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I smiled so much! I'm glad you liked it! I forgot I'd even uploaded this! Is was a birthday 'card' for my brother! (It recognises the specials without a computer)

@@playstationsimracing1108 Thankyou! I prefer this video: th-cam.com/video/zwUrULSn4aQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=e1sA2o9IdrvWeCsA Because it demonstrates a more difficult 'lander', and the mod that makes it difficult!

@@playstationsimracing1108 oh, and do you use twitch? I've been meaning to revisit some lander if people want it live... Http://www.twitch.tv/sylph_h

@@xxxxSylphxxxx Not really xd

'Light years'? Are you the one in charge of whether minigames get hidden inside enemy ships? Because I have feelings... :D

Oh, really? Is there a date? I love to stream twitchy games and have a huge soft-spot for many amiga titles, project X very much included! (I'll give it a google, thanks for the heads-up)

@xxxxSylphxxxx its for PC and demo is available on Steam

Hi there!!! Take this with a pinch of salt, I haven't played for *ages*, and my memory can be super-fuzzy; often remembering dreams without knowing they're dreams and such! IIRC, I found it easier to press attack once and reload twice, there was some reason I eventually chose to learn to do without.... But pressing reload twice will be easier to 'get started' with learning. I think there are 2 reload animations for the sword (crazy!). You can 'force' the second reload animation by pressing reload twice, but there's some downside (maybe it locks out your attack/further reloads/items or something?). Or this could all be another blonde moment! Haha! Maybe full reload is just better! Regarding the actual motion, the short-short version (for anyone else reading, I know you already have this part) is that you swipe the mouse across the screen, trying to go over your gungeoneers head. While swiping, you attack and immediately reload, trying to time the reload exactly when your mouse is closest to the gungeoneer. The area hit by sword will be a massive arc, starting just in front of the hero on the side your mouse started, circling around and growing in range as it spirals around the side your pointer went overhead on, and ends up going out further (ie the range keeps expanding throughout a ~160degree arc, from point-blank to fullscreen. Ok, now the particulars you asked for! : I personally have reload bound to 'r'. I've met a pad player than can acheive it consistently too, and they believed it was easier on pad - I can kindof understand why, but pad is such an alien control method for my little hands! I think the more important part is ensuring that reload and attack are on different hands. After re-watching that video my muscle memory instantly filled in how I was approaching it - I've have the mouse resting somewhere behind the 'battle line', and when I wanted to guard flash, I'd start my input with attack+movemouse. Ie. not moving the mouse first then clicking when it was overhead.... so I'd press attack, then right after pressing attack I'd press reload. I think I wrote in a comment somewhere that it's really quick, like plinking in fighting games, but tbh I'm not sure about that, I think it's quite a bit slower! If you played any fighting games then great - try from 1 frame to 5 frames. I think it's in the region of about 3 frames between the attack and the reload. If you haven't played fighting games... It's almost as fast as you can. How long is almost?! Gah! Language fails here; I'd guess that there are plenty of people, probably most people who haven't played videogames lots, for whom the guard flash timing is *faster* than their fastest, but for a modern gamer it shouldn't be too hard before arthritis starts. ;) After this video was made, I actually got *better* at doing this, ending up really quite consistent eventually. I don't speedrun though, and speedrunning is probably the only place where guard flashes are really important. I just enjoyed gungeon, hated the sword, and wanted something more fun to do with it! Anyway, when I got better, I think I started going attack -> reload -> attack! (Bear in mind my ditzy memory, it could have been reload-attack-reload, which makes more sense, but my muscle memory really is telling me it was attack-reload-attack, and honestly she's far less prone to forgetfulness than I am! Haha!) I suppose I've typed an awful lot for what could have been as simple as "pointer behind gungeoneer, press attack -> reload -> attack as fast as you can while suddenly swiping mouse over gungeoneer's head." - I hope the extra words help rather than wasting your time. Above all, I'd note that it's *really* tight timing. I play a bit of street fighter 6, and it's about as hard as 1-frame links (which were removed from recent street fighter games for being too hard for anyone to do consistently. The minimum is 5 frames now!) Judging by the area covered by the 'flash' (it's not the entire screen, it varies, and seems to be a spiral arc shape), I know that the area hurt by this move is dependant on the player inputs, so it's hard to deny that sub-frame timing or the almost-analogue nature of cursor position/analogue stick is making it harder than just a link so... Ranty rant rant why don't you shut up Sylph? A good sanity check might be this: I was *easily* fully clearing the game (6 rat keys, advanced dragun etc) every time, WAY before I got any good at guard flashing without maxhp. And I only ever got about 80% consistent at it. I wouldn't call it a waste of time though - you have to use that sword sometimes anyway, and it was fun! Typing all these words might have been a waste of time, mind... Not mine, I love just talking at whatever wall hasn't gotten fed up of me yet! But I'm sorry if it wasted yours. [ You did ask, though! ;) ] <3

Thanks a ton for the detailed reply and the kind tone. I'll answer on reddit too.

@@Romibeno Extra note - I might well have been moving the mouse quite late. I just had a little memory pop up of trying to time it so that one buttonpress was on one side of gungeoneer, and the other was on the other (enemy) side. Less reliably, I would guess that it's attack-reload-attack as quickly as you can (all 3 within the same 1/10 of a second?), and trying to get the reload with the cursor on the 'safe' side, and the final attack's cursor on the 'hostile' side. I hope that's the silver bullet! And thanks for the thanks! I've ever so lovely when internet people are cool. x

I imagine it'll work fine in XP - I think I first played it on ME! (argh!) As to where to get it - consider it close to abandonware now, there's little chance of being able to buy it.

Starfighter:Infinity (available on steam) is this same game, but so, SO much better.

@@xxxxSylphxxxx heccing bet I'll get it

People do play damageless, but I'm not aware of anyone being able to do it for the entire game on the higher difficulty levels. I prefer to risk taking a little damage in order to deal more though - damageless play takes longer, and some challenges require specific traits to beat with a damageless character. But if you want to avoid damage altogether, you can. :)

I'd generally mix things up, raiding sub-stations, the occasional dive into a main base, and a little playing around with anomalies, iirc. I think starfighter infinity is *miles* better for rewarding attacks on 'proper' stations. I remember the shredder being one of the best ships for this purpose (the others were a slow aralian ship with good priximity weapons, and the aralian ship with a 'large' hitpoint that can still dogfight well) my faulty memory is suggesting 'defender' and 'enforcer', but I'm unsure. I *really* enjoy starfighter-infinity! I play it without being allowed to purchase any weapons or equipment - only build items using blueprints, or loot them from dead enemies (particularly non-player-races - all hail the tobor enhanced drive!). That challenge, which includes playing 'permadeath' rules, were a TON of fun for me, and I advise anyone to try it. I believe it's called the 'LD challenge. It must have taken me something like 20 characters before I got one to visit every sector. Great game, SO much fun!

PS, I remember damage field (bubble? whatever it's called - the one that deals damage around your ship) being a pretty important tool (requiring a proximity slot) Proximity blaster is well and good, but that damage field was the one that would kill LOADS of enemies, including turrets, for a low cost. It's a great way of making an ammo powerup work for your future even when all your weapons are fully loaded. I tried similar in starfighter infinity, but it wasn't the same until I found the hard-light 'buzzsaw' weapon - at which point I started finding all kinds of stealth shenanigans to have fun with. All that being said, the red xandalevium heat discs were my favourite weapon class in infinity! <3 Speaking of stealth - is the Tyraan Decoy still ridiculously good?

It's the 'general' route to get out of purgatory - one that works for all players. ULLDRURRUUULDLLU or ↑←←↓→↑→→↑↑↑←↓←←↑ (There's also another, shorter way through, but it's player-specific; found by visiting the shadow halls/cathedral (*after* visiting purgatory/medium or hard difficulty might also be required, I'm not sure? ))

I know! Haha! I felt guilty about it... (It's plastics - recyclins bins come fortnightly here.) Well spotted! (sorry mum!)

I'm *so* glad you got it working! If you end up wanting extra challenge, I made a 'hard' mod that rebalances everything in the game! : th-cam.com/video/zwUrULSn4aQ/w-d-xo.html Hope you enjoy your lander adventure! <3 (Weird that it didn't work one minute, then it worked the next! Crazy old games, eh?! :D )

@@xxxxSylphxxxx It's even more weird when you consider the amount of times I have tried to gete the game working over the years. I have downloaded the mod, I will complete this game un modded first before giving it ago. :D Thanks for putting this together!

@@hairyonions Very weird indeed! I hope you enjoy lander as much as I have! Good luck! <3 (ps. what's your processor?)

@@xxxxSylphxxxx I have a Intel i7 13700kf and a rtx 3080

P.S. Hope you are well. :)

Watched the video. I know how to get there now. Thank you! :) (Well at least I partly get it.)

Well done on surviving the harbinger!!! :)

I'm sure you realised by the end, but to answer with clarity - getting through purgatory and killing a harbinger unlocks inferno. You can either take the route in this video (this is the long route), or you can take a much shorter route, which is specific to your jupiter hell install. To find your 'short', personal route, check out the runes in the cathedral (difficulties above easy and maybe even normal night be required.)

Thanks for such kind words! I wrote a detailed guide on steam, but I think this video is perhaps a better 'introduction' for getting a win under your belt. I should perhaps mention that English subtitles on this video reveal all the things I forgot to mention. Anyway, glad it could shed some light for you! It's a wonderfully involved game. Good luck! x

It's *such* an amazing table! Endless fun! I'm going to have to have another crack at this soon.

@@xxxxSylphxxxx You rule 🤗

The mouse?! I think used a Roccat pyra for this video, but it might have been a logitech pro hero (which I use nowadays). I can easily reproduce this play with a pro hero, so consider that mouse a currently-purchasable bit of hardware that is suited. I'm not sure mouse has much to do with the playability of the game, but I hope this info helps! (Mouse selection is a big thing in Starcraft, which I enjoy playing a lot. Rest assured, a logitech pro hero is a great mouse for most people. (I'm not sure whether it's ideal if your hands are massive; mine are very small compared to most gamers, but I've heard good things across the board!))

@@xxxxSylphxxxx I only recommend disabling mouse acceleration. I got one very old utility called mparam, wich disabling mouse acseleration wich is present in every Windows started from WindowsXP, in every game you run. Sens I got mparam for my games there was gone a lot of time, so I don't now how to find out mparam now in Internet. mparam is extremely useful for Unreal, Half-Life, Lander and so on, in every old game.

@@Gigagamer74 Interesting.. In recent windows version, I've always found the control panel mouse options to be sufficient for removing mouse acceleration (control panel -> change mouse settings -> pointer options -> deactivate enhance pointer precision. ) Not that I turned it off while playing lander, iirc. That being said, I *did* produce a version of this "Lander-Harder" (rebalancing & extra challenge) mod that did NOT remove the auto-level key, in case it got in the way of certain control choices like joysticks and the like. It can be found here: mega.nz/file/0xl3CbwS#_vQlw4LR6P_L7lC25FHG7wLhga1ex_exe0qSgzWwhz8 (As usual, virus scanners need to be pointed away from it, since it modifies a running process (lander.exe) to do its work!) I'd love to know if you ever got a chance to give this mod a try! I found it a *ton* of fun for revisiting this classic psygnosis game, and you're one of the players that I felt might enjoy it! (I've been in awe of your lander control method when watching your videos, and made a 'no auto-level removal' version of this mod just in case players like you, with your insanely innovate controllers, require the auto-level key! Check out this video description! :D)

@@xxxxSylphxxxx I always knew that Windows xp, 7, 10, 11 do not completely remove mouse acceleration using standard control panel tools (via "remove high cursor precision" in the control panel). It seemed to me that the mouse acceleration that is always present in these Windows is insignificant and that you can play with it. But after playing a little with the mparam utility turned on, which completely removes acceleration, I was convinced that the complete absence of acceleration is much better. The only thing I would like from your cheat is that the fuel would never run out and invulnerability. I like to create challenges for myself in the game in some places of the level where you have to fly for a long time. Unfortunately, the fuel and protective shield restrictions do not allow me to train in these places for a long time and I have to constantly start the level over again, so that I can fly to the right place.

@@Gigagamer74 "The only thing I would like from your cheat is... Infinite fuel, invulnerability" Wow, do you find the game too hard? I kinda figure it's such a ridiculously easy game, that the obvious step forwards is a greater challenge, not an easier one! FWIW, I should clarify that this isn't just a 'cheat'. It features thousands of lines of code, written in assembly, focused on making the games more challenging for veterans that have exhausted the basic game. Essentially, it's the very opposite of a cheat! Still, if what you want is an easier lander, then I'm sorry to have wasted your time! This is for lander veterans seeking 'the next challenge' after getting too good for the basic game.

What do you mean by repair with multitools? Are you talking about just at a terminal or can you use them out of inventory or off the ground for repair? I've had some great runs go south because my armor broke and hadn't found a terminal to repair it in a few levels, but generally keep at least 3 multitools on me.

​@@Chrislk1986 You can indeed use multitools from inventory or the ground to repair 25% of your armour and helmet (more if you have the 'tech monitor' perk on your helmet)!

@Steve muller :Thanks for the positive feedback! I don't know whether you caught my more recent video, 'what you're doing wrong', but whether you did or not, I suspect that as an apocalypse player, you'll have a hard time finding much to help you! (The stuff about using shotguns/rockets outside visual range, bleeding warlocks to prevent healing, or diagonal cover to avoid enemy AOE attacks; are probably most likely to be stuff you might not have figured out solo.) I'll have to get back into some Jupiter Hell soon, it's such a fun game! Well done for playing apocalypse, too! That stuff is mental! :D

@@xxxxSylphxxxx I will definitely check out that video! (I know about shotguns outside visual range, and diagonal cover to avoid AOE, but I didn't know about bleeding preventing warlock healing! See I learned something already.) Something I wish that the game would reinstate: back in the day you had a chance with regular weapons to hit outside visual range, if the bullet/projectile passed over the square where the enemy is. Now it is impossible to hit anything you can't see except with rocket/shotgun splash, or grenades. I like the idea of hitting outside of visual range. It wastes more ammo, but it can keep you safe. That is a choice I think the player should have. Anyway, thanks for all your work!! Hope you are well. Blessings!

@@stevemuller3324 I miss the days off outside-LOS hits too! I guess as some consolation, I find that the enemy reaction times based on sensory input type ('standard/visual' senses give you give to aim if you pay attention) can be just as much fun!

I made some more recent videos. A new tips video, and a 'what you're doing wrong' playthrough. Both are linked in the guide I wrote here: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2714349654 Hope that helps someone!

I'm sorry about that! I've come a long way when it comes to my dodgy microphone, and next time I play some jupiter hell you can expect this to be much better. Thanks tons for the heads-up though - this kind of feedback is invaluable. x

Thankyou so much for the support! <3 You're correct about enemies killing one another, but I think here most of the XP discrepancy was down to fanatics. (And FWIW barbed > molten for sure IMO! :D ) I love the idea of a bigger group trying a run like this! Let's rush Jovian moons together! Our original idea was to play a horrendously high difficulty, and use 'resurrect' (sending over savefiles) to rescue players that died. On UV, obviously, that doesn't really apply so much (although Spoilers in this paragraph follow: it was totally needed here! I was trying to 'up the ante' with sub-optimal play (pathing, reaver's claw etc), but my main failure was not realising that the ancient's clones don't deal damage - lessons learned, skill improved, worth it!!) Unfortunately, Tormuse hadn't unlocked 'inferno' difficulty in time for this run (make no mistake - he's better than me at chaosforge games). Also, as you mentioned, nightmare and apocalypse can feel a little stressful for 'fun' streaming. If you want to get in on the action next time, there is always discord voice chat and screen sharing. The JH discord channel has voice & video sharing channels that we could totally share next time if there are more than 2. Message me there and we'll organise something going forward! I tend to get *tons* of ideas when it comes to 'fun new ways to play a (old) game', especially roguelikes; so I'm sure we could get all sorts of fun community games in future, but doing this with extra players would be a great start in the short-term! Tormuse and I go years back, but I'm confident that adding more bodies to the squad soon will be welcomed! Message me on discord! (I'm going to be pushing my twitch channel in the coming months, and with JH being one of my favourite games, it'll be a priority there, so I'm really down for this!)

@@xxxxSylphxxxx "Let's rush Jovian moons together!" This is something i would definetly try (will message you later today on dis) - will need to test and learn some simple streaming first (just to get a little experience and make myself mentally ready). Oof - Inferno! seems still over my level though. I tried it few times and usually one regular reaver at the beggining stage (and they appear sometimes quite fast it seems) that gets resilient perk rolled and it is already 50/50. Add one or two other smaller monsters to it and from my experience so far it is 90/10 it ends with game over :D. If i recall best i got on Inferno so far was to Europa. (also need to unlock Inferno! again after clearing data ;)). Love your content!

@@kamilkaniewski6742 well, that's what the co-op game and 'res-ing' is all about. (maybe we'll mirror builds so being brought back by friends feels less of a change.) Thanks for the good words re:content!

@@xxxxSylphxxxx Mirroring builds sounds fun too :). Watched some more - atm at the part where you got to those exalted Reavers and using that bleed stacked one as shield :D. Hilarious... and as you said - bleeding is op!

@@kamilkaniewski6742 Haha! Reaver's claw is OP! Bleeding is fine! :P ;) Glad you enjoy the videos! That nightmare stream I did last night was a nail-biter!

Re: Nightmare advice, I'll try to oblige that! At the very least I'll post some nightmare runs, but nightmare-specific tips videos sounds like a fun goal at some point soon. I recently took a few month's break from JH, so at the moment I'm re-learning all the new content before getting back to the hell that is respawn difficulties, but rest assured I'll put out some nightmare content soon! (I have a few nightmare runs posted here, but here's hoping I'll put out some more with up-to-date versions soon!

I recently streamed some nightmare play with a mind to chat a bit more. Something I found, which is almost certainly the reason you don't see many nightmare tips videos, is that during the game there is just *way* too much going on to really be able to give advice the way I was doing here! I'll put out all kinds of content in future including nightmare, but I can't promise giving good tips in a play-by-play. As for a specific tips-video; I'm not sure how much there is to cover that isn't applicable to earlier levels. It's basically just the different mindset that focuses on speed, and that comes mostly with practice.

@@xxxxSylphxxxx That was fast, looking forward to watching those. Sometimes its just the offhand comments on things that seem obvious to you that make a big difference, or little differences in play style. E.g. I'm a lot more conservative with medkits after watching you run around with 30HP and an inventory full of them :-)

@@stephenscothern8652 haha! I try not to do that so much when I'm on Io, or in danger of a missile turret hit or the like! :) I probably also take more risks earlier in the game because I don't mind going splat and dying so much there! I've heard from a few people that think that I stock up on too many medikits, and when I'm playing on lower difficulties I think I agree, but lategame nightmare just eats up so many of them, I have to really grab and hold on to every one I can for later! :D I'm also learning that the ancient boss regularly hits for 55hp in one turn, so I need to gobble up a few more there. :) Anyway, I'm glad the 'actual game' format of this tips video (rather than separate cuts per tip) had an extra bonus in that regard! My main goal was demonstrating how often we can do better than 'standard gun exchanges', which is where I feel a lot of players lose unnecessary health.

Thankyou! Isn't it amazing just how many improvements we can find from watching previous footage with a fresh eye? Great sign that we can all improve! Glad you enjoyed the video, and thanks for pointing out further improvements - that's what we're here for! <3

Thankyou! With a better microphone, I'm hoping to put out more informative content in future (for this and other games). There is *so* much to learn in JH, it was my hope here to demonstrate just how often those 'little' strategies add up over the course of a run!(hence the single-run format of this tips video) Thanks for your lovely support!

Had this game gone a little longer I'd have definitely loved to include tactics vs meduase or warlocks. A video I posted a while back covered bleeding warlocks (mostly frag grenades, because it's brainless with barbed weapons), and beating medusae with gas grenades, but I agree, leaning how to beat them is critical. If anything, I think just knowing what medusae *sounds like* is often the most important thing to learn to fight them!

@@xxxxSylphxxxx Oh right - gas grenades. Great tip, thanks! I usually do not take those (or use them soon after i find them and treat them as expendable items) since usually there are more important things to have in the inventory. Thanks!

@@kamilkaniewski6742 oh, gas grenades are the very best grenades (well, plasma are usually better, but rare, can't be bought etc!) Use the hell out of them, particularly for medusae! Thanks for the comment!

Hi Falagor! I love how you singled-out the diagonal cover for AOE defense! Sign of a great player that knows all the basics there! <3 Resisting rockets/medusae balls with diagonal cover can be an incredibly useful trick! I didn't give it much time here, because it's pretty advanced stuff, but when it comes to those top difficulties, knowing how to avoid AOE attacks without coverMaster/ blast helm is super-important! Thanks for the lovely words of support, and well done for the keen eye on the scoreboard too! Apocalypse certainly isn't easy! I've reset my savefile when new content has been released, but rest assured my total A! wins are low single-digits! :D

@@xxxxSylphxxxx :) Oh, this is hilarious - recently i cleared my data too (like 3 days ago) - wanted to challenge myself anew since after i came back after some break - there were lots of changes and old tactics apperently do not work so well on N! anymore. For example in the past my wins on N! were usually when i went Ruins->Shadow Halls for that sweet up to 50% hp regen buff. But back then gibbing enemy assured it would not respawn as exalted one. Now it only extends its respawn time. So far with those new changes i had problems to clear whole Ruins level before first enemy respawns so the 'temple' does not open (and when they start respawning it is only downhill) - will try it few more times but definetly there is something else that needs to be done to win N! now (have not won yet). Also - i have never won A! - so your achievments here seems really impressive to me :).

@@kamilkaniewski6742 viva la nightmare gibbing coming back! I'm looking forward to the change, I only got ~4 nightmare wins back when it used to, and never really got a chance to play a 100% run, but I loved doing that in DRL, and want to see what's possible strategically. Inferno difficulty is great in the mean time. It remains to be seen how apocalypse works if gibbing prevents respawns there... Given the increased enemy health, it might still be too challenging to 100%. I've never beaten apocalypse with my favorite class (technician). It feels really class-limited currently, but have a feeling that fireangel and sharpshooter+headshot might have a chance if gibbing and elemental damage kills things fo good. .

@@kamilkaniewski6742 oh, I nearly forgot... The temple now opens after you kill a few respawns! (it wasn't always this way, it was introduced a few months ago.) It was possible to open it before by 'dragging' enemies into a corpse-pile, but it's easier now that you can just shoot extras! Hope that helps! x

@@xxxxSylphxxxx Oh - did not know that. Thx for the tip! Will try it next time.

Another amazing Harbinger fight, nicely done!