Dodge V 10 Crankshaft Position Sensor Dilemma No Parts Available
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- Dodge Ram 8.0 V-10 Magnum hard to find Crankshaft Position Sensor.
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About a week after this was filmed, the two I ordered (again) from Rock Auto arrived. I installed one. The problem is solved.... for now. After new year I will install the other ones that came from Big Easy at Coastal Auto Reaction. TH-cam Channel.
I've been following your channel sense you purchased the truck for your son. I bought the short bed quad cab version from my father in-law. His has 80k on the odometer and is an automatic. A while back I read on the Mopar forums that sensors for this engine were getting hard to find. Your issue has proven them right. I'll be following along to see how you resolve this.
I have a 01 Ram 2500 v10 I was able to order over Amazon check it out on there
Crank position sensor part # PC161
@@tommyboy9407
I found it on 1-A auto and possibly Auto geek.com
Thank you for the update.
Nice truck! Mines a automatic wish it was a stick. My truck has weird issue where it runs funny at part throttle under load.. idles fine and at wide open throttle but sometimes it's running like crap between like 2500-3500 rpm. I have trouble getting parts since I've had the truck over 10 years ago. 98+was more desirable year Mines a 97 unfortunately. I have no engine codes either really frustrating..
I've had my 98 V10 ram 3500 since 2002. About 9 years ago I had this exact problem. Changed every sensor you can think of. Crank, cam, throttle etc even changed the coil packs. Back then you could still get it all at local parts stores. It finally one day wouldn't even turn over anymore, it just cranked and cranked and cranked. It ended up being the ECU. So I ordered a new one of those. Never had a problem since. Back in the day I hauled a big RV cross country with it. It has been my ranch truck pulling round bail trailers with it and it has pretty much been my daily driver. And, this is the only repair besides an alternator an idler pulley to the motor I have had to make. I had to repair the CAD on the front axle and have replaced the front hubs a few times. It's a 5 speed so it has never gone down on my like an automatic would have. I've changed the clutch once. After 18 years of owning this truck I will probably die with my V10.
The ECU on these early dodges had a connection problem, the connectors would pull back and make bad contacts and occasionally fry the ECU, zip tieing the connectors to the ECU can help prevent that.
These are so cool man. Keep the ol girl. Currently on the look for ome as a fun vehicle
one of the reasons for the v10 gas engine was here in canada you bought a dodge truck with a v10 the government would pay you to covert it to run on propane or natural gas so in other words you got the job done free and the engine was free too, and at the time there was no modern gas engines out there for 3/4 ,1 ton and up medium duty trucks
There are a few known spots, I believe 3, within the engine harness where the 5v feed wire will have a failure in a solder joint. All of the sensors on the truck run off a single feed, so trace back the wire from each sensor to find the joints. One is close to the crank sensor, one is around the a/c compressor and one is near the throttle body.
I know this video is old. I watched it when you first bought the truck for your son.
I had just recently purchased my own V10 truck. I my own truck is not needed for work.
But I was hoping to see you work on this project. Nevertheless, I enjoyed this project.
Thanks for letting us ride along.
The coil packs can be ordered and swapped from the Dodge Viper. I verified it today. Same price. 4 pack coil was more expensive by double the cost of the 6 pack. Ram or Viper.
I'm still waiting a week and a half later for them to ship lug nuts from 80 miles away.
So yeah not particularly thrilled with RA right now either.
Steve, it seems that it shuts itself off when you “walk up to it” !!!!! Do you think maybe it just doesn’t like you???? (LOL)
She did improve and stall less with the camera on her.
tazgee how's driving your mom's Prius everyday going?
@@freighttrainjoe or a Nissan titan. 🤣🤣
@@mathewgassen7369 😂😂😂😂
@@mathewgassen7369 , I got a "not interested" from Steve when I suggested Junior trade in the Dodge for a F 250.
I remember back in the late 90's Freightliner offered a 2-3 ton truck that had the Dodge V10 gas engine in it.Did not last long on the sales list.
What exact model was it from Freight Liner was it
I'll just put this here. The Fire Department here had a Dodge V-10 response vehicle. The engine blew and they wanted a new one, so, I put one in. Out of the crate moved parts one to another and I installed it without having any trouble. Got it running, cycled through 4 heat changes and test drove the truck. Next day I ran a simulated emergency run and all was well. They picked up the truck and 3 days later had it towed back to me with a no start condition and was coded Crankshaft Sensor intermittent. Changed the sensor and returned the truck only to have it brought back on the hook! Sometimes a guy gets a bad part so I replaced it with Dodge parts. Same thing? Dang!!! After spending HOURS surfing and reading and talking and trying, Dodge put out a service warning about this same issue. I could replace the part for infinity and the same issue would bare its ugly head! Why??? According to the service advisory, when enough engine wear occurs or the "EXCITER" ring isn't in the exact position the Crankshaft Sensor will not work properly if at all. The engine manufacturer came down, removed the engine, pulled the pan, checked the travel on the main bearings back and forth. The travel was in "spec" but when he checked the "Exciter Ring," it was, I can't remember the thousandths off but it would never run with that Crankshaft. He brought another engine, showed us that the wrong Crankshaft was used in building and rebuilt the new engine and replaced it and its been gone for 7 months now. Just letting you know that the sensor may be okay but there may be other deeper problems. I also had a Hemi that acted the same way with intermittent run that had a broken wire that took a week on and off to find until I got frustrated (pissed) and pulled on the wires until I pulled the broken wire apart! Ohm the wires back to the computer and check the connectors then go deeper. Just a thought. Thanks for sharing your story with us! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Your comment is interesting given his truck is a manual and will see higher thrust load compared to an auto truck. Checking crankshaft endplay is free and easy to do.
Check your fuel pressure.My 5.3 gm did the same thing.Changed two crank sensors.Changed fule pump been fine since.
I saw seven of them on Amazon, check if it is the right one. Made by Walker. Four year warranty available.
mine was Fire Department owned shes a 99 4x4 with the V10 with 99k miles, when she was a baby with 38k miles in 2007 they replaced the cam sensor and the ECU, truck was just retired 3 months ago and she runs like a top
I've owned on since 2004, it's a 2001 and never had a problem with it at all.
Love your vids this year been a blast watching hope you have a very merry Christmas and a happy new year to you and your family from Geoff in New Zealand.
@Geoffrey Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Hello hope you are doing great
Will love to know you if you dont mind
@@jennifersmith8151 merry christmas
@@jennifersmith8151 yes no probs and merry Christmas and a happy new year to you and your family to.
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Love the channel! I would get a scope pattern of the old sensor and compare that to the new sensor after you have fitted it. Also ohm readings of the old sensor and new sensor, record those and compare later if the new sensor fails again. Another thought is you might be able to find a different sensor that would fit the block but have a different harness connector. Change the harness connector and you should be good to go.
If it comes to that I will video my progress.
Yeah every time a yard gets a v10 in I take the crank sensor off of it I will say I’m happy dodge didn’t make them a different length for manual transmissions because I would never be able to find one
I’m with you man, I’m fed up with Rock Auto as well! I’ve purchased a few items from them, thinking that I was getting a great deal. When they arrived, and I went to install them, I found out why they were so cheap. They were of low quality, and none of the holes lined up. The parts that they were replacing, had lasted 6 years, I only got 1 year out of the parts from Rock Auto.
Good luck with that hunk of junk. My buddy has one that slowly turning into a flower bed as he can't find valve train components. I'd say it's good time for a 12v swap.
My friend has one that he built for pulling its strong as shit , I've seen him smoke almost every diesel pickup out there not sure how much torque it's making but it's a bad sob.
Also check all the wiring in the loom.
I would be looking for a lose or corroded wiring plug that is not monitored by the ECM circuit in a vehicle that old as you have no engine check light coming on, crank position sensor will usually throw up a engine check light. I have seen a simple but over looked lose battery terminal create these cutting out problem as well as main power feed wires inside plastic connectors plugs. This is one of those terrible problems to find unless you just happen to touch the right wire and have the engine cut out sometimes.
Hate when they discontinue parts!
Still make sensors iam on parts geek looking as we speak 🗣
Something to try is a Camshaft sensor Crankshaft sensor sync. I don't have much experience with these engines but some engines the camshaft has some adjustment to its placement. You do need a Oscilloscope to do this. what you are doing is lining up the cam sensor signal to the crank sensor signal which in turn will tell the computer where the motor is in its rotation so the computer can fire the fuel injectors and fire the ignition coils at the correct time.
Sounds like an ECM problem. If you don’t continue to have an engine light on and the sensor is “resetting” itself and letting the engine restart, the sensor isn’t bad. Find a good electronic diagnostic guy and have them checked out. @SouthMainAuto is a great diagnostic guy. However he’s in NY.
so you pull all the coils put Subaru one in and run it to a hellcat ECU fix you can end the crank sensor buy cutting two wires and twisting them together this will tall the ECU that its work an edob2 will help as well you can go in and drop the codes
That sounds like a $1000 fix for a $10 problem.
Have you checked the fuel filter? Maybe a fuel pressure regulator?
Yeah I'd be done with that...it's gonna leave ya sitting somewhere.
I have read the newer sensor will work. The difference is the connector. All you need to do is swap the old connector onto the newer sensor. I hope this helps.
Take the throtal body off and clean also make sure the number 5 and 7 plug wires arnt crossed or touching..
Have you tried Amazon? I have bought plenty of parts for my 1988 Ford F250 7.3 IDI diesel truck. Good prices usually and free shipping. I was amazed at what they have for the truck. After Christmas I'm ordering a new tailgate thru them.
The v10 magnum engine was an over built gas engine to compete with the Cummins. I bought 2 cam sensors and only one crank for mine. I switched the cam and it was the crank.
go to freightliner the used that engine in their FL series city delivery trucks, why? daimler had their paws on chrysler when this engine was in production
Maybe shave down the flange on the sensor 5 or 10 thousandth of an inch to get it closer to the ring. Scope the signal too. I still want to buy these trucks
I work at AutoZone I drive a Dodge I see this all the time I agree you probably do need a better cam sensor try Amazon but you also have an An idle air control sensor replace it and clean the fuel rail / throttlebody . And check the fuel pressure just to be sure if it’s stalling out then you should be losing spark altogether it shouldn’t restart that’s why I don’t feel it’s just the cam sensor cam sensors go out they go out they don’t work and then start and stop
Love the fact the the dodge that has problems still had to pull a Ford lol 🤣🤣🤣
Had a 85 Chevy cavalier 2.8l that would eat sesensors of all kinds. Finally got tired and replaced the computer with a remanufactured one and never had another problem again! Would probably still have it today if someone knucklehead didn't run a stop sign.
Vancouver BC Canada is called..
MINI CALIFORNIA...
Hardly ever any snow during the winter months...
Beautiful city. My wife and I visited at the end of a cruise. Visited the zoo and took the bus over to that island where all the tourists shop (forget the name). Would have liked to stay longer but had to catch a plane back to Atlanta.
@@Tom-In-Ga hi from Vancouver canada might be Granville island . Great place to have fun
@@kevinwallace4744 Yep! That's the place and you're right. Had a great time. That was a couple years ago before all this Covid crap. Now we're stuck at home looking at pictures.
The crank sensor on mine will randomly get stuck at 5v instead of switching between 0v and 5v. Scoped the CKP, CMP and ASD output; CKP is first to fail, then truck stalls. I had scoped back probed at PCM pins. CKP replaced 6 months ago. Seems like the PCM is doing its job of supplying 5Vref to the CKP, but the sensor itself seems to be shorting to 5vref? I'll try cleaning the connector at front of engine.
Love when the truck dies at a busy city intersection and I have no way to restart engine.
Good morning.
Needs more videos like this
These were amazing engines back in the day, but parts are getting hard to find now that Chrysler (Fiat) is discontinuing parts for them.
Check the ground wire going to your crank sensor mine had 1. 97 volts because someone removed the ground which is on top of the motor and it's supposed to ground with your battery ground on the front of the block someone put my ground on top of the air conditioning mount bolt and mine were lasting about 3 to 4,000 miles after changing every sensor I could that Mopar still had available I fixed the ground and so far so good
What ever happened with this v10? These are available relatively inexpensively and a lot of people really like these. Hope you got to the bottom of this.
So what you’re telling me is that you should sell it and end your misery of that V10 nightmare.
Good morning O’Reilly’s auto parts I have a1997 Dodge ram 2500 turbo diesel and down here in Bossier city Louisiana we can find parts
He’s got a v10 not a Cummins
I thought you were hauling that Ford to the junkyard.
I have a 02, 2500 with the magnum. The last of the Gen 2's which is a variable in parts also. Anything 02 and newer is the new body style in a 1/2 ton. Broke a leaf spring and it was $$$.
It actually Might be your Camshaft postion sensor if it was your crank position sensor it have a no start condition but the cam pos is JUST as hard if not worse
I feel your pain with the dodge. I had a 2007 ford f150, with the biggest piece of junk motor the 5.4 Triton. Thousands of people got screwed over by ford with that motor.
Those motors where junk it was either the ignition system or the cam phasers/ timing chains
Yea the new ford 5L has a problem burning an excessive amount of oil , fords fix was a new dip stick
Whenever I decide to buy a Ford truck.
There are 2 engines to avoid. The Triton and Ecoboost.
Triton 3v was awful, the 2v were better except for the spark plug issue which was not as common as you think. The triton 4.6 and 2v 5.4 were reliable if well maintained.
Sounds like my problem with trying to find a genuine cam sensor for my 95 Powerstroke. The factory ones last for ever but now seems all I can find are cheap junk ones that like to go bad after about a year. Even Motorcraft positive battery cables for this said F350 Powerstroke are impossible to find. Was calling Ford dealers all the way in Alaska trying to find one. Oh and at 11:18 I've asked the same question my self so many times that if I had a dollar every time someone did that I'd be rich now.
I have a 1996 dodge ram v10 but I can never make it turn on the first start in cold, I already changed the maf sensor, cables, spark plugs, air filter, any ideas?? is very hard to start
Look at the freeze frame data. See what is lost. Some one has got to have a NOS CPS somewhere. I think there may be achange in the number on the reluctor teeth on the crank. I'v seen it with the Hemi v8 years ago.
Lol Foreigner I LOVE it we got Ya Bro 👍🏻 I sent your sensors today Brother 👍🏻
You seem to have more trouble backing up that little trailer 😅😅
When I read this comment I had to laugh to myself. Years back, I was driving my wife's little car in NYC and took at least 10 minutes to parallel park it. I turned to my wife and said I could back my old Road Commander II COE with 45' trailer (yes, it's been awhile) into a blind side back-in and do it in one shot but I can't park her little POS mustang for the life of me.
Used to the cabovers 🤣
Check my videos on the 8L V10 2500 I have the part number for the Crank sensor listed in Video.
12v swap or any mechanical diesel swap it!
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Crank position sensor if I would have to guess I had that problem with my Ford Ranger.
U have an 02 ram with a v10,321,534 miles on her,she has the 5 speed auto
What about clearance to the reluctor wheel?
I got a '76 f_250 7.3 power stroke. 122 thousand miles,and that thing will start up on one key turn. never had any luck with chrysler or dodge.
I know this is and old video but have you replaced the fuel pump? I have a 99 with 138k on it and that was the problem with the one I have was doing the exact same thing.
Got the same transmission as the Cummins, so your half way there, think I saw you can p-pump a 24 valve 5.9 Cummins, those v10 motors are unicorns to aftermarket must pull like a freight train tho!
Rockauto is good for the parts that don't need a warranty...and if you can justify buying in bulk because shipping is insane.
Seen freight liners do the same with it hesitation.
Mine did the same except the oxygen sensors weren't hooked up and ran fine soon as I hooked oxygen sensors it started and the engine light went out the it started stumbling until it would kick those sensors off and engine light came on again. Then it ran fine. I'm about to unhook them and see if it runs fine again. I did notice if I totally unhooked battery, it would I guess " reset it self " and run rough till it figured out it didn't have the oxygen sensors. Let you know how it acts when I unhook them
It's a 2001 ram 3500 8.0
You should put all the videos for the v10 in a playlist I’m looking into buying one this weekend
Stock up on crank position sensors.
too bad so sad. my 99 chevy 454 vortec runs minty no stall no lag no parts issues
I'm sure. But sometimes it's better to be different and not loose your truck at Walmart with the other identical trucks. Just sayin.
Clean your idle air control valve also check your purge valve
Check out Nick's garage. He has a TH-cam channel and is a Mopar guy.
Think it the cam sensor tho
Any parts I have to get for mine like that I have to go to a dealership. But my v10 pulls like a beast.
She pulled an F-150 on my trailer from New Jersey to Wisconsin at highway speeds with no trouble with the weight and hills.
@@fsctrucking but I have never ordered a crank sensor or camshaft sensor from the dealership but I figured it would be a good place to check
I have the same problem with my truck
But I like it
I went through hell a couple years ago with aftermarket crank sensors in my 93 Grand Cherokee 4.0L (OBD1). Ended up finding a genuine Mopar sensor on ebay and it finally solved the stumbling and stalling issues it was having.
It seems like the main computers are really the only things that electrically go bad on these trucks. That and the oil sending unit. That's it.
Not so comforting to hear that transmission parts may not be available for my 03 manual L4.7 1500 ram. Compulsory to buy a truck before its built in factory? 🤦🏻🤷🏻♂️
im in the same exact dilemma. cant find a sensor anywhere from anyone! help!!
It shares the same oil filters, coil packs, cam position sensor
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Try eBay, they have NOS sensors, $60.05 free shipping.
My 5.9 does same 01 dodge its the cam senser but it reads leak in evap system on mine
Call summit racing for an aftermarket sensor and wouldnt hurt to try lmc truck in kansas city
I'm about to pick up a 94 ram 3500 that has 381k that has a v10 in it
Ok, usually there's a code if the engine light is on, well it looked like the engine light was on...
You need either chap from south main auto or pine hollow auto diagnostics......they would fix you up
I know this is going to be taken the wrong way but have you had anyone hook up an analyzer. I get tired of replacing parts and then find out its the ecm.
I have a dodge ram 2500 4x4, that I will love if I get does mpg, that is the reason I was asking, my truck is stock it have a flatbed total weight for the truck is about 7,000 pounds and on the freeway not towing just give me 7 or 8 mpg
It all depends on its rear end ratio.
I see TONS of these V10 in junk yard here in canada...(ontario) bodies are rotten off them. But drive trains run great stillI
I got a large supplier here that finds just about anything....I'll call him see what we have it that helps...
I be interested in the names of the yards
Hero, I'm useless to you here but I looked at the comments and it looks like you got plenty. Good luck. P.S. you should be spending your money on the little truck you just put in storage. I drive a 1980 f-100 (if anybody knows why mine isnt a f-150 please explain.....most of these trucks I see from the 70's were f-150....it's 2 WD, 300 6cyl.,3-speed manual short W/B) Its a tough old truck. I hope you get Matt's truck fixed. You don't want him to get stranded somewhere. Later
F100 are ford rangers so you've got a light duty pickup
I've had that truck since 1995. I have big plans for her.
See if the screen on it is dirty, did that once on my calarodo truck
Part # 4 crank sensor?
What gear ratio there is your truck?
And thanks for the information there is hard to find any good help for this trucks
I think 3.40. Not sure. Plus we have a 5 speed manual.
Is the v10 dodge getting spark to all the cylinders
A stupid question, did you pull the codes?? If so what were they??
They still make crank sensors lol i just looked
my 5.9 durango did the same thing
Crankshaft positions sensors in Chrysler products can be problematic. I used to change the one in my 99 4.0 L Cherokee every 9 months as a preventive measure to avoid stranding issues and towing bills. Sorry this monster is giving you troubles.
Ya get the urge to float gears in the V10?? Or maybe you are !!! Ha
I did when the broken transmission snout killed the clutch.
You are a glutton for punishment 🧐 I read v_10 dodge, then chocked on my coffee. If anybody can do it, you can. Good God....,🤣
My dodge 1500 had a speed sensor in top rear axle
Mine does to