I'm french and i don't get why US Americans always need to say they are black or white in every phrase. There is nothing to be proud or ashamed to be black or white or anything you didn't choose.
You have to understand that the USA was founded on racism, therefore race is very, very important. You should read a book titled 'The Counter-revolution of 1776' by Dr Gerald Horne.
There's should have been 2 black french people there. One who's french from the french west indies and one's who's french because their parents immigrated to France. Generally speaking our views on racism and other things that you struggle to understand about us are different from what other french people might think. It's unfortunate.
I realized a long time ago (before my travels) that racism exists everywhere and that the degree of it varies based on the culture/Nationality of the individual who is Black. I honestly was waiting to hear how living in France is "worse" then living in the US but every example given I've either experienced it personally in the US or someone I know... especially growing up in South Florida back in the day with the influx of Haitians and as we've recently seen how Haitians were disgustingly treated in Texas. I think the pros here out way the cons because my God $240 for a Master's and a doctor coming to your home at 4am will NEVER EVER I mean EVER happen in the US! 😆 And, the ingredients in food is definitely a plus. Great video! 😊
I’m looking forward to being treated better. There’s no where for black Americans to go, not even Africa. I’m glad we have at least a few places where we are treated great due to our identity
As an american black woman, i just came back from visiting london and Paris. I will say that Paris was very beautiful even the local parisians were very welcoming. The architecture of the buildings are amazing to view.
I agree on the fact that having the perspective from a black french person would have elevated the conversation and the context especially a bit more. Being a black french female having who lived in he US for quite some time I could tell a lot of your questioning on the origin question for instanc come from an american perspective. Would love to see more of this with a more diverse panel , that was great content though :)
I agree with you. I plan to do another panel with Black folk raised in the French Caribbean and Black folk raised in Paris. If you'd like to be apart of it, please email me at raeagwe@gmail.com
Spectacular! This was like watching the group scene in Love Jones. I loved everything about this group discussion. Not one dull moment. From the animated, energetic, and fun host who did a great job moderating the conversation to the educated, accomplished circle of friends. It was a beautiful exchange. And thank you for bringing in the Frenchman at the end because after all, you're in France. It was cool hearing him speak and you all understand his French. More please!
🔥it is really interesting to see how different poeple live the same thing. Its really nice to listen to all of you guys. 1h video and i didnt feel it. Nice job rae. Cant wait for your next video
Great discussion. Thank you for hosting and thanks to all the participants and commenters. I've been to Paris a couple of times and have become obsessed. Among the many things I love about Paris, I love that there is a huge Black population. It's like NY but with better architecture.
I lived in Germany for 4 years. And had visited France a number of times. But racism in Europe is different from America. America has a violent history towards black Americans, that lingers to the present! In America, you “could be” physically harmed because you are black. In Europe, in general, the worst that happens is micro-aggressions or awkward weird curiosities!? I can handle that all night & day! I feel safer in Europe. Period. Depending on where I go in America, I need to guarded, aware of my blackness as whites see it.
While I'm a mixed African American, I was treated 85 times better in France in General. It had nothing to do with me being American as most Americans tell the big lie stating that the French are rude. Not a rude sole when I went. My grandmother went too. She's darker skin. Still same treatment. I also had a few African colleagues who lived in France. They too, agree with me. To further clarify the truth of the matter, we need to differentiate the difference between De Jure (government imposed) and De Facto racism. France doesn't have and never had "de jure" racism. They never had disenfranchisement (i.e. literacy tests at polls). They never had laws like "Jim Crow". In other words, France never directly infringed/oppressed the civil and human rights of their civilians in the form of legislation; however, De Facto discrimination exists more globally, including in France. Unlike the US, however, their De Facto discrimination is not and was never influenced by any past events of De Jure discrimination. It more has to do with individual personality. In the US, most acts of racism came about as slavery was being dissolved an abolished. This is because the slaves were no longer in their government defined place and the fact that it was ultra race based. Also, French colonialism is very irrelevant in this context as I'm primarily discussing mainland France. Victims of colonialism were never allowed to be trafficked into the mainland. Also, France more so owned up to their wrongs and granted most of their colonies their independence. Lastly, victims of French colonialism were not French citizens. In the US, the situation is almost opposite. We have to understand that American racism was not legalized, but mandated. Legal just means, no laws against the act. Mandate means that the act in question is enforced by an individual against his/her will be a person/authority regardless of the legal state of the act. Secondly, laws like Jim Crow were not targeting slaves as slavery had already been abolished. Unlike the French, the US never gave it's freed slaves any self-governing independence. Instead they made them citizens and their descendants citizenship at birth. This was not actually a good idea. This is because Lincoln didn't actually free the slaves. If it was him, there wouldn't have been an underground railroad. In other words, the slaves freed themselves, bankrupting their masters. So, instead of freeing them, they made them citizens, using their newly granted freedom against them (i.e Vagrancy laws). This is how mass imprisonment began. Don't forget the 13th Amendement doesn't protect prisoners from Slavery in the US. It was also done to make leaving the country difficult. All Blacks in Mainland France self migrated there; so, if they didn't like it, all they had to do is head for the exit. Racist laws in the US and South Africa were unique among other democratized nation with racist laws as they infringed essentials to life, such as freedom of movement, voting,, public accommodation, freedom of assembly (interracial marriages), privacy rights (Loving v. VA), and freedom from bodily harm. France also lacks racist organizations like the KKK. It's also good that France doesn't collect racial stats. This is how blacks get stopped for driving while black. All they need to do is run the tag number. There was never a time in Mainland France where the government imposed racism akin to the US against their own citizens. Fun fact. During the worst days of Jim Crow. African Americans who were more fortunate enough to leave to country, fled to France to escape racism. I would recommend reading about James Baldwin.
Indeed colonisation is irrelevant here, my take is they have a very Anglo view of things trying to mix their history, but the people in the colonies did get the French citizenship eventually. But the independence movements started not long after. To this day the descendants of those French people can get retroactive French citizenship because of that and people who were born during colonisation were born as French citizens and after the independence could ask to get their French citizenship back. Stats based on skin colour are allowed in France but not everybody are allowed to take them to avoid manipulation and instrumentalisation like we see in the US. Only the gov institutions and researchers like sociologists who ask for a special authorisation for a specific work.
Awww! I loved this video. I'm only 18 years old, and I'm already thinking of moving out of the states in the future for numerous reasons, and France seems to check (almost) all the boxes. This was super informative, and fun to watch. You all are gorgeous too!
Amazing conversation! This is expat goals! It's so interesting to hear perspectives on race in different places other than the US. I've heard the same thing from a friend that black people in France are not as united like in the US, but their communities are based more on country of origin or religion. Thank you!
Thank you for such a relatable and deep insight from all of you. Absolutely amazing.....thank you for sharing your incredible stories and it shows that we black people suffer a lot...we go through a lot...more than any other race...it is time to unite ourselves and empower ourselves ....you are all awesome, beautiful, talented, this has inspiring...
Tuition fees are low in public Higher education. the French government subsidizes higher education. The true cost of education is the same as it is elsewhere in the world-around €10,000 a year. The difference is that in France the government assumes a large share of that cost.
I think to understand the French fascination with Black Americans, one has to look at Josephine Baker, Nina Simone, Richard Wright and a host of Black American Jazz musicians who were welcomed with open arms in France.
Being welcomed with open arms doesn’t mean there’s a fascination with Black Americans lol, if the French were fascinated, it was by their talent, regardless of race. France already had a black general at the time of the revolution while Americans still had discrimination laws a century later...
@@synkaan2167 You may want to take a look at the French Men's National Basketball team, most of them are a result of liaisons between Black men and White French women. How do you explain that mr know it all?
@@akken2112 Should white French men and women refuse to get into relationships with black people ? There are more white people than black people in France, so when there’s mixing, inevitably, a significant portion of black children are mixed-race lol. And you're doing what is called "cherry-picking" (is the French basketball team the only thing you know about French population ? Do you think it's representative ?) because there are obviously plenty of examples of black children born in France who aren't mixed race (even more, in fact), so there's clearly nothing systematic about it lol. It seems you're confusing not being racist or communitarian with fascination, which is something else entirely.
Just watched this from start to finish and it was an eye-opener as in France 101 for black people. I think every American at one time or another has dreamt of going to Paris. Maybe not to live but definitely visit. BTW, thanks for making the distinction that Paris is not France. Same racism just a different location. Thanks for also sharing the positives of the health care system (doctors making affordable house calls) and a Master's degree on the cheap. But obviously a quality education because your panel sounds (and looks) fantastic. OK, they probably had that when they moved there. Y'all saved the juicest information for last....dating ....oooh la la 💞
Thanks so much Joy for your generous words. I am also thankful that you watched it all the way thru. I so look forward to our juicy digital live panel 🖤 folk will fall in love with you 🙏🏾
ABSOLUTELY LOVE LOVE that African Americans and English are sharing the privileges they have benefited from implicit bias. The only way we can ALL educate ourselves on our hidden bias is to acknowledge how we benefit from them. Traveled to Paris in 2010 with my American children and American girl friend and I would ask my American girl friend to navigate difficult situations and they treated her very well. It was very obvious but my American girl friend did not notice it at all and it made me sad. I am from Africa.
Great conversation, different points of view and experiences, loved it. Another panel with black French or white French or African French or métisse Wille be a great way to compare notes and experiences.
A black British is vaunted as much as a black American relative to the black French and black Africans. This is the case wherever you go. The outside black will always be seen as more exotic than the indegenes black in that society Globally an African Americans “ Americanness” will always elevate him/ her above other blacks and in how they are treated by that society Go to Asia for instance and see the difference.
In French society, your status doesn't depend on your race, but on what you do. If you are a soccer player, a musician, a nurse, a physician, a cook / chef, a fashion model, a fashion designer, an actor, etc. you are a somebody. If you sweep the streets, you are a nobody, although people will respect you as a human being. :)
Man, I sooo wish I had found you guys in early Spring of 2021. I came as a student right after they went into the 3rd lockdown and was disillusioned by unexpected racism and the reality of curfew (which I hadn't experienced in the US) hit hard. I ended up leaving early, but I sometimes look back and wonder what could of happened if circumstances had been different.
Yeah, it was a mess. We had just bought a house right before lockdowns and had to pretend we were exercising just to move because we couldn't get permission from mairie to go outside during lockdown 😂 we were told that if the police stopped us, we'd still be at fault. I will never forget it.
Hello sweet lady! You will probably never see this post, being that I'm commenting on an old video. Just the same, I would like to say that I've enjoyed your video! I was looking for information on Africans in Brazil when I came across your videos. thank you for sharing your experiences with many of us who never leave America to venture out. Before I go any further, please let me say that you are a beautiful woman! I'm sure you've been told that many times, as well as, you know that you are. Just the same, I would like to say it. Lol. You are a natural in front of the camera, and your smile is contagious. Lol. No, I'm not flirting. Just stating facts! Keep doing what you're doing...I pray that you have a long life and good health. God be with you on your journeys!!! Oh, and I have subscribed to your channel. Your smile is what got me!!!
It's not a matter of being black it's a matter of being arrogant, sufficient in your way of thinking, as being as such, you can remain off the boundaries of France indeed. But I didn't know some black people may be so narrow in mind as to think they deserve something or a place over someone else's. I think that's poor and definitely unproductive to think racially just as an offset defense in response to past colonialism or slavery.
I loved this! I wish I could get the perspective of an older/retired African American person living there. Side note - the moderator reminds me so much of Jada Pinkett😃
As a french woman, you made me so sad😭. I hear more racism and self segregation in your talks that I have ever heard or experienced in all my long life ! Except of course in RN leaders mouthes. I LOVE asking people where they come from, I love meeting people from everywhere in the world, learning about their culture, their experiences. Why would it be rude ??? I admire people able to leave their country. They have so much to tell. All pupils are the equal children of the Republic. All have the same rights and obligations. They come at school to learn, to be teached scientific truthes. Religions must NOT interfere. Religion is between your soul, your faith and your God, it belongs to the private sphere. It has made too much harm in the previous centuries when the State and the Church was one. And it still continues in Iran or Afghanistan. This is why the principle of secularism is sacred in French school and administration. To guarantee equality of treatment and freedom of cult. The french administration is the same for all. The fact that we treat differently immigrants from the USA or from Europe than those from Africa proves that it's NOT a matter of skin colour racism. I suppose it's because most of the illegal immigration comes from Africa, that most of them were poor and uneducated, while americans that come to France are generally motivated by the french culture. And don't forget we are under a maximum state of terrorism alert. I'm sorry if the police asked for your ID, but I must admit that most of the authors of terrorists attacks of the last decades in France had either an arab or a black physical type. It is not true there are no black people on TV. Harry Roselmack, Magloire, Corinne Lemarchand, a lot of journalists like Audrey Pulvar, actors, politicians (Christiane Taubira, former minister)... are famous and popular.
pardon mais tu dis UN PEU de la merde ==> je vote RN et je suis probablement moins raciste que 90% des gauchistes et des gens de maniere generale ==> je suis physcicien (pas totalement debile donc) je sais que trop bien comment est extrait le koltan de ton portable par ex et comment sont fabriqués les textils qui t habillent peut etre de la tete au pied perso je ne m' habille pas en textil mortifere fabriqués par des momes de 14 ans a 5000km de chez nouset mon portable a 12 ans ensuite je suis rationnel et cartesien (forcement de par mon taff) , je place la raison bien au dessus des croyances debiles mais etant conscient que tout le monde n'est pas g.perelman et que certains ont besoin d'ami imaginaire je suis pour que chacun puisse pratiquer sa religion mais cela doit se faire dans un cadre STRICTEMENT PRIVE et donc sans aucune revendication ni signe ostentatoire et non cela ne fait pas de moi un gros facho pour finir le racisme est de considerer l'autre comme inferrieur , pas de voir des des differences qui parfois trop importantes rend l integration impossible et c'est justement parceque je ne suis pas raciste que je suis contre toute ingerence (meme chez les talibans) qd pleins de donneurs de lecons veulent imposer leur position partout dans le monde qui est le plus raciste moi qui vote RN mais ne contribue pas à faire mourrir des gosses a l'autre bout du monde avec du mercure ou du koltan ou des donneurs de lecons mais habillés de la tete au pied avec du textil qui tuent des gamins et un portable flambant rempli de koltan ?
@@morphilou Que j'ai dit de la m..., c'est possible. Je n'ai pas réussi à m'exprimer clairement en anglais. J'ai trop de respect pour les idéaux et principes humanistes et fraternels de ma chère France pour supporter les diatribes nauséabondes du RN qui nous tirent vers le bas, voire la fange morale. Trop vieille pour changer. Ce n'est pas votre idée de la France que mon grand-père est allé défendre au Chemin des Dames. J'ai pondu tout un paragraphe pour défendre le principe républicain de la laïcité, en particulier à l'école. Là-dessus, on est d'accord, non ? J'en suis à mon 2e téléphone portable depuis que les téléphones portables existent, car le précédent m'a lâchée, tout simplement. Avant, c'était un "be-bop", c'est dire ! Je n'achète jamais de fringues ou chaussures tant qu'il n'y a pas de trou d'usure, du moment que j'ai 3 tenues pour faire ma semaine entre 2 lessives. Je boycotte Shein et Temu, ne porte que des fibres naturelles, n'ai pour produit de beauté que mon dentifrice, mon gel douche et mon déo, et je fais mes courses à la supérette la plus proche. Franchement, à part élever des moutons pour m'en tricoter mes vêtements, je ne vois pas comment je pourrais être plus éloignée de la fast fashion et des travers consuméristes dont tu m'affubles gratuitement.🤷🏻♀️
@@morphilou Elle n'a pas parlé de tous les électeurs mais du discours de certains "leaders" du RN, donc c'est p-e toi qui dis UN PEU de la merde... Et visiblement en tant qu'électeur tu n'as pas remarqué sans parler de l'histoire de ce partie fondé par des SS et collabo (histoire que Marine Le Pen considère toujours "épique et glorieuse") qu'une partie de leurs candidats étaient ouvertement racistes ou fascistes (certains ont par exemple été photographié/filmé en train de faire le salut nazi ou de porter une casquette nazi je vois pas ce qu'il vous faut de plus clair à ce stade) et dans l'entourage de Marine Le Pen on retrouve aussi des membres du GUD et il y a aussi eu de nombreux attentats ou tentatives d'attentats dans lesquels des membres et candidat de ce parti ont été impliqué ou ont clairement participé (l'attentat à la mosquée de Bayonne en 2019 c'était par un ancien candidat par exemple) Bref c’est pas le lieux mais je pourrais faire un post d'une page rien que sur les éléments racistes ou antisémites de ce parti, sur ces liens avec le terrorisme etc.
@@synkaan2167 je me suis arreter la ==> parler de l'histoire de ce partie fondé par des SS et collabo auj la lfi et certain des es membre sont 100 fois plus dangereux et visiblement tu n as rien lu de ce que j'ai ecris je ne perd plus mon temps avec les QI a la delogu
@@synkaan2167 tu veux qu on parle d un deputé qui a a tabassé a un gamin de 15 ans a 3 vs 1 et fiché s ? ! pour le reste je ne vais pas perde mon temps a tout demonter je sais que cela ne servira a rien
Hello, I'm French. There are things to improve in France and difficulties as in all countries. As one of your participants said, the history of France is different from that of the United States or other countries. Each country's culture is different, which can lead to misunderstandings. In France, in 1905, a law on secularism was created to guarantee equality and to ensure that there was no discrimination between religions. There was a separation between the Church and the State. The state guarantees freedom of worship for every citizen. Public schools become secular (but not private schools). Everyone can practise his religion as he sees fit in the private sphere. Many people of foreign origin are not aware of this law, which creates misinterpretation. It was a very good law back then. Currently, under the Act "The wearing of manifestly religious signs and clothing is prohibited in public schools (but not in private schools). The law affirms the principle of secularism, which is inseparable from the principle of equality and respect for others, by consolidating the school of the Republic. , which bears the values of the Republic, including the equality of all human beings and equality between men and women. This principle is a corollary to the fight against all forms of discrimination within the School, prohibiting speech and behaviour aimed at reducing others to religions or religious behaviour. ethnicity. » However, darker distinctive signs such as Fatma's hand, little cross, etc. are permitted. In university, since students are older, there is no ban. I do not question what has been said at all and only the person in question can judge. Personally, when I meet a foreign person regardless of their country and skin colour, I ask them where they come from because I care about them. It is not discrimination or racism at all. There is a black minister in the government and there were others in previous governments. There are also more and more black journalists on French television, I hope it continues.
let's not forget that the wearing of obvious "religious symbols" was only a symptom... the people who were, say, expressing their faith by the attire they were wearing, often expressed quite strongly their religious views on certain subjects in school (History, biology and civics mainly). Of course, the opponents to the law only talked about the attire, not what the youngsters were "preaching" in school... we did not extricate ourselves from the Church clutches during the bloodbath that was the 1st revolution, to now having to submit to sharia...
Stats based on skin colour are allowed in France but not everybody are allowed to take them to avoid manipulation and instrumentalisation like we see in the US. Only the gov institutions and researchers like sociologists who ask for a special authorisation for a specific work can collect such data.
Really interesting discussion! Merci pour les pensees!! I love this format, it feels like we (as viewers) are part of the circle. I grew up in London as a high school student (I’m white, female, American) and studied French and art history at ParisIV, EcoIe du Louvre, think that London is the most diverse city in the western world. I never saw racism there like in the USA. London’s not perfect but maybe just such a melting pot of nationalities. I realize I have no idea what it’s like being Black, but I grew up most of life in other countries and never really felt completely American either. “Paris is not France.” Love ❤️ that. I also speak French like a Parisian (by education) but not fluently. Thanks for sharing your perspectives - best to you!! 🎉😊
good discussion. But as a French métis your vision about mixed is very funny for me. For you a mixed is a black but for us is neither black or white but both so a mix. So yes I could be offended if someone say I'm back because I never see me like that and I'm proud of both my white and black part
And you're not black. Black people in the states are pretty ignorant. White people in the states DO treat biracial different. So when black people tell them they are black and will be treated black - its not true I see how my biracial daughter is treated. She is not a black woman. She is both. She loves it. But it's ignorant foe black women to say a white woman can recreate her.
@@LisaSoulLevelHealingso interesting, thank you... our discussions have tended to binaries, identities are complicated..in the USA, historically, was so much mixing, sometimes involuntary..including Native Americans, seems not in the discussion at all anymore..maybe we are trying to forget?
I never had the opportunity to go to the states or to anywhere else . Nevertheless I learn English on YT and globally love my outside world . Greetings from France . ☀️☀️ So for me the best way to understand a culture is to dive into the related language .
Lmao i laughed so hard at america as influenced the world more than any other country. Really ? Ever heard of england ? Of france ? Of china ? so i don t think ys french hate americans, but if it s a bit true, this very attitude is one of the reasons why. Also, as a black french person i have been disrespected by afroamericans because y'know they are better than an african in their minds (not all of them, but it happens) i m glad y'all like it here, and it s heart warming to see you appreciate our place. Enjoy your stay !
New subscriber here! This video is soooo interesting! I'm French from Italian origins (Sicily exactly) and I grew up in a town in the South of France. I had many Moroccan and Tunisian friends growing up and I remember very vividly the day I understood what White privilege was. My family spoke Italian at home and most of my family members couldn't read or stopped school at 13-14 so I was under the impression that my life experience at school was the same as my Moroccan and Tunisian friends who came from immigrant families as well. I felt close to them since I didn't feel 100% French myself either even if I was born in France. When I was 18, I was in the French equivalent of Senior Year (= Terminale) and we were applying for Summer jobs my friends and I. I got one quite easily and they didn't. I didn't understand why at first and then they told me that they were having troubles finding apartments for college too because of their names that sounded too Arabic. I had never realized that this type of racism or discrimination was a thing in France and on that day I realized that even if I was burdened by immigration and illiteracy in my family like them, I had a privilege that they didn't: I was white and my name was European. So, I really get what you're trying to say about racism being more "under the rug" in France. Concerning "Laïcité" ( = securalism or universalism), the concept is very French and quite weird to understand if you're not French I guess but originally, the intent was not a racist one but these past 20 years "laïcité" has been used by far right people as a tool to impose racist and conservative views.
des termes comme laïcité , racisme etc.... sont totalement galvaudés à notre époque . Ils ont totalement changé de définition et sont mal utilisés .....
This is a quite interesting and informative stuff, but I stand to be contradicted, as I am of the opinion that it would have been much broadened had you guys invited Black French, be it from French West Indies (les Antilles) or les DOM-TOM and African backgrounds, to give you their perspectives, enlighten the conversation I am of Angolan origin, grew up in Pau (les Pyrénées Atlantiques) then moved to Marseille, and finally Aix-en-Provence (PACA), before leaving France for UK in 1995 where I have been to date
You are the second person to write this. I actually reached out to such person and invited them to do a panel in the near future. Would this be something you would be interested in participating in? Also, Steve at the end is Black Parisian
I agree..the African American energy here is inspiring influential and wonderful, yet limited..Rae aims this to young people who might aspire to live in Paris, and this is great result. If it's possible to open up the age , maybe even class range and as you write, original backgrounds. i don't know that it's possible to do effectively though, and I applaud her efforts. There are some interesting things coming from African American expats in Ghana ad Uganda, and it seems difficult to open the lens for meaningfully multiple perspectives.. Meanwhile, I do so enjoy this group's verve and spirit, and Rae's amazing hosting.😊
@@augustomundombe829 Wow! Bob Marley is in my top 3 but as an artivist. He used his music to portray the social injustices of the world, just like Nina Simone
@@raeagwe You are right on points; with facts and reality back you up.... Yes indeed; Bob Marley he is the only musical artist that African people and in general in our world; that people see him has the champion of social justice ... In mother Africa we see him with all the greatest leaders of PAN AFRICAN.
Kind of lends some perspective, I think. I keep thinking about how musicians, especially during the jazz age, got their heads spun by living or just performing in France. At home, they were seen as no more than entertainers, in France they were seen as artists. Miles Davis' sojourn in France and his depression coming back was one of the best examples. The cynic in me assumed that the reason the French were so much more comfortable with Blacks from anywhere was that the majority of their racism was directed against Arabs. And yet things are much more complex under the surface I guess. Not always bad, but complicated.
It's power and classism. We come to bring culture (which they hold to a high standard), and not compete for Jon's (which translates for money and power). It's no surprise we are treated a certain way.
@@LisaSoulLevelHealing I'm not saying that the love wasn't real. Every now and then there's a pheromonal attraction between peoples and cultures that may often be very different. For decades if not centuries, Americans took Black culture for granted as something amusing but never sublime, while the French saw a good thing and held onto it. And the love was repaid. Josephine Baker's work in the Resistance, for example.
Thanks you this conversation. I’m learning French and I’m moving us out of the U.S. France is on the list. I’m also an artist and DJ so it’s good to hear that your perspectives on what it takes to create and thrive. Merci!
I'm just coming for a 7day vacation with my adult daughter. I'm concerned about the safety of Black American females. Any DOs and DON'Ts we should be aware of? Thanks in advance!
Safety should be considered as in any big city. Try to fit in, keep your wallets and phones close to your chest amd don't be out too late at night. Check out my video on safety when traveling while Black, especially as a woman th-cam.com/video/0ODjfla4_iE/w-d-xo.html
@@lynnkelly6989 don't be nervous 🙏🏾 I believe in you. You raised a daughter in this world, so you've nothing to be nervous about! Let me know if you've any other questions. Feel free to email me - raeagwe@gmail.com
I don't know what you talk about. French people don't hate american people. Some have indeed a problem with the domination of USA regarding culture and politics in the world, but there is no hatred at all against the american folk.
I really enjoyed the conversation. I lived in 5 different European countries and I don't find them any different than White Americans. I decided that I'm better off here in the USA.n,I glad I had the European experience. It taught me a lot about the European mentality. If you're going into live amongst them, you must understand them. Lately I've been traveling to Latin America and I love the vibe. No desire to ever visit Europe again.
@@raeagwe Yes, I know exactly what you mean. You will not find more accomplished Black folks than African Americans. I see African Americans flocking to Portugal, but when reality kicks in and the honeymoon is over, they'll be back. They think because there are a lot of Black people there, that the Portuguese are not racist. They are the most racist of all of the colonizers. African slaves have been it Portugal since 1444, yet they have no political nor economic power. If you are Black in Europe, there is a glass ceiling, no matter how talented you are . God bless you wherever you are. 🙏
There is lways a confusion beetween illegal migration and racism. The first is a politic question. Racism i really don't know. France is a millenary civilization made by wars into Europe. African began to come massively in France after their independance.
@@fabs8498 I don't believe anyone with common sense would confuse the 2. Was it legal migration when Europeans stole land and invaded every single continent? Did they get permission from the indigenous people to be there? I think you know the answer. Hypocrisy at its best.
Of course there’s classism in America. There’s classism within the black community, the Jack and Jill clubs, certain HBCUa, families who vacationed in Oak Bluff, live in certain section of town, etc.
The colorism come from USA.. and I disagree about what the french guy has said, We black people from France has grown up with African music (mostly ) , movie from Africa, Afro Carabean stuff etc... And black American stuff as well , but saying that the only image we had was only from USA ain't true at all.... But it was interesting 🔥 hotep 🙏🏾
Colorism comes from America?? 🤨 Colorism is everywhere: India and other parts of Asia, Spain, many parts of Europe, and many countries in Africa. I’m sure we weren’t the ones who introduced colorism.
Last point - if you have a Black child and you are not French and you have the option of them being formed positively at a critical age without solely relying on their time at home, please get them out as fast as possible. You are completely nuts if you expect to get any strong Black identity and self-esteem reinforcements from their experiences in most of France. Take to heart what the British-Nigerian gentleman in white on the left express about the visuals of Black people and their positions/roles in daily life. Janitors, service workers - nothing against those folks and their livelihood but that cannot be the sole masses of Black people your child sees on the daily. Not only are the optics bad for self-esteem but it is beyond optics...that is what the French expects in this day and age. We are not even talking to the level of role models. We are just talking about the facts of where opportunities exist. Black Americans must realize that most of the well-known Black folks the French have been in love with are largely foreigners. They love many of our strong top business and influential political leaders yet those would never be produced en France! Ever. They do not create the environment that allows a nice chocolate cake to be made yet they love themselves a nice, tasty chocolate cake...you get me?
@@raeagwe Okay sure haha, let me rephrase.. should I move to Canada or Paris? Haha.. I'm from Mumbai and about to start a new life. Been accepted to American business school of Paris but perhaps o should rather go to a public uni?
Ah yes! Mumbai, fantastic! Canada is sensational! I lived in Paris for 5 years and I have a love/hate relationship with it. So, I am probably not the best person to ask.
When I was young ( In 80s in France ), I was in a banlieue school and was living in a banlieue appartement (citée HLM). I was not in Paris, but in middle of France. My friends at school was for most of them Arabs and Muslim. There was not a lot Blacks families, so very few Blacks childs in school. That why the French guy says there was no blacks at the TV. After the WW2 France brought Arabs to rebuild the country and they stayed. But Blacks people come very after all that. There were blacks during the war but very few stayed, either died or returned home. Because France is not just the French territory. I believe it is 3 times larger than France itself.
En fait c'est simple..."Du droit à la différence , certains seraient inspiré de réclamer celui à l'indifférence " Ce qui apaise et simplifie les rapports...Les lois Françaises ,n'ont pas vocation à encourager les communautarismes...😊
Bonjour, that was interesting although there's a couple of cultural differences, or foundations of the french society, that did not get enough or any attention. - so if "Universalism" was mentioned, and frown upon, Laicité (constitutional principle of secularism) was not and that's a bit of a problem an would have explained some reactions concerning french schools, so no it was not all about the age of the students. And if look into it, keep in mind that in practice Laicité is not absolute and strict by nature, it's supposed to be flexible enough to adapt to the state of society. And surprisingly Laicité is something that americans can sometimes find hard to understand which is also interesting. - Another hot topic that was not mentioned is communitarianism, again as opposed to universalism. - Racial (and police) problems in France are very real and most unfortunately not dealt with with enough force, and i don't see that getting better anytime soon, social medias or not. Also don't be fooled by individual representation of a group at higher levels of the society, there's been a few members of the government that were from ethnic backgrounds in the past decade, and as i was inferring to, i can remember a Trump supporter answering a journalist during the campaign, saying "Obama was great, he made everything racial overnight" and i don't know if the Obama administration has been looked at by the various us communities yet but i have a feeling the end result wasn't as expected, not saying it was his fault of course. - Finally any ideal (liberté égalité fraternité, we usually add laicité as well) is a goal to reach, not something already achieved and left unattended, including democracy for that matter.
French attitudes towards black people stem from a very divergent colonial and slavery history compared to the UK. In XVIIIth century French colonies, free people of color were not rare at all, but were divided based on their skin tone and proportion of white blood, with different rights and social opportunities. Slaves could be freed or buy themselves relatively frequently, and white people were strongly pressured to adopt and educate their mixed-race offspring. French racism however results more from the prejudices against African natives that justified the XIXth century French colonization of Africa and the influx of cheap workers from these area post WWII - it's as much classism as it is racism, in the lines of "they're poor, uneducated, therefore stupid". Since there is always more crime among poor, segregated neighborhood, where many black people live, and since black people are way more religious than average while France considers that public expression of religion is a threat to peace, liberty and security since the XVIth century Wars of religion, black people are also seen as a potential threat.
France is great 4 bras, shh! Sistahs still mean and won't say, 'Bonjour' back. Mad cooperation from everyone else, hate to admit. Didn't feel racism at all. Ww don't clinch their purses at all. Friendly. Safer, better than Colombia/DR/PR.
surement que les americains noirs sentent moins de racisme par rapport aux personnes venant. d afrique parce que les français vont présumer qu ils ont plus ou moins la même culture .si vous parler par exemple du droit des gays dans la communauté africaine vous verrez que ça vaut largement le racisme.
Pour la région Parisienne, il ne faut pas oublier la menace terrorisme que notre pays a du subir,ou encore la menace des actes antisocial ! La police dois systématiquement, pour faire sont travail imaginé en permanence le pire de la société pour la protéger !
Denial? That's not in France that 50% of the homeless are Black nationals, Black people in France aren't regularly killed, victims of police brutality, social and judiciary injustice, constantly at the bottom of the social ladder despite having built America, disproportionately represented in jail, treated as a simple quota in entertainment productions. To be fair that's the same for everyone for the latter. Like others said that would have been useful to get the perspective from actual French people and the perspective isn't the same depending on the background (born and bred vs immigrants, slaves descendants vs immigrants descendants) plus the other Black people who actually speak French as their mother tongue. And people aren't just French in France. They are whatever they tell you they are and they don't necessarily reduce themselves to a skin colour or where a late late grandfather was born. Some are only French, some have multiple backgrounds and cultures.
They assume that you are métisse if you are with a light skin because in Europe and specifically in France there are so many métisses. You are upset at things in assuming some stereotypes just because you know so little about the country where you live.
Actually, that's incorrect. If you were to put pure Africans and Black Americans in a room together, and they all dressed similarly, you'd never know who is who. I've been to many parts of Africa and pass for African. This is exactly why some French people treat me poorly, as they think I'm African. It infuriates me 🤦🏾
@@raeagwe I mean, I've lived in USA and England and France and I can definitely tell, ok this person is from Africa, and this one is either mix or from USA. Especially from face physical features. The ones in Africa have a hint of arabic/North African
@@_marcobaez I would recommend that you do a little more research. Dive into communities that are predominantly black with an open mind and an open heart. You'll learn that there are differences in mentality. But when it comea to physical attributes - very similar. My father looks very African whilst born and raised in Kingaton, Jamaica
@@raeagwe ah yeah I know what you mean, I guess I pay attention to the slightest detail like a detective, so I don't mean to generalize but yes a lot of people don't even think before speaking thinking it's ok. I find French people are open if you tell them you don't find something cool and will quickly apologize, even feeling terrible
En tant que métisse française de père noir et de mère blanche, tous deux Français, il est dommage que vous n’ayez pas invité un Noir français. Vous auriez certainement eu un autre point de vue intéressant, un autre éclairage et cela aurait pu approfondir davantage l’analyse que vous avez faite et l’orienter dans d’autres directions. Je voulais aussi juste rebondir sur l’interdiction du port du voile à l’école ( je suis professeur de lycée). Il ne s’agit pas d’ôter la liberté à qui que ce soit mais la France est un pays laïc ou beaucoup de gens sont athées et l’école est laïque depuis 1889. Les signes extérieurs de religion sont interdits à juste titre! Il y a une loi pour tous encadrant, en application du principe de laïcité, le port de signes ou de tenues manifestant une appartenance religieuse dans les écoles, collèges et lycées publics. Je suis catholique et je retire la croix que je porte autour du cou quand je vais au lycée ou je la cache sous mes vêtements. Par ailleurs nous avons un système de santé que beaucoup nous envient et nous sommes très bien soignés et pris en charge ( nous recevons à partir d’un certain âge des invitations pour passer des examens de dépistage entièrement gratuits ( dépistage pour certains cancers par exemple ) mais hélas certains Français n’en ont pas conscience! C’est la même chose pour l’école qui est gratuite pour tous et le coût de l’inscription à l’université qui est faible par rapport à celui des Etats-Unis. Quant au racisme, en France il fait moins peur et est moins prononcé qu’aux États-Unis. Dans la fonction publique, où la loi qui interdit la discrimination à l’embauche est appliquée, on peut trouver des femmes noires qui occupent des postes élevés. Nous avons des femmes politiques noires telle que Christiane Taubira, une députée européenne noire qui a fait voter le projet du mariage homosexuel ou une autre , secrétaire d’état sous Sarkozy etc. D’ailleurs c’est dans la fonction publique qu’on trouve le plus de Noirs bien qu’aujourd’hui ils tendent de plus en plus vers le privé, mais à l’époque, au début des années 60, c’était pour eux plus facile de trouver un emploi dans le public. Sans vouloir offenser personne je pense qu’il est plus facile pour un Noir de vivre en France qu’aux Etats-Unis. Les crimes racistes des policiers c’est aux Etats-Unis qu’ils sont le plus nombreux. Ici ils restent rarissimes. Certes en tant que métisse je ne rencontre pas de problème de racisme ( ou alors je ne m’en rends pas compte). Mes parents n’ont pas beaucoup dû affronter ce problème non plus. Le racisme existe de toute façon dans tous les pays du monde mais se manifeste différemment selon histoire du pays. Bonne journée à tous
Everyone has a different experience in life. Still, I'd speak to the same family and see what they say after 5 years of living in France (especially if Black and poor/middle class)
@@raeagwe Sure you have poor peoples in France, blacks ,whites , yellows like every countries in the world ,but at least the poorest of the poor's still have access to free health care . The chance for a French black to live longer is much bigger than a black Americans ,you should know better ,i think we should stop going back and forte you and i we are not doing a contest I wish you and your people a good life in France
I’ve been visiting France since 1978 and as a young white American I would get these lectures about how France could never be racist like the US. Now I’m in my 60’s and these same people do nothing but complain about Arab and African immigration to France and they have all left or are leaving metro Paris for “safer” parts of France and that includes some of their adult children who don’t want their kids going to school in metro Paris. I could see French people wanting to impress black Americans to show them they are not like racist Americans and then at the same time hating black french people and black immigrants. I’ve seen these same attitudes in places like Guangzhou China, who were all good and then started blaming the African immigrants once something happened, which in that case was blaming them for Covid.
The truths is paradise do not exist, where ever you go you have to makes some choices ,after all those years living in France you still are no happy well i think it is times to move back in the US and enjoy your future ,lots of peoples will jump to take your place in France--
i didn't have the patience to listen to all y'all's talk, but the id story at 55:00 was pretty weak. i'm not saying that racism doesn't exist, but most of it is in your imagination. take a chill pill
"America has influenced the world more than any other country", he says in ENGLISH! Has he any idea why America and much of the world speaks English? Or why there is no more slavery despite the fact that it was normal all over the world for tens of thousands of years?
Yes! Exactly what a French guy would say 🙏🏾 walk 30 seconds in my shoes during my 5 years living in Paris and then we can talk. Until then, keep your comments coming from the "French guy" perspective. I would advise you watch the entire video and try to listen with an open mind and heart, without being defensive
@@raeagwe what seems to upset you is the idea that apart from a few bigots, no one here really cares about which 'race' you are. Especially in Paris. What matters is how you behave (it's more of a social class thing than a racial one) and how you integrate into French society which as you know is not community-based.
@@francoisleyrat8659 Like - integrate into society by taking off my hijab in order to take my visa picture? To me, this is very racist. Moreover, it is quite tricky when a non-Black person tries to explain away racism from their non-Black perspective. I would advise again to watch the entire video ... also, read up on French history and its colonization of other countries. And, if you are Black, then I really do not know what to say.
I don't have an issue with americans... I have an issue with american politicians and to some extent the americans that elected them. It's hard to be respectful of millions that did vote for Trump. I don't think americans understand how much impact they have on the rest of the world when they go to vote (or not which is worse). Electing Trump completely annihilated many international cooperation projects that mattered. It's also concerning to see an individual like Trump given access to nuclear weapons. What am I suppose to think when I see americans elected Marjorie Taylor Green ? Am I suppose to assume that the people that elected her are good people ? Am I mistaken to think that in electing Trump the american voted also for his views ? And if you didn't vote, well you choose to let someone else decide for you... I'm just saying, I'm french but I know quite well american politics and it's most definitely what made me lose a lot of respect for the american themselves. They let it happen. And surprisingly, I have the feeling Trump despite being a felon has good chances to be elected again. We see the good in american culture but we also see the bad coming to France and some of these cultural elements are completely opposed to french culture. It's not the point of the video but I just wanted to explain a bit how I perceive america and in my opinion how many other french people do. We don't have really an issue with american themselves but more on their politics. Also, politically, the "left" in the US is pretty much the far-right in France. It's a completely different spectrum. So I would even argue that a "moderate republican' in the US could be seen as a far-right here. Dare say you are a socialist in the US, it won't go well. So americans are amazed at our social system when they live in France, but cannot fathom the idea of politics pushing for social reform. This 7 euros bill at the pharmacy is the result of years of social struggle. In any case, this video was very interesting for the very french and white privileged man that I'm. The thing that struck me the most was when Daniel said that he noticed people respecting him more when he used his voice. I think that's a great way to illustrate racism to someone that didn't experience it first hand. Obviously, it's sad that this is still way too common in Europe and in France of course. Anyway, I hope you all enjoy your stay in France and wish you a lot of success and friendship here !
Black, white, yellow or whatever we are all going to get grey hair at some point. And me I'm a redhead so don't talk to me about being in the minority lol. People in Africa are still killing redheads and albinos to sell their organs for "sorcery" purposes... One more thing : if you one of your child is born Albinos, don't torture this child by forcing him/her to live by sunlight. Redheads are more adapted to living in low irradiance, and albinos are not adapted to living in the day light at all. Let them live by night, where they can be the happiest...
Haven't watched everything. I like Nigerian much more than Americans (for one Nigerians are better at football ^^). But... i don't think most people here understand where they live. A lot of this is pushing one's values upon others. Now, that is perfectly fine, but for those influenced by american crap, forget about coming to France. You wouldn't be popular here, and would start spouting crap about France being racist when 80% of the problem would be you being obnoxious and getting what you deserve. There is some racism in France, and from my experience, it is tied to a reality that is less about races and more about nationalism. Here is a little something: I wouldn't advise going to France to any person who considers that quotas by skin colors are necessary, for example. Racial statistics are forbidden since forever in France. 5 out of the 18 french regions are not in Europe and comprise places where people are never born white. Making a difference in citizenship between them and metropolitan France is unthinkable. There are reasons why the concept of races doesn't exist in France. Positive discrimination is discrimination. Making laws to force people in some places is not equality. I don't understand the american quotas by skin color, since they are inherently racists to me. From the french perspective, what some foreigners (mostly from english speaking countries actually, because it seems they all follow the same USA anti-model for an unknown reason) call racism is actually laws against racism. And what such people call anti-racism is racism to the french. Americans have, for example, spout countless racists comments against the french football team when they won the world cup in 2018. The players got angry. Americans went, spout more racist comments, and told them that this was their own fault because the poor sods didn't understand what racism was. And anger against the USA never really faded in France.
The AMERICAN host MAKE A MISTAKE putting the word RACISM toward French who say "OH, YOU ARE AMERICAN !....bla bla. welcome etc....." NO, it,s not racism, IT,S NOT...you are BLACK WOMAN ..REMEMBER !!! If we were racist, whatever you are AMERICAN or not, we will hate you because you are black.. SO, WE DON,T , yes, to be black English or Black AMERICAN is a privilege because you are DE FACTO more educated and we appreciate this. I,am FRENCH and I lived in US 15years, American do not love French really, I read some comment on line and it was like the KKK toward FRENCH. Just my $.002
Thanks much for your comment. Firstly, to gain some clarity, as the American host of the panel, I shared my experiences of racism, as being perceived first as African. Once I felt the discrimination and began to speak in English, their attitude changed. It still does not negate the racism towards me as I was first thought to be African. Remember, my skin color shows up first, before anyone ever hears me speak. And as my French is "minimal", I often am assumed to be African and sadly the racism ensues. Secondly, for you to actually write that being Black English or Black American is a privilege because you feel that we are more educated therefore you appreciate us more IS RACIST! It shows your ignorance. The fact that you refuse to open your ears and your heart and LISTEN to what was said speaks volumes. Lastly, you then of course flip the script and make it all about you. Why?! So please, as a French person, do better. For people like you prove my point and make the French look bad. I would advise that you watch the entire video again. You may just learn something. Blessings!!! Oh and, please do keep your comments coming 🙏🏾😊🙏🏾
@@raeagwe OK, we go to play !!!!.. i believe you are ignorant about black African immigrant in FRANCE. They saying mostly NEVER feel the racism here in FRANCE.. you can find a lot in youtube. PERIOD... Also, of course, you don't, imagine how the "racism' fade totally when you have a super sexy hot african beauty on the street.. ask to her if she feel racism in France😁😁😁😀😂😂😂... A sort of racism can be easily feel in France but it,s not a racism in fact but a feeling to be invaded. And what ever the other race..FRANCE is 1 of the oldest country in europe, since 2000,3000 years ago, we live here ( but this is another story)... I was in the lycee marcel Roby in St Germain en Laye, one my friend was THE ONLY BLACK STUDENT (from DOM TOM) among the other 3200 student. He never felt any racism in this hight school... imagine this in USA in the end of the 70s!!!!!.... remember FRANCE HAVE BLACK REGIONS overseas called the DOM-TOM . no one French politician from far left to the FAR RIGHT Zemmour want them out of France. As an American yourself, French are polite but not excessively like in USA ( I KNOW THIS) and you can feel yourself as sort of racism feeling when it,s not.. we Don, t smile stupidly all time as American do ! 😁
@@cgleisberg3355 if anyone is ignorant ... it is you. I would advise you to re-watch the entire discussion. I would also invite you to not use your 1 Black associate as an answer to a very complex issue.. Lastly, I would recommend that you not speak on issues from the African/Black perspective, as a White French male. Instead listen - you may just learn something versus being defensive about a point you have and will never experience - simply due to the color of your skin.
Well said ,i agree with you i live about 20 km from the US border Niagara falls new York ,and i can feel the same animosity against us French's i do have an accent, no color skins but the result is the same ,if those peoples are so critical of the French's or France they should move out and enjoy their beautiful life in the US ,have a nice day
I'm french and i don't get why US Americans always need to say they are black or white in every phrase. There is nothing to be proud or ashamed to be black or white or anything you didn't choose.
You have to understand that the USA was founded on racism, therefore race is very, very important. You should read a book titled 'The Counter-revolution of 1776' by Dr Gerald Horne.
You have to know American history. FYI, I was in Paris for the Olympics and amazed at the French mixing of the races
@@KennardTucker-ug3pf I lived in Europe for over a year, France was by far the country I felt most comfortable in, even when compared to the USA.
Because you didn’t grow up in America and experience as a black American. Not every black American talk like that.
As a white French this is a typical white French way to see things
There's should have been 2 black french people there. One who's french from the french west indies and one's who's french because their parents immigrated to France. Generally speaking our views on racism and other things that you struggle to understand about us are different from what other french people might think. It's unfortunate.
Wow! That is very interesting. If you'd be interested to be apart of a panel, please email me raeagwe@gmail.com . I would-love to explore this further
Exactly! I am French from the Caribbean living in the UK and I grew up in Paris. The experience and knowledge is very different.
@@khacemlouisditsully9114la gauche française aime tous les noirs.
And one living in metropolitan France but whose family has been French for generations...
I realized a long time ago (before my travels) that racism exists everywhere and that the degree of it varies based on the culture/Nationality of the individual who is Black. I honestly was waiting to hear how living in France is "worse" then living in the US but every example given I've either experienced it personally in the US or someone I know... especially growing up in South Florida back in the day with the influx of Haitians and as we've recently seen how Haitians were disgustingly treated in Texas. I think the pros here out way the cons because my God $240 for a Master's and a doctor coming to your home at 4am will NEVER EVER I mean EVER happen in the US! 😆 And, the ingredients in food is definitely a plus. Great video! 😊
Thanks so much for your reply 🙏🏽😊🙏🏽
$240 for a Masters degree - What kind of sketchy university is this? I have questions! 😂
@@sand-sun-and-rumEvery public university in France, even the best of the best.
The black American experience in France is very different from the black French or black African experience.
You are absolutely correct!
Pourtant c'est faux...nous aimons simplement les noirs avec un minimum d'argent car les français n'aiment pas les pauvres.
@@signefurax933 😂😂😂 La vérité vraie!!
I’m looking forward to being treated better. There’s no where for black Americans to go, not even Africa. I’m glad we have at least a few places where we are treated great due to our identity
@@signefurax933 peut-être que les gouvernants français n'aiment pas les pauvres... le capitalisme à l'œuvre, tout simplement.
As an american black woman, i just came back from visiting london and Paris. I will say that Paris was very beautiful even the local parisians were very welcoming. The architecture of the buildings are amazing to view.
I love them allá, how wonderful that they talk about their things. I am a white women but i love multiculturism
@@nataliaarguello6199oh you love those muscled men he? And multiple at that !
I agree on the fact that having the perspective from a black french person would have elevated the conversation and the context especially a bit more. Being a black french female having who lived in he US for quite some time I could tell a lot of your questioning on the origin question for instanc come from an american perspective. Would love to see more of this with a more diverse panel , that was great content though :)
I agree with you. I plan to do another panel with Black folk raised in the French Caribbean and Black folk raised in Paris. If you'd like to be apart of it, please email me at raeagwe@gmail.com
Spectacular! This was like watching the group scene in Love Jones. I loved everything about this group discussion. Not one dull moment. From the animated, energetic, and fun host who did a great job moderating the conversation to the educated, accomplished circle of friends. It was a beautiful exchange. And thank you for bringing in the Frenchman at the end because after all, you're in France. It was cool hearing him speak and you all understand his French. More please!
This was AMAZING!! You hit so many topics and I learned so much WHILE having a great time.
All that BEAUTY in one room.
Thank you 🙏
I've rarely heard such a meaningful conversation, it was a pleasure to hear you all, thanks for this video.
🔥it is really interesting to see how different poeple live the same thing. Its really nice to listen to all of you guys. 1h video and i didnt feel it. Nice job rae. Cant wait for your next video
Awe! Thanks so much for your sweet message! The panelists are rockstars 😊
Great discussion. Thank you for hosting and thanks to all the participants and commenters. I've been to Paris a couple of times and have become obsessed. Among the many things I love about Paris, I love that there is a huge Black population. It's like NY but with better architecture.
"NY but with better architecture" 😅😂🤣
NY is simply ugly even compare to Prague or Budapest. My favorites city are Venise, Florence, Rome, Paris, Madrid and Barcelona
Thank you so much! Most comprehensive discussion I've seen thus far! It's really helping make a more informed decision!
I'm here to serve! Grateful it resonated with you.
I absolutely loved this discussion. I will be in Paris for the Olympics. I am super excited. This was great.
I lived in Germany for 4 years. And had visited France a number of times. But racism in Europe is different from America. America has a violent history towards black Americans, that lingers to the present! In America, you “could be” physically harmed because you are black. In Europe, in general, the worst that happens is micro-aggressions or awkward weird curiosities!? I can handle that all night & day! I feel safer in Europe. Period. Depending on where I go in America, I need to guarded, aware of my blackness as whites see it.
While I'm a mixed African American, I was treated 85 times better in France in General. It had nothing to do with me being American as most Americans tell the big lie stating that the French are rude. Not a rude sole when I went. My grandmother went too. She's darker skin. Still same treatment. I also had a few African colleagues who lived in France. They too, agree with me.
To further clarify the truth of the matter, we need to differentiate the difference between De Jure (government imposed) and De Facto racism. France doesn't have and never had "de jure" racism. They never had disenfranchisement (i.e. literacy tests at polls). They never had laws like "Jim Crow". In other words, France never directly infringed/oppressed the civil and human rights of their civilians in the form of legislation; however, De Facto discrimination exists more globally, including in France. Unlike the US, however, their De Facto discrimination is not and was never influenced by any past events of De Jure discrimination. It more has to do with individual personality. In the US, most acts of racism came about as slavery was being dissolved an abolished. This is because the slaves were no longer in their government defined place and the fact that it was ultra race based. Also, French colonialism is very irrelevant in this context as I'm primarily discussing mainland France. Victims of colonialism were never allowed to be trafficked into the mainland. Also, France more so owned up to their wrongs and granted most of their colonies their independence. Lastly, victims of French colonialism were not French citizens. In the US, the situation is almost opposite. We have to understand that American racism was not legalized, but mandated. Legal just means, no laws against the act. Mandate means that the act in question is enforced by an individual against his/her will be a person/authority regardless of the legal state of the act. Secondly, laws like Jim Crow were not targeting slaves as slavery had already been abolished. Unlike the French, the US never gave it's freed slaves any self-governing independence. Instead they made them citizens and their descendants citizenship at birth. This was not actually a good idea. This is because Lincoln didn't actually free the slaves. If it was him, there wouldn't have been an underground railroad. In other words, the slaves freed themselves, bankrupting their masters. So, instead of freeing them, they made them citizens, using their newly granted freedom against them (i.e Vagrancy laws). This is how mass imprisonment began. Don't forget the 13th Amendement doesn't protect prisoners from Slavery in the US. It was also done to make leaving the country difficult. All Blacks in Mainland France self migrated there; so, if they didn't like it, all they had to do is head for the exit.
Racist laws in the US and South Africa were unique among other democratized nation with racist laws as they infringed essentials to life, such as freedom of movement, voting,, public accommodation, freedom of assembly (interracial marriages), privacy rights (Loving v. VA), and freedom from bodily harm.
France also lacks racist organizations like the KKK.
It's also good that France doesn't collect racial stats. This is how blacks get stopped for driving while black. All they need to do is run the tag number.
There was never a time in Mainland France where the government imposed racism akin to the US against their own citizens.
Fun fact. During the worst days of Jim Crow. African Americans who were more fortunate enough to leave to country, fled to France to escape racism. I would recommend reading about James Baldwin.
Indeed colonisation is irrelevant here, my take is they have a very Anglo view of things trying to mix their history, but the people in the colonies did get the French citizenship eventually. But the independence movements started not long after. To this day the descendants of those French people can get retroactive French citizenship because of that and people who were born during colonisation were born as French citizens and after the independence could ask to get their French citizenship back.
Stats based on skin colour are allowed in France but not everybody are allowed to take them to avoid manipulation and instrumentalisation like we see in the US. Only the gov institutions and researchers like sociologists who ask for a special authorisation for a specific work.
Can collect such data.
@@puccaland I'm not expecting my comment to be picture perfect, but I think it was close enough.
@@puccaland I'm mostly talking American style. It's polymorphism ya know. One thing can take many forms.
@@gliese909 I didn't talk about you giving a perfect comment. One of your points happened to be wrong I simply brought clarifications.
Awww! I loved this video. I'm only 18 years old, and I'm already thinking of moving out of the states in the future for numerous reasons, and France seems to check (almost) all the boxes. This was super informative, and fun to watch. You all are gorgeous too!
I really love and appreciate this conversation! It was very informative. Will be watching more content.
Great conversation Honey ! Keep up the good work🔥
Thank so much! Appreciate it 🙏🏾 the panelists are awesome.
Amazing conversation! This is expat goals! It's so interesting to hear perspectives on race in different places other than the US. I've heard the same thing from a friend that black people in France are not as united like in the US, but their communities are based more on country of origin or religion. Thank you!
Thank you for such a relatable and deep insight from all of you. Absolutely amazing.....thank you for sharing your incredible stories and it shows that we black people suffer a lot...we go through a lot...more than any other race...it is time to unite ourselves and empower ourselves ....you are all awesome, beautiful, talented, this has inspiring...
Thanks so much Edna for your kind words 🙏🏾💜🙏🏾
Tuition fees are low in public Higher education. the French government subsidizes higher education. The true cost of education is the same as it is elsewhere in the world-around €10,000 a year. The difference is that in France the government assumes a large share of that cost.
I absolutely loved this group !Yes Blk people Rock!!!!
You rock!!!!
OMG! L O V E this video. I have always wanted to stay abroad in France. This was so helpful!
I'm so glad it was helpful to you 🙏🏾
I think to understand the French fascination with Black Americans, one has to look at Josephine Baker, Nina Simone, Richard Wright and a host of Black American Jazz musicians who were welcomed with open arms in France.
Being welcomed with open arms doesn’t mean there’s a fascination with Black Americans lol, if the French were fascinated, it was by their talent, regardless of race.
France already had a black general at the time of the revolution while Americans still had discrimination laws a century later...
@@synkaan2167 You may want to take a look at the French Men's National Basketball team, most of them are a result of liaisons between Black men and White French women. How do you explain that mr know it all?
@@akken2112 Should white French men and women refuse to get into relationships with black people ?
There are more white people than black people in France, so when there’s mixing, inevitably, a significant portion of black children are mixed-race lol.
And you're doing what is called "cherry-picking" (is the French basketball team the only thing you know about French population ? Do you think it's representative ?) because there are obviously plenty of examples of black children born in France who aren't mixed race (even more, in fact), so there's clearly nothing systematic about it lol.
It seems you're confusing not being racist or communitarian with fascination, which is something else entirely.
Yes big up for the WARRIORS woman of America!!
Just watched this from start to finish and it was an eye-opener as in France 101 for black people. I think every American at one time or another has dreamt of going to Paris. Maybe not to live but definitely visit.
BTW, thanks for making the distinction that Paris is not France. Same racism just a different location. Thanks for also sharing the positives of the health care system (doctors making affordable house calls) and a Master's degree on the cheap. But obviously a quality education because your panel sounds (and looks) fantastic. OK, they probably had that when they moved there.
Y'all saved the juicest information for last....dating ....oooh la la 💞
Thanks so much Joy for your generous words. I am also thankful that you watched it all the way thru. I so look forward to our juicy digital live panel 🖤 folk will fall in love with you 🙏🏾
This was very refreshing and wholesome to listen to thank you all for the insight… I intend to relocate in the near future
ABSOLUTELY LOVE LOVE that African Americans and English are sharing the privileges they have benefited from implicit bias. The only way we can ALL educate ourselves on our hidden bias is to acknowledge how we benefit from them. Traveled to Paris in 2010 with my American children and American girl friend and I would ask my American girl friend to navigate difficult situations and they treated her very well. It was very obvious but my American girl friend did not notice it at all and it made me sad. I am from Africa.
Ooooh. This is going to be a good one. I can tell from the jump. But duty calls so I will come back and watch this in FULL & leave my comment then.
I so appreciate you lady! Thanks so much for your comment. I thought of you, when titling the video 🙏🏾
I literally live for this video. I’m a young, black American who is also in France. Glad to see other black Americans appreciating France.
I am so glad you enjoyed the video 😊
This was an excellent talk; great questions and great interactions and info!
Great conversation, different points of view and experiences, loved it. Another panel with black French or white French or African French or métisse Wille be a great way to compare notes and experiences.
“Not only America 🇺🇸 Black America” 🎯
Love all of your expressions and experiences, BRAVO 👏
🙏🏾😊🙏🏾
A black British is vaunted as much as a black American relative to the black French and black Africans.
This is the case wherever you go. The outside black will always be seen as more exotic than the indegenes black in that society
Globally an African Americans “ Americanness” will always elevate him/ her above other blacks and in how they are treated by that society
Go to Asia for instance and see the difference.
Correct again! But to me, this is quite problematic. All humans no matter skin color or nationality should be treated equally.
thanks for this very real perspective..aspirational young African Americans are sometimes unaware of the kinds of privilege they trade with
I really enjoyed the conversation, wish to see more of this
Got it!!! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
In French society, your status doesn't depend on your race, but on what you do. If you are a soccer player, a musician, a nurse, a physician, a cook / chef, a fashion model, a fashion designer, an actor, etc. you are a somebody. If you sweep the streets, you are a nobody, although people will respect you as a human being. :)
Man, I sooo wish I had found you guys in early Spring of 2021. I came as a student right after they went into the 3rd lockdown and was disillusioned by unexpected racism and the reality of curfew (which I hadn't experienced in the US) hit hard. I ended up leaving early, but I sometimes look back and wonder what could of happened if circumstances had been different.
Wow! The pandemic in France was BRUTAL. It had a huge affect on my mental health. We won't even get into racism and the hypocrisy of it all in France
Yeah, it was a mess. We had just bought a house right before lockdowns and had to pretend we were exercising just to move because we couldn't get permission from mairie to go outside during lockdown 😂 we were told that if the police stopped us, we'd still be at fault. I will never forget it.
Hello sweet lady! You will probably never see this post, being that I'm commenting on an old video. Just the same, I would like to say that I've enjoyed your video! I was looking for information on Africans in Brazil when I came across your videos. thank you for sharing your experiences with many of us who never leave America to venture out. Before I go any further, please let me say that you are a beautiful woman! I'm sure you've been told that many times, as well as, you know that you are. Just the same, I would like to say it. Lol. You are a natural in front of the camera, and your smile is contagious. Lol. No, I'm not flirting. Just stating facts! Keep doing what you're doing...I pray that you have a long life and good health. God be with you on your journeys!!! Oh, and I have subscribed to your channel. Your smile is what got me!!!
Awe! Thanks so much for your sweet message and support 🙏🏾
It's not a matter of being black it's a matter of being arrogant, sufficient in your way of thinking, as being as such, you can remain off the boundaries of France indeed. But I didn't know some black people may be so narrow in mind as to think they deserve something or a place over someone else's. I think that's poor and definitely unproductive to think racially just as an offset defense in response to past colonialism or slavery.
I loved this! I wish I could get the perspective of an older/retired African American person living there. Side note - the moderator reminds me so much of Jada Pinkett😃
As a french woman, you made me so sad😭.
I hear more racism and self segregation in your talks that I have ever heard or experienced in all my long life ! Except of course in RN leaders mouthes.
I LOVE asking people where they come from, I love meeting people from everywhere in the world, learning about their culture, their experiences.
Why would it be rude ???
I admire people able to leave their country. They have so much to tell.
All pupils are the equal children of the Republic. All have the same rights and obligations. They come at school to learn, to be teached scientific truthes. Religions must NOT interfere.
Religion is between your soul, your faith and your God, it belongs to the private sphere.
It has made too much harm in the previous centuries when the State and the Church was one. And it still continues in Iran or Afghanistan.
This is why the principle of secularism is sacred in French school and administration. To guarantee equality of treatment and freedom of cult.
The french administration is the same for all.
The fact that we treat differently immigrants from the USA or from Europe than those from Africa proves that it's NOT a matter of skin colour racism.
I suppose it's because most of the illegal immigration comes from Africa, that most of them were poor and uneducated, while americans that come to France are generally motivated by the french culture.
And don't forget we are under a maximum state of terrorism alert.
I'm sorry if the police asked for your ID, but I must admit that most of the authors of terrorists attacks of the last decades in France had either an arab or a black physical type.
It is not true there are no black people on TV. Harry Roselmack, Magloire, Corinne Lemarchand, a lot of journalists like Audrey Pulvar, actors, politicians (Christiane Taubira, former minister)... are famous and popular.
pardon mais tu dis UN PEU de la merde ==> je vote RN et je suis probablement moins raciste que 90% des gauchistes et des gens de maniere generale ==> je suis physcicien (pas totalement debile donc) je sais que trop bien comment est extrait le koltan de ton portable par ex et comment sont fabriqués les textils qui t habillent peut etre de la tete au pied
perso je ne m' habille pas en textil mortifere fabriqués par des momes de 14 ans a 5000km de chez nouset mon portable a 12 ans
ensuite je suis rationnel et cartesien (forcement de par mon taff) , je place la raison bien au dessus des croyances debiles mais etant conscient que tout le monde n'est pas g.perelman et que certains ont besoin d'ami imaginaire je suis pour que chacun puisse pratiquer sa religion mais cela doit se faire dans un cadre STRICTEMENT PRIVE et donc sans aucune revendication ni signe ostentatoire
et non cela ne fait pas de moi un gros facho
pour finir le racisme est de considerer l'autre comme inferrieur , pas de voir des des differences qui parfois trop importantes rend l integration impossible et c'est justement parceque je ne suis pas raciste que je suis contre toute ingerence (meme chez les talibans)
qd pleins de donneurs de lecons veulent imposer leur position partout dans le monde
qui est le plus raciste moi qui vote RN mais ne contribue pas à faire mourrir des gosses a l'autre bout du monde avec du mercure ou du koltan ou des donneurs de lecons mais habillés de la tete au pied avec du textil qui tuent des gamins et un portable flambant rempli de koltan ?
@@morphilou Que j'ai dit de la m..., c'est possible. Je n'ai pas réussi à m'exprimer clairement en anglais.
J'ai trop de respect pour les idéaux et principes humanistes et fraternels de ma chère France pour supporter les diatribes nauséabondes du RN qui nous tirent vers le bas, voire la fange morale. Trop vieille pour changer.
Ce n'est pas votre idée de la France que mon grand-père est allé défendre au Chemin des Dames.
J'ai pondu tout un paragraphe pour défendre le principe républicain de la laïcité, en particulier à l'école. Là-dessus, on est d'accord, non ?
J'en suis à mon 2e téléphone portable depuis que les téléphones portables existent, car le précédent m'a lâchée, tout simplement. Avant, c'était un "be-bop", c'est dire !
Je n'achète jamais de fringues ou chaussures tant qu'il n'y a pas de trou d'usure, du moment que j'ai 3 tenues pour faire ma semaine entre 2 lessives.
Je boycotte Shein et Temu, ne porte que des fibres naturelles, n'ai pour produit de beauté que mon dentifrice, mon gel douche et mon déo, et je fais mes courses à la supérette la plus proche.
Franchement, à part élever des moutons pour m'en tricoter mes vêtements, je ne vois pas comment je pourrais être plus éloignée de la fast fashion et des travers consuméristes dont tu m'affubles gratuitement.🤷🏻♀️
@@morphilou Elle n'a pas parlé de tous les électeurs mais du discours de certains "leaders" du RN, donc c'est p-e toi qui dis UN PEU de la merde...
Et visiblement en tant qu'électeur tu n'as pas remarqué sans parler de l'histoire de ce partie fondé par des SS et collabo (histoire que Marine Le Pen considère toujours "épique et glorieuse") qu'une partie de leurs candidats étaient ouvertement racistes ou fascistes (certains ont par exemple été photographié/filmé en train de faire le salut nazi ou de porter une casquette nazi je vois pas ce qu'il vous faut de plus clair à ce stade) et dans l'entourage de Marine Le Pen on retrouve aussi des membres du GUD et il y a aussi eu de nombreux attentats ou tentatives d'attentats dans lesquels des membres et candidat de ce parti ont été impliqué ou ont clairement participé (l'attentat à la mosquée de Bayonne en 2019 c'était par un ancien candidat par exemple)
Bref c’est pas le lieux mais je pourrais faire un post d'une page rien que sur les éléments racistes ou antisémites de ce parti, sur ces liens avec le terrorisme etc.
@@synkaan2167 je me suis arreter la ==> parler de l'histoire de ce partie fondé par des SS et collabo
auj la lfi et certain des es membre sont 100 fois plus dangereux
et visiblement tu n as rien lu de ce que j'ai ecris
je ne perd plus mon temps avec les QI a la delogu
@@synkaan2167 tu veux qu on parle d un deputé qui a a tabassé a un gamin de 15 ans a 3 vs 1 et fiché s ? !
pour le reste je ne vais pas perde mon temps a tout demonter je sais que cela ne servira a rien
Love this video! Tell the gentleman in the purple I said Hey! 😀
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Very informative, intriguing and entertaining all at the same time…
Thanks so much! I'm so glad you enjoyed it
Hello, I'm French. There are things to improve in France and difficulties as in all countries.
As one of your participants said, the history of France is different from that of the United States or other countries. Each country's culture is different, which can lead to misunderstandings. In France, in 1905, a law on secularism was created to guarantee equality and to ensure that there was no discrimination between religions. There was a separation between the Church and the State. The state guarantees freedom of worship for every citizen. Public schools become secular (but not private schools). Everyone can practise his religion as he sees fit in the private sphere. Many people of foreign origin are not aware of this law, which creates misinterpretation. It was a very good law back then. Currently, under the Act "The wearing of manifestly religious signs and clothing is prohibited in public schools (but not in private schools). The law affirms the principle of secularism, which is inseparable from the principle of equality and respect for others, by consolidating the school of the Republic. , which bears the values of the Republic, including the equality of all human beings and equality between men and women. This principle is a corollary to the fight against all forms of discrimination within the School, prohibiting speech and behaviour aimed at reducing others to religions or religious behaviour. ethnicity. »
However, darker distinctive signs such as Fatma's hand, little cross, etc. are permitted.
In university, since students are older, there is no ban.
I do not question what has been said at all and only the person in question can judge. Personally, when I meet a foreign person regardless of their country and skin colour, I ask them where they come from because I care about them. It is not discrimination or racism at all.
There is a black minister in the government and there were others in previous governments. There are also more and more black journalists on French television, I hope it continues.
let's not forget that the wearing of obvious "religious symbols" was only a symptom... the people who were, say, expressing their faith by the attire they were wearing, often expressed quite strongly their religious views on certain subjects in school (History, biology and civics mainly). Of course, the opponents to the law only talked about the attire, not what the youngsters were "preaching" in school...
we did not extricate ourselves from the Church clutches during the bloodbath that was the 1st revolution, to now having to submit to sharia...
Stats based on skin colour are allowed in France but not everybody are allowed to take them to avoid manipulation and instrumentalisation like we see in the US. Only the gov institutions and researchers like sociologists who ask for a special authorisation for a specific work can collect such data.
Métisse, for the French is a proof that integration is working. Mutilculturalisn applauded.
Really interesting discussion! Merci pour les pensees!! I love this format, it feels like we (as viewers) are part of the circle. I grew up in London as a high school student (I’m white, female, American) and studied French and art history at ParisIV, EcoIe du Louvre, think that London is the most diverse city in the western world. I never saw racism there like in the USA. London’s not perfect but maybe just such a melting pot of nationalities. I realize I have no idea what it’s like being Black, but I grew up most of life in other countries and never really felt completely American either. “Paris is not France.” Love ❤️ that. I also speak French like a Parisian (by education) but not fluently. Thanks for sharing your perspectives - best to you!! 🎉😊
good discussion. But as a French métis your vision about mixed is very funny for me. For you a mixed is a black but for us is neither black or white but both so a mix. So yes I could be offended if someone say I'm back because I never see me like that and I'm proud of both my white and black part
And you're not black. Black people in the states are pretty ignorant. White people in the states DO treat biracial different. So when black people tell them they are black and will be treated black - its not true
I see how my biracial daughter is treated. She is not a black woman. She is both. She loves it. But it's ignorant foe black women to say a white woman can recreate her.
@@LisaSoulLevelHealingso interesting, thank you...
our discussions have tended to binaries, identities are complicated..in the USA, historically, was so much mixing, sometimes involuntary..including Native Americans, seems not in the discussion at all anymore..maybe we are trying to forget?
I never had the opportunity to go to the states or to anywhere else . Nevertheless I learn English on YT and globally love my outside world . Greetings from France . ☀️☀️
So for me the best way to understand a culture is to dive into the related language .
Lmao i laughed so hard at america as influenced the world more than any other country. Really ? Ever heard of england ? Of france ? Of china ? so i don t think ys french hate americans, but if it s a bit true, this very attitude is one of the reasons why. Also, as a black french person i have been disrespected by afroamericans because y'know they are better than an african in their minds (not all of them, but it happens) i m glad y'all like it here, and it s heart warming to see you appreciate our place. Enjoy your stay !
yeah, i caught that too..glad you called it
Vraiment très intéressant !
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New subscriber here! This video is soooo interesting! I'm French from Italian origins (Sicily exactly) and I grew up in a town in the South of France. I had many Moroccan and Tunisian friends growing up and I remember very vividly the day I understood what White privilege was. My family spoke Italian at home and most of my family members couldn't read or stopped school at 13-14 so I was under the impression that my life experience at school was the same as my Moroccan and Tunisian friends who came from immigrant families as well. I felt close to them since I didn't feel 100% French myself either even if I was born in France. When I was 18, I was in the French equivalent of Senior Year (= Terminale) and we were applying for Summer jobs my friends and I. I got one quite easily and they didn't. I didn't understand why at first and then they told me that they were having troubles finding apartments for college too because of their names that sounded too Arabic. I had never realized that this type of racism or discrimination was a thing in France and on that day I realized that even if I was burdened by immigration and illiteracy in my family like them, I had a privilege that they didn't: I was white and my name was European. So, I really get what you're trying to say about racism being more "under the rug" in France. Concerning "Laïcité" ( = securalism or universalism), the concept is very French and quite weird to understand if you're not French I guess but originally, the intent was not a racist one but these past 20 years "laïcité" has been used by far right people as a tool to impose racist and conservative views.
Wow! Thanks so much for your story ... powerful 🙏🏾
I find this an interesting and valuable perspective, thank you.
des termes comme laïcité , racisme etc.... sont totalement galvaudés à notre époque . Ils ont totalement changé de définition et sont mal utilisés .....
Laïcité : you guys need to read more on that topic. We are passionate about it.
Thank you!
This is a quite interesting and informative stuff, but I stand to be contradicted, as I am of the opinion that it would have been much broadened had you guys invited Black French, be it from French West Indies (les Antilles) or les DOM-TOM and African backgrounds, to give you their perspectives, enlighten the conversation
I am of Angolan origin, grew up in Pau (les Pyrénées Atlantiques) then moved to Marseille, and finally Aix-en-Provence (PACA), before leaving France for UK in 1995 where I have been to date
You are the second person to write this. I actually reached out to such person and invited them to do a panel in the near future. Would this be something you would be interested in participating in? Also, Steve at the end is Black Parisian
I agree..the African American energy here is inspiring influential and wonderful, yet limited..Rae aims this to young people who might aspire to live in Paris, and this is great result. If it's possible to open up the age , maybe even class range and as you write, original backgrounds.
i don't know that it's possible to do effectively though, and I applaud her efforts.
There are some interesting things coming from African American expats in Ghana ad Uganda, and it seems difficult to open the lens for meaningfully multiple perspectives..
Meanwhile, I do so enjoy this group's verve and spirit, and Rae's amazing hosting.😊
ONE LOVE to America.... My Mentor was from there; Malcom X
Malcolm is in my top 3...
@@raeagwe Him and Bob Marley are the INDISPUTABLE greatest in mother AFRICA history !!
@@augustomundombe829 Wow! Bob Marley is in my top 3 but as an artivist. He used his music to portray the social injustices of the world, just like Nina Simone
@@raeagwe You and me got a lots in common... ONE LOVE
@@raeagwe You are right on points; with facts and reality back you up.... Yes indeed; Bob Marley he is the only musical artist that African people and in general in our world; that people see him has the champion of social justice ... In mother Africa we see him with all the greatest leaders of PAN AFRICAN.
Kind of lends some perspective, I think. I keep thinking about how musicians, especially during the jazz age, got their heads spun by living or just performing in France. At home, they were seen as no more than entertainers, in France they were seen as artists. Miles Davis' sojourn in France and his depression coming back was one of the best examples. The cynic in me assumed that the reason the French were so much more comfortable with Blacks from anywhere was that the majority of their racism was directed against Arabs. And yet things are much more complex under the surface I guess. Not always bad, but complicated.
It's power and classism. We come to bring culture (which they hold to a high standard), and not compete for Jon's (which translates for money and power).
It's no surprise we are treated a certain way.
@@LisaSoulLevelHealing I'm not saying that the love wasn't real. Every now and then there's a pheromonal attraction between peoples and cultures that may often be very different. For decades if not centuries, Americans took Black culture for granted as something amusing but never sublime, while the French saw a good thing and held onto it. And the love was repaid. Josephine Baker's work in the Resistance, for example.
good point, perspective..wish I knew the story of great tenor David Murray decision to live and work in Paris
Thanks you this conversation. I’m learning French and I’m moving us out of the U.S. France is on the list. I’m also an artist and DJ so it’s good to hear that your perspectives on what it takes to create and thrive. Merci!
Oh wow! Kudos to you 💫👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💫
Wow!!!! Kudos to you 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
That’s true about the money I took double my goal and still ran out of money.
I totally believe you. France is a very expensive country, especially Paris. Best of luck to you 🙏🏾
Excellent discussion
Thanks so much!
I'm just coming for a 7day vacation with my adult daughter. I'm concerned about the safety of Black American females. Any DOs and DON'Ts we should be aware of? Thanks in advance!
Safety should be considered as in any big city. Try to fit in, keep your wallets and phones close to your chest amd don't be out too late at night. Check out my video on safety when traveling while Black, especially as a woman th-cam.com/video/0ODjfla4_iE/w-d-xo.html
@@raeagwe You're right!! Just wanted to know bc NYC safety may be different than Paris safety. Thank you!
Not exactly - safety is safety everywhere in the world, especially for Black women. What works in NYC, works in Paris, Rio, etc. 🙏🏾
@@raeagwe OK, I guess my 61yo self is a little nervous that's all. Thanks again! Watching your videos are very helpful!
@@lynnkelly6989 don't be nervous 🙏🏾 I believe in you. You raised a daughter in this world, so you've nothing to be nervous about! Let me know if you've any other questions. Feel free to email me - raeagwe@gmail.com
I don't know what you talk about. French people don't hate american people. Some have indeed a problem with the domination of USA regarding culture and politics in the world, but there is no hatred at all against the american folk.
I really enjoyed the conversation. I lived in 5 different European countries and I don't find them any different than White Americans. I decided that I'm better off here in the USA.n,I glad I had the European experience. It taught me a lot about the European mentality. If you're going into live amongst them, you must understand them. Lately I've been traveling to Latin America and I love the vibe. No desire to ever visit Europe again.
Wow! Powerful! I hated America until I started traveling the world and realized I was quite blessed to be American
@@raeagwe Yes, I know exactly what you mean. You will not find more accomplished Black folks than African Americans. I see African Americans flocking to Portugal, but when reality kicks in and the honeymoon is over, they'll be back. They think because there are a lot of Black people there, that the Portuguese are not racist. They are the most racist of all of the colonizers. African slaves have been it Portugal since 1444, yet they have no political nor economic power. If you are Black in Europe, there is a glass ceiling, no matter how talented you are . God bless you wherever you are. 🙏
@@teddydavis2339 you are absolutely correct! I was quite disillusioned when I moved to Paris. I had no idea that I was in for a rude awakening 😅
There is lways a confusion beetween illegal migration and racism. The first is a politic question. Racism i really don't know. France is a millenary civilization made by wars into Europe. African began to come massively in France after their independance.
@@fabs8498 I don't believe anyone with common sense would confuse the 2. Was it legal migration when Europeans stole land and invaded every single continent? Did they get permission from the indigenous people to be there? I think you know the answer. Hypocrisy at its best.
So interesting!
Yup 😊
Of course there’s classism in America. There’s classism within the black community, the Jack and Jill clubs, certain HBCUa, families who vacationed in Oak Bluff, live in certain section of town, etc.
The colorism come from USA.. and I disagree about what the french guy has said, We black people from France has grown up with African music (mostly ) , movie from Africa, Afro Carabean stuff etc... And black American stuff as well , but saying that the only image we had was only from USA ain't true at all.... But it was interesting 🔥 hotep 🙏🏾
Thanks so much for your input 🙏🏾😊🙏🏾 eventually I'll start live streams. Feel free to come on up and share your thoughts.
Colorism didn’t come from America. It permeates every group of colonized people.
You are absolutely correct 🙏🏾
Colorism comes from America?? 🤨 Colorism is everywhere: India and other parts of Asia, Spain, many parts of Europe, and many countries in Africa. I’m sure we weren’t the ones who introduced colorism.
@@girlanonymous True indeed.
Last point - if you have a Black child and you are not French and you have the option of them being formed positively at a critical age without solely relying on their time at home, please get them out as fast as possible. You are completely nuts if you expect to get any strong Black identity and self-esteem reinforcements from their experiences in most of France. Take to heart what the British-Nigerian gentleman in white on the left express about the visuals of Black people and their positions/roles in daily life. Janitors, service workers - nothing against those folks and their livelihood but that cannot be the sole masses of Black people your child sees on the daily. Not only are the optics bad for self-esteem but it is beyond optics...that is what the French expects in this day and age. We are not even talking to the level of role models. We are just talking about the facts of where opportunities exist. Black Americans must realize that most of the well-known Black folks the French have been in love with are largely foreigners. They love many of our strong top business and influential political leaders yet those would never be produced en France! Ever. They do not create the environment that allows a nice chocolate cake to be made yet they love themselves a nice, tasty chocolate cake...you get me?
Would you rather live in Canada or Paris? Also what were the public universities she mentioned?
I prefer NYC, as I was born and raised there 🙏🏾
@@raeagwe Okay sure haha, let me rephrase.. should I move to Canada or Paris? Haha..
I'm from Mumbai and about to start a new life.
Been accepted to American business school of Paris but perhaps o should rather go to a public uni?
Ah yes! Mumbai, fantastic! Canada is sensational! I lived in Paris for 5 years and I have a love/hate relationship with it. So, I am probably not the best person to ask.
@@raeagwe Oh it's cool, thank you 👏
Move to Canada !! Thank me later !! I grew up in France fyi
When I was young ( In 80s in France ), I was in a banlieue school and was living in a banlieue appartement (citée HLM). I was not in Paris, but in middle of France.
My friends at school was for most of them Arabs and Muslim. There was not a lot Blacks families, so very few Blacks childs in school.
That why the French guy says there was no blacks at the TV. After the WW2 France brought Arabs to rebuild the country and they stayed. But Blacks people come very after all that.
There were blacks during the war but very few stayed, either died or returned home. Because France is not just the French territory. I believe it is 3 times larger than France itself.
Thanks so much for your story!
Fabulous :)
Thanks much!
En fait c'est simple..."Du droit à la différence , certains seraient inspiré de réclamer celui à l'indifférence " Ce qui apaise et simplifie les rapports...Les lois Françaises ,n'ont pas vocation à encourager les communautarismes...😊
Bonjour, that was interesting although there's a couple of cultural differences, or foundations of the french society, that did not get enough or any attention.
- so if "Universalism" was mentioned, and frown upon, Laicité (constitutional principle of secularism) was not and that's a bit of a problem an would have explained some reactions concerning french schools, so no it was not all about the age of the students. And if look into it, keep in mind that in practice Laicité is not absolute and strict by nature, it's supposed to be flexible enough to adapt to the state of society. And surprisingly Laicité is something that americans can sometimes find hard to understand which is also interesting.
- Another hot topic that was not mentioned is communitarianism, again as opposed to universalism.
- Racial (and police) problems in France are very real and most unfortunately not dealt with with enough force, and i don't see that getting better anytime soon, social medias or not.
Also don't be fooled by individual representation of a group at higher levels of the society, there's been a few members of the government that were from ethnic backgrounds in the past decade, and as i was inferring to, i can remember a Trump supporter answering a journalist during the campaign, saying "Obama was great, he made everything racial overnight" and i don't know if the Obama administration has been looked at by the various us communities yet but i have a feeling the end result wasn't as expected, not saying it was his fault of course.
- Finally any ideal (liberté égalité fraternité, we usually add laicité as well) is a goal to reach, not something already achieved and left unattended, including democracy for that matter.
Nice group of stories
The comment regarding the quality of food🥖 is a draw for me!
Yes lovely!!! So important 😊 😊😊
French attitudes towards black people stem from a very divergent colonial and slavery history compared to the UK. In XVIIIth century French colonies, free people of color were not rare at all, but were divided based on their skin tone and proportion of white blood, with different rights and social opportunities. Slaves could be freed or buy themselves relatively frequently, and white people were strongly pressured to adopt and educate their mixed-race offspring.
French racism however results more from the prejudices against African natives that justified the XIXth century French colonization of Africa and the influx of cheap workers from these area post WWII - it's as much classism as it is racism, in the lines of "they're poor, uneducated, therefore stupid". Since there is always more crime among poor, segregated neighborhood, where many black people live, and since black people are way more religious than average while France considers that public expression of religion is a threat to peace, liberty and security since the XVIth century Wars of religion, black people are also seen as a potential threat.
Powerful! Thanks so much for the history lesson 🙏🏾
France is great 4 bras, shh! Sistahs still mean and won't say, 'Bonjour' back. Mad cooperation from everyone else, hate to admit. Didn't feel racism at all. Ww don't clinch their purses at all. Friendly. Safer, better than Colombia/DR/PR.
surement que les americains noirs sentent moins de racisme par rapport aux personnes venant. d afrique parce que les français vont présumer qu ils ont plus ou moins la même culture .si vous parler par exemple du droit des gays dans la communauté africaine vous verrez que ça vaut largement le racisme.
oui, c'est vrai. j'espère qu'un jour vous rejoindrez le panel.
je pense que cette réaction raciste est quelque chose à surmonter, pas à investir
Pour la région Parisienne, il ne faut pas oublier la menace terrorisme que notre pays a du subir,ou encore la menace des actes antisocial ! La police dois systématiquement, pour faire sont travail imaginé en permanence le pire de la société pour la protéger !
Do Black people really not know how the French and Parisians genuinely feel about them? Sad.
What’s your opinion on this ?
Et que pensons-nous ?
Ça m'intéresserait de savoir ce que je suis censée penser 🤔
This story of metis is just a consequence of the "one drop rule" wich never existed in Europe. That is truly the result of a different history.
Interesting!!!
@@raeagweyes read about it
what part of paris are black expats living?
Everywhere but mostly in the suburbs
1:19:00 onwards feels like a shit Americans say moment until they get self-aware. Not every society had the one drop rule.
Are you American?
Denial? That's not in France that 50% of the homeless are Black nationals, Black people in France aren't regularly killed, victims of police brutality, social and judiciary injustice, constantly at the bottom of the social ladder despite having built America, disproportionately represented in jail, treated as a simple quota in entertainment productions. To be fair that's the same for everyone for the latter.
Like others said that would have been useful to get the perspective from actual French people and the perspective isn't the same depending on the background (born and bred vs immigrants, slaves descendants vs immigrants descendants) plus the other Black people who actually speak French as their mother tongue. And people aren't just French in France. They are whatever they tell you they are and they don't necessarily reduce themselves to a skin colour or where a late late grandfather was born. Some are only French, some have multiple backgrounds and cultures.
Which group of women are the less respected in the world?😮
They assume that you are métisse if you are with a light skin because in Europe and specifically in France there are so many métisses. You are upset at things in assuming some stereotypes just because you know so little about the country where you live.
It's because African Americans have mostly all been mixed with European Americans. Black people in Africa don't look like American black people.
Actually, that's incorrect. If you were to put pure Africans and Black Americans in a room together, and they all dressed similarly, you'd never know who is who. I've been to many parts of Africa and pass for African. This is exactly why some French people treat me poorly, as they think I'm African. It infuriates me 🤦🏾
@@raeagwe I mean, I've lived in USA and England and France and I can definitely tell, ok this person is from Africa, and this one is either mix or from USA. Especially from face physical features. The ones in Africa have a hint of arabic/North African
@@_marcobaez I would recommend that you do a little more research. Dive into communities that are predominantly black with an open mind and an open heart. You'll learn that there are differences in mentality. But when it comea to physical attributes - very similar. My father looks very African whilst born and raised in Kingaton, Jamaica
@@raeagwe ah yeah I know what you mean, I guess I pay attention to the slightest detail like a detective, so I don't mean to generalize but yes a lot of people don't even think before speaking thinking it's ok. I find French people are open if you tell them you don't find something cool and will quickly apologize, even feeling terrible
I wish I knew those French people. Paris is my base for over 5 years and the French energy is quite "unique" 🙏🏽
En tant que métisse française de père noir et de mère blanche, tous deux Français, il est dommage que vous n’ayez pas invité un Noir français. Vous auriez certainement eu un autre point de vue intéressant, un autre éclairage et cela aurait pu approfondir davantage l’analyse que vous avez faite et l’orienter dans d’autres directions.
Je voulais aussi juste rebondir sur l’interdiction du port du voile à l’école ( je suis professeur de lycée). Il ne s’agit pas d’ôter la liberté à qui que ce soit mais la France est un pays laïc ou beaucoup de gens sont athées et l’école est laïque depuis 1889. Les signes extérieurs de religion sont interdits à juste titre! Il y a une loi pour tous encadrant, en application du principe de laïcité, le port de signes ou de tenues manifestant une appartenance religieuse dans les écoles, collèges et lycées publics. Je suis catholique et je retire la croix que je porte autour du cou quand je vais au lycée ou je la cache sous mes vêtements.
Par ailleurs nous avons un système de santé que beaucoup nous envient et nous sommes très bien soignés et pris en charge ( nous recevons à partir d’un certain âge des invitations pour passer des examens de dépistage entièrement gratuits ( dépistage pour certains cancers par exemple ) mais hélas certains Français n’en ont pas conscience! C’est la même chose pour l’école qui est gratuite pour tous et le coût de l’inscription à l’université qui est faible par rapport à celui des Etats-Unis.
Quant au racisme, en France il fait moins peur et est moins prononcé qu’aux États-Unis. Dans la fonction publique, où la loi qui interdit la discrimination à l’embauche est appliquée, on peut trouver des femmes noires qui occupent des postes élevés. Nous avons des femmes politiques noires telle que Christiane Taubira, une députée européenne noire qui a fait voter le projet du mariage homosexuel ou une autre , secrétaire d’état sous Sarkozy etc. D’ailleurs c’est dans la fonction publique qu’on trouve le plus de Noirs bien qu’aujourd’hui ils tendent de plus en plus vers le privé, mais à l’époque, au début des années 60, c’était pour eux plus facile de trouver un emploi dans le public. Sans vouloir offenser personne je pense qu’il est plus facile pour un Noir de vivre en France qu’aux Etats-Unis. Les crimes racistes des policiers c’est aux Etats-Unis qu’ils sont le plus nombreux. Ici ils restent rarissimes. Certes en tant que métisse je ne rencontre pas de problème de racisme ( ou alors je ne m’en rends pas compte). Mes parents n’ont pas beaucoup dû affronter ce problème non plus.
Le racisme existe de toute façon dans tous les pays du monde mais se manifeste différemment selon histoire du pays.
Bonne journée à tous
You should watch , at the right side of your screen LEAVING THE US FOR MY KIDS,A BETTER LIFE IN FRANCE-- not everybody are negative enjoy
Everyone has a different experience in life. Still, I'd speak to the same family and see what they say after 5 years of living in France (especially if Black and poor/middle class)
@@raeagwe Sure you have poor peoples in France, blacks ,whites , yellows like every countries in the world ,but at least the poorest of the poor's still have access to free health care .
The chance for a French black to live longer is much bigger than a black Americans ,you should know better ,i think we should stop going back and forte you and i we are not doing a contest
I wish you and your people a good life in France
I’ve been visiting France since 1978 and as a young white American I would get these lectures about how France could never be racist like the US. Now I’m in my 60’s and these same people do nothing but complain about Arab and African immigration to France and they have all left or are leaving metro Paris for “safer” parts of France and that includes some of their adult children who don’t want their kids going to school in metro Paris.
I could see French people wanting to impress black Americans to show them they are not like racist Americans and then at the same time hating black french people and black immigrants. I’ve seen these same attitudes in places like Guangzhou China, who were all good and then started blaming the African immigrants once something happened, which in that case was blaming them for Covid.
The truths is paradise do not exist, where ever you go you have to makes some choices ,after all those years living in France you still are no happy well i think it is times to move back in the US and enjoy your future ,lots of peoples will jump to take your place in France--
@francocanuck actually, it's best that you tell yourself what you should do in your life versus mine. Yes? Yes! Bless!
true some ppl are just ungrateful
i didn't have the patience to listen to all y'all's talk, but the id story at 55:00 was pretty weak. i'm not saying that racism doesn't exist, but most of it is in your imagination. take a chill pill
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"America has influenced the world more than any other country", he says in ENGLISH! Has he any idea why America and much of the world speaks English? Or why there is no more slavery despite the fact that it was normal all over the world for tens of thousands of years?
French guy here : American obsession with 'race' . I live in a large city (Paris) and I hardly pay attention to other people's skin colour.
Yes! Exactly what a French guy would say 🙏🏾 walk 30 seconds in my shoes during my 5 years living in Paris and then we can talk. Until then, keep your comments coming from the "French guy" perspective. I would advise you watch the entire video and try to listen with an open mind and heart, without being defensive
@@raeagwe what seems to upset you is the idea that apart from a few bigots, no one here really cares about which 'race' you are. Especially in Paris. What matters is how you behave (it's more of a social class thing than a racial one) and how you integrate into French society which as you know is not community-based.
@@francoisleyrat8659 Like - integrate into society by taking off my hijab in order to take my visa picture? To me, this is very racist. Moreover, it is quite tricky when a non-Black person tries to explain away racism from their non-Black perspective. I would advise again to watch the entire video ... also, read up on French history and its colonization of other countries. And, if you are Black, then I really do not know what to say.
@@francoisleyrat8659 tu dis des conneries . Evidemment votre hypocrisie est légendaire.
@@thefrenchfieldnigga8078 ah, bien sûr le " politiquement correct" et le " wokisme" à l'anglo-saxonne, c'est mieux!
I don't have an issue with americans... I have an issue with american politicians and to some extent the americans that elected them.
It's hard to be respectful of millions that did vote for Trump. I don't think americans understand how much impact they have on the rest of the world when they go to vote (or not which is worse).
Electing Trump completely annihilated many international cooperation projects that mattered. It's also concerning to see an individual like Trump given access to nuclear weapons.
What am I suppose to think when I see americans elected Marjorie Taylor Green ? Am I suppose to assume that the people that elected her are good people ? Am I mistaken to think that in electing Trump the american voted also for his views ? And if you didn't vote, well you choose to let someone else decide for you...
I'm just saying, I'm french but I know quite well american politics and it's most definitely what made me lose a lot of respect for the american themselves. They let it happen.
And surprisingly, I have the feeling Trump despite being a felon has good chances to be elected again. We see the good in american culture but we also see the bad coming to France and some of these cultural elements are completely opposed to french culture.
It's not the point of the video but I just wanted to explain a bit how I perceive america and in my opinion how many other french people do. We don't have really an issue with american themselves but more on their politics. Also, politically, the "left" in the US is pretty much the far-right in France. It's a completely different spectrum. So I would even argue that a "moderate republican' in the US could be seen as a far-right here. Dare say you are a socialist in the US, it won't go well. So americans are amazed at our social system when they live in France, but cannot fathom the idea of politics pushing for social reform. This 7 euros bill at the pharmacy is the result of years of social struggle.
In any case, this video was very interesting for the very french and white privileged man that I'm. The thing that struck me the most was when Daniel said that he noticed people respecting him more when he used his voice. I think that's a great way to illustrate racism to someone that didn't experience it first hand. Obviously, it's sad that this is still way too common in Europe and in France of course.
Anyway, I hope you all enjoy your stay in France and wish you a lot of success and friendship here !
This is wonderful Black people should normalise meeting in unity like this and protecting each other its really important
You guys talk like colonists. Are you aware of that ?
they dont. its cry me a river with them all the time
Black, white, yellow or whatever we are all going to get grey hair at some point. And me I'm a redhead so don't talk to me about being in the minority lol. People in Africa are still killing redheads and albinos to sell their organs for "sorcery" purposes...
One more thing : if you one of your child is born Albinos, don't torture this child by forcing him/her to live by sunlight. Redheads are more adapted to living in low irradiance, and albinos are not adapted to living in the day light at all. Let them live by night, where they can be the happiest...
Oh wow! I will do some research on albinos and redheads being killed by people in Africa 🙏🏾
Haven't watched everything. I like Nigerian much more than Americans (for one Nigerians are better at football ^^). But... i don't think most people here understand where they live. A lot of this is pushing one's values upon others. Now, that is perfectly fine, but for those influenced by american crap, forget about coming to France. You wouldn't be popular here, and would start spouting crap about France being racist when 80% of the problem would be you being obnoxious and getting what you deserve. There is some racism in France, and from my experience, it is tied to a reality that is less about races and more about nationalism. Here is a little something:
I wouldn't advise going to France to any person who considers that quotas by skin colors are necessary, for example. Racial statistics are forbidden since forever in France. 5 out of the 18 french regions are not in Europe and comprise places where people are never born white. Making a difference in citizenship between them and metropolitan France is unthinkable. There are reasons why the concept of races doesn't exist in France. Positive discrimination is discrimination. Making laws to force people in some places is not equality. I don't understand the american quotas by skin color, since they are inherently racists to me. From the french perspective, what some foreigners (mostly from english speaking countries actually, because it seems they all follow the same USA anti-model for an unknown reason) call racism is actually laws against racism. And what such people call anti-racism is racism to the french. Americans have, for example, spout countless racists comments against the french football team when they won the world cup in 2018. The players got angry. Americans went, spout more racist comments, and told them that this was their own fault because the poor sods didn't understand what racism was. And anger against the USA never really faded in France.
Thanks so much for your comment. Such interesting points 🙏🏾
The AMERICAN host MAKE A MISTAKE putting the word RACISM toward French who say "OH, YOU ARE AMERICAN !....bla bla. welcome etc....." NO, it,s not racism, IT,S NOT...you are BLACK WOMAN ..REMEMBER !!! If we were racist, whatever you are AMERICAN or not, we will hate you because you are black.. SO, WE DON,T , yes, to be black English or Black AMERICAN is a privilege because you are DE FACTO more educated and we appreciate this. I,am FRENCH and I lived in US 15years, American do not love French really, I read some comment on line and it was like the KKK toward FRENCH. Just my $.002
Thanks much for your comment.
Firstly, to gain some clarity, as the American host of the panel, I shared my experiences of racism, as being perceived first as African. Once I felt the discrimination and began to speak in English, their attitude changed. It still does not negate the racism towards me as I was first thought to be African. Remember, my skin color shows up first, before anyone ever hears me speak. And as my French is "minimal", I often am assumed to be African and sadly the racism ensues.
Secondly, for you to actually write that being Black English or Black American is a privilege because you feel that we are more educated therefore you appreciate us more IS RACIST! It shows your ignorance. The fact that you refuse to open your ears and your heart and LISTEN to what was said speaks volumes.
Lastly, you then of course flip the script and make it all about you. Why?! So please, as a French person, do better. For people like you prove my point and make the French look bad. I would advise that you watch the entire video again. You may just learn something. Blessings!!!
Oh and, please do keep your comments coming 🙏🏾😊🙏🏾
@@raeagwe OK, we go to play !!!!.. i believe you are ignorant about black African immigrant in FRANCE. They saying mostly NEVER feel the racism here in FRANCE.. you can find a lot in youtube. PERIOD... Also, of course, you don't, imagine how the "racism' fade totally when you have a super sexy hot african beauty on the street.. ask to her if she feel racism in France😁😁😁😀😂😂😂... A sort of racism can be easily feel in France but it,s not a racism in fact but a feeling to be invaded. And what ever the other race..FRANCE is 1 of the oldest country in europe, since 2000,3000 years ago, we live here ( but this is another story)... I was in the lycee marcel Roby in St Germain en Laye, one my friend was THE ONLY BLACK STUDENT (from DOM TOM) among the other 3200 student. He never felt any racism in this hight school... imagine this in USA in the end of the 70s!!!!!.... remember FRANCE HAVE BLACK REGIONS overseas called the DOM-TOM . no one French politician from far left to the FAR RIGHT Zemmour want them out of France. As an American yourself, French are polite but not excessively like in USA ( I KNOW THIS) and you can feel yourself as sort of racism feeling when it,s not.. we Don, t smile stupidly all time as American do ! 😁
@@cgleisberg3355 if anyone is ignorant ... it is you. I would advise you to re-watch the entire discussion. I would also invite you to not use your 1 Black associate as an answer to a very complex issue.. Lastly, I would recommend that you not speak on issues from the African/Black perspective, as a White French male. Instead listen - you may just learn something versus being defensive about a point you have and will never experience - simply due to the color of your skin.
Well said ,i agree with you i live about 20 km from the US border Niagara falls new York ,and i can feel the same animosity against us French's i do have an accent, no color skins but the result is the same ,if those peoples are so critical of the French's or France they should move out and enjoy their beautiful life in the US ,have a nice day
Ce gens sont dans l'ensemble détestables! quelle arrogance!