish without a bicycle.....
That's known as a false equivalence. The correct phrase is "a man without religion is like a fish without water"...
@@supercoogeapparently you did not get the joke that man had no use for religion
@@supercooge
Your book doesn't mention spousal abuse, domestic abuse, child abuse, animal abuse and SA; all felony crimes.
@@supercooge
Your book doesn't mention embezzlement, both business and personal embezzlement.
A woman without a man is like a fish without a, Oh! Wait! This is a Gloria Steinem quote. Stupid plagiarist!
Friends ask me, "why I gave up Christianity and became an atheist?" They often as, "did you have a bad experience in the church?" I say, "no, I actually enjoyed the social structure and friendship made in church." I especial enjoyed youth group. So, I tell people my experience in church was mostly positive, but that doesn't make it true just because I had fun in youth group.
I hope to see many christian commenters here.
They are the ones who need these videos the most.
What do you want Christians to comment on?
@cypriantertullian7495 I don't care. It's important that they watch these videos to free themselves.
To free themselves from madness. 😂😂😂
@@Lordidude ...It's funny that you think Christians are the ones that need to be freed, when you're the ones that need to be freed. The lady in this video has no clue what she's talking about other than telling half truths out of context mixed in with jokes. I am a Christian. So ask me what you want to know.
@cypriantertullian7495 Thanks for opening up for questions. I have one question: Do you believe in gods from other religions (Vishnu, Quetzacoatl, Zeus, Ares, Mars etc.)? Why or why not?
Never heard of this woman before! Thank you for bringing her to my attention!
Me and my brother spent hours making fun of the bible when we were kids. We still do. Fun to see she has the same sense of humor.
She used to be on Saturday Night Live in the early days.
@@Soapandwater6 She’s also had a few supporting roles in various sitcoms. Her character on Frasier was great.
Brilliant - she's got a lot of courage skewer the bible like that.
The Bible is evidence of religion, not God.
A sensible comment at last
Wrong. Bible is God's word.
Christianity isn't. Religion.
It's the truth.
@chrisbailey9377 Wrong. The Bible is a man-made tool used to control and manipulate it's subjects. Just. Like. You.
@@chrisbailey9377 Wrong. The Bible is a man-made tool used to control and manipulate it's subjects.
@@chrisbailey9377 Wrong. The Bible is a man-made tool used to control and manipulate its subjects.
"Faith" is defined as "belief without evidence"... "Moron" is defined as "person with faith"...
Why would an all-knowing god need to test anyone or anything...shouldn't an all-knowing god already have all of the answers?
Yes, omniscience poses a batch of problems, the god of the bible not only tested people, which certainly should have had foreknowledge that people would sin, but also tested himself when Jesus went into the wilderness for 40 days. Nor would an all knowing being regret anything, like he did after flooding earth.
Because he gives us the free will to make choices. Every choice has a positive and negative outcome, life is hard so we can learn from our mistakes and grow through experience.
@yungalucard9139 omniscience and free will cannot coexist.
@yungalucard9139 why would god regret making the world and drowning all those innocent babies and animals?
@@yungalucard9139 we can do that without reference to any god. You have, as most theists do, wilfully missed the point. Take the log out of your own eye and think for a moment about the implications of the god you believe in: a perfect, all knowing, all powerful, all loving god. One that apparently either didn't anticipate that putting the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden of Eden wasn't a good idea and that things wouldn't end well for the humans he'd created, or did know but went ahead with it anyway, because reasons.
Please explain to me how suffering in the world that has nothing to do with the exercise of free will is compatible with a tri-omni god? Why such a god, who, being all powerful, could end all suffering, and being all knowing could do it in a way that left free will intact, and being all loving wouldn't hesitate to do so, yet hasn't?
And while you're at it, please also explain how a perfect being could have wants, needs or desires? How they could be raised to anger? Or regret?
Im responsible for my life I’m responsible for my failures I’m responsible for everything THATS MY FREEDOM OF BEING HUMAN. It’s difficult but it’s the truth.
Julia Sweeny was a key part of my deconversion. I discovered her show as I was going through similar things. She's not really popular among atheist, but she was well-timed for me. I'm grateful to her. If I ever got a chance to speak to her, I would tell her that her struggle made my struggle less.
I had never heard of Sweeney but this strikes me as a very old video compilation. She has quite the delivery not to mention memory.
@stephenpowstinger733 oh yeah, I discovered it in 04-05, and I think it was old then.
Brilliant and so incredibly funny. Love it. You are great.
I went from a devout fundamentalist believer to atheist after having put my fears aside and read the bible with an objective mindset. I am proud to say that I have been religion free and a proud atheist since 1994.
Story of Joab, really messed up. God put that guy in therapy forever just to win a bet with the devil.
God promises not to drown the world again. He tells Noah next time he'll use fire.
The thing is, he didn't drown the world in the first place There's never been a global flood.
The Bible may say the world will be destroyed by fire, but God didn't tell that to Noah.
Hilarious.Horribly Biblically literal, but hilarious. Thanks, Julie.
Bach was protestant. Nice music, but not much to do with Catholicism. I too was raised Catholic, am totally lapsed, and my experience of it left me, finally, uninterested in religion in general, and realizing that, hey, there's no such thing as a god.
The Bible is basically just a Story Book and should be treated as such
it is morally repulsive and should be ignored completely
@. You're absolutely correct. You could find good by cherry picking but why even bother.
The bronze age goat herder's guide to the galaxy.
*EXCEPT FOR THE 300+ PROPHECIES THAT HAVE ALREADY COME TRUE... PLUS THE DOZENS OF OTHER PROPHECIES THAT ARE ON THE VERGE OF COMING TRUE*
@@matthewclay6535 And I have a yellow, glitter farting unicorn in my garage. By the way your caps-lock is on, or are you yelling?
I'm proud to be an atheist❣️
Almost any topic can be better handled and even more thoughtfully explained through the use of humor. Brilliant job Julia and you weren't so bad on SNL either.😮
Im glad i opened my eyes as a child and moved away from religion
Yup, got the catholic indocrination but knew better than to inquire about why everyone else deserved eternal damnation for not being in our club. Took a bit of de-programming but after one bites the bullet and goes out into the wilderness it soon enough becomes beautiful, good knowing how to think rather than what to think.
Why have I never heard of Julia Sweeney? Brilliant.
She had a cameo in Pulp Fiction
Same here, since I woke from this book I’ve enjoyed watching many atheist’s debate programs, but J.S is the first time to see! Excellent points!
She was on saturday night live for many years. She was really great on that show and very funny. She did some very funny scenes with Chris Farley and Phil Hartman. You need to check her out more.
@ I’ve watch every episode. Don’t recognize her. My guess is she didn’t do the religious critiquing on SNL. lol . I’ll check it out
9:57 _"before she comes back and he kills her by lighting her on fire"_
I'm not religious but I think a burnt offering was killed _before_ being lighted on fire! Little known fact: one of the reasons for a 'burnt offering' was because, according to the first testament, God _loves_ the smell of burning flesh - something you won't hear being preached in church!
Who doesn’t love a good barbecue
Dishonesty an deception rule in churches. No one would stay for an entire sermon if pastors and priests were honest people.
If you read the holy bible with an open mind and a sense of humor it soon becomes the unholy bible.
It's ignorance being used as science taught by equally ignorant people
Awesome and true. I gave up the God of the bible when I was 16 years old, 73 now. A cousin was killed by a train and like all Catholics I got down on my knees that night to say the Lord's prayer and ask God why he had to died. God never answered.
When you realize that Christianity is based on the idea of human sacrifice, you begin to see how insane it is.
Plus, when someone promises to return and they haven’t returned in nearly 2,000 years, you have to eventually accept that they just aren’t coming back.
😂✌️🤷♀️
If I went on vacation to the Middle East and they kllled me, I wouldn’t want to go back either..
Human sacrifice and ritualistic blood magic
Why is that insane? I think most would agree the world would be a better place if everyone helped each other out. And what is that you might ask? Self-sacrifice 😉
@@yungalucard9139that's... entirely unrelated.
@@zombine555you still have a lot to learn
the human invention of god(s) is the cost of having a complex nervous system, an expression of psychological stress and a mechanism to cope with it.
Simply approaching these texts with non-credulity will quickly rid you of it's curse. Brilliant presentation.
Matthew 7:15 KJV
[15] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
When people were burning the Beatles albums back in the 60's I think they should have been burning bibles.
The Beatles only became popular because teenage girls screamed over their sissy hairstyles .
An 8 year flash in the pan group .
In 1970 , when those teenage girls grew up , their music was out - dated and not in demand anymore and the group broke up .
@@RobertStambaugh-l5r So people don't still love The Beatles? Really?
I don't condone any book burning.
@@RobertStambaugh-l5r
Either read up on the band or shut up. You don't know what you're talking about.
@@RobertStambaugh-l5r A strenuously overrated band and 'talent', certainly. And pop music has only gotten (largely) worse in the intervening years.
I’m so tired of hearing christians use the excuse “we can’t understand God’s ways” to explain the horrific things in the bible, as well as the horrific things going on in the world.
All god stories are man made.
The universe had a beginning. Whatever birthed the universe has to be spaceless and timeless. Essentially a spiritual/supernatural power.
@@yungalucard9139 No, we don't know if the universe had a beginning. We can look very far back in time, very close to the big bang, but not completely too it. We don't know what happened in those earliest moments, let alone that we know what was before that. We know nothing about that, and by nothing I mean nothing, no statements can be made about it, so also not the statement that the universe had a beginning. And for certain not that it was birthed and properties of that what birthed it, like space-less and timeless, because we know nothing about it. "Essentially a spiritual/supernatural power." now you are just blabbering on. Your first assumption is baseless, your second assumption is even more baseless and your third claim is outright blabbering nonsense.
@@yungalucard9139 Most modern physicists think the universe did NOT have a beginning, so your assertion is groundless.
Look it up on the google “how old is the universe” and it will say 13.7 billion years old
@@adpop750look it up
How have I never heard of Julia before today 😳 her and I think alike and I LOVE IT!!!! 💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝💝
She played Pat in It’s Pat!
I *love* that her interpretations aren’t rooted in philosophy likely to go over the heads of listeners. Just eye-to-eye.
Yes, good point! Plain English and simple logic is all you need to dismiss ANY revealed religion!
Yes, definitely not rooted in philosophy. LOL!
The very foundation of the church and every good thing that it does is the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. From those we derive our distinguishing marks - the love that we hold in common (John 13:35) and the doctrine that sets the guidelines for how we live, act, and worship (John 14:15). Atheist churches have no hope because they are missing these key elements. These principles don’t just affect atheist churches, though. Splits, division, and sharp disagreement occur in the church as well. Ephesians 4:1-3 reminds us that we must be diligent to preserve our peace and unity that come from the Spirit. As the church can become fractured into small cliques and sects when we look out for ourselves first or don’t show the love of Christ in all things, we have to be all the more diligent in this day and age to prove ourselves united in Him.
The only way for humans to ever become truly unified in one mind and purpose is through the love of Jesus Christ. Is that love alive, working, and evident in your congregation? Your life? My life? I hope we’ll all take some time to think on these things.
What cult drinks blood, eats flesh and is saved only by human sacrifice?
It's so horrific when think it that way. Christianity is a blood cult. Next level of superstition.
@@theheavenless A blood cult that reveres human sacrifice too. The god of Abraham, evil trickster god that it was, didn't accept human sacrifice; but Jesus' god does.
The Christian cult!
I'd love to see a modern church run the animal sacrifice and priestly purification rituals as outlined in the bible. "You shall slaughter the ram and take some of its blood and put it on the lobe of Aaron’s right ear and on the lobes of his sons’ right ears and on the thumbs of their right hands and on the big toes of their right feet and sprinkle the rest of the blood around on the altar. Then you shall take some of the blood that is on the altar and some of the anointing oil and sprinkle it on Aaron and on his garments and on his sons and on his sons’ garments with him; so, he and his garments shall be consecrated, as well as his sons and his sons’ garments with him".
Because nothing says a trustworthy priest like a guy with blood dripping from his ear, thumbs, and toes while his clothes are splashed with fresh blood and a further burning of entrails can begin.
@@Wertbag99 Sounds like they were obsessed with blood.
This is the first time I have seen Julia! I am now a fan! 😎
The Bible is the literal word of god, until it says something evil… then it’s up for “interpretation “! How convenient!
I’ve always thought of how lovely it would be to have a long campfire chat with Julia Sweeney and Olivia Coleman. That sounds like about the best evening I can imagine.
As an adult I joined a bible study as true Jesus loving church person. Several years later I left the group as an avowed atheist.
Reading the Bible was highly instrumental in me becoming an atheist.
What was the final straw for your loss of belief, if I may ask? Seems like it all accumulated?
@@Jay-o1s7p Often you will find there wasn't a final straw, there would be a first cause, something that made them want to study, something that didn't sit right (for me that was the claim of a global flood). Then once you delve into the topic you start finding many different areas of conflict (bible mistakes, the horror of the OT, problem of evil, suffering, divine hiddenness, instruction etc). By the end it is not a single thing that ends it but looking at the complete picture of all you have learned you realise you have no belief left.
Good people can do good things and bad people can do evil things but for good people do evil things that takes religion !
That's the worst decision you could ever make. Albeit, God has given us a free will. So be it.
*A universe from nothing*
Thousands and thousands of times, creationists accuse physicists of *“Science claim that the universe came from nothing”* On one hand this is a very hypocritical claim, because we all know that their religion makes the exactly the same claim, but they give the job of creation to a god. On second hand, science attempts to answer the “accusation” with evidence and if that is unavailable, with some plausible hypothesis.
The first issue is: “*What is nothing?* I am not sure that there is such a thing in the universe as a “nothing”. Even parts of what we once thought as empty is full of energy, waves and subatomic particles. As such, we are unable to do any tests on this hypothetical “nothing” and are unsure of what may “come” from it. The best we can do is to define (rather unsatisfactorily) as a nothing is an *absence of everything*
If we assert that our current universe can actually can *come from nothing* what evidence and logical reasoning can we present to establish a plausibility? We know that the sum total of the energy in the universe is zero. Once we understand the laws of nature, the characteristics of a universe created from nothing would be precisely the characteristic of our universe.
This of course is not a “proof” but it is highly plausible.
We are at the beginning of the discovery only, and have not yet understood fully the details of quantum gravity. But we can work back (to the origin of the universe) to time = 0. In the journey backward, every step is plausible (some supported by testing) until we arrive at the last step of quantum gravity, which needs a theory. Quantum gravity, when combined with time fluctuates and provides for the creation of a universe.
When space stretches it requires energy. Empty space includes energy (we call dark energy). As space expands, the energy remains the same (it sounds like you are getting something from nothing). In classical physics if we expand matter, the density of that matter decreases. But that is not the case with empty space, which if expanded will give the appearance of an energy increase which does not occurs -- the universe remains at the same energy level, concurrenty with an increase in size, which presents us with a paradox.
This phenomenon appears to defy the laws of (classical) physics. It is also true that when you endow space with energy that space will have a negative pressure. This is one of the reasons why space expands exponentially. As the universe expands, it does work on “empty” space, and it dumps energy into the “empty” space.
So it sounds absurd that the universe expands exponentially without decreasing in density, yet it satisfies all the laws of physics including the conservation of energy. We do not understand the source of that energy (although it is recognized by quantum mechanics). The expanding universe remains at zero energy level. All the energy of motion by the galaxies and its components is cancelled by the pull of gravity. However this observations can only be done if we assume a closed universe.
Unfortunately the longer we wait the less we will see (assuming that we find no stronger and better instruments to measure, but probably this will not be the case). Because galaxies are moving away from us at a speed exceeding the speed of light, and as the consequence, the images of them will disappear in time.
Very well written. If I might make a suggestion. It might be good to explain that time is formally a dimension like the other three. So, when the Big Bang happened, and the three spatial dimensions started, so must have the time dimension. So no time before the Big Bang - at least in our Universe.
Are there other universes? Perhaps and perhaps not. I do not know.
@@ianhurley7168
Thank you! Well, actually our universe is just the latest manifestation of the universe. Most of us scientist think that there were a series of universes, each formed, than collapsed back into the Singularity. A couple of years ago I sent a short article to Scientific American. You may enjoy it. It follows this comment.
@@ianhurley7168
*What was before the Big Bang?*
Fairly recently science has defined the scientific theory known as the “Big Bang” the model for the formation of our universe. We understand that the existence of what we call the “Singularity” expanded to form our universe, which keeps expanding today at an accelerated rate. We base this scientific theory on measurable and testable evidence, which even creationists have a difficult time to dispute. OK then, but what was before the Singularity? or did the Singularity always exist? In here, creationists appear to have found a “got you” because science, which proposes hypothesis and theories based on evidence, appears to be clueless. But we are not so clueless as it appears at a cursory examination. For reference, I will use two science papers published both from Cornell university; (1) Xingang Chen, Mohammad Hossein Namjoo, Yi Wang “Quantum Primordial Standard Clocks” arxiv.org/abs/1509.03930 and (2) Xingang Chen, Abraham Loeb, Zhong-Zhi Xianyu “Unique Fingerprints of Alternatives to Inflation in the Primordial Power Spectrum” arxiv.org/abs/1809.02603 (sentences enclosed in quotes are taken from these papers).
While the cosmic inflation or the Big Bang expansion is well known, other very different theories are also in play. “In some of these theories, the state of the universe preceding the Big Bang - the so-called primordial universe - was contracting instead of expanding, and the Big Bang was thus a part of a Big Bounce” (The Big Bounce is a cyclic or oscillatory model of the universe).
“A team of scientists led by the CfA's Xingang Chen, along with Loeb, and Zhong-Zhi Xianyu of the Physics Department of Harvard University, have applied an idea they call a "primordial standard clock" to the non-inflationary theories.” This clock is any type of heavy elementary particle in the primordial universe. Such particles should exist in any theory and their positions should oscillate at some regular frequency, much like the ticking of a clock's pendulum.
We can state with some confidence that the primordial universe was not entirely uniform. “There were tiny irregularities in density on minuscule scales that became the seeds of the large-scale structure observed in today's universe.”
"If we imagine all of the information we learned so far about what happened before the Big Bang is in a roll of film frames, then the standard clock tells us how these frames should be played," Chen explained. "Without any clock information, we don't know if the film should be played forward or backward, fast or slow, just like we are not sure if the primordial universe was inflating or contracting, and how fast it did so. This is where the problem lies. The standard clock put time stamps on each of these frames when the film was shot before the Big Bang, and tells us how to play the film."
The team calculated how these standard clock signals should look in non-inflationary theories, and suggested how they should be searched for in astrophysical observations. "If a pattern of signals representing a contracting universe were found, it would falsify the entire inflationary theory," Xianyu said.
The success of this idea lies with experimentation. "These signals will be very subtle to detect," Chen said, "and so we may have to search in many different places. The cosmic microwave background radiation is one such place, and the distribution of galaxies is another. We have already started to search for these signals and there are some interesting candidates already, but we need more data."
The importance of this research is as follows: We are beginning to move the clock backwards, prior to the 13.8 billion years of the Big Bang event. To be sure, these are the beginning, baby steps only with an immense amount of information yet to be uncovered. As Richard Feynman (theoretical physicist) said “The fun is finding things out”. It is highly likely that delving into the “mist” before the Big Bang, we will arrive in a construct where time and physical laws operate very differently from what we learned about our current universe. I will probably not be around when this “mist” will start to clear, but cannot help but wonder, what will the creationist excuse be then? or will creationism still exist?
The bible is total bunk front to back and top to bottom. Only a fool could possibly believe such utterly absurd nonsense.
_The bible is total bunk front to back and top to bottom._
A huge portion of the Bible has been archaeologically verified, and much of it relatively recently. King David's existence was only externally verified in the nineties, Pontius Pilate's in the sixties.
Job 26:7 says: _God stretches the northern sky out over empty space and hangs the earth on nothing._ There's no land at the North Pole and Earth hangs in space. How did they know that thousands of years BC?
An atheist wrote _The Genesis Enigma._ Maybe you should read that. Oh, right, you don't read.
Although that’s very true, indoctrination is an incredibly powerful tool, it’s hard to abandon a religion that you were raised in and that almost becomes an aspect of your personhood. And church leaders are very intentional about avoiding the ugly parts of the Bible, and for many people, their belief and study is what the pastor says on Sunday. Furthermore, people often have religious associations for the connection and community they receive as a result.
It’s easy to call someone a fool for their belief, and it is foolish to believe, but there are so many factors that keep someone in religion beyond evidence and philosophy.
She speak real truth.
"Because now the animals have the taste for human sex and won't be satisfied...?"
That's called a joke.
HER priest actually admitted to her that most, if not all, of the Old Testament was myth?? I didn't find that out until I was in my mid-30s, and I was pissed! I was glad that, as another Catholic, I didn't have to shed the anti-science stuff or biblical literalism or any of that, but finding out that the Exodus didn't happen and Moses wasn't real and all that was what sent me down the path of deconstruction.
Very good and true summary of the "holy" book
Well said indeed. "The truth shall set you free" seems to make complete sense.
Noah planted grape vines at the spring equinox and harvested the grape crop at the autumn equinox. Six months from planting to harvest is pure magic.
I don’t know maybe things were different back then. Anyway, who knows it’s all weird how people survived I have no clue even without the Bible just think about it. Sometimes I wonder I try to grow one plant and it dies. If I didn’t have supermarkets I would die too.
Well I'm not sure where you got the idea that Noah planted grape vines in the spring and harvested them in the fall (it's not in the Bible), I do know that Noah experienced much greater miracles than that.
@@johnirwin7979
The six days can be read as six months or even six thousand years.
This is beautifully blasphemous. Too good to share. I don’t want to annoy my annoying friends who believe in this nonsense. lol. I also did at one point, but always questioned it much to the annoyance of my pastor who tricked me out of my mortgage money by telling me God will give me more if I handed over to help build a bigger church to make room for the expanding congregation. Eventually I was smart enough to leave after publishing two books that further annoyed the pastor.
Best challenge to religion that I have seen. Astounding that people swallow the rubbish that holy man and books espouse. What a shame that Islam is too dangerous to poke fun at.
I love the first two chapters of 2 Kings, where "thou shalt not kill" God kills 102 men and 42 children ❤😂 #ReligionIsFiction
It was Ursa major and Ursa minor, the two she bears who thrashed the 42 children aka stars in Gemini.
@@harveywabbit9541 you are delusional
It's "thou shall not kill", not "God shall not kill" and there's a reason for it. Dunno what you're trying to say...
@@malyvo0 "Thou shalt not kill." - Exodus 20:13 King James version.
We are atheists, because we actually do read the entire Bible, cover to cover, sometimes more than once. #ReligionIsFiction
@@garya.fowler3514 and yet you don't have anything interesting to say apparently.
I. People who don’t want to hear a message will try to find some way to discredit either the messenger or the message
A. If there is a perceived flaw, then they feel justified in tossing out everything they don’t want to accept
B. Atheists and Muslims do this with the Bible
1. Neither group wants to accept the possibility that Jesus is God
2. One way they tackle the problem is to find differences between the gospel accounts and claim these are contradictions
Any evidence a god exists?
@fibonacimike4110 Yeah, just look around you.
@@kac0404 i see a book and a ipad. How are those evidence a god exists?
Thank you for your service. ❤
I may not believe in a god, but I'm hopeful that we don't just cease. I like to think that our brains aren't generators, but are an interface. When I see a child prodigy play music like a person who has practiced for years, I think, "reincarnation might be a thing".
The internet provides some life after death to our thinking.
Truly, Atheism is a faith. And without doubt, upon careful examination, it would seem that it takes more faith to be an Atheist than it does to be a Christian. Paul wrote, "since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things which are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse" (Romans 1:20). The world which we live in declares on a daily basis, God Is. If one is sincere in their search, they cannot help but come to the conclusion that there is an eternal God, who is Creator of all.
Atheism isn't a faith. The word itself says it. You don't have to believe ANYTHING to be an atheist. It takes ignorance and denial to be a Christian.
Stop projecting.
in critique of her responses to theology, she’s very reasonable, rational, and properly emotional in the serious moments. The tribalism past is very anachronistic, superstitious, and manipulative. And the holy texts are their devices.
Logic is religion's worst enemy.
_Logic is religion's worst enemy._
Try this for flying in the face of logic: atheists say everything comes from nothing. There's no greater miracle in the Bible. I don't have enough faith to believe that.
Julia's mistake was to spend time actually reading the Bible.
I got dragged to Sunday School and church through high school, but it never took. In the year before I met The Bride I dated 50 women. Several had endured 12 years of Catholic education and every one was an atheist.
respectfully, FIFTY???
Yep. eHarmony THREW women at me. Every damn day, just about. Some got mad because I didn't get to them quickly enough to suit them. Probably 40 were one and done, there were three that lasted for four months. They ended when they demanded permanent status. Four months isn't enough to make that kind of decision.
The Bride didn't make any demands, we got married about two years after we met.
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thanks
The reason that Atheists and other religionists put so much energy into trying to proselytize, is the rush and reassurance of being agreed with. If someone is confident in their belief system, they don't need that. So, they don't involve themselves in arguments or circle-jerks about it. But you be you.
The bible is a horror story and someone needs to actually turn it into a horror film.
That's something I'd watch
pass. there are way better stories than the bible
You might be interested in Mother! with Jennifer Lawrence and Vavier Jardem.
@NickGagnon-u1v
Yeah it definitely would, it's funny how Christians really don't want their favourite story told honestly.
A favorite verse among the fundamentalist Christians is 2 Timothy 3:16. In translations from the most corrupt periods of Christian history, it reads: "All scriptures are inspired by God and are profitable for teaching," etc. And the fundies teach that this means every word in the bible is absolutely true history. In translations from another era when Christians were being heavily persecuted and trying to keep the "Word" from being destroyed, it says : "All scriptures that are inspired by God are profitable," etc. Possibly to state agreement with the Greek philosophers who used the work of Aesop and Homer as their foundation for education, claiming these works were inspired by God which was their custom for 500 years, more or less.
Furthermore, in 1 Timothy 1:4 and Titus 1:14, Paul is clearly advising that Christians should not pay attention to the Jewish fables or myths and endless genealogies; which is what much of the book of Genesis seems to be. Clearly, there is a very limited study, by the fundies of the book they call God's word.
But, in spite of this, the majority of them are some of the most honest and decent people that you will ever meet; maybe not the smartest.
adam and lillith were created at the same time the bible choose not to include the Lilith story, i guess equality wasn't an issue then. but the story is still around thank crom.
I’ve been working on deconstructing for some time. It’s hard because of the guilt and indoctrination; however, my parents thought it was the right thing to do. I’m a work in progress and so glad to have landed on Julia’s presentation. I always thought the bible was a bunch of psychotic chaos!
Everyone is born atheist.
Religion has to be taught.
Atheism doesn't have to be taught.
Racism seems to follow that as well. Hmmmm🤔🤔🤔🤔
Absolutely! When I'm asked why I "left x-tianity to BECOME an atheist," I always respond..."I didn't become an atheist, I was born an atheist, and I left my x-tian indoctrination to RETURN to my natural, human state of atheism."
Usually just gets blank stares, but I enjoy correcting people's misunderstanding...
actually the bible sates we are born into sin, separated from God, so it is incumbent on Man to respond to the good news of CHRIST and Choose relationship with GOD. ie Seek ye first the kingdom of God....
@, how do you not understand that you’re holy book of fairytales is utterly meaningless to an atheist?
Put another way, I don’t give a merry fuck what the bible says! I’ve studied it for 30 years as an evangelical x-tian and as an atheist, and it is 100% man contrived and fake as all fuck!
“The Bible says…” 😆😂🤣
@supercooge
When people stop obeying, enrolling, teaching, learning, supporting, promoting, participating and funding religion; religion will cease to exist. Regardless of the religion.
Christopher Hitchens: "Religion is manmade."
Excellent presentation. Nothing but the truth.
Jesus is the truth .
@ Nothing but stories with absolutely no verifiable evidence.
FAITH: an excuse to believe without evidence.
@@RobertStambaugh-l5r "Jesus" is about 50 different guys as depicted in the New Testament. Get reading skills.
Whatever .
@ That’s what they all say when losing
I cannot say that reading the bible made me an atheist. I was already well along the atheist path before I read. However, after reading it I incredibly satisfied that I had made the right choice. It is the one thing that I urge christians to do, and I specify that they read it in its entirety. Not just the cherry picked parts that they hear in church. All of it, cover to cover.
To better understand Christianity consider historian Hyam Maccoby's books Revolution In Judaea and The Mythmaker, Paul And The Invention Of Christianity, where he points out Paul invented Christianity at a time when the Romans made it a capital offense for anyone to advocate anything positive of Judaism. So Christianity is a systematic defilement of the OT. For example, God choosing for the mother of his only begotten child a woman betrothed to another, declared an abomination in Deut 22: 23.
@@joefriendly So, Luke is a prophet? (Knowing neither you or Hyam Maccoby have actually read the Bible, you won't get it, but trust me it's funny!)
I lost interest in religion by hearing a pastor saying that the reason the African continent is in its current state is that the inhabitants do not have the Christian god.
Go look into some history and see what mainland Europe did to strip and lay bare what we see of Africa today.
What's he talking about? Does he not know about the demographics of his own religion in Africa? or the role his ancestors played in making damn sure of that? He should come see the multitude of Africans who day in day out pray to God for everything, as he is their last hope. How dare he?
Oh yeah....Africa was so prosperous and advanced before the Europeans came. And after the Europeans left, it just skyrocketed in wealth, safety, and good governance.
@@JasonYork-b3i so you don't know anything about African history then. thanks for the admission.
Let's see we gave them phones cars electricity running water air travel. And?
Sewer systems, Good deal for them
Dey wuz kangz n sheet!!! Until dat ebil hwyte mang came n stole e'rythang!!!!1!
Amen, sister!
Best debunk the Buybull and Christianity video I have seen. no way I could return to the SDA Church or any other brand
Buybull haha
Very witty n worth listening! Well said my lady!