@ nope, it takes the red BMW several seconds to even catch up to the cammer and he starts by moving out from lane 1. Christian has already pushed another car to lane 3 by dawdling along in lane 2. If Christian was in lane 1, there is room for both other cars to move past him without resorting to funny business
To be fair though, it wasn't clear ahead, so even if the cammer was in lane 1, it wouldn't make a difference. If you think about it, as long as there's a car close (still over 2 seconds though) in front, then even if you stayed in lane 2 the entire journey, you wouldn't be lane hogging. It's only lane hogging if there's no-one in front, and in the clip, there's a 2 second following distance to the car in front, and as that car slows down, so does Christian. As long as there's no-one in front of the corsa(?) in front of Christian, then it's fair to say the corsa's lane hogging, but Christian really isn't. The issue with lane hogging is that it prevents faster traffic from overtaking, which Christian wasn't affecting, but the corsa in front *is*
@Kaiser-ks3yq if Christian was in lane one it could've made a difference. There's a chance that the skoda would've been in the middle lane in the cammer's position and by the time they'd likely want move out to overtake the car in front, the bmw would already be going past
@@Kaiser-ks3yq Finally, someone who knows the rules. Too many people throwing around the "bUt YoU ShOUlD bE iN tHe LeFt LaNE!!!11!1!" comments without actually understanding the rules in full.
First clip: could be argued that the BMW was out of control as they made no attempt to take the roundabout in the proper manner. If I was the Nissan's insurance company I'd be very pleased to have this footage.
I think there's a good argument that they both share the blame on this one. The Puke should have given way, but the BMW was approaching too fast and made no attempt to go around the roundabout.
Nah, the Puke driver is sadly 100% at fault. They entered the roundabout with traffic approaching from the right. And then even braked in front of said traffic. Sadly, in liability arguments, the speed of the traffic from the right makes no difference, nor does the fact the BMW was straight lining the junction. It is still up to the other driver to look and give way to the right.
Nissan Juke drivers have evolved from those in the Volvo 300 from a decade or so ago.. A menace to the roads, however BMW did not help the issue here. Wonder if BMW has declared those mods? didn't think so
"Argued?" mate it's 100% on the BMW. Car was already on roundabout, then the BMW _flew_ in at Mach 2 directly over the roundabout like a motorway lane without even an attempt to take it as a round-a-bout.
Christian 3:58 Why are you in the middle lane? The car in the left lane is pulling away from you. You should only be in that lane if you are overtaking.
@@danielgill2593 He's either trolling for attention, or the world's biggest divvy. Either way I don't think I'll give him the attention he's looking for.
@@angrygromit93absolutely. Yes, the BMW shouldn't be speeding/undertaking, but Christian also shouldn't be lane hogging. So he's a bad driver and a hypocrite. At least he was kind enough to include rear cam footage, so we won't get the usual 'but there might have been something in lane 1' comments
@philipreid2542 maybe he's maintaining a safe distance from the car in front, he was doing 70mph! Sometimes people in lane 1 can be dicks & speed up coz they don't want to be overtaken!
For gods sake, I've copy pasted this twice now, here's an explanation of why you're wrong and the cammer didn't do anything wrong, if you don't believe me try to cite the highway code please: To be fair though, it wasn't clear ahead, so even if the cammer was in lane 1, it wouldn't make a difference. If you think about it, as long as there's a car close (still over 2 seconds though) in front, then even if you stayed in lane 2 the entire journey, you wouldn't be lane hogging. It's only lane hogging if there's no-one in front, and in the clip, there's a 2 second following distance to the car in front, and as that car slows down, so does Christian. As long as there's no-one in front of the corsa(?) in front of Christian, then it's fair to say the corsa's lane hogging, but Christian really isn't. The issue with lane hogging is that it prevents faster traffic from overtaking, which Christian wasn't affecting, but the corsa in front is (Rule 137 "On a two-lane dual carriageway you should stay in the left-hand lane. Use the right-hand lane for overtaking or turning right. After overtaking, move back to the left-hand lane when it is safe to do so." It does not say anything about gaining on the driver in lane 1 etc or whatever the other guy claiming cammer is a lane hogger said, so if you move into lane 2 to overtake, then lane 2 slows down, it is absolutely safe, legal, and reasonable to stay in lane 2 (even though it's slower moving than lane 1), until the driver *AHEAD* of you in *LANE 2* gets out of the way, then accelerate until you complete your overtake, and get back into lane 1. Please learn to drive on motorways that actually have some congestion on them.)
@ why are you referring to rules of dual carriage way on a motor way? No relevance. Cammer is clearly sat in lane two day dreaming when everyone infront of him is making distance (including lane 1). Not condoning the BMW but why the F is Christian in Lane 2 for no other reason than laziness. If you think this is ok, then please learn to drive on motorways 🤦♂️
@@Thomo-ke8bz "Cammer is clearly sat in lane two day dreaming when everyone infront of him is making distance (including lane 1). " If this statement was true, then yes it'd be lane hogging, but since your statement is false (watch the video) it is therefore not lane hogging. As with any driving there are fluctuations in following distance, but if you feel he needs to be any closer to the car in front then you need to retake your test, as a two second following distance is the MINIMUM in good conditions, and the cammer is following at most 2.2 seconds away.
0:30 Juke was well onto the roundabout before the BMW was anywhere near it! BMW failed to keep left of the circle marking too! 100% the BMW driver at fault there.
With roundabouts you should give way to anyone approaching from the right not necessarily positioned at the .roundabout. It was an open junction for the Juke so they could have planned it better. The BMW however certainly contributed to this. Straight lining the roundabout and literally forgetting where their brakes are, they too could have seen this and planned it out better.
Unless the speeds of the other driver are particularly excessive (to the point the BMW couldn't realistically be seen approaching) they'll still be found liable
@@posiub A roundabout is a junction, at the give way line to a junstion you give way to vehicles already in the junction. Highway code rules about roundabouts do not supercede this, they only build on it.
In uk it is not merge in turn, it is just an instruction to merge and the person in the lane with the arrow is the one who has to merge in a safe manner, observations indicate manoever
@@stuartferguson8967 there is literally a sign at the beginning of the clip which not only says "merge in turn" but gives you a visual description of what you have to do. MN-H did not do that
@@koolhoven6342 Just because something is on a sign doesn't mean that it holds up under traffic laws. It's not what you "have" to do. Any uk road signs that are orders like that are in circles or if a roadworks sign will have the order within a circle on that sign. Anything else is just recomendations, you don't have to follow a diversion, you can change your mind and go somewhere else. At a merge the perdon moving from the lane that is closing into the lane that isn't has to make sure it is safe to do so, and they do not have priority over the traffic in the lane that is continuing.
Pretty sure this is Calder road in Edinburgh and based on traffic this is almost certainly outside of the Bus Lane times (there is a sign with posted times). Car on the left should have stayed to the left because that's the lane for normal driving when not overtaking. They also need to make sure that it is safe to change lanes. 100% not on MN-H, although they probably should have been a bit more cautious.
4:30 yes Emily, they didn’t indicate, but your driving is not helping. If you come flying up the inside on a roundabout into another car’s blindspot this will happen to you.
@@drshocking1229 Did you even read the bus lane sign? It's almost certainly outside of the bus lane times based on traffic. It's amazing how many people have made assumptions and gotten this wrong. They did not need to merge and should not have done so without checking that it is safe to do so.
@@Tom-cj5wt yes, but thats only telling you how to merge, if you need to. It doesnt say that you must merge. The Jazz was also not indicating, so no, it's not clear that they were going to try and merge into the cammer.
@@konradgreen2567 With all due respect, given their positioning and the tendency of many drivers to avoid bus lanes even out of hours, it was SOOOO obvious, indicating or not, that they wanted to move over. But the cammer just closed the gap to create a problem. If you are genuinely THAT reliant on the little flashing light to tell you what's happening in front of you, then you're a terrible driver.
3:47 Christian, yes of course the BMW is a absolute helmet for driving that recklessly and dangerous no excuse for that, but why are you lane hogging the middle lane?! There is plenty of room and space on the other lane. It looks absolutely hypocrite to whine about other drivers, while you just casual lane hogg the middle lane..
At first I was going to say he's overtaking the guy in lane one even if it is slowly,but guy in lane 1 seems to be undertaking and going faster too so both him and the guy in front have him should have been back in lane 1 much earlier. Guy in BMW deserves to lose his licence if he even has one though
Emily, if you carry on using roundabouts to overtake, IE driving like a twat, you ARE going to have accidents in your future. Stop trying to push your car into dangerous spaces all to save about 5 seconds off your trip time.
@@alanwm1986 The Highway Code tells us to expect vehicles in the wrong lane, and failing to indicate on roundabouts so we need to drive in a staggered formation to allow them time and space to rectify their mistakes, not close that space down.
Fishing for content mate. Any fool with a modicum of common sense could see that and plan for it. What did they expect the car to come to a complete halt.
@@theostickley6492 No, the car should have continued in the left hand lane as this is the lane for normal driving when not overtaking or turning right (next right turn is quite a bit further and you still need to do the correct checks for a lane change anyway). I assume you also don't bother reading the bus lane times and just sit in the right hand lane?
@@theostickley6492 Given that they're in the left lane, haven't signalled that they're doing anything other than continuing in that lane, and I don't know what the bus lane restrictions are, I would expect them to carry on in their lane. Doesn't mean I wouldn't be prepared for them to do something stupid though.
"that's a merge in turn" Only if the other car was looking to merge you muppet. They'd be signalling if they wanted to merge wouldn't they? Or could it be that they're going to continue into the bus lane depending upon the restrictions?
@@pocky1scot1never assume anything. I will go in bus lane when permitted. As it cannot be determined if that was a permitted time for the bus lane it should be assumed the car would follow road markings and signage which direct you to the right hand lane. Back off let the car in what does it cost you? One car length. Unless you know better.
What I luv about modern cars, is now silent the indicators are, especially those fitted to the cammers cars, roundabouts silence, lane changes silence. It's almost as if they're not being used...🤔
It's a common thing in New zealand for morons to indicate right but go straight over. Infuriating seeing that right indicator on, so stopping expecting them to come past you, only to carry on straight ahead.
0:33 This is why you're meant to drive AROUND the roundabout, and not OVER it. If the BMW had done this there wouldn't have been a collision. So this was completely the fault of the BMW driver.
@sbomorse Absolutely nowhere in the highway code does it state vehicles on the roundabout have right of way. (Firstly right of way doesnt exist only priority). The HW code states that you must give way to vehicles approaching from the right. If you pull onto a roundabout in the path of an approaching vehicle you are in the wrong, even if you pullled onto the roundabout 1/2 second before the other car. Misinformation like you have heard and believe to be true is why there are so many accidents. 'Rule 185 when approaching a roundabout you must give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights'
4:00 - Crap driving by the BMW but there is zero reason for you not to be in lane 1 Christian. Stop hogging the middle lane and you'll find you get underaken far less frequently.
1:12 - What you whining about? There was more than enough space for both of you, as proven by the fact that both of you got through the space without needing to brake or take any kind of avoiding action.
And as bad as the white car then pulling out on him is, he also turns into it slightly. Both incidents show Michael lives to make as much of a situation as possible
"any kind of avoiding action"... Did you not see the cammer have to swerve out the way?? I think you'll find that's "just enough" space, which allows no room for the un-expected, so is not "more than enough".
@@oceandrive7283 Possible, but police are unlikely to take any action against the cammer for what's in the clip, and somewhat more likely to take action against the BMW driver. That reflects the extreme difference in risk that each poses.
1:25 yes the other drivers were i the wrong but "Micheal" really needs to take a chill pill. Loke many on the road taking things way too much to heart. Nothing happened just chill, laugh at thier stupidity and drive on. With the amount of bad drivers on the road you make every drive miserable if you drive angry or take every incident to heart.
On tow with the majority of the UK drivers. At 55mph. I assume they often do this to prevent people from popping out from the side (albeit clear here), or undertaking. Incredible the awareness they allegedly have in the grip levels, and reaction times (helped by a fixation on the car ahead); and will still do this on a rural road at 50; yet unable to do 60 in a national. Amazing. All cynicism aside, we can’t truly tell what happened here. The CamCar might claim they had a 2 second gap until moments before the clip, and were forced to brake because the car ahead broke. Who knows.
I think that it was actually a side road onto the road the cammer was on, and not a direct emerge onto the mini. But you can't really tell because the road markings are so degraded, and I'm sure the Nissan thought it was a direct emerge too.
The junction emerges onto the roundabout and is the only leg of the roundabout with a Give Way sign and markings. The road the cammer is on has a “Priority to the right” sign with appropriate give way markings for that sign and needs to yield to the other vehicle
Is a rather strange set up, Lloyd St, Stafford - where the Nissan emerges from isn't set up like the other entrances to the roundabout On approach the only signs are give way - on a post and on the road, Unlike all the other entrances no mini roundabout signs, and also the only road that has the dashed line on the entrance side. By design layout it looks more like its supposed to be a regular T junction you would join the cam cars road from first then make your way on to the roundabout, But is set too far into the roundabout for that to be sensible....
5:01 We always focus on the negatives, but let's have some positivity, too. By driving in a staggered formation the cammer avoids any unpleasantness caused by the Fusion's error. Nicely done, FG!
0:35 - Nissan not blameless, but the BMW driver is a prick. Way too fast, making no attempt to actually go around the roundabout, would have been nowhere near a crash if they had slowed down instead of just going straight over the middle.
Those road markings you can see mean give way, the BMW completely ignored them, Rule 185 "Check whether road markings allow you to enter without giving way" you give way to vehicles on the roundabout (the Juke in this clip) Rule 185 "watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout" oh and give priority to vehicles on the right applies to those on the roundabout only.
@@darthkek1953 The reason why I say the Nissan wasn't blameless, even though they had priority in that situation, is because one should look not just to see whether there is anybody else waiting to join the roundabout, but at whether there is anybody approaching it. If the Nissan driver had looked a little bit further down the road they would have seen the BMW approaching in a manner that made it very obvious they weren't going to stop, and they could have changed their actions and prevented the crash. Blameless is possibly the wrong word as technically the Nissan didn't do anything wrong as far as the law goes, but their driving could have been significantly better.
@@ColonelSebastianDoyle The reason why I say the Nissan wasn't blameless, even though they had priority in that situation, is because one should look not just to see whether there is anybody else waiting to join the roundabout, but at whether there is anybody approaching it. If the Nissan driver had looked a little bit further down the road they would have seen the BMW approaching in a manner that made it very obvious they weren't going to stop, and they could have changed their actions and prevented the crash. Blameless is possibly the wrong word as technically the Nissan didn't do anything wrong as far as the law goes, but their driving could have been significantly better.
4:36 Was the silver vehicle indicating right? No. Did Emily attempt to overtake the vehicle to the nearsside, contrary to the Highway Code? Yes.Had there been accident would she have received a CD10? Yes.
First clip: the blue BMW was not even near the roundabout when the other car entered it. Clearly carrying too much speed and just expected to barrel through.
@@gerhard6105 Must give way to traffic already on the roundabout in the UK also. People just presume to give way to the right still but the Highway Code has changed from 40 years ago lol
That hashed line across the road donates that you are entering a new section of road. As such, you give way to whoever is already on that section of road. Just as you would if you if you were on a smaller road coming up to a T-junction with the same hashed line in front of you. Just because the BMW was to the right, doesn't mean he can just keep his foot planted on the accelerator like a w⚓.
@@gerhard6105 Many people don't understand Highway code rule 188 (approach mini-roundabouts the same way as normal roundabouts - you give way to drivers on the (mini)roundabout - not from upcoming streets). They think a mini roundabout is to be approached as a regular intersection with a white dot in the middle. So if you approach from the right you should get priority (and that's what the BMW driver did). Also, I'm glad we don't have these stupid inventions in The Netherlands, who ever thought this was good idea didn't know much about traffic and safety at all. Zijn onze rotondes toch een stuk beter ontworpen ;-)
Exactly, defensive driving out of the window so of course there's an interesting gap &...bang! Slower, watch for these gaps in case someone is doing this, avoid accidents 😊
And stay in staggered formation on roundabouts. I find it best to just assume that everyone else on the road is completely incompetent and/or not paying attention. I won't comment on how often that actually turns out to be the case.
Yes Emily should’ve taken more precautions. That being said, it’s a multi lane roundabout with a multi lane exit. As many others have said the same, the other car should’ve checked the blind spot, indicated, checked again and then, if it was safe, to manoeuvre into the lane he wanted to be in. Always remember; mirror, signal, manoeuvre
Dont undertake on roundabouts and beep at people coming off. It is very simple. What are thhey supposed to do stay in the lane and forever keep going round the thing? Utter nobs
what many drivers forget regarding lanes. it's OK to be in the wrong lane for something. but you should always mirror check and INDICATE before moving to correct lane!
Some people seem to forget that when they’re driving, they’re at the controls of a ton (or in some cases two or even more) of metal and plastic moving at significant velocity and physics will still apply to you no matter how much of a hurry you’re in or how important you think you are.
3:35 Due to the poor state of the road markings the other vehicle may have thought they were emerging directly onto the mini roundabout and thus had priority.
@@manchegocheese997 Is a rather strange set up, Lloyd St, Stafford - where the Nissan emerges from isn't set up like the other entrances to the roundabout On approach the only signs are give way - on a post and on the road, Unlike all the other entrances no mini roundabout signs, and also the only road that has the dashed line on the entrance side. By design layout it looks more like its supposed to be a regular T junction you would join the cam cars road from first then make your way on to the roundabout, But is set too far into the roundabout for that to be sensible....
@@andyp315 it's always been a bit of a mess and it needs remarking but it's just to be treated as one roundabout with every road joining being equal, so in this clip the cammer was definitely wrong.
Is a rather strange set up, Lloyd St, Stafford - where the Nissan emerges from isn't set up like the other entrances to the roundabout On approach the only signs are give way - on a post and on the road, Unlike all the other entrances no mini roundabout signs, and also the only road that has the dashed line on the entrance side. By design layout it looks more like its supposed to be a regular T junction you would join the cam cars road from first then make your way on to the roundabout, But is set too far into the roundabout for that to be sensible....
Weird setup, the side street the Nissan emerged from has to give way to both directions as is obvious from older Streetview photos but the roundabout has been enlarged so it physically has to emerge onto the roundabout instead of onto the road the cammer was on.
@@JamesClarke-v2y Read the comment before yours, you can look up the street on google street view. The emerging car is not emerging onto a roundabout, he's merging with cam-cars road, so in fact, the cammer has priority here. In the video you can see that there are two dashed white lines rather than the 1 dashed line for the roundabout.
I guess the DRL's (daytime running lights) are so bright that the driver thought they had lights on. Its crazy the amount of cars i see driving at night without lights on since all new cars had to have DRL's. Any car with DRL's should have auto lights by law but the fools that make up these new laws don't think them through properly!
9:20 they seem to have noticed the bus lane but I can't make the sign out, it's only a bus lane at certain times and the dashcam vid shows 12.55 and the road seems quiet so it's likely outside the bus lane times. One near me that's only a bus lane 3.30-6pm and you'd be amazed how many people don't drive in it. You even get people beeping their horn at you now and then because they think you're driving in a bus lane.
Free lane for the people who know how to use it 😎. Apart from when there’s a bus at the bus stop and no one lets you into the right lane to go round it. Swings and roundabouts
Well done for clocking on. It is Calder Road in Edinburgh nearly all of the bus lanes in the city are 7.30am to 9.30am and 4pm to 6.30pm. It is well sign posted. It's shocking how many people avoid it but at the end of the day you can't be changing lanes like that for any reason. You have to check it's safe first.
@@pocky1scot1 Exactly, they just saw 'bus lane' and tried to immediately get out of it even though they didn't even need to. Pulling straight into the cammer nearly. Close one.
Thanks and 1:09 that's my old local road - that bit to the lake grounds on the right always has people trying to cut across it.. 2:38 yup.. that's what happens when you hotwire a car.
3:33 very strange layout but the cammer does appear to be correct. There are no blue roundabout signs on the road the Nissan is on and they have double dash lines and a give way triangle so must give way to traffic from both directions and that road is not part of the mini roundabout. It probably should be to avoid confusion.
2:56 see this on almost a daily basis at these lights. Ever since the council changed the city centre loop and made this part 2 way instead of 1 way there are near misses all the time
Did not see what it was that was thrown. I confess to throwing the odd "seed bomb" out of my window when nobody is looking, native wild flower seeds wrapped in a mud ball.
@@andyalder7910 … ‘native wild flower’ seeds, eh! I think I can smell what you’re saying, Sensei … and, it smells ‘sweet af’ if you get my drift. 🤔😉✌️🤘
lots of comments on my clip at 3:58 - interesting to see how it looks to others, as watching it back it does indeed look like I'm lane hogging (which I also hate btw). In the front clip, you can see a Jag in lane 1 and another white car ahead of me in lane 2. While the rear clip was going on, both were in the left lane and I was catching, then the white car moved out. When this happened, the Jag booted it, and I backed off (you can see my speed reduce from the back to front clip). I was about to pull back in when I checked behind and saw this guy coming across - I pulled back in after he had come through.
The first clip shows the car on the roundabout which was hit by the BMW. The car was clearly on the roundabout and the BMW approaching from the right should have slowed down so the BMW is at fault .
@Clubbow5 Incorrect, You give way to the right at roundabouts my man, not the left. Cars approaching roundabouts dont give way to vehicles already on it, no where in the highway code does it say this. You do however have to give way to vehicles APPROACHING from the right before you enter the roundabout. Juke driver didnt give way to the BMW approaching from the right, therefore is liable for the collision, it doesnt matter if the Juke arrives at the roundabout first.
Steve i suggest you google the van doing the dodgy over take at the junction and email them stating you sent your video to the police and wait to hear back, it will probably be along the lines of the firm doesn't tolerate driving like that and will start a discussion with the driver and investigate it.
4:16 - I'm actually stunned that someone would drive like that in a 1950s car. There aren't many things that do that in dashcam videos these days, but that is one of them.
First clip; add the fact that BMW went OVER the roundabout with nary an attempt to go ROUND it, and I'd like to think BMW driver was found 50% to blame...
The last one "would you have turned here or waited for the cars to be clear" Nah mate I'd rather not wait and crash like that idiot aswell 🤣 silly question
The thing about roundabouts is the first rule of giving way isn’t to the right, it’s giving way to those already on the roundabout. First clip I’d say the fella that got hit was over the line and locked in before the BMW came screaming into them.
When I 1st started driving back in 1993. There was know where near as well I wouldn't say have the numpties on the road as there is today I wouldn't say less than half there was very few.but now it's horrible out there.half have no lane discipline or when to use indicators correctly or even judge situations.by all means I don't go round claiming I am the best driver in the world.but least I use common sense when it's needed like lane discipline reading situations looking a head of a situation maintaining safe gap in front of a car until some numpty decides to fill it in.indicators use correctly speed limiter used here there and everywhere.and still get home without causing any situation or stress to my self.but it seems to cause stress to others because either not going fast enough or I am going to slow.you just can't win 😂
0:30 Yep, BMW came in way too fast. Black car was almost fully inside the roundabout before the BMW even got to the give way line. And then the BMW completely cut over the roundabout, effectively going on the wrong side of the road. 100% blame on the BMW. 1:20 I agree with the guy. Stop telling him not to shout. He needs to get it out of his system and then he'll come down. You telling him not to shout means he's now going to direct that anger at you and remain pissed for the rest of the drive. It's not like he got out for a fight. Let the man vent, for crying out loud. 1:33 You are allowed to cross hatched areas bound by intermittent lines. It's questionable in this situation, though. 3:46 If you don't want BMW drivers running circles around you, maybe quit hogging the middle lane and pay more attention to your rear view mirrors. 5:40 Or maybe it was the white car in front. Maybe it's one of those new cameras that can detect when you're slowing down before a speed trap. I have been wondering how those determine that you're actually slowing down, and if they're doing it correctly. As in, if I'm in a 70 and slowing down from 70 to 60 because there's a bit of traffic ahead, is it going to flash me? 8:28 Had one of those once. Opened her door right in front of in a petrol station. I was obviously going slow, but it was like 3m in front of me. Then she got out and walked off without even looking behind her to see if there's any cars there. Some people are completely oblivious. 9:41 Would have turned, but would have paid more attention. And the cammer should have paid more attention too. You saw the gap in the column. You saw the street on the left. It's obvious that someone is going to try to cut across.
I hope that everyone who posts a video up on to this site or any other also sends another copy off to the relevant police forces. Also 8:24 letting that taxi out. NO. Usual suspects driving, they'll continue doing it with people like you letting them out. Goes for Audi drivers too.
@9:42 that's a major road in Nottingham and the industrial estate to the left often has people pulling in and pulling out of it blindly. Also the traffic is so heavy it's never smart to pull across with out looking. .. if that was me I wouldn't turn right into it I would go round the roundabout and come back the same way the cam is travelling to make the turn. It takes an extra minute or two but avoids all this.
Cruise control is both the best and worst addition to car comfort. It's great on a long drive, but people then use it to say "I'm doing the speed limit" when they're in anything but the inside lane. On 4 lane motorways, the inside may as well not actually be there, as most drivers refuse to acknowldege its existence
Michael, I feel your pain, not only from idiots on the road but the missus has to pipe up and say " calm down ". Like, this is the real reasons for the use of anger, why wouldnt I apply it to this scenario!
What I take from is that the Highway code needs to be update urgently to account for the modern world and keep up with what is obviously an imported new set of driving styles. Globalization of vehicle driving. Oh and that it is an absolute fact that us bikers can never do no wrong, so there.
@MrAnderson-gz4ps It would have also been avoided if the Juke driver gave way to approaching vehicles to the right, as per rule 185 in the highway code
Maxim S 3:20 - so much to unpack here. Spun on a roundabout, someone pushing in from the emerging lane into the roundabout, Audi doesn’t have their lights on… where do people get their licenses? 🤦♂️
granted in the first clip the black car should've gave way to the right. but the BMW driver should always assume something like this is going to happen and be prepared to react. Cos we do have bad drivers everywhere.
3:47 yes Christian, the red BMW is being driven by a complete tool. But you aren’t helping - get over into lane 1 unless you’re overtaking.
Looks to me like they have slowed to give space for the idiot to pass and get out of the way.
@ nope, it takes the red BMW several seconds to even catch up to the cammer and he starts by moving out from lane 1. Christian has already pushed another car to lane 3 by dawdling along in lane 2. If Christian was in lane 1, there is room for both other cars to move past him without resorting to funny business
To be fair though, it wasn't clear ahead, so even if the cammer was in lane 1, it wouldn't make a difference.
If you think about it, as long as there's a car close (still over 2 seconds though) in front, then even if you stayed in lane 2 the entire journey, you wouldn't be lane hogging.
It's only lane hogging if there's no-one in front, and in the clip, there's a 2 second following distance to the car in front, and as that car slows down, so does Christian.
As long as there's no-one in front of the corsa(?) in front of Christian, then it's fair to say the corsa's lane hogging, but Christian really isn't.
The issue with lane hogging is that it prevents faster traffic from overtaking, which Christian wasn't affecting, but the corsa in front *is*
@Kaiser-ks3yq if Christian was in lane one it could've made a difference. There's a chance that the skoda would've been in the middle lane in the cammer's position and by the time they'd likely want move out to overtake the car in front, the bmw would already be going past
@@Kaiser-ks3yq Finally, someone who knows the rules. Too many people throwing around the "bUt YoU ShOUlD bE iN tHe LeFt LaNE!!!11!1!" comments without actually understanding the rules in full.
First clip: could be argued that the BMW was out of control as they made no attempt to take the roundabout in the proper manner. If I was the Nissan's insurance company I'd be very pleased to have this footage.
I think there's a good argument that they both share the blame on this one. The Puke should have given way, but the BMW was approaching too fast and made no attempt to go around the roundabout.
Nah, the Puke driver is sadly 100% at fault. They entered the roundabout with traffic approaching from the right. And then even braked in front of said traffic. Sadly, in liability arguments, the speed of the traffic from the right makes no difference, nor does the fact the BMW was straight lining the junction. It is still up to the other driver to look and give way to the right.
Nissan Juke drivers have evolved from those in the Volvo 300 from a decade or so ago.. A menace to the roads, however BMW did not help the issue here. Wonder if BMW has declared those mods? didn't think so
@@tourettispaghetti3739declare what mods?
"Argued?" mate it's 100% on the BMW. Car was already on roundabout, then the BMW _flew_ in at Mach 2 directly over the roundabout like a motorway lane without even an attempt to take it as a round-a-bout.
Christian 3:58 Why are you in the middle lane? The car in the left lane is pulling away from you. You should only be in that lane if you are overtaking.
no, there's no rules to the lanes on motorways
@@xsm5525you make me laugh 😂
@@danielgill2593 He's either trolling for attention, or the world's biggest divvy. Either way I don't think I'll give him the attention he's looking for.
@@xsm5525I don't know if you were just trying to wind him up, but it looks like you succeeded anyway.
@@xsm5525Twat.
3:47 if there is enough room in Lane 1 for the BMW to undertake you then you should be in it. You were not catching the car ahead in Lane 1.
@@SirBradiator if anything the car in lane one was going faster.
thats what you took away from that clip?
@@angrygromit93 BMW total cock but I have to agree they should be in lane 1 - doesn't excuse the BMW's driving.
@@angrygromit93absolutely. Yes, the BMW shouldn't be speeding/undertaking, but Christian also shouldn't be lane hogging. So he's a bad driver and a hypocrite.
At least he was kind enough to include rear cam footage, so we won't get the usual 'but there might have been something in lane 1' comments
@philipreid2542 maybe he's maintaining a safe distance from the car in front, he was doing 70mph! Sometimes people in lane 1 can be dicks & speed up coz they don't want to be overtaken!
3:46 of course it’s a middle lane hogger… before the keyboard warriors poo their pants, yes the BMW is in the wrong but so is the dashcam driver
The worst!
I came here to comment the same, f'kin lane hogs
For gods sake, I've copy pasted this twice now, here's an explanation of why you're wrong and the cammer didn't do anything wrong, if you don't believe me try to cite the highway code please:
To be fair though, it wasn't clear ahead, so even if the cammer was in lane 1, it wouldn't make a difference.
If you think about it, as long as there's a car close (still over 2 seconds though) in front, then even if you stayed in lane 2 the entire journey, you wouldn't be lane hogging.
It's only lane hogging if there's no-one in front, and in the clip, there's a 2 second following distance to the car in front, and as that car slows down, so does Christian.
As long as there's no-one in front of the corsa(?) in front of Christian, then it's fair to say the corsa's lane hogging, but Christian really isn't.
The issue with lane hogging is that it prevents faster traffic from overtaking, which Christian wasn't affecting, but the corsa in front is
(Rule 137
"On a two-lane dual carriageway you should stay in the left-hand lane. Use the right-hand lane for overtaking or turning right. After overtaking, move back to the left-hand lane when it is safe to do so."
It does not say anything about gaining on the driver in lane 1 etc or whatever the other guy claiming cammer is a lane hogger said, so if you move into lane 2 to overtake, then lane 2 slows down, it is absolutely safe, legal, and reasonable to stay in lane 2 (even though it's slower moving than lane 1), until the driver *AHEAD* of you in *LANE 2* gets out of the way, then accelerate until you complete your overtake, and get back into lane 1.
Please learn to drive on motorways that actually have some congestion on them.)
@ why are you referring to rules of dual carriage way on a motor way? No relevance. Cammer is clearly sat in lane two day dreaming when everyone infront of him is making distance (including lane 1). Not condoning the BMW but why the F is Christian in Lane 2 for no other reason than laziness. If you think this is ok, then please learn to drive on motorways 🤦♂️
@@Thomo-ke8bz "Cammer is clearly sat in lane two day dreaming when everyone infront of him is making distance (including lane 1). "
If this statement was true, then yes it'd be lane hogging, but since your statement is false (watch the video) it is therefore not lane hogging.
As with any driving there are fluctuations in following distance, but if you feel he needs to be any closer to the car in front then you need to retake your test, as a two second following distance is the MINIMUM in good conditions, and the cammer is following at most 2.2 seconds away.
0:30 Juke was well onto the roundabout before the BMW was anywhere near it! BMW failed to keep left of the circle marking too! 100% the BMW driver at fault there.
With roundabouts you should give way to anyone approaching from the right not necessarily positioned at the .roundabout. It was an open junction for the Juke so they could have planned it better. The BMW however certainly contributed to this. Straight lining the roundabout and literally forgetting where their brakes are, they too could have seen this and planned it out better.
Whoever was first on the roundabout makes no difference
50/50
Unless the speeds of the other driver are particularly excessive (to the point the BMW couldn't realistically be seen approaching) they'll still be found liable
@@posiub A roundabout is a junction, at the give way line to a junstion you give way to vehicles already in the junction. Highway code rules about roundabouts do not supercede this, they only build on it.
MN-H. What an idiot. Merge in turn clearly displayed. They had priority over you.
In uk it is not merge in turn, it is just an instruction to merge and the person in the lane with the arrow is the one who has to merge in a safe manner, observations indicate manoever
@@stuartferguson8967Licence from a cereal packet.
@@stuartferguson8967 there is literally a sign at the beginning of the clip which not only says "merge in turn" but gives you a visual description of what you have to do. MN-H did not do that
@@koolhoven6342 Just because something is on a sign doesn't mean that it holds up under traffic laws. It's not what you "have" to do. Any uk road signs that are orders like that are in circles or if a roadworks sign will have the order within a circle on that sign. Anything else is just recomendations, you don't have to follow a diversion, you can change your mind and go somewhere else. At a merge the perdon moving from the lane that is closing into the lane that isn't has to make sure it is safe to do so, and they do not have priority over the traffic in the lane that is continuing.
Pretty sure this is Calder road in Edinburgh and based on traffic this is almost certainly outside of the Bus Lane times (there is a sign with posted times). Car on the left should have stayed to the left because that's the lane for normal driving when not overtaking. They also need to make sure that it is safe to change lanes. 100% not on MN-H, although they probably should have been a bit more cautious.
4:30 yes Emily, they didn’t indicate, but your driving is not helping. If you come flying up the inside on a roundabout into another car’s blindspot this will happen to you.
@9:20 You should have held back as you could see that the driver needed to zip merge. Very bad driving on your part.
Sadly forced into a bus lane as well (Could of gotten a ticket just because someone forced him to be in that bus lane)
@@drshocking1229 Did you even read the bus lane sign? It's almost certainly outside of the bus lane times based on traffic. It's amazing how many people have made assumptions and gotten this wrong. They did not need to merge and should not have done so without checking that it is safe to do so.
@@pocky1scot1 there is quite clearly a "merge in turn" sign there.
@@Tom-cj5wt yes, but thats only telling you how to merge, if you need to. It doesnt say that you must merge. The Jazz was also not indicating, so no, it's not clear that they were going to try and merge into the cammer.
@@konradgreen2567 With all due respect, given their positioning and the tendency of many drivers to avoid bus lanes even out of hours, it was SOOOO obvious, indicating or not, that they wanted to move over. But the cammer just closed the gap to create a problem. If you are genuinely THAT reliant on the little flashing light to tell you what's happening in front of you, then you're a terrible driver.
Who were you overtaking, Christian? Can't be the car that's 20 metres ahead of you in lane 1 because it was pulling away from you 🤔
3:47 Christian, yes of course the BMW is a absolute helmet for driving that recklessly and dangerous no excuse for that, but why are you lane hogging the middle lane?! There is plenty of room and space on the other lane. It looks absolutely hypocrite to whine about other drivers, while you just casual lane hogg the middle lane..
At first I was going to say he's overtaking the guy in lane one even if it is slowly,but guy in lane 1 seems to be undertaking and going faster too so both him and the guy in front have him should have been back in lane 1 much earlier.
Guy in BMW deserves to lose his licence if he even has one though
“Well, I want the option to move either way. I CHOOSE lane 2, that’s my favourite. Not too slow, not too fast. Medium”
Emily, if you carry on using roundabouts to overtake, IE driving like a twat, you ARE going to have accidents in your future. Stop trying to push your car into dangerous spaces all to save about 5 seconds off your trip time.
Yeah, Emily broke the golden rule 'Don't overtake undertake, or be alongside another vehicle, adopt a staggered formation where possible'.
It's 2 lanes in 2 lanes out the silver car should have stayed in their lane ...
@alanwm1986 'should'. They never do, that's why you never attempt an overtake or undertake on a roundabout. Eventually you'll have a crash.
@@alanwm1986 The Highway Code tells us to expect vehicles in the wrong lane, and failing to indicate on roundabouts so we need to drive in a staggered formation to allow them time and space to rectify their mistakes, not close that space down.
Christian lane hogging
9:25 that’s a merge in turn you muppet.
Fishing for content mate. Any fool with a modicum of common sense could see that and plan for it. What did they expect the car to come to a complete halt.
@@theostickley6492 No, the car should have continued in the left hand lane as this is the lane for normal driving when not overtaking or turning right (next right turn is quite a bit further and you still need to do the correct checks for a lane change anyway). I assume you also don't bother reading the bus lane times and just sit in the right hand lane?
@@theostickley6492 Given that they're in the left lane, haven't signalled that they're doing anything other than continuing in that lane, and I don't know what the bus lane restrictions are, I would expect them to carry on in their lane. Doesn't mean I wouldn't be prepared for them to do something stupid though.
"that's a merge in turn" Only if the other car was looking to merge you muppet. They'd be signalling if they wanted to merge wouldn't they? Or could it be that they're going to continue into the bus lane depending upon the restrictions?
@@pocky1scot1never assume anything. I will go in bus lane when permitted. As it cannot be determined if that was a permitted time for the bus lane it should be assumed the car would follow road markings and signage which direct you to the right hand lane. Back off let the car in what does it cost you? One car length. Unless you know better.
4:30 Emily is becoming the new JediAvenger..
Maybe she is & just changed her name 😂
Jeez mate, there's no need for that kind of language
Thats a name I recognise from UK dash cam exposed
Jedivagina.
What I luv about modern cars, is now silent the indicators are, especially those fitted to the cammers cars, roundabouts silence, lane changes silence. It's almost as if they're not being used...🤔
The amount of people that don't signal they are turning off at a roundabout or even keep signaling right and then turn off, does my head in.
It's a common thing in New zealand for morons to indicate right but go straight over. Infuriating seeing that right indicator on, so stopping expecting them to come past you, only to carry on straight ahead.
@@paulharper4196 Yeah its common here also, makes my blood boil!
@@Sython6
Should be 3 points
Most clips are silent because the channel removes the copyrighted music people are listening to on their radios
4:38 is that the same Emily that undertakes anyone on a roundabout who's driving a bit slow so may be lost or in the wrong lane?
may be the recipient of this weeks award
Every week Emily shows she's very keen to be first to the scene of an accident.
You can argue it was a dangerous overtake, but the other car did not indicate and still had to give way to the cammer.
@@CristiNeaguYes, they both sucked. But if you (ie Emily) suck then you need to improve your driving before worrying about sending in dashcam clips.
@@CristiNeagu Wrong, the other car had priority not the cammer.
0:33 This is why you're meant to drive AROUND the roundabout, and not OVER it. If the BMW had done this there wouldn't have been a collision. So this was completely the fault of the BMW driver.
The Juke was on the roundabout before the BMW entered it so it had right of way anyway.
@sbomorse Absolutely nowhere in the highway code does it state vehicles on the roundabout have right of way. (Firstly right of way doesnt exist only priority). The HW code states that you must give way to vehicles approaching from the right. If you pull onto a roundabout in the path of an approaching vehicle you are in the wrong, even if you pullled onto the roundabout 1/2 second before the other car.
Misinformation like you have heard and believe to be true is why there are so many accidents.
'Rule 185 when approaching a roundabout you must give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights'
4:00 - Crap driving by the BMW but there is zero reason for you not to be in lane 1 Christian. Stop hogging the middle lane and you'll find you get underaken far less frequently.
3:55 In the words of Ashley Neal: "Undertaking almost always proceeds poor lane discipline"
The bmw was still going way too fast though
@ doesnt matter, you arent a police officer thats not for you to deal with. He undertook cause of the poor lane discipline from the cammer
4:16 People who drive like that should not be allowed to drive cars like that. You're driving a piece of motoring history, treat it with some respect.
03:49 - Christian, use the inside lane. Middle lane hogger!!
1:12 - What you whining about? There was more than enough space for both of you, as proven by the fact that both of you got through the space without needing to brake or take any kind of avoiding action.
And as bad as the white car then pulling out on him is, he also turns into it slightly. Both incidents show Michael lives to make as much of a situation as possible
Rumour has it Michael is still using the horn
"any kind of avoiding action"... Did you not see the cammer have to swerve out the way?? I think you'll find that's "just enough" space, which allows no room for the un-expected, so is not "more than enough".
@@konradgreen2567 there was space on the cammers left
He looks the type that goes round trying to goad people for clips
Christian, fancy submitting a clip showing you parked in the middle lane and then getting all high and mighty about other people's driving.
Do you think Christian's driving was in any way comparable to that of the BMW?
@@F1shF4c3 Well, they both fall under driving without due care.
@@oceandrive7283 Possible, but police are unlikely to take any action against the cammer for what's in the clip, and somewhat more likely to take action against the BMW driver. That reflects the extreme difference in risk that each poses.
1:25 yes the other drivers were i the wrong but "Micheal" really needs to take a chill pill. Loke many on the road taking things way too much to heart. Nothing happened just chill, laugh at thier stupidity and drive on. With the amount of bad drivers on the road you make every drive miserable if you drive angry or take every incident to heart.
That first clip is yet another example of drivers mistaking a roundabout for a racetrack
5:30 Was Rosie being towed in the outside lane as well as lane hogging? That's awfully close to the car in front at 60-70mph.
On tow with the majority of the UK drivers. At 55mph.
I assume they often do this to prevent people from popping out from the side (albeit clear here), or undertaking.
Incredible the awareness they allegedly have in the grip levels, and reaction times (helped by a fixation on the car ahead); and will still do this on a rural road at 50; yet unable to do 60 in a national. Amazing.
All cynicism aside, we can’t truly tell what happened here. The CamCar might claim they had a 2 second gap until moments before the clip, and were forced to brake because the car ahead broke. Who knows.
3:37 dear me Dave L! It's priority to the right to vehicles on the roundabout. That Nissan was to your right and on the roundabout before you!
Glad someone else is here seeing the same as me, thought I was missing something with the other vehicles
I think that it was actually a side road onto the road the cammer was on, and not a direct emerge onto the mini. But you can't really tell because the road markings are so degraded, and I'm sure the Nissan thought it was a direct emerge too.
The car appeared to be emerging from a side road before the roundabout, but it's impossible to tell where the roundabout actually starts.
The junction emerges onto the roundabout and is the only leg of the roundabout with a Give Way sign and markings.
The road the cammer is on has a “Priority to the right” sign with appropriate give way markings for that sign and needs to yield to the other vehicle
Is a rather strange set up, Lloyd St, Stafford - where the Nissan emerges from isn't set up like the other entrances to the roundabout On approach the only signs are give way - on a post and on the road, Unlike all the other entrances no mini roundabout signs, and also the only road that has the dashed line on the entrance side.
By design layout it looks more like its supposed to be a regular T junction you would join the cam cars road from first then make your way on to the roundabout, But is set too far into the roundabout for that to be sensible....
1:15 oh poor you Michael. That car nicked a bit of space and you were crying about it. Poor you 😥
5:01 We always focus on the negatives, but let's have some positivity, too. By driving in a staggered formation the cammer avoids any unpleasantness caused by the Fusion's error.
Nicely done, FG!
0:35 - Nissan not blameless, but the BMW driver is a prick. Way too fast, making no attempt to actually go around the roundabout, would have been nowhere near a crash if they had slowed down instead of just going straight over the middle.
Nissan was blameless. They were on the roundabout whist the BMW was 2 time-zones away.
@@darthkek1953when they enter the roundabout, we can see the BMW approaching, even from the cammer's footage.
They're absolutely not blameless
Those road markings you can see mean give way, the BMW completely ignored them, Rule 185 "Check whether road markings allow you to enter without giving way" you give way to vehicles on the roundabout (the Juke in this clip) Rule 185 "watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout" oh and give priority to vehicles on the right applies to those on the roundabout only.
@@darthkek1953 The reason why I say the Nissan wasn't blameless, even though they had priority in that situation, is because one should look not just to see whether there is anybody else waiting to join the roundabout, but at whether there is anybody approaching it. If the Nissan driver had looked a little bit further down the road they would have seen the BMW approaching in a manner that made it very obvious they weren't going to stop, and they could have changed their actions and prevented the crash.
Blameless is possibly the wrong word as technically the Nissan didn't do anything wrong as far as the law goes, but their driving could have been significantly better.
@@ColonelSebastianDoyle The reason why I say the Nissan wasn't blameless, even though they had priority in that situation, is because one should look not just to see whether there is anybody else waiting to join the roundabout, but at whether there is anybody approaching it. If the Nissan driver had looked a little bit further down the road they would have seen the BMW approaching in a manner that made it very obvious they weren't going to stop, and they could have changed their actions and prevented the crash.
Blameless is possibly the wrong word as technically the Nissan didn't do anything wrong as far as the law goes, but their driving could have been significantly better.
4:36 Was the silver vehicle indicating right? No. Did Emily attempt to overtake the vehicle to the nearsside, contrary to the Highway Code? Yes.Had there been accident would she have received a CD10? Yes.
First clip: the blue BMW was not even near the roundabout when the other car entered it. Clearly carrying too much speed and just expected to barrel through.
Exactly. This is why we Dutch have the rule: traffic on the roundabout has priority. In the UK it is traffic approaching from the right has priority.
@@gerhard6105 Must give way to traffic already on the roundabout in the UK also. People just presume to give way to the right still but the Highway Code has changed from 40 years ago lol
@cooperhughes2659 aha, okay, good to know. Thanks 👍
That hashed line across the road donates that you are entering a new section of road. As such, you give way to whoever is already on that section of road. Just as you would if you if you were on a smaller road coming up to a T-junction with the same hashed line in front of you.
Just because the BMW was to the right, doesn't mean he can just keep his foot planted on the accelerator like a w⚓.
@@gerhard6105 Many people don't understand Highway code rule 188 (approach mini-roundabouts the same way as normal roundabouts - you give way to drivers on the (mini)roundabout - not from upcoming streets). They think a mini roundabout is to be approached as a regular intersection with a white dot in the middle. So if you approach from the right you should get priority (and that's what the BMW driver did).
Also, I'm glad we don't have these stupid inventions in The Netherlands, who ever thought this was good idea didn't know much about traffic and safety at all.
Zijn onze rotondes toch een stuk beter ontworpen ;-)
9:55 I wouldn't be going that fast past stationary traffic for a start.
Exactly, defensive driving out of the window so of course there's an interesting gap &...bang! Slower, watch for these gaps in case someone is doing this, avoid accidents 😊
4:30 Emily, she needs to watch some Ashley Neal videos and learn not to make a drama.
And stay in staggered formation on roundabouts.
I find it best to just assume that everyone else on the road is completely incompetent and/or not paying attention.
I won't comment on how often that actually turns out to be the case.
Christian be driving in that middle lane until his exit comes then cries about people undertaking
Yes Emily should’ve taken more precautions. That being said, it’s a multi lane roundabout with a multi lane exit. As many others have said the same, the other car should’ve checked the blind spot, indicated, checked again and then, if it was safe, to manoeuvre into the lane he wanted to be in.
Always remember; mirror, signal, manoeuvre
Dont undertake on roundabouts and beep at people coming off. It is very simple. What are thhey supposed to do stay in the lane and forever keep going round the thing? Utter nobs
what many drivers forget regarding lanes.
it's OK to be in the wrong lane for something.
but you should always mirror check and INDICATE before moving to correct lane!
Some people seem to forget that when they’re driving, they’re at the controls of a ton (or in some cases two or even more) of metal and plastic moving at significant velocity and physics will still apply to you no matter how much of a hurry you’re in or how important you think you are.
That upload backfired for Christian 😂
3:35 Due to the poor state of the road markings the other vehicle may have thought they were emerging directly onto the mini roundabout and thus had priority.
They did, check the junction on Google maps, the car "pushing in" is leaving Lloyd Street Stafford, cammer is on goal road.
@@petersylvester2905 From google it looks like cammer did not have priority.
@@manchegocheese997 Is a rather strange set up, Lloyd St, Stafford - where the Nissan emerges from isn't set up like the other entrances to the roundabout On approach the only signs are give way - on a post and on the road, Unlike all the other entrances no mini roundabout signs, and also the only road that has the dashed line on the entrance side.
By design layout it looks more like its supposed to be a regular T junction you would join the cam cars road from first then make your way on to the roundabout, But is set too far into the roundabout for that to be sensible....
@@andyp315 it's always been a bit of a mess and it needs remarking but it's just to be treated as one roundabout with every road joining being equal, so in this clip the cammer was definitely wrong.
3:33 dave L i think you'll find it's you who needed to giveway to the nissan on your RIGHT!
Is a rather strange set up, Lloyd St, Stafford - where the Nissan emerges from isn't set up like the other entrances to the roundabout On approach the only signs are give way - on a post and on the road, Unlike all the other entrances no mini roundabout signs, and also the only road that has the dashed line on the entrance side.
By design layout it looks more like its supposed to be a regular T junction you would join the cam cars road from first then make your way on to the roundabout, But is set too far into the roundabout for that to be sensible....
I came here to say that! Cam car should be giving way to them!
Weird setup, the side street the Nissan emerged from has to give way to both directions as is obvious from older Streetview photos but the roundabout has been enlarged so it physically has to emerge onto the roundabout instead of onto the road the cammer was on.
@@JamesClarke-v2y Read the comment before yours, you can look up the street on google street view. The emerging car is not emerging onto a roundabout, he's merging with cam-cars road, so in fact, the cammer has priority here. In the video you can see that there are two dashed white lines rather than the 1 dashed line for the roundabout.
wrong. it is a t junction right before the roundabout. Not the first time this junction has been on the cam channels.
Stephen T. I would definitely be anticipating an emerge there. The driver was obstructed.
4:34 i feel like you’re going a bit too fast for the roundabout, slow down Emily
nob of the week emily
seconded
3:12 did that white car (two in front of cam car) not have ant lights on.?? Or am I looking wrong
I tried Ant lights on my car but they were hopeless
rear lights weren’t on but headlights were on
What are these, headlights for ants!?
I guess the DRL's (daytime running lights) are so bright that the driver thought they had lights on. Its crazy the amount of cars i see driving at night without lights on since all new cars had to have DRL's. Any car with DRL's should have auto lights by law but the fools that make up these new laws don't think them through properly!
6:20 if the red car moves into lane 1 he doubles the chance of confusion; by staying in the outside lane he allows you to take evasive action.
and then a bit of road rage from Murdock B when he unnecessarily swerves back to lane 2
6:08 - Bloody hell, that driver should lose their damn license for that.
Always the red cars!
Given that it looks like there is a side gate along that fence, it's unbelievably dangerous.
Should definitely lose their licence for that, yes.
9:20 they seem to have noticed the bus lane but I can't make the sign out, it's only a bus lane at certain times and the dashcam vid shows 12.55 and the road seems quiet so it's likely outside the bus lane times.
One near me that's only a bus lane 3.30-6pm and you'd be amazed how many people don't drive in it. You even get people beeping their horn at you now and then because they think you're driving in a bus lane.
Free lane for the people who know how to use it 😎. Apart from when there’s a bus at the bus stop and no one lets you into the right lane to go round it. Swings and roundabouts
Well done for clocking on. It is Calder Road in Edinburgh nearly all of the bus lanes in the city are 7.30am to 9.30am and 4pm to 6.30pm. It is well sign posted. It's shocking how many people avoid it but at the end of the day you can't be changing lanes like that for any reason. You have to check it's safe first.
@@pocky1scot1 Exactly, they just saw 'bus lane' and tried to immediately get out of it even though they didn't even need to. Pulling straight into the cammer nearly. Close one.
Thanks and 1:09 that's my old local road - that bit to the lake grounds on the right always has people trying to cut across it.. 2:38 yup.. that's what happens when you hotwire a car.
Christian = W4nker of the week!!!!
Dave L's is a bit confusing.
Most of the painted lines are worn away. So, is that junction part of the mini roundabout, or before it...?
Last clip: well at least that's two Mercs that'll be off the road for a while getting fixed. Berk in a Merc meets Berk in a Merc!
9:45 - And that is why you DO NOT fly down the side of static traffic ffs
"File protected"
Add a p in front and it’s kier Starmer
3:33 very strange layout but the cammer does appear to be correct. There are no blue roundabout signs on the road the Nissan is on and they have double dash lines and a give way triangle so must give way to traffic from both directions and that road is not part of the mini roundabout. It probably should be to avoid confusion.
1:34 Steve provides evidence of himself tailgating dangerously.
Let's all camp in the right hand lanes!!
4:00 Of course it was a lane-hogger 🙄
@ 3:09 is it me or has the Audi driver not got his lights on? or are lights an optional extra with Audi's Like indicators on a BMW?
realised when i submitted the clip, looks like their rear lights are both gone out but headlights are working🤦♂️
@derendila Could just be their day light running lights. Good capture 👍
2:56 see this on almost a daily basis at these lights. Ever since the council changed the city centre loop and made this part 2 way instead of 1 way there are near misses all the time
File protected.
BBC version is the same but starts with "Paedo"
@@darthkek1953wtf ?
@@darthkek1953 This isn't the BBC news comment section though. Bit irrelevant here.
What
“They actually hit didn’t they” 😂
The Watford litterbug, for me that would be a capital offence. Hate people like that
Did not see what it was that was thrown. I confess to throwing the odd "seed bomb" out of my window when nobody is looking, native wild flower seeds wrapped in a mud ball.
@@andyalder7910 … ‘native wild flower’ seeds, eh! I think I can smell what you’re saying, Sensei … and, it smells ‘sweet af’ if you get my drift. 🤔😉✌️🤘
lots of comments on my clip at 3:58 - interesting to see how it looks to others, as watching it back it does indeed look like I'm lane hogging (which I also hate btw). In the front clip, you can see a Jag in lane 1 and another white car ahead of me in lane 2. While the rear clip was going on, both were in the left lane and I was catching, then the white car moved out. When this happened, the Jag booted it, and I backed off (you can see my speed reduce from the back to front clip). I was about to pull back in when I checked behind and saw this guy coming across - I pulled back in after he had come through.
8:15 that's normal for.uber drivers I Nuneaton they don't look don't care and heads up their arseholes
The first clip shows the car on the roundabout which was hit by the BMW. The car was clearly on the roundabout and the BMW approaching from the right should have slowed down so the BMW is at fault .
@Clubbow5 Incorrect, You give way to the right at roundabouts my man, not the left. Cars approaching roundabouts dont give way to vehicles already on it, no where in the highway code does it say this. You do however have to give way to vehicles APPROACHING from the right before you enter the roundabout. Juke driver didnt give way to the BMW approaching from the right, therefore is liable for the collision, it doesnt matter if the Juke arrives at the roundabout first.
3:47 Fella, you're in the middle lane not moving anywhere.
6:20 Murdock B bitches about lane hogs whilst doing exactly that
Also decided to undertake rather than brake at all.
How..
@@secularspectator we don't do the whole Native American thing any more
@tourettispaghetti3739 OK beeg chief, still can't see it.
I don't think they wrote the caption
Rosie - *You* were flashed, not the van. 5:40
Steve i suggest you google the van doing the dodgy over take at the junction and email them stating you sent your video to the police and wait to hear back, it will probably be along the lines of the firm doesn't tolerate driving like that and will start a discussion with the driver and investigate it.
01:05. No, the BMW was driving through, not around, the roundabout and at excessive speed.
7:17 - 🎶 _Come on and let me knowww!!!_
Last clip, I would creep to get a better look through the windows
4:16 - I'm actually stunned that someone would drive like that in a 1950s car. There aren't many things that do that in dashcam videos these days, but that is one of them.
First clip; add the fact that BMW went OVER the roundabout with nary an attempt to go ROUND it, and I'd like to think BMW driver was found 50% to blame...
I make it 90%. BMW boy was attempting to straight-line the roundabout at speed with no regard for other road users.
@manchegocheese997 I'd love for it to be 90%, but I fear that the "Give way to the right!" claim will be successfully trumpeted...
Awesome Video
6:43 I’m glad you survived that terrifying incident.
i think a lot of these bad drivers are very thick, a normal person never drives like that, but we continue to give anyone that applies a licence
the private plate on the vw told me everything i needed to know
the private plate told you that the TT cant drive?!
The last one "would you have turned here or waited for the cars to be clear"
Nah mate I'd rather not wait and crash like that idiot aswell 🤣 silly question
The thing about roundabouts is the first rule of giving way isn’t to the right, it’s giving way to those already on the roundabout. First clip I’d say the fella that got hit was over the line and locked in before the BMW came screaming into them.
When I 1st started driving back in 1993. There was know where near as well I wouldn't say have the numpties on the road as there is today I wouldn't say less than half there was very few.but now it's horrible out there.half have no lane discipline or when to use indicators correctly or even judge situations.by all means I don't go round claiming I am the best driver in the world.but least I use common sense when it's needed like lane discipline reading situations looking a head of a situation maintaining safe gap in front of a car until some numpty decides to fill it in.indicators use correctly speed limiter used here there and everywhere.and still get home without causing any situation or stress to my self.but it seems to cause stress to others because either not going fast enough or I am going to slow.you just can't win 😂
0:30 Yep, BMW came in way too fast. Black car was almost fully inside the roundabout before the BMW even got to the give way line. And then the BMW completely cut over the roundabout, effectively going on the wrong side of the road. 100% blame on the BMW.
1:20 I agree with the guy. Stop telling him not to shout. He needs to get it out of his system and then he'll come down. You telling him not to shout means he's now going to direct that anger at you and remain pissed for the rest of the drive. It's not like he got out for a fight. Let the man vent, for crying out loud.
1:33 You are allowed to cross hatched areas bound by intermittent lines. It's questionable in this situation, though.
3:46 If you don't want BMW drivers running circles around you, maybe quit hogging the middle lane and pay more attention to your rear view mirrors.
5:40 Or maybe it was the white car in front. Maybe it's one of those new cameras that can detect when you're slowing down before a speed trap. I have been wondering how those determine that you're actually slowing down, and if they're doing it correctly. As in, if I'm in a 70 and slowing down from 70 to 60 because there's a bit of traffic ahead, is it going to flash me?
8:28 Had one of those once. Opened her door right in front of in a petrol station. I was obviously going slow, but it was like 3m in front of me. Then she got out and walked off without even looking behind her to see if there's any cars there. Some people are completely oblivious.
9:41 Would have turned, but would have paid more attention. And the cammer should have paid more attention too. You saw the gap in the column. You saw the street on the left. It's obvious that someone is going to try to cut across.
3:50 that’s a cracking manoeuvre by the BMW tbh
Is this a roundabout or a straight road??they all seem to have a giveway marking on the road ??
i have a fear of ending up on one of these videos LOL
I hope that everyone who posts a video up on to this site or any other also sends another copy off to the relevant police forces.
Also 8:24 letting that taxi out. NO. Usual suspects driving, they'll continue doing it with people like you letting them out. Goes for Audi drivers too.
@9:42 that's a major road in Nottingham and the industrial estate to the left often has people pulling in and pulling out of it blindly. Also the traffic is so heavy it's never smart to pull across with out looking. .. if that was me I wouldn't turn right into it I would go round the roundabout and come back the same way the cam is travelling to make the turn. It takes an extra minute or two but avoids all this.
Cruise control is both the best and worst addition to car comfort. It's great on a long drive, but people then use it to say "I'm doing the speed limit" when they're in anything but the inside lane.
On 4 lane motorways, the inside may as well not actually be there, as most drivers refuse to acknowldege its existence
3:48 you're in the middle ****ing lane, why?
Michael, I feel your pain, not only from idiots on the road but the missus has to pipe up and say " calm down ". Like, this is the real reasons for the use of anger, why wouldnt I apply it to this scenario!
Stopped the video to read the comments about Christian. Not disappointed 👍
What I take from is that the Highway code needs to be update urgently to account for the modern world and keep up with what is obviously an imported new set of driving styles. Globalization of vehicle driving. Oh and that it is an absolute fact that us bikers can never do no wrong, so there.
Now there is something that is rare. A T-bone crash in a roundabout.
Rosie has absolutely no idea why she’s sitting in the outside lane…but she’s not changing for anyone!
If the BMW in the first clip had gone around the mini round about properly that collision wouldn't have happened.
@MrAnderson-gz4ps It would have also been avoided if the Juke driver gave way to approaching vehicles to the right, as per rule 185 in the highway code
Maxim S 3:20 - so much to unpack here. Spun on a roundabout, someone pushing in from the emerging lane into the roundabout, Audi doesn’t have their lights on… where do people get their licenses? 🤦♂️
granted in the first clip the black car should've gave way to the right. but the BMW driver should always assume something like this is going to happen and be prepared to react. Cos we do have bad drivers everywhere.