I just came here from the channel of Lucas Bender (who mentions you on his page), and I found this video to be quite informative! I could see why these "parties" (pseudo-parties?) could be considered wacky: a "Social Democratic Party" that isn't social democratic, a religion that owns a party, a "General Association" with a very long name, and a "National Democratic Front" that pretends to be a South Korean party... all under the leadership of a leadership-oriented party! Thanks for the information. Subscribed!
Wow, thanks! This video is from back when I made videos with PowerPoint! 😂😂 I'm not as polished as Lucas yet, but I'm so glad you liked it! And thanks for the sub!
For those who think it's weird that a civic group like Chongryon has seats in assembly, which it is, but, North Korea is not the only country that did this. East Germany did the same thing on steroids by giving several civic groups, such as their equivalent of our AFL-CIO, a farmers' union, their Marxist-Leninist YMCA, a women's league, and cultural heritage group (Yes, I'm using descriptions of what they are instead of their real names, because, it's funnier that way.), all seats in the Volkshammer, their Parliament to make it look like the SED didn't have that much control, despite the SED having direct control over all of these groups. Now, they certainly did a better job at that than the WPK in North Korea has ever done, since they clearly have a supermajority in the Supreme People's Assembly, making it not so subtle how much of a monopoly on power they currently have, as the SED was at least better at subtlety.
Fun fact: Juche literally means "subject", as in, the subject of the party's ideology; it was originally a word used to essentially declare the Korean revolution as separate from the chinese and russian revolutions. So yes, it really does just mean to do whatever the party wants.
@@FredoRockwell A tad bit more info: the current meaning of Juche is actually divorced from this original meaning, and now refers to a more specific idea about mutual trust between the people and the party. If you ask a person from NK what Juche means to them, they'll answer in terms of this modern meaning. The explanation I gave above is etymological.
@@whatno5090you're all completely wrong (which is not directly your fault due to western propaganda), Juche means directly "self reliance" which is one of the guiding paths of the Juche philosophy which in itself is multifaceted ideology based on dialectical and historical materialism but at the same time recognises its limitations and has grown further in order to adapt to the conditions of the Korean revolution. Effectively it is little more than the name of the ideology itself nothing "scary" or "evil", just the same as capitalism, Marxism-Leninism etc..
@@HabibiLenin17 I never really said that it was scary or evil, and I wasn't commenting on it's current usage and meaning within North korea. All I was trying to explain was the original usage of the word, which has drifted in meaning to become the modern sense. At no point did I claim anything at all was scary.
There are not 4, but 3 political parties in the Supreme People's Assembly: 1) Workers' Party of Korea 2) Social Democratic Party of Korea 3) Korean Party of Friends of the Heavenly Way. This is an analogue of the Christian Democratic Union of Germany, only closer to social Christianity. The United Democratic Patriotic Front and the Association of Korean Citizens in Japan are not political parties. North Korea is definitely not a dictatorship, but a democracy. Candidates for deputies are nominated by the citizens themselves in labor and housing collectives. They can be called back at any time. Deputies work on orders from voters. The powers of Kim Jong-un are significantly less than the powers of the presidents of the parliamentary republics. North Korea is a super-parliamentary republic. The leaders of the DPRK are: 1) Chairmen of the Standing Committee of the Supreme People's Assembly from 1948 to 1971: - Kim Tu-bong - Choe Yong-gon - Paik Nam-woon 2) Chairmen of the Central People's Committee from 1971 to 1998: - Kim Il-sung - Park Seong-cheol (Acting) 3) Chairman of the Standing Committee of the Supreme People's Assembly from 1998 to 2009: - Kim Young-nam 4) Chairmen of the State Defense Committee from 2009 to 2016: - Kim Jong-il - Kim Jong-un 5) Chairman of the State Affairs Committee from 2016: - Kim Jong-un Juche means subject. This is the development of Marxist ideology. In short, this means that humanity transforms nature at its own discretion and is its own master. Without such a worldview, there can be no democracy. The list of government members in the funeral commission has nothing to do with the importance of officials in the political hierarchy. Ryu Mi-young this is an example of a frequent escape from dictatorial South Korea to democratic North Korea. This is also the issue of freedom of religion in the DPRK. If, as you say, no one believes in democracy in North Korea, then why should it artificially support a multi-party system? You already have alogism here. Since no one believes, but there is a multi-party system, then political parties in the DPRK exist naturally, and not artificially. In fact, the DPRK is least of all interested in the opinion of the layman from Europe or the United States.
Hi, thanks for watching, and thanks - I guess - for being the first pro-North Korea troll to grace my channel. I didn't think I would rate such attention. I don't know if you actually watched the video, but I didn't say that the United Democratic Patriotic Front and the Association of Korean Citizens in Japan are political parties. As for your question about how North Korea could have multiple parties and not be a democracy, North Korea's parties other than the Workers Party are "blockparties," a concept first pioneered by East Germany (as far as I know) in which sockpuppet political parties are used to add a veneer of democratic respectability to a dictatorial system - except East Germany's fake parties were much more convincing than the North Korean knock-offs. But I think you know this. And I also think you know that your claims that North Korea is free and democratic are spurious. If you don't know this, and I guess there is a chance your comment is sincere, then I urge you to seek professional help. Honestly. You need to get help and if you don't people around you might get hurt. Get help please.
@@FredoRockwell Thanks for the answer. According to him, I realized that the liberal is not good at conducting democratic discussions. To the topic. Firstly, you clearly said in the video about 4 political parties. But there are 3 political parties in North Korea. Secondly, there was no concept of "blockparties" in the socialist countries. The United Democratic Patriotic Front was created long before the creation of the GDR. It is an example of a political coalition of communist, socialist and democratic parties known as the "popular front". Popular fronts were created in Europe during the war against Nazi Germany and in Asia during the struggle against Japan. At the moment, there are such coalitions not only in the DPRK, but also in China, Vietnam, Laos, Venezuela and a number of other countries. These coalitions exist to achieve common goals. In Korea, this is the reunification of the country. As you can see, I know Korea much more than the propagandists you read. Thirdly, about the democratic nature of the DPRK and the undemocratic nature of Europe and the United States, you can see for yourself by checking whether American and European voters can recall their deputy at any time (imperative mandate), whether they can give instructions to their deputies and whether they can nominate candidates for deputies and presidents in work teams. By the way, fake parties exist. A striking example is the "Democratic Party" and the "Republican Party" of the United States.
@@alkor17 In the UK where I live, it is certainly possible to recall MPs. It happens fairly frequently. Not as often as North Koreans are shipped off to concentration camps, but more frequently than Chairman Kim assassinates a member of his family for political disloyalty.
@@FredoRockwell Which court proved the involvement of the DPRK in the assassination of Kim Jong-nam? Why does North Korea need it? I would rather believe that Edward Kennedy killed president Kennedy)))) Liberals very often call opponents criminals without trial or investigation. I immediately remember the old Biden, who called Putin a “murderer”. Do you think English prisons are better than forced labor camps in Korea? Do not make me laugh.
When it comes to respecting my human rights, I would rather try my luck in an English prison than anywhere in the prison known as the DPRK. At least in an English prison the system has the honesty to tell you you're in prison, whereas the citizens of North Korea are told they are free when the opposite is true
We should respect the political system of each country as long as it is indigenous to the people. But if you assume that your understanding of democracy is universal, you repeat the colonial mistake of the past.
I don't think a brutal dictatorship is any less deserving of condemnation because it's somehow "indigenous." This argument has been the refuge of autocrats for over a century now and I think it's pretty well discredited. But there are lots of diverse forms of democracy, and as long as the democracy is genuine and is accompanied by basic human rights, I'm happy to respect it and would encourage everyone to. Somaliland is a good example.
@@FredoRockwell A dictator is one man. It takes an entire army of people to keep him in power. You may not agree with the system, but you must let them have what they think works for them. People generally deserves the government they get. If a nation with an army of more than 1 million people don't want to kick out a fat chain-smoking dictator from office, who are we to say they should? People deserves the government they get. We should respect that. Moreover, remember, if he is kicked out, someone worse will most likely take his place.
@@FredoRockwell A people generally deserves the government they get, so long as that government is of their own making. We must respect that. When the people are fed up, they will rise and change their government. But if we continue our interventionist attitude to foreign political systems, we will continue to create more failed states as in the past. See Libya.
@Jlius Public criticism of tyranny is not foreign intervention. Also, the implication that the individual people of North Korea somehow deserve their plight is repugnant.
@@FredoRockwell You mistake my point. I don't mean that they deserve their plight. Let's look at it this way: even in America, there are people in prisons wrongly, people who have been lynched and executed wrongly, people who have spent decades in jail due to official misconduct, there are people homeless, drug addicts, destitutes, living out on the streets, etc. We cannot claim that democracy in America is awesome if we only look at such incidences. A people should be allowed to work through their own system and come up with what they can live with, taking cognizance of their history and tradition. We must not be quick to judge a people because they rule by a different means than ours.
It's a very good video, i have no idea if you are thinking on uploading more, but you make a good job!
Thank you! I just uploaded a new one today.
I just came here from the channel of Lucas Bender (who mentions you on his page), and I found this video to be quite informative! I could see why these "parties" (pseudo-parties?) could be considered wacky: a "Social Democratic Party" that isn't social democratic, a religion that owns a party, a "General Association" with a very long name, and a "National Democratic Front" that pretends to be a South Korean party... all under the leadership of a leadership-oriented party! Thanks for the information. Subscribed!
Wow, thanks! This video is from back when I made videos with PowerPoint! 😂😂 I'm not as polished as Lucas yet, but I'm so glad you liked it! And thanks for the sub!
Underrated channel
Thanks!
Very interesting video
Glad you liked it!
Should you remake this video now the Democratic Front for the Reunification of Korea disbanded this year
For those who think it's weird that a civic group like Chongryon has seats in assembly, which it is, but, North Korea is not the only country that did this. East Germany did the same thing on steroids by giving several civic groups, such as their equivalent of our AFL-CIO, a farmers' union, their Marxist-Leninist YMCA, a women's league, and cultural heritage group (Yes, I'm using descriptions of what they are instead of their real names, because, it's funnier that way.), all seats in the Volkshammer, their Parliament to make it look like the SED didn't have that much control, despite the SED having direct control over all of these groups. Now, they certainly did a better job at that than the WPK in North Korea has ever done, since they clearly have a supermajority in the Supreme People's Assembly, making it not so subtle how much of a monopoly on power they currently have, as the SED was at least better at subtlety.
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Fun fact: Juche literally means "subject", as in, the subject of the party's ideology; it was originally a word used to essentially declare the Korean revolution as separate from the chinese and russian revolutions.
So yes, it really does just mean to do whatever the party wants.
That's really interesting - and something I've never heard before. Thanks for sharing that!
@@FredoRockwell A tad bit more info: the current meaning of Juche is actually divorced from this original meaning, and now refers to a more specific idea about mutual trust between the people and the party.
If you ask a person from NK what Juche means to them, they'll answer in terms of this modern meaning. The explanation I gave above is etymological.
@@whatno5090you're all completely wrong (which is not directly your fault due to western propaganda), Juche means directly "self reliance" which is one of the guiding paths of the Juche philosophy which in itself is multifaceted ideology based on dialectical and historical materialism but at the same time recognises its limitations and has grown further in order to adapt to the conditions of the Korean revolution. Effectively it is little more than the name of the ideology itself nothing "scary" or "evil", just the same as capitalism, Marxism-Leninism etc..
@@HabibiLenin17 I never really said that it was scary or evil, and I wasn't commenting on it's current usage and meaning within North korea. All I was trying to explain was the original usage of the word, which has drifted in meaning to become the modern sense. At no point did I claim anything at all was scary.
There are not 4, but 3 political parties in the Supreme People's Assembly:
1) Workers' Party of Korea
2) Social Democratic Party of Korea
3) Korean Party of Friends of the Heavenly Way. This is an analogue of the Christian Democratic Union of Germany, only closer to social Christianity.
The United Democratic Patriotic Front and the Association of Korean Citizens in Japan are not political parties.
North Korea is definitely not a dictatorship, but a democracy. Candidates for deputies are nominated by the citizens themselves in labor and housing collectives. They can be called back at any time. Deputies work on orders from voters. The powers of Kim Jong-un are significantly less than the powers of the presidents of the parliamentary republics. North Korea is a super-parliamentary republic.
The leaders of the DPRK are:
1) Chairmen of the Standing Committee of the Supreme People's Assembly from 1948 to 1971:
- Kim Tu-bong
- Choe Yong-gon
- Paik Nam-woon
2) Chairmen of the Central People's Committee from 1971 to 1998:
- Kim Il-sung
- Park Seong-cheol (Acting)
3) Chairman of the Standing Committee of the Supreme People's Assembly from 1998 to 2009:
- Kim Young-nam
4) Chairmen of the State Defense Committee from 2009 to 2016:
- Kim Jong-il
- Kim Jong-un
5) Chairman of the State Affairs Committee from 2016:
- Kim Jong-un
Juche means subject. This is the development of Marxist ideology. In short, this means that humanity transforms nature at its own discretion and is its own master. Without such a worldview, there can be no democracy.
The list of government members in the funeral commission has nothing to do with the importance of officials in the political hierarchy.
Ryu Mi-young this is an example of a frequent escape from dictatorial South Korea to democratic North Korea. This is also the issue of freedom of religion in the DPRK.
If, as you say, no one believes in democracy in North Korea, then why should it artificially support a multi-party system? You already have alogism here. Since no one believes, but there is a multi-party system, then political parties in the DPRK exist naturally, and not artificially. In fact, the DPRK is least of all interested in the opinion of the layman from Europe or the United States.
Hi, thanks for watching, and thanks - I guess - for being the first pro-North Korea troll to grace my channel. I didn't think I would rate such attention. I don't know if you actually watched the video, but I didn't say that the United Democratic Patriotic Front and the Association of Korean Citizens in Japan are political parties. As for your question about how North Korea could have multiple parties and not be a democracy, North Korea's parties other than the Workers Party are "blockparties," a concept first pioneered by East Germany (as far as I know) in which sockpuppet political parties are used to add a veneer of democratic respectability to a dictatorial system - except East Germany's fake parties were much more convincing than the North Korean knock-offs. But I think you know this. And I also think you know that your claims that North Korea is free and democratic are spurious. If you don't know this, and I guess there is a chance your comment is sincere, then I urge you to seek professional help. Honestly. You need to get help and if you don't people around you might get hurt. Get help please.
@@FredoRockwell Thanks for the answer. According to him, I realized that the liberal is not good at conducting democratic discussions.
To the topic. Firstly, you clearly said in the video about 4 political parties. But there are 3 political parties in North Korea.
Secondly, there was no concept of "blockparties" in the socialist countries. The United Democratic Patriotic Front was created long before the creation of the GDR. It is an example of a political coalition of communist, socialist and democratic parties known as the "popular front". Popular fronts were created in Europe during the war against Nazi Germany and in Asia during the struggle against Japan. At the moment, there are such coalitions not only in the DPRK, but also in China, Vietnam, Laos, Venezuela and a number of other countries. These coalitions exist to achieve common goals. In Korea, this is the reunification of the country. As you can see, I know Korea much more than the propagandists you read.
Thirdly, about the democratic nature of the DPRK and the undemocratic nature of Europe and the United States, you can see for yourself by checking whether American and European voters can recall their deputy at any time (imperative mandate), whether they can give instructions to their deputies and whether they can nominate candidates for deputies and presidents in work teams.
By the way, fake parties exist. A striking example is the "Democratic Party" and the "Republican Party" of the United States.
@@alkor17 In the UK where I live, it is certainly possible to recall MPs. It happens fairly frequently. Not as often as North Koreans are shipped off to concentration camps, but more frequently than Chairman Kim assassinates a member of his family for political disloyalty.
@@FredoRockwell Which court proved the involvement of the DPRK in the assassination of Kim Jong-nam? Why does North Korea need it? I would rather believe that Edward Kennedy killed president Kennedy)))) Liberals very often call opponents criminals without trial or investigation. I immediately remember the old Biden, who called Putin a “murderer”.
Do you think English prisons are better than forced labor camps in Korea? Do not make me laugh.
When it comes to respecting my human rights, I would rather try my luck in an English prison than anywhere in the prison known as the DPRK. At least in an English prison the system has the honesty to tell you you're in prison, whereas the citizens of North Korea are told they are free when the opposite is true
We should respect the political system of each country as long as it is indigenous to the people. But if you assume that your understanding of democracy is universal, you repeat the colonial mistake of the past.
I don't think a brutal dictatorship is any less deserving of condemnation because it's somehow "indigenous." This argument has been the refuge of autocrats for over a century now and I think it's pretty well discredited. But there are lots of diverse forms of democracy, and as long as the democracy is genuine and is accompanied by basic human rights, I'm happy to respect it and would encourage everyone to. Somaliland is a good example.
@@FredoRockwell A dictator is one man. It takes an entire army of people to keep him in power. You may not agree with the system, but you must let them have what they think works for them. People generally deserves the government they get.
If a nation with an army of more than 1 million people don't want to kick out a fat chain-smoking dictator from office, who are we to say they should? People deserves the government they get. We should respect that.
Moreover, remember, if he is kicked out, someone worse will most likely take his place.
@@FredoRockwell A people generally deserves the government they get, so long as that government is of their own making. We must respect that. When the people are fed up, they will rise and change their government. But if we continue our interventionist attitude to foreign political systems, we will continue to create more failed states as in the past. See Libya.
@Jlius Public criticism of tyranny is not foreign intervention. Also, the implication that the individual people of North Korea somehow deserve their plight is repugnant.
@@FredoRockwell You mistake my point. I don't mean that they deserve their plight. Let's look at it this way: even in America, there are people in prisons wrongly, people who have been lynched and executed wrongly, people who have spent decades in jail due to official misconduct, there are people homeless, drug addicts, destitutes, living out on the streets, etc. We cannot claim that democracy in America is awesome if we only look at such incidences.
A people should be allowed to work through their own system and come up with what they can live with, taking cognizance of their history and tradition. We must not be quick to judge a people because they rule by a different means than ours.
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Can you do a video on the south korean woman party leader that defected north
That's not a story I know about, but I'll look into it for sure. Thanks for the suggestion!
She is the leader of the Chondoist party (the main religious party in DPRK)