Our Kia EV6 Experience After Owning Hyundai IONIQ 5 & Genesis GV60!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- With my Tesla Model X being out in Colorado with Kyle, I decided to rent a Kia EV6 from Hertz to check it out!
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Chapter Times:
0:00 - Intro
02:54 - Setting Up The Car / Menus
08:22 - Overview of Kia EV6
21:54 - Pricing And Summary Of All The Different Trims
26:52 - Driving Impressions
53:28 - Charging Up
54:54 - Negatives - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Hard to understand why Hertz hasn’t negotiated with Marriott to install level 2 chargers at the location. Marriott has recently signed a deal with EV connect to install level 2 chargers at their US properties so I wonder if that complicates the situation.
I really enjoy your videos because I get to see how you fit in them and we are about the same height, so it lets approximate my comfort. That is of course in addition to all the other great content provided in them.
Interior sounds very quiet. One of my fav features of the EV9
Good first impression overview. But as an EV6 owner myself (GT-Line), I'll offer some notes:
With HDA2, the car will actually perform the lane change. You initiate either by using the first signal position (auto-return), in which case the car will leave the signal on until it's completed the lane change, or the second signal position (latched on), in which case the car will just beep at you after it's done so you can manually turn the signal off. In my experience, the lane change is fairly slow compared to how I'd execute it, and the car often gets confused on bends (or of course if the lane stripes become obscured or disappear or whatever).
Having to push the door handles is a little odd, but of course not much different from the Model 3/Y design. In the higher trim packages, the door handles automatically pop out when the car is unlocked, so all you have to do is grab them and open the door like a normal handle.
You are right, the wheelbase is longer on Ioniq 5, but EV 6 overall length is slightly more, so it will look a tad larger because of that.
As you found, the synthetic motor sound is optional and can be turned off. There are three different variants of sounds, and I found none of them compelling. I keep that turned off too. :)
Many others have also commented on the potential problem with roof clearance, but I'm 6'4" and even with sunroof, I fit just fine. Different people have different proportions, so I guess a tall person where their extra height is more in their torso than in their legs might have trouble. But I'd guess most people would fit fine. The seat can be lowered quite a lot, more than I need it to.
GT-Line does unlock when you approach, but doesn't remove the need for the power button. I agree, it's a bit weird that it still has the power button, but I think maybe they keep it so that the driver has more fine-grained control over which systems in the car are powered on at any given time (e.g. in "accessory" mode, draining less power from the 12V battery).
I was amused by your comment about the phone charger, since another YTuber who compared his Ioniq 5 with the EV6 noted that his phone does _not_ get nearly as hot in the EV6 as it does in the I5. I can neither confirm nor refute, because my phone doesn't have wireless charging.
Oh, and...
I don't know what the dealers are doing now, but we bought our car a few months ago, and at the time the dealer was running a $5K discount sale. Contrast that to the $5K markup our local dealers were adding to the cars just a year ago, and that represented a huge shift in the price, and was a big reason we decided on the EV6 (but it helped that we liked it better than the VW iD4, the Mach-E, and even the Ioniq 5...the I5 has a roomier cabin, but I found I actually liked the cozy, wrap-around feel of the EV6...more sporty than mini-van).
@@harvey66616I've always been fond of the I5 limited and was set to get one soon but the more I look at the EV6 the more I like it more. I too like the bigger interior of the I5 but the EV6 interior looks way better especially the screens. The exterior of the EV6 is looking better each time too. Back then I wasn't a fan of the back at all but it's looking ok to me now. I'm looking at either getting the GT-Line or GT. Just wished the had powered front vent seats. I wouldn't mind the added weight or cost.
@@volcalstone yup, love the ventilated seats in the gt-line. Honestly, not sure why anyone would pay the extra money for the GT as long as it's missing comfort/convenience features the lower end models have. AWD GT-Line in Sport mode already has a ridiculous amount of power.
I think I still prefer (slightly) the look of the I5 ... I'm a sucker for the "pixels" everywhere, but I like the EV6 too.
@@harvey66616 honestly I would be happy with the GT-line. I do like all the racing tech in the GT tho. It's just a shame that they had to downgrade the seats tho. I like having adaptive dampers in my cars. The rear LSD will be fun on those curvy back roads too. It does have less range but I don't travel much now so I don't mind and plus there are a lot more 350kWh chargers around now. I don't mind waiting 10-15 mins to charge.
I do still like the I5 but I just wish it had a little more. It does sit higher tho and the steering isn't as sporty as the EV6. Yeah I'm a pixel fan myself as well. I might just wait for the refresh I5 for 2025 tho. I believe the interior will look better as I'm fine with the outside already. It's just hard waiting that's the thing hehe.
I have the same car with tech package and I'm so glad I did... I love my ev6 and if I were to upgrade to another car it would be for the new remodeled ev6 that will be unveiled next month...
Curious why hertz simply doesn't charge the cars on a regular 110 outlet overnight while they are standing by to get rented. Sure, it's slow as molasses that way but if they are just sitting there for hours then it's better than nothing.
On a side note , I love the active sound design noise, I do want to feel like I'm driving a space ship. My only gripe is that I wish it had more selections.
Had my Ev6 level 3 spec with the bells and whistles a year now and love it. Looks much better than a Tesla modal y. Don’t get me wrong the tesla is a great car but I think the Kia just looks a bit more classy when parked next to each other.
Good choice!
Obviously this is a lower trim line vehicle without the tech. package because you don’t have the 360 degree camera view which is a valuable option. Great cars and the dual motor has more than enough acceleration, won’t make your eyes bleed but they might begin to water. Solid build and very up to date styling.
If it was the AWD model, it would have the heated steering wheel button right between the heated/cooled seat buttons. The artificial sound can also be turned off in the menus.
I thought it was interesting when you where pricing the EV6 I looked at a cost of the Tesla model Y the comparison is very interesting
Is it worth it to upgrade to HDA2 from a KIA with HDA1? Will HDA2 be even more confident at keeping the car centered in its lane? Thanks!
There's a ChargePoint DCFC at the Jaguar / Land Rover dealer in Darien. Right across from Shack Shack!
Looks like you’re driving the base model. I own the 2024 Kia EV6 GT AWD line package 2. In my EV6 there’s a different design for the steering wheel where the bottom is more flat and the leather stitching and interior design is better. The sound is also better in the higher spec model. I also have a heated steering wheel where on the console it has the touch button option or I can add it as one of my favourites or use the voice system. My model also comes with full powered seats and heating and air conditioning seats in the front, heated ones in the rear. There’s just more added to my model as it’s fully loaded but with that there’s more weight so it reduces my range to 463 KM which I can extend using regenerative braking and turning off the AC or Heat when not needed.
yeah I doubt a rental company will buy a higher trim especially for EV's.
He had the Wind 2WD trim not the base Light trim which they took away and brought it back for 2024. Heated steering wheel would've been standard on any AWD models.
Why would you get a bolt? I have a Kia ev6 and it’s amazing
Definitely “squirrel”, Kathy. You are absolutely correct!
Guilty
Enfield Ct. has magic Docs
The car rental companies should do a better job providing customers information on charging. Unfortunately some customers rent an EV without knowing anything about charging. They google charging stations on their phones and are shocked to find they can’t charge there because it doesn’t have a compatible connector. They don’t know that their rented EV has a navigation system that will find compatible chargers.
Dave, there are stories emerging that Ioniq 5 owners in Canada are getting battered with $60k quotes for an unexpected battery replacement. I initially chalked this up to internet FUD, but the story has legs. You and any potential eGMP owners might want to look into this. Makes me relieved that I dumped my I5 for a MY.
Try and get hold of a GT, it will blow your mind as to how much performance you get for the money. I know Kyle loved it.
Kyle said the ride was rough but I thought it was fine on my test drive. I'm actually thinking about getting it now.
Great performance, but bad bad range.
@@justinadejobi5043 range is relative. It's different for everyone and everywhere. Here in CA there are lots of chargers vs MT where honestly gas is better. I was told the GT could get around 240-260 miles on the regular.
I am wondering if you can check out if the charging issues at a Tesla MagicDock has been resolved yet, and what the charge rate is with preconditioning at a lower state of charge. I would think it should do at least 100KW if not maybe 150KW.
Currently the 800V EVs are limited to 97 kW at Tesla’s DC fast chargers equipped with Magic Dock adapters. At least that was the case a couple of weeks ago.
Did it! This is the exact topic of my next video
Hi Dave ,,Tesla owner here. Great detail review however will you be doing a review on the brand new KIA Ev9 that is starting to hit dealerships? I am looking at my next car/suv and although Tesla X is on my list,,,it is not a definite choice. I’m getting a little tired of the over the top minimalist approach and the lack of luxury that Tesla does not have and have decided to expanding my choices. Would be great to see a review from someone like yourself that owns Tesla and understands the nuances between them and other manufacturers. Thanks
Have you checked the Kyle's Out of Spec Reviews for an EV9? I think he picked one up recently.
Good review. At a 61k price point and no tax credit not a best buy. The tech package like most non Tesla EVs leaves too much out to be desired. Heated/chilled seats a bonus. Lack of NACS for now sucks
You can get em used for 28k at a low mileage
great car. terrible software. nacs wont be a great experience, but at least youll finally be able to charge!
Agree with you 100% you should get a car fully charged
Agree with you fully; you should get a car 100% charged
Would love to see some commentary from you around the cost of Hyundai batteries, its been on motormouth youtube recently that 2 separate Hyundai dealers in Canada wanted CA$60k for a battery replacement for a 1 year old ioniq5 after a minor incident. They didn't even check if the battery needed replacing and the whole situation is confusing. Why are Hyundai batteries more expensive than the car itself and why do they require full replacement after a minor incident?
Ditto. Even Tesla’s battery replacement costs are too expensive at (I think) nearly $20k.
I vote against reviewing the Chevy that is no longer being produced.
I think the charging station is at JLR Darien Station 01, 1335 Post Road, Darien, CT 06820, but they are only 6.5 kW. Maybe ask for the address at Hertz when you return.
I loved Kath's GV60 same as your Lucid, will be good to see it get access to the Tesla Charging network in future then she can get her crystal back that was a luxury car. I like the flat bottom steering wheel being tall makes it easier to get into the drivers seat. Wow Dave...Chequebook(Canadian spelling) reference...the millenials won't have any idea what you're talking about. I know being a Gen X'er but anyone after us won't know what that means. hehe. The sound generator should be turned off once you go above about 20mph I believe, living in a metric country it's 20km/h but not sure what Kia have it set for in the US.
Wow, it’s an epic fail for them to give you an EV that’s only half charged. If they have no way to charge them at that location, then they shouldn’t be renting them out there. 🙄
On off button, it is easy to leave the car on at chargers or at a short stop to keep the cabin conformable. Unlike VW which shuts off totally and if you want to leave it on you have to but a weight on the drivers seat is idiotic. Kia could do a dog mode and use the seat sensor and brake arrangement to turn on the car.
Does anyone have suggestions for grab handles in the MY? My grandma has a hard time without them getting into the rear seat.
Same with my elderly dad. That's his main gripe about my 2023 Tesla Model Y.
I believe its your height... Dave my GT line ev6 doesnt bother me😊
Buy a GT Line AWD good as new used for cheaper than LR RWD Wind new. These are worth 12 to 15k less than MSRP once driven off the new car lot, just like my Ioniq 5.
Has KIA fixed the issue with the 12 volt battery dieing ?
Kind of, sort of I'd say. Apparently they ship from Korea with 12v batteries that are absolute crap, they can't handle cold weather at all. So where I live (up north in Europe) a lot of owners has gotten these replaced on warranty (in some cases after some pushback from Kia). They also released an update that wakes the car up more frequently for maintenance charging of the 12v battery that seems to help a lot. After I got the battery replaced, and the update applied I have not had any issues since then.
Dave - have you seen these videos about Canadian Hyundai owners vehicles being totaled because battery replacement costs of $60k (Canadian) for on their newish EVs? This was on the MotorMouth YT channel. The whole battery replacement repair thing needs to be resolved if BEVs hope to have a place in the future of personal transportation.
I’ve saw those vids too. Glad they are bringing attention to that insanity
Those stories strike me more as a problem with insurance companies just not caring enough yet about getting into repair details when they can just write off the handful of affected EVs for now.
Google "Johnny Bacigalupo Rob Hussey" and read about their experience driving their Tesla Model Y in a heavy rain. Water got into the battery pack, the car failed, and Tesla wanted to bill them £17,374, or about $21,000 for battery pack replacement. Their car was still under warranty, so, my question is: Was the battery pack defective and not sealed adequately to prevent water intrusion or was a significant portion of the car submerged? Amazingly, there have been no updates in the media since this story first appeared in Oct of this year.
The seats are not leather at any trim level. The steering wheel is wrapped with leather though.
Get the EV6. You can't compare EV6 with Bolt. Day and night difference in quality and performance!
Storage is smaller than an ID4 or Model Y
You think you hate it now,but wait until you drive it.
Surprised you didn’t just buy the EV6. It's been a while since your last purchase.
I agree! New purchase happening as we speak. Reveal soon. Not a replacement but an add
Sport mode very fast
GV60 is about 7" shorter than the EV6.
Dave would you do a video on a 2014 Tesla with autopilot 1
Mercedes level 3 or 4 autonomous drive
All safety features are turned on when the car is delivered. Some fool has gone through and turned them off. You did future drivers a favor by putting them back as they should be.
Hertz employees should be resetting or turning on safety features before renting it to someone else
My neighbor with a brand new truck with all options. 1 year later he backed into a car at a parking lot and damaged both cars pretty bad. I said..wait how if you have parking sensors and a back up camera ?! He goes..o I turned off all the sounds , I found it annoying….
Gently used EV6s are going for cheap on the used car market
I'm guessing this will end up being a review of Hertz and their substandard service as much as an EV6 review.
Look at he Car Care Nut videos on the Ionic. He makes a case on how vastly inferior the tech on the Hyundai/ Kia products are to the Tesla. He's a mechanic and he's quite convincing.
Sold my EV6 after a year when they started having failure to charge issues on level 2 but offered only a bandaid fix. Bought a Model Y. So much better than the Kia!
I find the side visibility much better in the Y for things like lane changes and merging.
Agreed. Not sure why would anyone choose kia over tesla, tesla wins in every way, not to mention great charging infrastructure. Wise choice.
@@tonyn3227 As someone who owns both a Model S and an EV6, I can tell you there are a number of reasons I would choose the latter over the former, including cost/benefit ratio, quality of service (we have had only the worst experiences with our local Tesla service center), and the fact that Tesla's insistence on all these non-standard UI choices drives me up the wall (including the stupid location for the turn signal, and the lack of physical buttons for...well, just about everything).
Model 3 makes you look over at the center panel to see your current speed, EV6 puts your current speed (and several other critical pieces of info) right in front of you, and on the HUD on the higher-level trim (I love the HUD in my EV6).
It's ridiculous to make a statement that there's no reason for anyone to buy anything other than a Tesla. Tesla cars do have certain strong points, but they have far from _all_ the strong points. People buy the car that meets the priorities they have, and while sometimes that'll mean a Tesla, in lots of other cases it means very much _not_ a Tesla.
@@tonyn3227 This may be because of Kia's "technology." Tesla, of course, has more market share. But just as Americans ride Japanese cars more than American cars, those who prefer Korean cars in electric cars prefer their technology above all else. You know, Japanese cars come first in quietness, and Korean cars in technology..
My prior car was also a Kia EV6 that had a severe level 2 charging issue in which it stopped being able to charge. After it took over three weeks to fix I ended up selling it back to Kia and getting a MY instead.
Had it not had the level 2 charging issue though I'd likely still have it now.
@@johnlarson7573 legacy mfgs. Cannot catch to Tesla. Most likely they never will. They will always fall short in some areas
This car is way overpriced for the descent performance one, the ones under $47k are jut dogs
Enough about missing the crystal ball, Kathy! Get over it. Lol
I gave up on this video after about 20 minutes. If I wanted to look at the Kia website, I could do that myself I watch this channel to get people your opinion of things not to watch you surf the Internet.
Chapters in the description for this exact purpose of skipping what you don’t want to watch Steve. To make it even easier, maybe you should just not waste your time at all with my content going forward
@@outofspecdave1554 Agreed. I feel like it was a waste of my time reading his comment and needing to respond to it. I enjoy your channel Dave.
@@outofspecdave1554 I forgot this comment. Dude this is rude I have removed you. Kyle is better anyway. The apple fell far from this tree.
LOL is this dude really talking CRAP about a CAR HE RENTED not even OWNED ?