In Fredericksburg tx .. on new builds we usually install a customer shutoff afrer the meter or right before the house. Most Older homes usually don’t have one if it’s original water lines. So we usually advise the home owner to install one. Or the other scenario we come across is that they install a softener and the loop will have a shutoff valve inside the house by the softener unit. Most homes have water softener loops built into the slab or home when we build them.
@@user-ew2jd9us3m Before the new meter technology it was always a pain to have your meters inside (gas, water) because someone would literally have to come into your house to read them. Now with new technology, that doesn’t happen too much anymore. I’m also in New York, so having a water meter box outside can cause some interesting complications come the winter time.
Obviously an AAV for the kitchen sink drain...a no-no where I'm from but we sneak the national code-approved ones in when we can ( I don't have any problem with them as long as they're accessible thru an access panel or grate in the future ). Also , only one drain line roughed up thru the concrete on that kitchen drain eliminates the loop-vent idea. I also see no nail shields or BOCA plates - I HOPE those get added at some point or those PVC and PEX lines will find a nail or two from the drywallers or trim guys !! Work looks pretty neat - too many construction companies are always in a hurry to get things done - and their work shows it - these guys look like they actually used a tape measure and a level...good on them !!
I’ve been a building inspector in Utah for many years. I will say that particular house does not represent 90% of Utah homes. Most homes in Utah are bare bones basic. Great video!
In my jurisdiction, we can’t use a double Ty, it has to be a double “ fixture fitting “. There is a difference. Same thing for back to back toilets. Also, their island sink/ venting is very different.
Double Cross fittings are illegal to use by me. At some point those drains will need to be Rodded. Good luck trying to make your cable down that fitting.
The A/C system is possibly a split mini system with different heads through the house? Maybe? That way you can control the temperature in different rooms, not have one central system for the whole house. If I ever built another house that is what I would do.
In NYC by code all that PVC has to be Black pipe Because of Rats in the Sewer system and garbage disposals are illegal till after the inspector leaves 🤫🤫🤫
@@RogerWakefield What? Why would someone just go to Alaska for the plumbing? **watches Mr. Wakefield prepping a road trip to Alaska** "Because it'll be fun in Alaska!"
Great video, thanks! I’m in the Chicago area and I’ve never seen a home with no water shut-off in the home. My current ranch home has 2 meters (home water and outside water and a shut-off for each, 1/4 turn ball valves, 1” water line, copper) which are in the basement and currently most suburbs have remote readers that are picked up by a vehicle passing by. Chicago is huge and many systems are in use, depending on how old the building/home is. They still have lead pipe for many entrance lines, which they have started to replace.
Main shutoff valves aren't common in texas? That's wild to me. We put them in every new build in BC, Canada because it's virtually no additional cost but allows for emergency flood control or service control right from the mech room.
I don't think so, or at least the home owners don't know about it. When Texas froze (was it 2021 or so?) there was no heat coming into the homes, so there were a lot of stories and reports of flooded homes due to the bursting water lines. It was a bit of a shock to me because I (living in the northern US) would have de-pressurized the system before it got to that point by closing the main and opening some taps.
@@TristonSmith_ThePlumbingSmith everything in Texas has a political agenda, so there's probably a politician out there giving speeches about "godless whole house shut off valves eating babies for Satan" and shows a picture of the plumber in drag. OH NO. I've probably just given them an idea (SMH).
Soooo many vents! we use as3500 plumbing standard. The drains are over sized so they never run full bore and self vent. we used to do fully vented systems. the new way works though.
I'm with you lol fla and Texas are both covered under the southern standard code which in most cases everything is wet vented and it does not allow inch and a half VTRs but whatever I have seen the northern states actually make them telescope the vents to three inch to prevent freezing over and plugging the vent that's interesting but you know plumbing is plumbing basically across the country except for some different things that wouldn't take long to pick up on the most stringent code I've had to follow was the south fla building code as there's quite a few differences in that book than the southern standard code but that's only south of Palm Beach..
People are going to regret putting in those Chinese made mini splits. They have the quality of a window AC. Parts aren't universal like normal HVAC systems which means the part will be weeks out or no longer available many times. I hate working on them because they don't even make it easy to clean them. It's a complete teardown to get to the blower wheel. They use tricks to get the high seer rating, kinda like the Chinese 5 HP air compressors running on a 15 amp 120 volt outlet. In case you don't know, 5 HP would require 220 volts at a 20 plus amp draw. I'm not sure the efficiency of those motors.
I've been fortunate enough to plumb in multiple states for new construction. Haven't made it to Texas or Utah. It's interesting to hear what the inspectors have to say. As well as seeing what material plumbers use. Especially for strap and support.
The architect obviously did not plan for the plumbing and fail to have proper width lumber used in that wall. And I saw that one wall that is obviously an outside bathroom wall that has no room for much in the way of insulation.
on the east coast, we have shut offs outside, and also 2 usually in the home, one at and after where line enters foundation or before and after the meter
I been plumbing in construction 37 years and got out of new home work in 03 so been some changes heres what I seen in So Ca very rescently was kinda shocked on homes iwalked nearby in the rough stage. On the water I see the domestic pex running over to tie into the cpvc firesprinker lines not to feed either but to interconnect them maybe to keep sprinklines from getting stagnant nasty? the hot water had some kinda oddball circulating system not a simple return maybe it gets tempuring valves ? also at the heat pump water heaters ( may have been combo for hvac dont quite remember ) It had 2 seperate stand pipes with traps ,Iguess one for primary a seperate for the secondary coming through the slab. pretty odd When I left new homes our company was still almost excusively copper we had around 6 differant projects going on at a time 25 homes or 50 mighta had some 100 home jobs in phases of 10 or20 homes tops but I never was on a Pex job , had some CPVC jobsin late 80s up to 95 Cpvc never caught ontoo much here
Do both roof drains go onto ground. I’ve never done them on residential but on commercial, drain goes to storm drain system, overflow goes to cow tongue on the side of the building. I’d use a double fixture fitting or stacked tees for double lav. Poor service guy will never get that line unstopped. I dislike color coded pex. It seems like every job where it’s used, someone runs out of one color and swaps it. It’s hell on service guys sometimes. I don’t really see that type of pex used by plumbers anymore in Texas. I’m in Austin and the main crimp systems here are viega and heat link which both use stainless sleeves. I only see the old copper rings at Home Depot. That’s not a knock. That’s the pex I started with. I guess it’s just what’s available to you. I’ll leave my offensive comment for last. The reason they have big showers and one standard valve is Mormons aren’t allowed to shower together.
Dear Roger, I'm currently looking to go into Mountainland Tech to learn to be a plumber and get a good certification under my belt. What advice can you give me or talk about in your videos for people who are new and what they can expect while learning?
It’s probably the Heavy Duty Gray PVC cement. I’ve never used it or seen anyone use it on white schedule 40 pipe. Usually guys use gray cement or glue on electrical PVC conduit or the black schedule 80 pipe
I like your comments and suggestions, But no matter how much they (manufacturers) try to sell PEX, I just lose interest, call me old school, but copper just seems more reliable, and the cost is going through the roof........Even PVC is getting more expensive, and where I'm at they use ABS waste lines, and I'm not even a plumber.......
It astonishes me that there is any home WITHOUT a whole house shutoff valve! I've never seen such! Also, as far as the water company not wanting me in their meter pit, they can KISS MY ASS! I once had a pipe freeze and split underneath the footer of my previous home (the concrete footer acted to conduct the RECORD -18 degree cold). I am NOT going to have a bubbling spring (that I'm PAYING for) run-run-running into my crawl space because of some bureaucratic rule!
We definitely have whole house shutoffs in fla but they are on the outside of the house remember it. Doesn't freeze here so we're good the water main comes up to the side of the house a shutoff and hose bibb are installed and from there it feeds the house most of the time via looped under the slap piping
It’s amazing how each state is different. My water meter and main shut off is inside my house just hanging out next to my water heater.
In Fredericksburg tx .. on new builds we usually install a customer shutoff afrer the meter or right before the house. Most Older homes usually don’t have one if it’s original water lines. So we usually advise the home owner to install one. Or the other scenario we come across is that they install a softener and the loop will have a shutoff valve inside the house by the softener unit. Most homes have water softener loops built into the slab or home when we build them.
@@user-ew2jd9us3m Before the new meter technology it was always a pain to have your meters inside (gas, water) because someone would literally have to come into your house to read them. Now with new technology, that doesn’t happen too much anymore. I’m also in New York, so having a water meter box outside can cause some interesting complications come the winter time.
I like to see how plumbing is done different in other regions. Great video
Me too! Looking forward to doing more
Obviously an AAV for the kitchen sink drain...a no-no where I'm from but we sneak the national code-approved ones in when we can ( I don't have any problem with them as long as they're accessible thru an access panel or grate in the future ). Also , only one drain line roughed up thru the concrete on that kitchen drain eliminates the loop-vent idea. I also see no nail shields or BOCA plates - I HOPE those get added at some point or those PVC and PEX lines will find a nail or two from the drywallers or trim guys !! Work looks pretty neat - too many construction companies are always in a hurry to get things done - and their work shows it - these guys look like they actually used a tape measure and a level...good on them !!
I’ve been a building inspector in Utah for many years. I will say that particular house does not represent 90% of Utah homes. Most homes in Utah are bare bones basic. Great video!
Interesting! We are near cedar city, would love to check out more of Utah!
In my jurisdiction, we can’t use a double Ty, it has to be a double “ fixture fitting “. There is a difference. Same thing for back to back toilets.
Also, their island sink/ venting is very different.
Double Cross fittings are illegal to use by me. At some point those drains will need to be Rodded. Good luck trying to make your cable down that fitting.
The A/C system is possibly a split mini system with different heads through the house? Maybe? That way you can control the temperature in different rooms, not have one central system for the whole house. If I ever built another house that is what I would do.
Yeah that's what I was thinking. They make mini splits that can control up to like 4 zones (maybe even 8..i don't remember)
that crimp ring on the ball valve is f ed
Yeah that might leak
In NYC by code all that PVC has to be Black pipe Because of Rats in the Sewer system and garbage disposals are illegal till after the inspector leaves 🤫🤫🤫
If you get to Montana or Alaska, I'd love to see how they do it there considering how cold it is.
That would be awesome to see...
@@RogerWakefield What? Why would someone just go to Alaska for the plumbing? **watches Mr. Wakefield prepping a road trip to Alaska** "Because it'll be fun in Alaska!"
Great video, thanks! I’m in the Chicago area and I’ve never seen a home with no water shut-off in the home. My current ranch home has 2 meters (home water and outside water and a shut-off for each, 1/4 turn ball valves, 1” water line, copper) which are in the basement and currently most suburbs have remote readers that are picked up by a vehicle passing by. Chicago is huge and many systems are in use, depending on how old the building/home is. They still have lead pipe for many entrance lines, which they have started to replace.
Awesome video Roger you rock.
Thanks for watching Jacob, happy 4th
Love from central utah and welcome to my neck of the woods
Would love to come back to do more!
Come look at a commercial job in Southern Utah next time! Both wood frame apartments and steel frame buildings.
Plumber from Utah here 🫡
And yes traveling review of plumbing observations is a good format.
Main shutoff valves aren't common in texas? That's wild to me. We put them in every new build in BC, Canada because it's virtually no additional cost but allows for emergency flood control or service control right from the mech room.
I don't think so, or at least the home owners don't know about it. When Texas froze (was it 2021 or so?) there was no heat coming into the homes, so there were a lot of stories and reports of flooded homes due to the bursting water lines. It was a bit of a shock to me because I (living in the northern US) would have de-pressurized the system before it got to that point by closing the main and opening some taps.
I saw that and thought that was a uncommon as well. I'm mostly industrial, but main shut off valves are standard for us up here in MI.
Fellow BC Canadian as well, My 1979 house a main shut off right at the service entrance in the garage
Makes me wonder if Texans know how to plumb all that well
@@TristonSmith_ThePlumbingSmith everything in Texas has a political agenda, so there's probably a politician out there giving speeches about "godless whole house shut off valves eating babies for Satan" and shows a picture of the plumber in drag. OH NO. I've probably just given them an idea (SMH).
Welcome to my neck of the woods Roger, I like what they are building here in So. Utah but it needs to slow down.
seems like things are only going to speed up...
Great video,thats ez-pull line set,comes with the white flexible sleeve over it.For protecting the insulation.
Pretty cool seeing DWV top out.i miss it. Loved waste rough in. Would be cool to see some grounds install
I'm sorry but you said water for the toilet on the left hand side as if that's not normal
In New England all the toilets have the water on the left side.... very rare to be on the right.. also having a main shutoff inside the house is code.
Pretty cool stuff, always interesting to see different ways of doing things. Keep it coming Roger!
Thanks, will do!
Soooo many vents! we use as3500 plumbing standard. The drains are over sized so they never run full bore and self vent. we used to do fully vented systems. the new way works though.
I'm with you lol fla and Texas are both covered under the southern standard code which in most cases everything is wet vented and it does not allow inch and a half VTRs but whatever I have seen the northern states actually make them telescope the vents to three inch to prevent freezing over and plugging the vent that's interesting but you know plumbing is plumbing basically across the country except for some different things that wouldn't take long to pick up on the most stringent code I've had to follow was the south fla building code as there's quite a few differences in that book than the southern standard code but that's only south of Palm Beach..
This is a cool idea for future vids! Keep doing it!
We will!
People are going to regret putting in those Chinese made mini splits. They have the quality of a window AC. Parts aren't universal like normal HVAC systems which means the part will be weeks out or no longer available many times. I hate working on them because they don't even make it easy to clean them. It's a complete teardown to get to the blower wheel. They use tricks to get the high seer rating, kinda like the Chinese 5 HP air compressors running on a 15 amp 120 volt outlet. In case you don't know, 5 HP would require 220 volts at a 20 plus amp draw. I'm not sure the efficiency of those motors.
I've been fortunate enough to plumb in multiple states for new construction. Haven't made it to Texas or Utah. It's interesting to hear what the inspectors have to say. As well as seeing what material plumbers use. Especially for strap and support.
To me that would be weird not to have a shut off valve where the main water line comes into the house. LOL
literally said the same thing, never knew other states didnt. we have usually 2 mains in the home in jersey
The architect obviously did not plan for the plumbing and fail to have proper width lumber used in that wall. And I saw that one wall that is obviously an outside bathroom wall that has no room for much in the way of insulation.
on the east coast, we have shut offs outside, and also 2 usually in the home, one at and after where line enters foundation or before and after the meter
From time to time it's good to see you "on the field". Don't you think yourself?
i find it insane and never knew other states dont have main valves inside the home! never heard that but only been doing plumbing about a decade
I been plumbing in construction 37 years and got out of new home work in 03 so been some changes heres what I seen in So Ca very rescently was kinda shocked on homes iwalked nearby in the rough stage.
On the water I see the domestic pex running over to tie into the cpvc firesprinker lines not to feed either but to interconnect them maybe to keep sprinklines from getting stagnant nasty? the hot water had some kinda oddball circulating system not a simple return maybe it gets tempuring valves ?
also at the heat pump water heaters ( may have been combo for hvac dont quite remember ) It had 2 seperate stand pipes with traps ,Iguess one for primary a seperate for the secondary coming through the slab. pretty odd When I left new homes our company was still almost excusively copper we had around 6 differant projects going on at a time 25 homes or 50 mighta had some 100 home jobs in phases of 10 or20 homes tops but I never was on a Pex job , had some CPVC jobsin late 80s up to 95 Cpvc never caught ontoo much here
Flat roof looks nice and modern on a new house but will be a headache in several years.
why do you say that?
Jeez watching this video and noticed that crimp ring below the prv does not look good hopefully not a future issue
Do both roof drains go onto ground. I’ve never done them on residential but on commercial, drain goes to storm drain system, overflow goes to cow tongue on the side of the building.
I’d use a double fixture fitting or stacked tees for double lav. Poor service guy will never get that line unstopped.
I dislike color coded pex. It seems like every job where it’s used, someone runs out of one color and swaps it. It’s hell on service guys sometimes.
I don’t really see that type of pex used by plumbers anymore in Texas. I’m in Austin and the main crimp systems here are viega and heat link which both use stainless sleeves. I only see the old copper rings at Home Depot. That’s not a knock. That’s the pex I started with. I guess it’s just what’s available to you.
I’ll leave my offensive comment for last. The reason they have big showers and one standard valve is Mormons aren’t allowed to shower together.
At 4:48 why is the toilet roughed in from the right? Also when showing the roof drains and overflow, why is the PVC not supported in the walls?
Who makes those stud mounted brackets for cabinets which you indicated allows for cabinets to avoid resting on the floor?
Weird how they can decrease the size of a toilet vent
Come to Washington state and check out Lennar homes. Ive plumbed so many out of Rainierview plumbing and rooter
One day I hope to make it out that way
Dear Roger,
I'm currently looking to go into Mountainland Tech to learn to be a plumber and get a good certification under my belt. What advice can you give me or talk about in your videos for people who are new and what they can expect while learning?
Wait wait.... its not normal in Texas to have a main shut off?
Come plumbing up north! We have 9+ ft deep sewer lines!
Would love to do more videos up north! What part of the north are you located in?
@@RogerWakefield North Dakota. I used to live in Kerville, TX as a kid though!
Kerville is beautiful…do you miss the heat at all?
@@RogerWakefield only during the cold winters do I miss the Texas heat!
For a brand new plumbing installation I still like to use copper pipes.
Love from North UT.
i have never seen black glue for pvc, anybody know what that is?
It’s probably the Heavy Duty Gray PVC cement. I’ve never used it or seen anyone use it on white schedule 40 pipe. Usually guys use gray cement or glue on electrical PVC conduit or the black schedule 80 pipe
Here system636 pvc is used for exhaust gases, uses black primer/ cement
I know what it is, the wrong glue for the job.
I hate cross fittings. It's lazy and if that drain gets stopped up the snake is going to jump across
Have you done AZ yet?
Have not! Would love to do that
I like your comments and suggestions, But no matter how much they (manufacturers) try to sell PEX, I just lose interest, call me old school, but copper just seems more reliable, and the cost is going through the roof........Even PVC is getting more expensive, and where I'm at they use ABS waste lines, and I'm not even a plumber.......
ABS water lines? Yikes...I'm like you...I prefer copper for water and PVC for drain...If I HAD to go PEX, pex A is my favorite..
Is this it??? Has Roger Wakefield been converted to Book of Mormon Plumbing??? 😆
Nail plates/ fire caulk?
It astonishes me that there is any home WITHOUT a whole house shutoff valve! I've never seen such! Also, as far as the water company not wanting me in their meter pit, they can KISS MY ASS! I once had a pipe freeze and split underneath the footer of my previous home (the concrete footer acted to conduct the RECORD -18 degree cold). I am NOT going to have a bubbling spring (that I'm PAYING for) run-run-running into my crawl space because of some bureaucratic rule!
We definitely have whole house shutoffs in fla but they are on the outside of the house remember it. Doesn't freeze here so we're good the water main comes up to the side of the house a shutoff and hose bibb are installed and from there it feeds the house most of the time via looped under the slap piping
Seeing a lot of missing nail plates and mid story supports … that ain’t how we Ohio .
Why is the pvc glue black?
looks to be a cement
Is that Pex A?
No that's pex B
Wear your hard hat
Don’t like crosses!