I managed to get the Xbox 360 Pad in the controls and it plays great. The game really needs a seamless thrust control like the gamepad trigger (or paddles). I believe that on the PS2 this would had more fans. I think in a game of enjoying the flight is a limitation with fuel (basically time) wrong, I mostly wanted a low fuel consumption.
It always bothered me that you played through most of the game with the hopper when there are all these other landers. I think it's awesome you modded this 25 year old game
The mouse?! I think used a Roccat pyra for this video, but it might have been a logitech pro hero (which I use nowadays). I can easily reproduce this play with a pro hero, so consider that mouse a currently-purchasable bit of hardware that is suited. I'm not sure mouse has much to do with the playability of the game, but I hope this info helps! (Mouse selection is a big thing in Starcraft, which I enjoy playing a lot. Rest assured, a logitech pro hero is a great mouse for most people. (I'm not sure whether it's ideal if your hands are massive; mine are very small compared to most gamers, but I've heard good things across the board!))
@@xxxxSylphxxxx I only recommend disabling mouse acceleration. I got one very old utility called mparam, wich disabling mouse acseleration wich is present in every Windows started from WindowsXP, in every game you run. Sens I got mparam for my games there was gone a lot of time, so I don't now how to find out mparam now in Internet. mparam is extremely useful for Unreal, Half-Life, Lander and so on, in every old game.
@@Gigagamer74 Interesting.. In recent windows version, I've always found the control panel mouse options to be sufficient for removing mouse acceleration (control panel -> change mouse settings -> pointer options -> deactivate enhance pointer precision. ) Not that I turned it off while playing lander, iirc. That being said, I *did* produce a version of this "Lander-Harder" (rebalancing & extra challenge) mod that did NOT remove the auto-level key, in case it got in the way of certain control choices like joysticks and the like. It can be found here: mega.nz/file/0xl3CbwS#_vQlw4LR6P_L7lC25FHG7wLhga1ex_exe0qSgzWwhz8 (As usual, virus scanners need to be pointed away from it, since it modifies a running process (lander.exe) to do its work!) I'd love to know if you ever got a chance to give this mod a try! I found it a *ton* of fun for revisiting this classic psygnosis game, and you're one of the players that I felt might enjoy it! (I've been in awe of your lander control method when watching your videos, and made a 'no auto-level removal' version of this mod just in case players like you, with your insanely innovate controllers, require the auto-level key! Check out this video description! :D)
@@xxxxSylphxxxx I always knew that Windows xp, 7, 10, 11 do not completely remove mouse acceleration using standard control panel tools (via "remove high cursor precision" in the control panel). It seemed to me that the mouse acceleration that is always present in these Windows is insignificant and that you can play with it. But after playing a little with the mparam utility turned on, which completely removes acceleration, I was convinced that the complete absence of acceleration is much better. The only thing I would like from your cheat is that the fuel would never run out and invulnerability. I like to create challenges for myself in the game in some places of the level where you have to fly for a long time. Unfortunately, the fuel and protective shield restrictions do not allow me to train in these places for a long time and I have to constantly start the level over again, so that I can fly to the right place.
@@Gigagamer74 "The only thing I would like from your cheat is... Infinite fuel, invulnerability" Wow, do you find the game too hard? I kinda figure it's such a ridiculously easy game, that the obvious step forwards is a greater challenge, not an easier one! FWIW, I should clarify that this isn't just a 'cheat'. It features thousands of lines of code, written in assembly, focused on making the games more challenging for veterans that have exhausted the basic game. Essentially, it's the very opposite of a cheat! Still, if what you want is an easier lander, then I'm sorry to have wasted your time! This is for lander veterans seeking 'the next challenge' after getting too good for the basic game.
I imagine it'll work fine in XP - I think I first played it on ME! (argh!) As to where to get it - consider it close to abandonware now, there's little chance of being able to buy it.
I managed to get the Xbox 360 Pad in the controls and it plays great. The game really needs a seamless thrust control like the gamepad trigger (or paddles). I believe that on the PS2 this would had more fans.
I think in a game of enjoying the flight is a limitation with fuel (basically time) wrong, I mostly wanted a low fuel consumption.
Links to this 'hard mode' mod in video description.
It always bothered me that you played through most of the game with the hopper when there are all these other landers. I think it's awesome you modded this 25 year old game
Can you tell me the name of the mouse you used to play Lander?
The mouse?!
I think used a Roccat pyra for this video, but it might have been a logitech pro hero (which I use nowadays). I can easily reproduce this play with a pro hero, so consider that mouse a currently-purchasable bit of hardware that is suited.
I'm not sure mouse has much to do with the playability of the game, but I hope this info helps!
(Mouse selection is a big thing in Starcraft, which I enjoy playing a lot. Rest assured, a logitech pro hero is a great mouse for most people. (I'm not sure whether it's ideal if your hands are massive; mine are very small compared to most gamers, but I've heard good things across the board!))
@@xxxxSylphxxxx I only recommend disabling mouse acceleration. I got one very old utility called mparam, wich disabling mouse acseleration wich is present in every Windows started from WindowsXP, in every game you run. Sens I got mparam for my games there was gone a lot of time, so I don't now how to find out mparam now in Internet. mparam is extremely useful for Unreal, Half-Life, Lander and so on, in every old game.
@@Gigagamer74 Interesting..
In recent windows version, I've always found the control panel mouse options to be sufficient for removing mouse acceleration (control panel -> change mouse settings -> pointer options -> deactivate enhance pointer precision. ) Not that I turned it off while playing lander, iirc.
That being said, I *did* produce a version of this "Lander-Harder" (rebalancing & extra challenge) mod that did NOT remove the auto-level key, in case it got in the way of certain control choices like joysticks and the like. It can be found here: mega.nz/file/0xl3CbwS#_vQlw4LR6P_L7lC25FHG7wLhga1ex_exe0qSgzWwhz8
(As usual, virus scanners need to be pointed away from it, since it modifies a running process (lander.exe) to do its work!)
I'd love to know if you ever got a chance to give this mod a try! I found it a *ton* of fun for revisiting this classic psygnosis game, and you're one of the players that I felt might enjoy it! (I've been in awe of your lander control method when watching your videos, and made a 'no auto-level removal' version of this mod just in case players like you, with your insanely innovate controllers, require the auto-level key! Check out this video description! :D)
@@xxxxSylphxxxx I always knew that Windows xp, 7, 10, 11 do not completely remove mouse acceleration using standard control panel tools (via "remove high cursor precision" in the control panel). It seemed to me that the mouse acceleration that is always present in these Windows is insignificant and that you can play with it. But after playing a little with the mparam utility turned on, which completely removes acceleration, I was convinced that the complete absence of acceleration is much better.
The only thing I would like from your cheat is that the fuel would never run out and invulnerability. I like to create challenges for myself in the game in some places of the level where you have to fly for a long time. Unfortunately, the fuel and protective shield restrictions do not allow me to train in these places for a long time and I have to constantly start the level over again, so that I can fly to the right place.
@@Gigagamer74 "The only thing I would like from your cheat is... Infinite fuel, invulnerability"
Wow, do you find the game too hard?
I kinda figure it's such a ridiculously easy game, that the obvious step forwards is a greater challenge, not an easier one!
FWIW, I should clarify that this isn't just a 'cheat'. It features thousands of lines of code, written in assembly, focused on making the games more challenging for veterans that have exhausted the basic game. Essentially, it's the very opposite of a cheat! Still, if what you want is an easier lander, then I'm sorry to have wasted your time! This is for lander veterans seeking 'the next challenge' after getting too good for the basic game.
Where you can find this game? It works in XP?
I imagine it'll work fine in XP - I think I first played it on ME! (argh!)
As to where to get it - consider it close to abandonware now, there's little chance of being able to buy it.