You should not store your torque wrench with a high setting. You should put it back to the lowest torque setting it can do before putting it away. If you don't do that then it will become more and more inaccurate over time. There is a piece of metal inside it that bends as you increase the torque setting and storing it with that bent will take out the "spring" in the metal.
When putting the axle in you, Insert axle Do up pinch bolts on the opposite side to the axle bolt. Tighten axle nut. Undo pinch bolt. Bounce forks a couple of times to align the forks so they don’t bind up and locate properly. Tighten both pinch bolts and your sweet.
i'm not familiar with the wr250, but most bikes need bouncing the forks up and down before doing up the axle pinch bolts so they find their own place on the axle and not bind up.
I still remember when you used the torque wrench as a hammer. I showed it to my tafe teacher at the start of they year and he put the video up on the projector and we watched the whole video and went through everything you did wrong
Same story with chains is the same with pads, you should swap your discs over too cos not only they old pads won't grip at all until you bed them in properly they also cause hotspots possibly messing up both your rotors. Also this is a simple and easy SM conversion most of the time you need a whole new braking setup at least on the front when you do an SM conversion
@@RidingWithTom I was just testing you ;) I do up the pinch bolts on one side, tighten the nut and then do up the pinch bolts on the other side. I was thinking that the nut has to pull the forks against the bearings, otherwise there might be some slop?
@@Nerb1 Doing up the pinch bolts on the "head-side" first is a good solution, but even better would be to get the actual Allen-key (or in-hex as it is sometimes referred to) to properly stop the axle from rotating, get the axle and spacers seated properly and THEN do up the pinch bolts. If there is some play left between the fork, spacers and bearings and somehow the fork does slide a bit, you're suddenly left with a loose axle nut. It doesn't look like the running torque of this nut is enough to prevent it from coming off if it does come loose.
If you tighten the pinch bolts first it can leave a gap creating 'slop'? If you leave the pinch bolts loose and over-tighten it can cause the axle to bind in-between the forks? I guess this is why a torque wrench and Allen key is the best method, then tighten the pinch bolts last? Never actually done it so asking for technical advise.
i know Tom does not care about it but for those who want to know how to install properly a front wheel to avoid your fork legs to bend inwards. Check this video at 1:10 th-cam.com/video/I8toItfYlIw/w-d-xo.html
7:13 Pro tip from a Pro. Should hear it yourself, but basically. When changing a tire on a dirtbike, you must always change the rear sprocket along with it. Or at the same time. As it will cause excessive or too much wear on your chain.
Instead of grease try motor oil wiped on the front axle. It won't turn hard and sticky like grease. Also as mentioned below there's a few steps to make sure the forks are binding. You shouldn't need a mallet to get the axle in or out.
I have Warp 9 SM wheels that I can quickly swap out from the factory dirt wheels on my 500exc. I also have another set of dirt wheels with studded winter wheels I use on frozen lake and river tops.
When you did the front you should indeed tighten the big nut first so it pulls the axle into place properly and then afterwards the small ones to keep it there
Never been a big fan of using a torque wrench on axles on a dirt bike, bit hard to carry one for when you get a puncture and have to tighten the axle when replacing the wheel in the bush, not to mention trying to undo the nut with a shorter spanner.
Did you have to change the front rotor or it fit? Bc the x had the 320. Did the r wheels have the 320 or the smaller one? I have an 08 wr250x and just bought a set of wr250r wheels, sprockets, and rotors from a guy who took them off his r. Wondering what I would need for an easy swap
Buddy of mine "solved" the sprocket problem by having two chains on his drz. Then he complicated matters by having the same chain length but different sprockets front and rear. After mixing up the chains a few times he realized that by having different lengths on the chains he could see the difference between the chains and keep the same front sprocket.
Hello when you fitted the lowering arm did you have to do anything else to the bike ? And do you think it changed the feeling of the bike eg handling etc , better worse or no difference. Thank you
I remember you did a similar video years ago where you changed from SM to dirt in your old apartment car park. EDIT: Note, you really should change your tires after 5 years, even if the tread is good. Rubber dries and hardens over time.
Quick one, what tyres do you currently run on 250? I'm about to drop some Metzeler MC360s on mine, supposedly they'll hold up fairly well on the road as well as dirt! We will see.
I run Mc360 and they are holding up very well I'm in UK so not many places to offroad so I'd say I ride 80%road and the tyres are great can still throw the bike around without it being too sketchy just makes it a bit lazier also bit noisy but I don't mind that
@@caffeinatedrider7453 yeah I have the medium/hard terrain ones I'd say done about 700 miles on them not worn-out on the slightest also another good thing about them is they have reversable tread pattern so when the edge of the knobs wear down flip tyre around and can go for few more miles also they are cheap £85 for a set not bad
Don't you run into the trouble of your side stand being too short/long when you swap wheels? I have a KLX that I have 2 sets of wheels for too but it's a major pain in the ass for me as I only have 1 set of brake rotors, 2 sprockets of different sizes, 2 chains of different lengths (clip type master link), and 2 side stands of different lengths. I'd love to streamline the process so I'd be more willing to swap between the two wheelsets.
Aww man 🤦♂️ you are half way there at least. The wife was siting next to me watching and saying no! Not like that 😂 You are entertaining at least mate 😉
Hot tip, if you don't have a rubber mallet to hit the axel out, you can put the nut back on like 1/2 way threaded and smack that with a normal hammer:). (being careful of course.)
Wouldn't it put stress on the thread? I mean if you do it gently with a hammer still there'd be a little stress in the meshing threads, idk I'm not an expert just asking.
@@mathew936 With those high tensile threads and nuts it seems to be fine. I got shown that trick when i was a mechanic by and old boy. Used to use it all the time on ball joints and stuff. You can even do the nut up like 95% and give yourself a couple of mm of movement, sometimes it doesn't need much to come free. If you mash a thread doing it ill honestly send you a slab haha would be super impressed.
A mechanical torque wrench should NEVER be stored on a torque value. You should always back it down to its lowest setting. At this point you might as well just tighten it with a regular wrench because that torque wrench is ruined. I'm a BMW master tech and have been turning wrenches for 16 years.
I really like your videos, that being said... . run through a service manual once please. there are a few things here that are kind of the wrong way to do it.
@@momentmaster7126 thanks for the sympathy. I replaced it with a KLR650 which is still awesome. There was just something about that little 250 that was so fun!
You should not store your torque wrench with a high setting. You should put it back to the lowest torque setting it can do before putting it away. If you don't do that then it will become more and more inaccurate over time. There is a piece of metal inside it that bends as you increase the torque setting and storing it with that bent will take out the "spring" in the metal.
When putting the axle in you,
Insert axle
Do up pinch bolts on the opposite side to the axle bolt.
Tighten axle nut.
Undo pinch bolt.
Bounce forks a couple of times to align the forks so they don’t bind up and locate properly.
Tighten both pinch bolts and your sweet.
THIS. Why do a how to video when you don't do it the correct way...
That was the most subtile yeezy flex of all time jsut saying
i'm not familiar with the wr250, but most bikes need bouncing the forks up and down before doing up the axle pinch bolts so they find their own place on the axle and not bind up.
I still remember when you used the torque wrench as a hammer. I showed it to my tafe teacher at the start of they year and he put the video up on the projector and we watched the whole video and went through everything you did wrong
Even with 250,000 subscribers the idea of a teacher showing my video to a whole class stresses me out haha
I've done this conversion to my wr250r plenty of times now and i still watched the whole video lmao
Tom has enough PTSD from the river crossing and his axel seizing, he had the big hammer right next to him.
Same story with chains is the same with pads, you should swap your discs over too cos not only they old pads won't grip at all until you bed them in properly they also cause hotspots possibly messing up both your rotors. Also this is a simple and easy SM conversion most of the time you need a whole new braking setup at least on the front when you do an SM conversion
I'm getting Deja vu.... Just this isn't an apartment complex carpark, and you're not using a torque wrench as a hammer.
That pivoting ratchet just blew my mind!!!
Take the tension out of your torque wrench when you store it. 😉 itll last longer and more importantly be more accurate.
Why do up the pinch bolts before the axel?
Because the axle will spinnnnnnnnnn and you call yourself an engineer
@@RidingWithTom I was just testing you ;)
I do up the pinch bolts on one side, tighten the nut and then do up the pinch bolts on the other side. I was thinking that the nut has to pull the forks against the bearings, otherwise there might be some slop?
@@Nerb1 Doing up the pinch bolts on the "head-side" first is a good solution, but even better would be to get the actual Allen-key (or in-hex as it is sometimes referred to) to properly stop the axle from rotating, get the axle and spacers seated properly and THEN do up the pinch bolts.
If there is some play left between the fork, spacers and bearings and somehow the fork does slide a bit, you're suddenly left with a loose axle nut. It doesn't look like the running torque of this nut is enough to prevent it from coming off if it does come loose.
If you tighten the pinch bolts first it can leave a gap creating 'slop'? If you leave the pinch bolts loose and over-tighten it can cause the axle to bind in-between the forks? I guess this is why a torque wrench and Allen key is the best method, then tighten the pinch bolts last? Never actually done it so asking for technical advise.
i know Tom does not care about it but for those who want to know how to install properly a front wheel to avoid your fork legs to bend inwards. Check this video at 1:10
th-cam.com/video/I8toItfYlIw/w-d-xo.html
7:13 Pro tip from a Pro.
Should hear it yourself, but basically. When changing a tire on a dirtbike, you must always change the rear sprocket along with it. Or at the same time. As it will cause excessive or too much wear on your chain.
If your spacers are prone to falling out, you can use some grease to hold them in.
You can put a little grease on the spacers to keep them in place when working with the rear wheel.
Are you working on your bike in yeezys lmao legend
Instead of grease try motor oil wiped on the front axle. It won't turn hard and sticky like grease. Also as mentioned below there's a few steps to make sure the forks are binding. You shouldn't need a mallet to get the axle in or out.
Thank you for the video I learned a lot!
I always learn a lot from your videos thanks for sharing Tom, this Is Dave from Mexico, my ride a wr450f. cheers
I have Warp 9 SM wheels that I can quickly swap out from the factory dirt wheels on my 500exc. I also have another set of dirt wheels with studded winter wheels I use on frozen lake and river tops.
When you did the front you should indeed tighten the big nut first so it pulls the axle into place properly and then afterwards the small ones to keep it there
How does the bike perform compared to the knobbies? Are the warp 9s worth it compared to just a pair of 90/10 tires on the original wheels? Cheers!
Hey Tom massive fan you should do another motorbike video out cessnock or kurri was
Never been a big fan of using a torque wrench on axles on a dirt bike, bit hard to carry one for when you get a puncture and have to tighten the axle when replacing the wheel in the bush, not to mention trying to undo the nut with a shorter spanner.
Did you have to change the front rotor or it fit?
Bc the x had the 320. Did the r wheels have the 320 or the smaller one?
I have an 08 wr250x and just bought a set of wr250r wheels, sprockets, and rotors from a guy who took them off his r. Wondering what I would need for an easy swap
What happrnd to your red bmw and to tje videos
Buddy of mine "solved" the sprocket problem by having two chains on his drz. Then he complicated matters by having the same chain length but different sprockets front and rear. After mixing up the chains a few times he realized that by having different lengths on the chains he could see the difference between the chains and keep the same front sprocket.
Great vid, interresting comments. Why not just install same sprocket on both wheels instead of having to swap ?
Hello when you fitted the lowering arm did you have to do anything else to the bike ? And do you think it changed the feeling of the bike eg handling etc , better worse or no difference. Thank you
Excuse me ! Can the wheels of WR250X/R be directly installed on WR250F?
I am looking at getting a set of road wheels for my 250r, where did you get your set?
What size sprockets are you running? Do you find that changing to supermoto wheels has a big impact on the highway cruising speed?
I remember you did a similar video years ago where you changed from SM to dirt in your old apartment car park.
EDIT: Note, you really should change your tires after 5 years, even if the tread is good. Rubber dries and hardens over time.
Note, you really should change your tires after 5 years, even if the tread is good. Rubber dries and hardens over time.
Quick one, what tyres do you currently run on 250? I'm about to drop some Metzeler MC360s on mine, supposedly they'll hold up fairly well on the road as well as dirt! We will see.
CaffeinatedRider mc360 last about 300ks. Tom runs d606
Give them a go or for a bit more dirt performance d952
I run Mc360 and they are holding up very well I'm in UK so not many places to offroad so I'd say I ride 80%road and the tyres are great can still throw the bike around without it being too sketchy just makes it a bit lazier also bit noisy but I don't mind that
@@lukewoodall6200 That's what I heard also for the hard terrain ones anyway.
@@caffeinatedrider7453 yeah I have the medium/hard terrain ones I'd say done about 700 miles on them not worn-out on the slightest also another good thing about them is they have reversable tread pattern so when the edge of the knobs wear down flip tyre around and can go for few more miles also they are cheap £85 for a set not bad
what are the rims that the warp 9's are on? Plus any suggestions where to buy in Canada
Don't you run into the trouble of your side stand being too short/long when you swap wheels? I have a KLX that I have 2 sets of wheels for too but it's a major pain in the ass for me as I only have 1 set of brake rotors, 2 sprockets of different sizes, 2 chains of different lengths (clip type master link), and 2 side stands of different lengths. I'd love to streamline the process so I'd be more willing to swap between the two wheelsets.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the pattern on your front moto wheel seem to be facing the wrong direction ....
Aww man 🤦♂️ you are half way there at least. The wife was siting next to me watching and saying no! Not like that 😂
You are entertaining at least mate 😉
Hey Tom, can you ask your mate Nic where he got his graphics for his ims fuel tank. Thanks
He said DMK Designs
Love this vids 👍🏻
Nice mate!
Hot tip, if you don't have a rubber mallet to hit the axel out, you can put the nut back on like 1/2 way threaded and smack that with a normal hammer:). (being careful of course.)
Wouldn't it put stress on the thread? I mean if you do it gently with a hammer still there'd be a little stress in the meshing threads, idk I'm not an expert just asking.
@@mathew936 With those high tensile threads and nuts it seems to be fine. I got shown that trick when i was a mechanic by and old boy. Used to use it all the time on ball joints and stuff. You can even do the nut up like 95% and give yourself a couple of mm of movement, sometimes it doesn't need much to come free. If you mash a thread doing it ill honestly send you a slab haha would be super impressed.
Why not just use a bit of wood
Is your WR250 derestricted or stock?
So the gloves were for the muck donalds right?👍
A mechanical torque wrench should NEVER be stored on a torque value. You should always back it down to its lowest setting. At this point you might as well just tighten it with a regular wrench because that torque wrench is ruined. I'm a BMW master tech and have been turning wrenches for 16 years.
is the tread pattern on the front backwards?
D606’s knobbies wear kinda weird, that front has like 10,000km on it and needs to be changed
WORKING HARD TO MAKE A LIVING
BRINGING SHELTER FROM THE RAIN
A FATHERS SON LEFT TO CARRY ON
BLUE DENIM IN HIS VAINS
OH OH OH HES A WORKING CLASS MAN
Are thoes yeezes?
great video, looks like an oldie
I filmed it 2 days ago...
@@RidingWithTom no I meant it being older styled, you used to do more videos like that before
What wheel setup are you using for the motard setup?
Warp 9’s
Are those yeezys?
I’m jealous of your maccas mate.
Were you flat foot when it was stock height
I was fine with stock height but being a bit lower was nice for the technical stuff
Hahahahah “I got maccers”
I really like your videos, that being said... . run through a service manual once please. there are a few things here that are kind of the wrong way to do it.
That's every video it's his style
nice m8 : )
How do you live with such an unorganised toolbox
looks like Tom single handedly completed the swap
*budum tsss* 🥁
This video didn't show up on my sub box for some reason
Something that you’ll always find in Tom’s garage..........sand
Did u really do this shit in yeezys?!?!?
Makes me miss my WR that got stolen from me a couple months ago 😢
Tanner Milne Sorry to hear that man. 😟
@@momentmaster7126 thanks for the sympathy. I replaced it with a KLR650 which is still awesome. There was just something about that little 250 that was so fun!
Why are u wearing yeezys to work on your motocross bike
Anyone know what foot pegs he has?
Zeta’s
RidingWithTom thank you
And bam a slow bike converted to a slow bike with small wheels
You are welcome to come to the forest anytime to see if you can keep up with this slow bike
Do you ride with viewers sometimes?
First
im sorry but that safari tank is such an eyesore it looks like the cup i peed into for my drug test at work
Beats running out of fuel