I definitely like Gab’s ending better. It’s a plot twist, subverts your expectations, and doesn’t fall into ‘the mentally ill person went crazy and offed everyone’ trope Mike being the perp 10/10
34:31 I used to work as a veterinary nurse. I can verify that BB is showing all the symptoms of being a Happy and Cozy Cat. I strongly recommend that you continue the care that you've been giving him. That face squish is just too precious!!! So handsome!!! So adorable!!!
@@crawfishpiI agree, considering he said he was using a "cocktail of pills" and he never really said that he ran out of the old pills, just that he believed they weren't as effective and started using the more expensive ones instead.
I don't know how to feel about another case of portraying a person with schizophrenia as a "crazy violent person who will kill everyone around because VOICES" when in fact (according to National Institutes of Health) "Most patients with schizophrenia will never be violent. For ever schizophrenic patient who commits a homicide, 100 will die by suicide." Lowkey wished Gab's first instinct was right and it was Mike all along, it made so much sense to me and it was more compelling than "yeah the schizophrenic guy skipped a dose and shot up his workplace"
Between Schizophrenia, DID, and Bipolar it's been such an over used trope since the 90s, paints such a negative picture for those experiencing any symptoms. Mostly when it becomes "the person" vs "a part of the person" the mental health doesn't define the person aside from possible processed information, but even then everyone is different and background/financial /social lives affect more than anything else. These stereotypes have negative affects on those who don't actively engage with such individuals and has a lot of presumptions placed on them. TLDR: don't define a personality by mental health there's more to people than one aspect.
this is what i was thinking too. i was so disappointed to learn it was nakamura after spending this entire video hoping it wasn't him too avoid this stereotype. people with schizophrenia are more likely to be victims of violence, not the other way around. it's getting old and it's demonizing
Yeah I really hate the narrative that "schizophrenic people are dAnGEroUs" when the most dangerous thing is the stigma keeping people from receiving the treatment they need, and insurance companies witholding funds for life-changing treatments like medications
31:44 gab solving a mystery, beeb sitting back like he’s enjoying the newest episode on tv, then there’s me “did this guy sign his kids bday card with his name instead of dad”
THANK you! I thought I was the only one who spotted that and was so confused lmao - and his full name too, not just his first name or a nickname or anything
From what I've seen theories for, Mike is still sort of responsible. Remember how Darren lost his pills from his car and yet they were on his desk? Could be possible that Mike took them and then placed them on his desk just before the interrogations just to mess with him. The dude did like his "jokes" and didn't like Darren. Still, would've been better if dirty cop did it. Also, there's a missing person poster in a cubicle or two referring to the guy from Painscreek. Nice universe this seems to be in.
I think the pig insulin is not necessarily only an insult (though it is still mean and suggestive). Back in the day diabetics used pig's insulin, as pigs' prancreas are the closest to humans. I think back in 1998 they still used it and it was probably cheaper than the insulin we use today. Though I did not fact-check myself, so please take it with a grain of salt, but I know the first insulin was from a pig's pancreas.
Not necessarily cheaper - the reason insulin is so expensive now is because the price has been artificially inflated (mainly in the US) which has caused severe problems worldwide. It's probably much cheaper to manufacture now, but capitalism gotta capitalism I guess.
in pharmacy they teach us that it’s for companies to pay off their research retroactively. 10-20 years of research isn’t free so if you can be the first to patent a drug or procedure, you get 10-15 years of a secured brand name to list your own price. unfortunately that gives way for big pharma to take place and they can do the LARGEST number possible but it’s overall just for pharmaceutical companies to earn back the money they spend for their research in clinical trials since if you as a patient sign up for them you can get reimbursed for liability, theres also the drug itself, the supplies, the staff, the place that is handling the trials (electricity, water, other utilities, etc) and much more! unfortunately, US is expensive but we have a full spectrum of care bc we have the access to the information. Now, for those who are less insured or uninsured, we have free clinics (i just finished a rotation at one in Ohio) and they are amazing for anyone: unemployed, between jobs, uninsured, insured but without a provider, or insured with too high of deductible costs. free clinics do not have the governing body telling us how short of visits. we could spend all day with a patient and care for them to their needs
Yeah another reminder that people not neurotypical are more likely to be victums of crimes and not criminals themselves. Also he would not have been on the force with that diagnosis and would defiently not be allowed a gun (even in the past).
man I really wish Gabs idea was what actually played out...my partner has schizoaffective disorder, it sucks to see this be another "the mentally ill person did it! mentally ill people are violent & dangerous!" plus besides how shitty that is, Gabs recreation actually made a lot more sense to me, it actually had depth & motive. Mike being the shooter was waaay more interesting & realistic.
As someone whos uncle developed Schizophrenia because of being a cop in the 70s, the ending to this really disapointed me. The second Nakamura was shown to be Schitzophrenic I got really worried but hoped the creators would have done their research. The biggest danger my uncle was to those around him was that he would spend all of his, and their, money on people who needed help. I may have been weirded out by him as a kid but I never felt afraid for my safety. It would have taken just 20 minutes of dedicated research, or even just one phone call to an expert to create a more realistic narrative that didn't rely on cheap jabs at the struggles of mental illness. 😔
My uncle developed schizophrenia while in the military and he sounds just like yours. He spends his days in his woodworking shop making beautiful wood furniture/knick knacks. I couldn't imagine him being violent a day in his life, he's genuinely the kindest person in the world. The "schizophrenic goes off their meds a day or two and goes on a murderous rampage" feels like a punch to the gut to everyone with or who knows someone with schizophrenia. So disappointing
@@vadimuha you are correct, Schizophrenia typically (but not always) is genetic and manifests after a highly traumatic event. While this is something we are still far from understanding there is some strong research linking schizophrenia to PTSD and survivors of serious phsychotic breaks. Neither of us are saying our uncles got schizophrenia because of their specific career. However, significant deeply traumatic events were the catalysts to the development of their symptoms.
While I can understand Nakamura being unmedicated and shooting Mike in a fit of rage, I don’t like how it further stigmatizes mental illness. Also, I don’t understand why it seems like the witness was shot way more than Mike based on the broken glass
I spy an anachronism! 27:40 The 5 dollar bill has the big purple 5 in the corner, which didn't come into circulation in the US until early 2008. The case being investigated is happening in 1998. It's not really a big deal in the grand scheme of things lol it's just something I remember talking to my friends about at school.
Spoiler alert: I agree that the storyline we believed happened with Mike being the shooter was a much better outcome than what I felt was adding more stigma to mental illnesses.
@@alyssatheexcellent How am I supposed to know it's the top comment? You don't get a notification and I've seen the video so I'm very unlikely to revisit it. I did edit it but it's not showing up so far at least for me. I'm sorry for ruining the experience for you.
@@Gloomcookie96 top comments are just selected randomly from ones that have a lot of likes so its not an official thing its just a term for literally the comment at the top of the section, it can also be different for everyone. also on iOS youtube the tab to open the comments section will cycle through a preview of comments. if youre not fullscreen and happen to look down even when the comment section is closed its pretty easy to accidentally read it, itll show any comments regardless of how many likes its got too, so when its a mystery based vid like this i always have to immediately full screen cause ive been spoiled a few times LOL 😭 its also just kinda safe to put a spoiler warning cause even on desktop the comment section shows immediately and someone might accidentally look down
Im definitely planning on getting this game. And off topic, everytime I fell asleep watching TH-cam, 90% of the time I wake up to Gab playing Nancy Drew. I have yet to watch a whole Nancy Drew video.
I always end up watching Gab's videos 3-4 times because I use them to fall asleep. Then the next day, I try to find where I last remember and continue from there lol
did anyone notice in one of the suspect files, one suspect had a rose tattoo on their hip? is that somehow related to the previous case cause i remember the pimp making the girls get a rose tattoo on their hip
other people have already said this, but i feel the need to add to it that the trope/stereotype of mentally ill people becoming violent criminals/mass murderers/otherwise dangerous people is demonizing, overused, and stigmatized. not saying at all that this is in any way contributed to by Evelien, but the game itself
If you like this style of gameplay I really recommend Return of the Obra Dinn - investigative mystery horror game in such a cool art style! No spoilers for anyone who wants to try it but it is SO Gab coded I'm surprised I haven't seen it here already!
if i remember correctly i think she might have played it on a stream that never got uploaded to youtube? I could be wrong but I thought I remembered her talking about it off-handedly in one video, and how she was taking notes for it.
Just a heads up-gyp is a slur that refers to “gypsies” (Romani people). It means to shortchange someone, implying that Romani people will try to shortchange you. A lot of people don’t realize it’s a slur so I just wanted to spread awareness
Actually it’s the other way around I’m pretty sure. The first word came first and was made into a slur towards the Roma. The original word itself just means to steal, like you said
@@vampyrekyng_lex A quick Google search seems to disagree, but I’m no historian. Either way it’s still considered offensive so we should probably avoid use of the term.
Gypsy is not a hateful or derogatory word. It’s as tired of a misconception as the mental disorder trope in indie horror games. The word Gypsy is just a descriptor term. Most people that term the word as being hateful are 99% of the time, not Romanian themselves. Talk to actual Romanians and they will tell you it doesn’t bother them.
Glad Gab doesn’t know what “g*p” means, it means her friends and fam raised her right or she was just around good people. My family and I are Roma, “European Gypsy’s (not PC)”, it’s a slur used against the Rom or someone who “screws you over” in a business deal, Jews also face similar $ - related discrimination.
I always spelled it "jip" because I didn't know its origin. Now that you've educated me, I'll not use it anymore (not that I used it much to begin with, but still). Thanks for enlightening me!
more likely its to do with culture/language! I definitely grew up in a culture with anti-roma & anti-traveller prejudices (both get our word for g*psy used against them, because fuck cultural distinctions all nomadic people has to be the same right? /big S), but I never encountered the verb until I saw it online fairly recently just because I don't have English as my first language!
This game is really compelling overall, however I am incredibly disappointed with the official narrative for this case. When I realized Nakamura had schizophrenia (clued in when reading the journal, confirmed with the pill bottle), I was so scared the devs were going to use the tired trope of the "person with schizophrenia goes on a killing rampage." Not only does it add to the stigma (and schizphrenia is one of the most harshly stigmatized and demonized of the mental illnesses), but it's just downright lazy storytelling. Not to mention, being off meds for a couple days wouldn't cause a downfall in mental state that severe - or, at least, it seems unrealistic that it would. The devs dropped the ball with this story and it didn't need to happen this way if only they'd done the bare minimum of research. It would've been so refreshing to have the schizophrenia be a red herring AND it would've offered an opportunity for players to check their biases when the person with schizophrenia ended up being innocent, especially if a player's first instinct was to blame the person with a mental health condition. It is such a shame that the devs lost the opportunity to have a positive social outcome with this case (e.g., checking biases, de-stigmatization, etc.). Mike had much more motive for hiding his drug dealing secret and that motive makes much more sense than whatever BS "motive" they gave to Nakamura.
This has become one of my fav Gab series, along with Nancy, OD, and (when I started) Stardew. It’s got the horror elements we love but still somehow chill to watch…
I understand that it's the typical trope, but I was hoping it wasn't a case of schizophrenic goes "crazy" and shoots up the place. While people who suffer from schizophrenia have deductive reasoning issues and may have the "walking on eggshells" when off medicine, it just perpetuates the negative stigma. I was looking forward to Gab's idea of Mike being a cop who shot up the place because he was about to be sold out. Still a fun chapter though.
Yeah, I'm quite irked how it turned out the be the schizophrenic, both because it's a cliche, but also schizophrenics aren't more likely to be murderers, but actually more likely to be the victim of harm than the general population. Have to say, there's so much pointing to Nakamura as the perpetrator, including: being given the keys to the ammo storage, and also and also his creepy ideation with firearms the last few days.
It sucks that you can solve who was the crazed murderer as soon as the game mentions one of the dudes is schizophrenic. It adds to the terrible stigma of schizophrenia and also from a purely 'mystery game' standpoint is brick-to-the-head obvious. I was really hoping it was a red herring because of how hard they were beating us over the head with it.
Thar part reading the note book about the evidence reminded me of a story. There was a case in Massachusetts where I live that had a lab tech messing around with false positives and playing around with evidence. She actually went to prison and thousands of convictions were overturned because of it... Crazy.
I’m from America. My insulin with insurance cost me around $60.00a month. But at the beginning of the year I have to pay a $800.00 deductible where I have to pay double the regular cost $120.00 a month. Till I reach the $800.00 dollar mark. So the first few months of the year is very tough.
I am saying this as someone who deeply cares for a friend who's schizophrenic, has seen and held him when he was having a psychotic episodes with the voices being overwhelming, and am going to stay at his house and spend the night tomorrow: this type of trope is outright harmful, and makes people immediately treat my friend worse and say things to me about how they're worried about my safety when he's the kindest person I've ever met. He's extremely nonviolent and the only time he ever HAS wanted to end someone, it was himself, sadly. Thankfully, his meds work at least mostly, but even being off them like Nakamura apparently was for like a week or even a few days won't do anything that severe, he's had to be off them for over a week recently because his pharmacy/doctor sucked and wouldn't deal with the prescription properly. It did suck and he did have more thoughts and voices and hallucinations and was extremely anxious and stressed and scared, but he was NOT homicidal and didn't go on a rampage after 2 days ffs. I even listened to a schizophrenia simulation video thing a while back and just HEARING things for a few minutes made me want to literally scream and tell "everyone" to shut up, I can't IMAGINE living with that daily, constantly, every waking second of your life until you die. It's terrifying for them. On a positive note, love the game and Gab's interpretation of this case, it made sense to me much more than the actual ending.
I hate how I suspected they’d blame nakamura immediately because of his schizophrenia. half my family has schizophrenia and they wouldn’t hurt a damn fly
This one really rubs me the wrong way. As a schizophrenic individual i can tell you voices (and psychosis in general, which comes in many different forms and packaged within many other disorders) doesnt make you violent. In fact, it's a known fact that people with psychosis (esp those w schizo-spec disorders) are more likely to be harmed than to harm others. Also, the "dripfeeding dosage" thing: they arent doing it so he wont OD. Most of the time, if you go obn a med thats, say, a controlled substance, you arent having trouble getting it bc they want y9ou to be safe. They give you a ton of trouble over it bc they assume you'll get addicted and the way addicts are demonized and dehumanized is already horrendous. You shouldn't be running out of a medication unless it's take as needed and they gave you a smaller supply that you end up needing. At that point you talk to your doctor to figure out if its safe for you to take it more often. This whole game just shows they know nothing about psychosis or schizophrenia and didnt care to learn. Also, headaches arent a usual symptom of sfchizophrenia that ive heard of. I would assume theyre stress headaches or migraines.
Spoiler: I also found it kind of lame that nakumara was the killer, the trope has been overdone so much, is harmful too and makes it less tragic and serious than if it would have been Mike in my opinion
I ultimately wasn't surprised at all that Nakamura was the shooter, although I think it's a terrible stereotype. There was no reason in any of the information we were given for Mike to start shooting, nothing that really indicated he thought people knew about his drug stuff, and he hadn't met Phil before so Phil wouldn't have had any dirt he could have exposed. It's really bad that because of his schizophrenia, Darren ended up being the villain, but I was pretty sure that was how it was going to go.
It doesn't make sense the way he started shooting, and nobody in room one came running out . Darren was the obvious pick, but the scenario made no sense. The evidence pointed at everyone but Darren.
I am so sad that nobody noticed the references to Painscreek Killings... The Steven Moss missing poster made me so excited and made me realise it was the same devs
Glad to see so many other people in the comments who were disappointed by the answer to this case. Even if Nakamura snapped and killed Mike, that doesn't mean he would kill the suspect and then TEN MINUTES LATER also kill Richard? (Also, what the heck was Richard doing for ten minutes with an active shooter in the other room?)
Spoiler . . . . . . . It doesn't make sense that Darren did it. He HAD his meds right there. Schizophrenia doesn't turn you violent on a dime, it also doesn't make any sense the guy went after someone for some cash. What DID make sense was how Harry didn't want to kill someone again, so despite Darren being the aggressor who had just killed two people - Harry aimed for the leg. He was in the right mind sober wise, but he also *wasn't* of sound mind in that he should have shot Darren, but he was traumatized after the kid he shot. Mike also didn't take any drugs himself, his N. 01 rule was not to test his own stash. But it would make sense if he stole Darren's meds - which he did - and maybe tried one which made him psychotic. But you know what DEFINITELY makes you psychotic?? Blood sugar. If his blood sugar tanked, he would have been extremely disoriented and could have very well gone into a panic. And, of course, the most tragic death here was Carl Tristan, he's about to FINALLY get out of a wrongful imprisonment, and on the day of the groundbreaking moment - he's stuck in a mass shooting for no good reason. Knows the only people standing up for him are now Dead next to him, and his heart gives out. He was still alive when Darren took his own life - he died after everyone and because they were all dead he died a slow and agonizing death when Darren was the one who had the emergency kit in his office, may have even been a defib kit that would have saved Carl. I'd also like to say, there was another person in the office. Sgt. Grady, who escorted Phillip Clemence into his interrogation. He could have 100% been an outside source and killed everyone. But he was also the only one alive nearby, so for whatever reason he didn't go in and help.
8:47 - FYI, the word "gyp" is an extremely rude derogatory term that comes from the slur "g*psy". It means to steal, often through deception or cheating, in a way that is often expected of Romani people by racists. Some people have no idea the word is so disrespectful, and others know and use it intentionally. Either way, when reading something with a word like that, it's best to err on the side of caution. Another similar term is "getting Jewed" or "Jewing", or "getting k*ked", which is the same premise but derogatory to Jews instead of Roma. The creator of the game may not have known, or may have used to word to demonstrate prejudice, trustworthiness, or some other bad characteristic of the person who owns the notebook
@@EzratheRift It doesn't matter if it's popular with older people, it's still a phrase rooted in racism that should be phased out. It's also still a slur many people choose not to say once they know it's origins. Gab outright said she didn't know that word, so I thought it worthwhile to say something so she can make an informed decision. My grandma would still say the N word if she thought she could get away with it. Idc whose relatives still say that word and it's derivatives, it's still not right and I think she should at least have the opportunity to choose how she navigated vocab like this
I don't understand why the glass was blown in to the interrogation room then. The bullet was the standard issue pistol in the wall in room #2, meaning someone shot into the room first starting the problem
I looked again after the end, its a Revolver round imbedded in the wall behind the glass gab picks up, 49:57. the window is shot from 2 different sides. Once when Mike was shot from inside, 2nd when Baker shot from the outside.
@@CorvidKnight666 Ah! I should have been more proactive and skimmed back, but I really thought it was a pistol round for some reason. Oh well, I'm sad the devs went with the "mental illness is bad" trope instead of the "dirty cops are bad" but they were really trying to humanize that aspect of the plot.
@@crawfishpi yea, I did the same too, that's why I rewound it XD and it just has to do with fake out/ red herrings. It's easy to dismiss the easy answer when you had to jump through so many hoops to figure out the dirty cop, only for it to just be a side plot👌
In the US we can test drugs in the field with field tests to prove its positive for X. The gun isnt an issue as its an heirloom and ita just normal. My only issue here in this country is we should be more like Iceland in regardless to gun laws and practices. You can ship guns in the US but they usually cant be put together when shipped or of the state has new laws you cant ship outside the state. Some bullets CAN make that much damage because it depends mostly on the size of the bullet or if it spreads out like shotguns do. Hitting drywall with a 9mm absolutely can crack up the wall. Insulin is only expensive here if you have no insurnace. Without insurance i think the avg price is 350$ for 1 bottle and there are many diabetics that need 2 bottles for 2 types of insulin. With insurance insulin can be covered 80-100%. Standard issue means what is the base weapon given to every cop basically. So if a glock is standard issue then thats what everyone gets and then you can get shotguns and other guns. Commentor is correct in a revolver not dropping shells, you have to swing the holder open and turn it to dump them out or pull them out one by one. Bolt action and semi auto to full auto release the shells after each use.
man i was rly hoping that it wasn't gonna be nakamura. how many times are we gonna demonise ppl with personality/mood disorders??? so disappointing. none of my schizophrenic and bipolar family members are/were violent in _any_ way, shape, or form. like someone else in the comments said, ppl with schizophrenia are much more likely to face violence themselves instead of perpetrating it. i much prefer gab's version of events. having mike be the murderer made much more sense and is so much more compelling than "ahh!!! the schizophrenic guy didn't take his meds!! he's crazy and flies into rages!! because he's schizophrenic he's gonna murder all his colleagues and any witnesses!!" so not only is it dehumanising and hurtful to ppl with mental illnesses, it's just plain _boring_ as a motive. having nakamura catch on that mike was a part of something suspicious during the interrogation and mike killing everyone to keep his secret is way more interesting. like mike could have tried to come up with a plan to _frame_ nakamura as the killer and him as the hero that tried to save everyone, because (like we all initially believed and discarded bc what) it would be obvious. he probably has some inkling that nakamura isn't mentally all that well. but harry shooting him threw a wrench in his plans. maybe there was something that convinced him that he would be outed as the killer, so he shot himself. like the way the bodies were positioned (or where they were in general) and the blood splatters from harry shooting him clearly showing that nakamura was unable to orchestrate all that carnage. COME ON!!! IS THAT NOT A WAY BETTER STORYLINE??? tldr schizophrenic committing violence is hurtful and boring and such an old trope. do better, it's 2024.
If u ignore the mental illness part He was at the end of his rope with Mike. With his apparent anger likely, he would have some sort of physical conflict between them at some point. Now add back the psychological issue and been out of medicine to help with the irrational behavior the games actual report makes complete sense to me over the theory it being Mike as the dirty cop. Love watching these games tho! Excited to see the next case.
took me until watching this video to realize harry's gift to his son was swords and not a gun lol on a more serious note i was super disappointed by the conclusion of this case, the moment i saw the schizophrenia pills i was hoping they weren't gonna go the "mentally ill guy goes nuts" route. but to my disappointment they did. it's sad really because all the other stories they told in this game were great, but this case left a bad taste in my mouth.
Maybe they’ll go back and rewrite this one with your ideas 😂 regardless I never get tired of you playing these games. Super fun to watch and come up with your own theories.
As much as I don't like the Nakamura ending, Mike being the murderer made no sense. Why would he kill Philip if he was there to establish a good relationship with the guy? So that's why I logically excluded Mike and only Darren was left.
I was so confused of why they don’t allow drinking on work hours -but see to have it for lunch or off time😂 Isn’t that considered still on site??? 😂😂I love this mystery game though❤
I love the fact that she reads all the texts & never skips ❤❤❤
Same I watch her videos for the story and lor and then seans for the chaos 😂 love them, both indovually my favourites!
Me too I love that she takes her time ❤
She didnt read All the texts this time
MY MAIN REASON WHY I FOLLOWED AND SUBSCRIBED HER TBQH
Thats why shes the best!
I definitely like Gab’s ending better. It’s a plot twist, subverts your expectations, and doesn’t fall into ‘the mentally ill person went crazy and offed everyone’ trope
Mike being the perp 10/10
34:31 I used to work as a veterinary nurse. I can verify that BB is showing all the symptoms of being a Happy and Cozy Cat. I strongly recommend that you continue the care that you've been giving him.
That face squish is just too precious!!! So handsome!!! So adorable!!!
I dislike the official answer. Nakamura was not out of meds. They were on his desk.
I think your answer fits the scenario better.
I think those were the lesser effective meds, but i might be misreading that. I was thinking that Maybe Mike stole them and was gonna sell them.
@@crawfishpiI agree, considering he said he was using a "cocktail of pills" and he never really said that he ran out of the old pills, just that he believed they weren't as effective and started using the more expensive ones instead.
@@cerisewolfeahNakamura stated that his pills disappeared/got stolen at some point in his journal
Psychotic illnesses are incredibly misunderstood and people with these conditions are more likely to be victims of abuse than perpetrators
I don't know how to feel about another case of portraying a person with schizophrenia as a "crazy violent person who will kill everyone around because VOICES" when in fact (according to National Institutes of Health) "Most patients with schizophrenia will never be violent. For ever schizophrenic patient who commits a homicide, 100 will die by suicide."
Lowkey wished Gab's first instinct was right and it was Mike all along, it made so much sense to me and it was more compelling than "yeah the schizophrenic guy skipped a dose and shot up his workplace"
Same, it's such an overused, ignorant trope
Between Schizophrenia, DID, and Bipolar it's been such an over used trope since the 90s, paints such a negative picture for those experiencing any symptoms. Mostly when it becomes "the person" vs "a part of the person" the mental health doesn't define the person aside from possible processed information, but even then everyone is different and background/financial /social lives affect more than anything else.
These stereotypes have negative affects on those who don't actively engage with such individuals and has a lot of presumptions placed on them. TLDR: don't define a personality by mental health there's more to people than one aspect.
this is what i was thinking too. i was so disappointed to learn it was nakamura after spending this entire video hoping it wasn't him too avoid this stereotype. people with schizophrenia are more likely to be victims of violence, not the other way around. it's getting old and it's demonizing
Yeah I really hate the narrative that "schizophrenic people are dAnGEroUs" when the most dangerous thing is the stigma keeping people from receiving the treatment they need, and insurance companies witholding funds for life-changing treatments like medications
Yeah, one day off that type of medicine isn't going to cause that, let alone a month. I should know, my father has the condition.
31:44 gab solving a mystery, beeb sitting back like he’s enjoying the newest episode on tv, then there’s me “did this guy sign his kids bday card with his name instead of dad”
THANK you! I thought I was the only one who spotted that and was so confused lmao - and his full name too, not just his first name or a nickname or anything
From what I've seen theories for, Mike is still sort of responsible. Remember how Darren lost his pills from his car and yet they were on his desk? Could be possible that Mike took them and then placed them on his desk just before the interrogations just to mess with him. The dude did like his "jokes" and didn't like Darren.
Still, would've been better if dirty cop did it. Also, there's a missing person poster in a cubicle or two referring to the guy from Painscreek. Nice universe this seems to be in.
I think the pig insulin is not necessarily only an insult (though it is still mean and suggestive). Back in the day diabetics used pig's insulin, as pigs' prancreas are the closest to humans. I think back in 1998 they still used it and it was probably cheaper than the insulin we use today. Though I did not fact-check myself, so please take it with a grain of salt, but I know the first insulin was from a pig's pancreas.
Not necessarily cheaper - the reason insulin is so expensive now is because the price has been artificially inflated (mainly in the US) which has caused severe problems worldwide. It's probably much cheaper to manufacture now, but capitalism gotta capitalism I guess.
@@snorpenbass4196 I work in a hospital pharmacy. The amount of insulin that gets thrown out is infuriating
in pharmacy they teach us that it’s for companies to pay off their research retroactively. 10-20 years of research isn’t free so if you can be the first to patent a drug or procedure, you get 10-15 years of a secured brand name to list your own price. unfortunately that gives way for big pharma to take place and they can do the LARGEST number possible but it’s overall just for pharmaceutical companies to earn back the money they spend for their research in clinical trials since if you as a patient sign up for them you can get reimbursed for liability, theres also the drug itself, the supplies, the staff, the place that is handling the trials (electricity, water, other utilities, etc) and much more!
unfortunately, US is expensive but we have a full spectrum of care bc we have the access to the information. Now, for those who are less insured or uninsured, we have free clinics (i just finished a rotation at one in Ohio) and they are amazing for anyone: unemployed, between jobs, uninsured, insured but without a provider, or insured with too high of deductible costs. free clinics do not have the governing body telling us how short of visits. we could spend all day with a patient and care for them to their needs
Me at the beginning of this: "Surely it won't be the schizophrenic guy, that is such a tired trope."
Me at the end: "........ well, f*%k"
the second he mentioned word salad i was like uh oh
You and me both. :(
Thought it's going to be a red herring, but nope. Seriously, this is 2024. It's a modern video game, not a silly TV movie from the 90s.
seriously disappointing, "how do we create a scenario called bloodbath" "ohhh uhhhh schizophrenia!"
Yeah another reminder that people not neurotypical are more likely to be victums of crimes and not criminals themselves. Also he would not have been on the force with that diagnosis and would defiently not be allowed a gun (even in the past).
man I really wish Gabs idea was what actually played out...my partner has schizoaffective disorder, it sucks to see this be another "the mentally ill person did it! mentally ill people are violent & dangerous!" plus besides how shitty that is, Gabs recreation actually made a lot more sense to me, it actually had depth & motive. Mike being the shooter was waaay more interesting & realistic.
As someone whos uncle developed Schizophrenia because of being a cop in the 70s, the ending to this really disapointed me. The second Nakamura was shown to be Schitzophrenic I got really worried but hoped the creators would have done their research. The biggest danger my uncle was to those around him was that he would spend all of his, and their, money on people who needed help. I may have been weirded out by him as a kid but I never felt afraid for my safety. It would have taken just 20 minutes of dedicated research, or even just one phone call to an expert to create a more realistic narrative that didn't rely on cheap jabs at the struggles of mental illness. 😔
My uncle developed schizophrenia while in the military and he sounds just like yours. He spends his days in his woodworking shop making beautiful wood furniture/knick knacks. I couldn't imagine him being violent a day in his life, he's genuinely the kindest person in the world. The "schizophrenic goes off their meds a day or two and goes on a murderous rampage" feels like a punch to the gut to everyone with or who knows someone with schizophrenia. So disappointing
People don't get schizophrenia because of their career
@@vadimuha you are correct, Schizophrenia typically (but not always) is genetic and manifests after a highly traumatic event. While this is something we are still far from understanding there is some strong research linking schizophrenia to PTSD and survivors of serious phsychotic breaks. Neither of us are saying our uncles got schizophrenia because of their specific career. However, significant deeply traumatic events were the catalysts to the development of their symptoms.
While I can understand Nakamura being unmedicated and shooting Mike in a fit of rage, I don’t like how it further stigmatizes mental illness. Also, I don’t understand why it seems like the witness was shot way more than Mike based on the broken glass
I spy an anachronism! 27:40
The 5 dollar bill has the big purple 5 in the corner, which didn't come into circulation in the US until early 2008. The case being investigated is happening in 1998. It's not really a big deal in the grand scheme of things lol it's just something I remember talking to my friends about at school.
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I agree that the storyline we believed happened with Mike being the shooter was a much better outcome than what I felt was adding more stigma to mental illnesses.
Yeah, people suffering from schizophrenia are depicted as on the edge of becoming killers in media, which isn't at all what it's like irl.
the mentally ill guy being the bad guy is such an overused trope too
Yo, maybe put a spoiler warning on top- your comment is the top comment and so it’s seen automatically… 🥺
@@alyssatheexcellent How am I supposed to know it's the top comment? You don't get a notification and I've seen the video so I'm very unlikely to revisit it. I did edit it but it's not showing up so far at least for me. I'm sorry for ruining the experience for you.
@@Gloomcookie96 top comments are just selected randomly from ones that have a lot of likes so its not an official thing its just a term for literally the comment at the top of the section, it can also be different for everyone. also on iOS youtube the tab to open the comments section will cycle through a preview of comments. if youre not fullscreen and happen to look down even when the comment section is closed its pretty easy to accidentally read it, itll show any comments regardless of how many likes its got too, so when its a mystery based vid like this i always have to immediately full screen cause ive been spoiled a few times LOL 😭 its also just kinda safe to put a spoiler warning cause even on desktop the comment section shows immediately and someone might accidentally look down
Im definitely planning on getting this game. And off topic, everytime I fell asleep watching TH-cam, 90% of the time I wake up to Gab playing Nancy Drew. I have yet to watch a whole Nancy Drew video.
I always end up watching Gab's videos 3-4 times because I use them to fall asleep. Then the next day, I try to find where I last remember and continue from there lol
did anyone notice in one of the suspect files, one suspect had a rose tattoo on their hip? is that somehow related to the previous case cause i remember the pimp making the girls get a rose tattoo on their hip
I also think that this Harry Baker cop is the "Harry" that the pimp Phillip was talking to... if it is indeed the same "Phillip" that was booked.
@@WinterOfTheSnowClan wow i didn’t notice that! i love these little details that tie cases together
other people have already said this, but i feel the need to add to it that the trope/stereotype of mentally ill people becoming violent criminals/mass murderers/otherwise dangerous people is demonizing, overused, and stigmatized. not saying at all that this is in any way contributed to by Evelien, but the game itself
If you like this style of gameplay I really recommend Return of the Obra Dinn - investigative mystery horror game in such a cool art style! No spoilers for anyone who wants to try it but it is SO Gab coded I'm surprised I haven't seen it here already!
if i remember correctly i think she might have played it on a stream that never got uploaded to youtube? I could be wrong but I thought I remembered her talking about it off-handedly in one video, and how she was taking notes for it.
Just a heads up-gyp is a slur that refers to “gypsies” (Romani people). It means to shortchange someone, implying that Romani people will try to shortchange you. A lot of people don’t realize it’s a slur so I just wanted to spread awareness
thank you!!
Thank you, I never realized that
Actually it’s the other way around I’m pretty sure. The first word came first and was made into a slur towards the Roma. The original word itself just means to steal, like you said
@@vampyrekyng_lex A quick Google search seems to disagree, but I’m no historian. Either way it’s still considered offensive so we should probably avoid use of the term.
Gypsy is not a hateful or derogatory word. It’s as tired of a misconception as the mental disorder trope in indie horror games. The word Gypsy is just a descriptor term. Most people that term the word as being hateful are 99% of the time, not Romanian themselves. Talk to actual Romanians and they will tell you it doesn’t bother them.
BB was looking so comfortable😸 like a newborn baby staring at the monitor hahahaha
Glad Gab doesn’t know what “g*p” means, it means her friends and fam raised her right or she was just around good people. My family and I are Roma, “European Gypsy’s (not PC)”, it’s a slur used against the Rom or someone who “screws you over” in a business deal, Jews also face similar $ - related discrimination.
I had no idea that’s where that phrase came from!
I always spelled it "jip" because I didn't know its origin. Now that you've educated me, I'll not use it anymore (not that I used it much to begin with, but still). Thanks for enlightening me!
more likely its to do with culture/language! I definitely grew up in a culture with anti-roma & anti-traveller prejudices (both get our word for g*psy used against them, because fuck cultural distinctions all nomadic people has to be the same right? /big S), but I never encountered the verb until I saw it online fairly recently just because I don't have English as my first language!
Well Gypsys were scammers so it makes sense.
I looked at the word and went “oh that’s not…”
This game is really compelling overall, however I am incredibly disappointed with the official narrative for this case. When I realized Nakamura had schizophrenia (clued in when reading the journal, confirmed with the pill bottle), I was so scared the devs were going to use the tired trope of the "person with schizophrenia goes on a killing rampage." Not only does it add to the stigma (and schizphrenia is one of the most harshly stigmatized and demonized of the mental illnesses), but it's just downright lazy storytelling. Not to mention, being off meds for a couple days wouldn't cause a downfall in mental state that severe - or, at least, it seems unrealistic that it would.
The devs dropped the ball with this story and it didn't need to happen this way if only they'd done the bare minimum of research. It would've been so refreshing to have the schizophrenia be a red herring AND it would've offered an opportunity for players to check their biases when the person with schizophrenia ended up being innocent, especially if a player's first instinct was to blame the person with a mental health condition. It is such a shame that the devs lost the opportunity to have a positive social outcome with this case (e.g., checking biases, de-stigmatization, etc.). Mike had much more motive for hiding his drug dealing secret and that motive makes much more sense than whatever BS "motive" they gave to Nakamura.
31:08 The Little Man!
"HE TRIED TO GIVE HIS SON A GUN?"
Me in the southern us, forgetting thats not normal
This has become one of my fav Gab series, along with Nancy, OD, and (when I started) Stardew. It’s got the horror elements we love but still somehow chill to watch…
BB is such a beautiful kitty, I ended up watching the cat cam instead of the game for... a while 😂😅
I understand that it's the typical trope, but I was hoping it wasn't a case of schizophrenic goes "crazy" and shoots up the place. While people who suffer from schizophrenia have deductive reasoning issues and may have the "walking on eggshells" when off medicine, it just perpetuates the negative stigma. I was looking forward to Gab's idea of Mike being a cop who shot up the place because he was about to be sold out. Still a fun chapter though.
Me too. As soon as they revealed Nakamura had schizophrenia, I was like "Oh no, it's him isn't it" and it was.
Yeah, I'm quite irked how it turned out the be the schizophrenic, both because it's a cliche, but also schizophrenics aren't more likely to be murderers, but actually more likely to be the victim of harm than the general population.
Have to say, there's so much pointing to Nakamura as the perpetrator, including: being given the keys to the ammo storage, and also and also his creepy ideation with firearms the last few days.
It sucks that you can solve who was the crazed murderer as soon as the game mentions one of the dudes is schizophrenic. It adds to the terrible stigma of schizophrenia and also from a purely 'mystery game' standpoint is brick-to-the-head obvious. I was really hoping it was a red herring because of how hard they were beating us over the head with it.
Thar part reading the note book about the evidence reminded me of a story. There was a case in Massachusetts where I live that had a lab tech messing around with false positives and playing around with evidence. She actually went to prison and thousands of convictions were overturned because of it... Crazy.
I’m from America. My insulin with insurance cost me around $60.00a month. But at the beginning of the year I have to pay a $800.00 deductible where I have to pay double the regular cost $120.00 a month. Till I reach the $800.00 dollar mark. So the first few months of the year is very tough.
Ah-see-toe-men-oh-fin, fun way to remember the pronunciation of acetaminophen.
I am saying this as someone who deeply cares for a friend who's schizophrenic, has seen and held him when he was having a psychotic episodes with the voices being overwhelming, and am going to stay at his house and spend the night tomorrow: this type of trope is outright harmful, and makes people immediately treat my friend worse and say things to me about how they're worried about my safety when he's the kindest person I've ever met. He's extremely nonviolent and the only time he ever HAS wanted to end someone, it was himself, sadly. Thankfully, his meds work at least mostly, but even being off them like Nakamura apparently was for like a week or even a few days won't do anything that severe, he's had to be off them for over a week recently because his pharmacy/doctor sucked and wouldn't deal with the prescription properly. It did suck and he did have more thoughts and voices and hallucinations and was extremely anxious and stressed and scared, but he was NOT homicidal and didn't go on a rampage after 2 days ffs. I even listened to a schizophrenia simulation video thing a while back and just HEARING things for a few minutes made me want to literally scream and tell "everyone" to shut up, I can't IMAGINE living with that daily, constantly, every waking second of your life until you die. It's terrifying for them.
On a positive note, love the game and Gab's interpretation of this case, it made sense to me much more than the actual ending.
The stigma is so harmful. I was hoping in 2024 we were slowly moving past it...
aw what a fucking let down of an ending
And so the real culprit was the American healthcare system all along.
I hate how I suspected they’d blame nakamura immediately because of his schizophrenia. half my family has schizophrenia and they wouldn’t hurt a damn fly
Hmmm, now I want to know if there's some evidence we missed that indicates Naka is the shooter. Surely there has to be more than his angry notes.
I love this game so much, especially when Gabby plays it. Wish there was more games like this.
This is my fave series ever rn
This one really rubs me the wrong way. As a schizophrenic individual i can tell you voices (and psychosis in general, which comes in many different forms and packaged within many other disorders) doesnt make you violent. In fact, it's a known fact that people with psychosis (esp those w schizo-spec disorders) are more likely to be harmed than to harm others. Also, the "dripfeeding dosage" thing: they arent doing it so he wont OD. Most of the time, if you go obn a med thats, say, a controlled substance, you arent having trouble getting it bc they want y9ou to be safe. They give you a ton of trouble over it bc they assume you'll get addicted and the way addicts are demonized and dehumanized is already horrendous. You shouldn't be running out of a medication unless it's take as needed and they gave you a smaller supply that you end up needing. At that point you talk to your doctor to figure out if its safe for you to take it more often. This whole game just shows they know nothing about psychosis or schizophrenia and didnt care to learn. Also, headaches arent a usual symptom of sfchizophrenia that ive heard of. I would assume theyre stress headaches or migraines.
We need more Cat Cam when you game. LOVE IT❤ 🐈
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I also found it kind of lame that nakumara was the killer, the trope has been overdone so much, is harmful too and makes it less tragic and serious than if it would have been Mike in my opinion
Ah man, TH-cam has this as top comment for me so TH-cam spoiled it lol
@@JaggedJimmyJ I'm sorry :/
@@paulikoller3942not your fault! It's that damn TH-cam algorithm 😅
I ultimately wasn't surprised at all that Nakamura was the shooter, although I think it's a terrible stereotype. There was no reason in any of the information we were given for Mike to start shooting, nothing that really indicated he thought people knew about his drug stuff, and he hadn't met Phil before so Phil wouldn't have had any dirt he could have exposed. It's really bad that because of his schizophrenia, Darren ended up being the villain, but I was pretty sure that was how it was going to go.
I love this type of games, so it makes me very sad that they went the stigmatizing the mental illness route ngl. I deem our story to be canon instead.
11:47 the phrase is blow a gasket but he devs wrote blow a casket
Tha fluffy kitty is long haired like his papa 0v0 **happy goblin stance**
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So excited for another part of this!! I love the chill investigation vibes
It doesn't make sense the way he started shooting, and nobody in room one came running out . Darren was the obvious pick, but the scenario made no sense. The evidence pointed at everyone but Darren.
I am so sad that nobody noticed the references to Painscreek Killings... The Steven Moss missing poster made me so excited and made me realise it was the same devs
31:09 Brief Séan and Beebs break for those who need it 🥰
Just what I was looking for to take a break from way too much manga lately. Thank you!
Glad to see so many other people in the comments who were disappointed by the answer to this case. Even if Nakamura snapped and killed Mike, that doesn't mean he would kill the suspect and then TEN MINUTES LATER also kill Richard? (Also, what the heck was Richard doing for ten minutes with an active shooter in the other room?)
Yesss love a good chill mystery game
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It doesn't make sense that Darren did it. He HAD his meds right there. Schizophrenia doesn't turn you violent on a dime, it also doesn't make any sense the guy went after someone for some cash. What DID make sense was how Harry didn't want to kill someone again, so despite Darren being the aggressor who had just killed two people - Harry aimed for the leg. He was in the right mind sober wise, but he also *wasn't* of sound mind in that he should have shot Darren, but he was traumatized after the kid he shot.
Mike also didn't take any drugs himself, his N. 01 rule was not to test his own stash. But it would make sense if he stole Darren's meds - which he did - and maybe tried one which made him psychotic. But you know what DEFINITELY makes you psychotic?? Blood sugar. If his blood sugar tanked, he would have been extremely disoriented and could have very well gone into a panic.
And, of course, the most tragic death here was Carl Tristan, he's about to FINALLY get out of a wrongful imprisonment, and on the day of the groundbreaking moment - he's stuck in a mass shooting for no good reason. Knows the only people standing up for him are now Dead next to him, and his heart gives out. He was still alive when Darren took his own life - he died after everyone and because they were all dead he died a slow and agonizing death when Darren was the one who had the emergency kit in his office, may have even been a defib kit that would have saved Carl.
I'd also like to say, there was another person in the office. Sgt. Grady, who escorted Phillip Clemence into his interrogation. He could have 100% been an outside source and killed everyone. But he was also the only one alive nearby, so for whatever reason he didn't go in and help.
It'll be a very small dinner because even though everyone is invited, September 29th was a Tuesday that year. Less people go to events on weekdays.
I was so excited when I saw this posted. I love this series so much! thanks for playing it, Gab.
8:47 - FYI, the word "gyp" is an extremely rude derogatory term that comes from the slur "g*psy". It means to steal, often through deception or cheating, in a way that is often expected of Romani people by racists. Some people have no idea the word is so disrespectful, and others know and use it intentionally. Either way, when reading something with a word like that, it's best to err on the side of caution. Another similar term is "getting Jewed" or "Jewing", or "getting k*ked", which is the same premise but derogatory to Jews instead of Roma.
The creator of the game may not have known, or may have used to word to demonstrate prejudice, trustworthiness, or some other bad characteristic of the person who owns the notebook
I think it was used cause it also used to be a common saying, one that is still very common in rural parts of NA, and with older people today.
@@EzratheRift It doesn't matter if it's popular with older people, it's still a phrase rooted in racism that should be phased out. It's also still a slur many people choose not to say once they know it's origins. Gab outright said she didn't know that word, so I thought it worthwhile to say something so she can make an informed decision. My grandma would still say the N word if she thought she could get away with it. Idc whose relatives still say that word and it's derivatives, it's still not right and I think she should at least have the opportunity to choose how she navigated vocab like this
Can we stop demonizing folx with Schizophrenia? This ending really doesn't make that much sense.
Literally it's just "He was mentally ill so he killed everyone" - ugh!
You have no idea how much your videos help me do my homework
Thank you for inspiring me to start a channel of my own Gab x 150 subs, now just a couple more to go. Always here to support you ❤
JUST GOT BACK FROM SCHOOL, THIS IS GREAT
I don't understand why the glass was blown in to the interrogation room then. The bullet was the standard issue pistol in the wall in room #2, meaning someone shot into the room first starting the problem
I looked again after the end, its a Revolver round imbedded in the wall behind the glass gab picks up, 49:57. the window is shot from 2 different sides. Once when Mike was shot from inside, 2nd when Baker shot from the outside.
@@CorvidKnight666 Ah! I should have been more proactive and skimmed back, but I really thought it was a pistol round for some reason. Oh well, I'm sad the devs went with the "mental illness is bad" trope instead of the "dirty cops are bad" but they were really trying to humanize that aspect of the plot.
@@crawfishpi yea, I did the same too, that's why I rewound it XD and it just has to do with fake out/ red herrings. It's easy to dismiss the easy answer when you had to jump through so many hoops to figure out the dirty cop, only for it to just be a side plot👌
I'm so excited for the last chapter of this game. This is really one of my absolute favorite series on youtube
Yes! Have been waiting for another scene investigators!!
Clicked as soon as I saw it was another scene investigator video! So excited
I've been waiting for a new episode of this!!!
Yes another part! Really like your approach to games Gab, keep it up!
Your videos are comforting and fun
I appreciate it so much, being as I have a hard time seeing
i love this series!! got so excited when i saw a new episode 🎉
As soon as they introduced schizophrenia I went “oh no they’re gonna make it him”
Yay! I've been waiting for this episode! So exited :)
In the US we can test drugs in the field with field tests to prove its positive for X.
The gun isnt an issue as its an heirloom and ita just normal. My only issue here in this country is we should be more like Iceland in regardless to gun laws and practices. You can ship guns in the US but they usually cant be put together when shipped or of the state has new laws you cant ship outside the state.
Some bullets CAN make that much damage because it depends mostly on the size of the bullet or if it spreads out like shotguns do. Hitting drywall with a 9mm absolutely can crack up the wall.
Insulin is only expensive here if you have no insurnace. Without insurance i think the avg price is 350$ for 1 bottle and there are many diabetics that need 2 bottles for 2 types of insulin. With insurance insulin can be covered 80-100%.
Standard issue means what is the base weapon given to every cop basically. So if a glock is standard issue then thats what everyone gets and then you can get shotguns and other guns. Commentor is correct in a revolver not dropping shells, you have to swing the holder open and turn it to dump them out or pull them out one by one. Bolt action and semi auto to full auto release the shells after each use.
I love watching you play all these types of games Gabi & it's to see that the next is going to be last.
31:07 BB and Sean appear!
When she was reading the question “who was the dirty cop” i immediately responded in my head with “all of them” 😭
yayyy i was waiting for another part
man i was rly hoping that it wasn't gonna be nakamura. how many times are we gonna demonise ppl with personality/mood disorders??? so disappointing. none of my schizophrenic and bipolar family members are/were violent in _any_ way, shape, or form. like someone else in the comments said, ppl with schizophrenia are much more likely to face violence themselves instead of perpetrating it.
i much prefer gab's version of events. having mike be the murderer made much more sense and is so much more compelling than "ahh!!! the schizophrenic guy didn't take his meds!! he's crazy and flies into rages!! because he's schizophrenic he's gonna murder all his colleagues and any witnesses!!" so not only is it dehumanising and hurtful to ppl with mental illnesses, it's just plain _boring_ as a motive.
having nakamura catch on that mike was a part of something suspicious during the interrogation and mike killing everyone to keep his secret is way more interesting. like mike could have tried to come up with a plan to _frame_ nakamura as the killer and him as the hero that tried to save everyone, because (like we all initially believed and discarded bc what) it would be obvious. he probably has some inkling that nakamura isn't mentally all that well.
but harry shooting him threw a wrench in his plans. maybe there was something that convinced him that he would be outed as the killer, so he shot himself. like the way the bodies were positioned (or where they were in general) and the blood splatters from harry shooting him clearly showing that nakamura was unable to orchestrate all that carnage. COME ON!!! IS THAT NOT A WAY BETTER STORYLINE???
tldr schizophrenic committing violence is hurtful and boring and such an old trope. do better, it's 2024.
YESSS I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR FOREVER !!
Gabby, id like to let you know, i listen to your videos when im not watching, and your voice is very asmr-esque. I enjoy it :))
Ooooo I've been waiting for this one!!!
Wake up babe! new Gab Smolders Content is here!
Evelyn, I need you to play lil guardsman. I've been holding off on watching anyone else play it, cause it's such a you game
I second this! That game would definitely feel "at home" with Gab.
And most importantly: Lost in Play
@@hashtagmate I devoured that game in an afternoon. So good
HELL YEAH I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!!
Gyp is the expression to screw me over. My father used to use that term alot. Definitely old school language.
To keep the mice out, we put our sugar behind screwed cover
I really want one of these to end in, "He got locked in the shitter."
i’ve been waiting so long for this!!!! so excited
If u ignore the mental illness part He was at the end of his rope with Mike. With his apparent anger likely, he would have some sort of physical conflict between them at some point. Now add back the psychological issue and been out of medicine to help with the irrational behavior the games actual report makes complete sense to me over the theory it being Mike as the dirty cop. Love watching these games tho! Excited to see the next case.
8:56 I think he might have been actually trying to help considering the prices of human insulin
took me until watching this video to realize harry's gift to his son was swords and not a gun lol
on a more serious note i was super disappointed by the conclusion of this case, the moment i saw the schizophrenia pills i was hoping they weren't gonna go the "mentally ill guy goes nuts" route. but to my disappointment they did. it's sad really because all the other stories they told in this game were great, but this case left a bad taste in my mouth.
Is it bad I saw the title and my first thought was just "Mmm God a bath sounds so good
This reminds me of the game: Unheard!! It's actually super cool and the same kind of game!
Maybe they’ll go back and rewrite this one with your ideas 😂 regardless I never get tired of you playing these games. Super fun to watch and come up with your own theories.
As much as I don't like the Nakamura ending, Mike being the murderer made no sense. Why would he kill Philip if he was there to establish a good relationship with the guy? So that's why I logically excluded Mike and only Darren was left.
Yo what a game at late night ( in my region)😂😂
Beeb cam is back!!
Hey, will you be uploading anymore of Pacific Drive? Was really enjoying your game play. Love your vids!
I was so confused of why they don’t allow drinking on work hours -but see to have it for lunch or off time😂 Isn’t that considered still on site??? 😂😂I love this mystery game though❤