Marvel Ultimate Alliance Tier List 2019 (PS4)

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    Ultimate Alliance has given me hours of enjoyable gameplay over the course of a decade. I feel that I’ve spent enough time playing it to make this tier list reliable and well-founded. I’m just sorry this video took so long to make.
    Hope you enjoy and let me know if you have any criticism of the tier list in the comments.
    Lumo’s Ultimate Alliance Tier List:
    S-tier:
    Deadpool, Wolverine.
    A-tier:
    Sabretooth, Silver Surfer, Magneto, Dr. Strange, Hulk, Hawkeye, Nightcrawler, Elektra, Captain America, Iron Man, Spider-Man, Ice Man and Mr. Fantastic.
    B-tier:
    Moon Knight, Ghost Rider, Daredevil, Luke Cage, Storm, Invisible Woman, the Human Torch, Colossus, Thor, Black Panther, Cyclops, the Thing, Venom and Nick Fury.
    C-tier:
    Ms. Marvel, Dr. Doom, Blade and Spider-Woman.
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  • @LUMOSHROOM
    @LUMOSHROOM  5 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    This comment section is turning into a collection of glitches and exploits LET'S KEEP IT UP!!!

    • @MrNightmare-tj7fx
      @MrNightmare-tj7fx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hey is there still a way to get this game on my ps4? I'm having no luck finding it.

    • @metalvenger2
      @metalvenger2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sorry but hulk is s tier have you ever used his boost ability where he gets bigger and has a much higher attack speed

    • @metalvenger2
      @metalvenger2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Silver surfer's heal ability is so powerful and broken that he is automatic s tier

    • @LUMOSHROOM
      @LUMOSHROOM  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@metalvenger2 In all of my testing (on Hard difficulty) healing was never necessary or worth giving up a slot just for Silver Surfer.

    • @metalvenger2
      @metalvenger2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LUMOSHROOM its still broken as it heals any nearby teamates and himself an immediate 50-70% HP (depending on level)

  • @titaniumcranium3755
    @titaniumcranium3755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    Playing as spider-man and being able to take swords from enemies was the best thing as a kid.

    • @amateur-madman3047
      @amateur-madman3047 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Spitting out quips the whole time “My grandma’s got stronger grip than you”😂

  • @sable_ensemble
    @sable_ensemble 2 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    10:34 Ms. Marvel
    10:57 Blade
    11:19 Spider-Woman
    11:33 Doctor Doom
    12:39 Colossus
    12:48 Luke Cage
    13:04 The Thing
    13:20 Venom
    13:59 Ghost Rider
    14:22 Black Panther
    14:58 Storm
    15:18 Thor
    15:45 Invisible Woman
    16:09 Moon Knight
    16:36 Daredevil
    16:53 Human Torch
    17:14 Cyclops
    17:49 Nick Fury
    18:42 Sabretooth
    19:09 Silver Surfer
    19:44 Magneto
    20:20 Doctor Strange
    20:37 Hulk
    21:04 Hawkeye
    21:43 Nightcrawler
    21:59 Elektra
    22:32 Captain America
    23:00 Iron Man
    23:33 Spider-Man
    24:02 Ice Man
    24:17 Mr. Fantastic
    25:12 Deadpool
    25:56 Wolverine

    • @worstfate
      @worstfate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you sir

    • @Knightfaller
      @Knightfaller ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Not all heroes wear capes

    • @Alex-eu6rw
      @Alex-eu6rw หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      30 minute video doesn’t start till 11 minutes in holy shit

    • @Tariqali-bj5hm
      @Tariqali-bj5hm หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My older brother and I played wolverine and Deadpool nonstop l, it was awesome

  • @huh4346
    @huh4346 4 ปีที่แล้ว +431

    This game is so underrated

    • @voidoblivion8673
      @voidoblivion8673 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It got 2 sequels, MUA1 has active (!) modding community and I'm considering getting switch just to play it.

    • @oldsnake7793
      @oldsnake7793 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Not really. Just forgotten

    • @matthewbraith0411
      @matthewbraith0411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@voidoblivion8673 1 sequel, MUA 3 doesn't exist, getting a switch just to play that trash is insulting.

    • @carnage1284
      @carnage1284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@oldsnake7793 its wayyy better than that trash marvrl avengers game

    • @oldsnake7793
      @oldsnake7793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@carnage1284 duh. But I was just saying its not underrated it was just forgotten. The Ultimate Alliance games were loved and never underrated but we just forgot about them after time

  • @ruzxnn7920
    @ruzxnn7920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +272

    As someone who has been playing this game religiously since 2006, i must say you made an excellent tier list. However, i would argue that moon knight is extremely top tier. I have the game on Xbox one and my moon knight is around lvl 96. When combined with Irom Mans energy reroute and deadpools battle cry I've managed to kill late game bosses with Nunchucks without running out of energy. Also, I wholeheartedly believe that hulk is THE BEST character in the game by a long shot. Ive solo'ed the game on hard twice with him because of Fury and cyclone punch. Keep up the good work tho its nice to see more people play a game i hold so close to my heart

    • @aaronvirdee5813
      @aaronvirdee5813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Incredible!!!

    • @ShiftyGuy777
      @ShiftyGuy777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And use his Orginal costume to make him a melee monster.

    • @Talen1976
      @Talen1976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I agree about Moonknight. His Nunchcuks and Extreme Power moves are both boss killers on their own.

    • @ruzxnn7920
      @ruzxnn7920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Talen1976 Exactly

    • @glawrk2861
      @glawrk2861 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. MK also happens to have the best Xtreme in the game, and Hulk is mad stupid and mad fun.

  • @TaylorCoffman87
    @TaylorCoffman87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    10:09 is when the list starts. Everything before is him explaining how he came up with rankings and his passion for the game. Good background information but for those just looking for the list.

  • @tjknight
    @tjknight 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Hated that the sequels didn't have unique throws, reinacting that first cutscene with Cap was my favorite. Spidey's also made quick work of a single target. Cosmetics actually having a part in gameplay was also really cool

  • @dakliq420
    @dakliq420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    While I absolutely agree with you on Cap being the best all around character in the game,I would argue for Hulk being considered God tier with Wolverine and Deadpool. He can solo easy.

    • @tonynasaofficial
      @tonynasaofficial ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes hulk is good especially with the planet hulk outfit

  • @geddysokolowsky442
    @geddysokolowsky442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I love how seriously this video takes "high-level play" for Ultimate Alliance. I've also spent many years playing this game and looking into its depth (I've even become a modder for it), so it's fascinating to see someone like-minded going into full detail. :)

    • @GameGuy667
      @GameGuy667 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How can you mod it? I cant even find it online PC.

    • @geddysokolowsky442
      @geddysokolowsky442 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GameGuy667 check the MarvelMods site, there's a lot of info on modding there! Although most mods only work in the original 2006 PC version. There's not any big loss, though, since pretty much every feature from the remaster has been backported

    • @GameGuy667
      @GameGuy667 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@geddysokolowsky442 Yo, but how did you even get the game on PC? There isn't any available place I can find it on, not on steam or anything

    • @geddysokolowsky442
      @geddysokolowsky442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GameGuy667 I have an old copy of the 2006 version (and I also bought the remaster on Steam when it came out), but there's an archived copy in the Wayback Machine: archive.org/details/raven-mua

    • @GameGuy667
      @GameGuy667 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@geddysokolowsky442 Holy shit thanks. I assume you cant do much online anymore lmao

  • @RKO7447
    @RKO7447 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Also Hulk's enlarge power is absolutely broken in this game imo. It does an obscene amount of damage and the increased speed makes him kill any normal enemy instantly with a trip followed by ground punches. Also his roll with the power on is so fast that the camera cannot keep up with him.
    Also fun fact picking up an object as big Hulk makes that object grow. You can drop it and keep picking it up and it keeps growing lol

    • @ShiftyGuy777
      @ShiftyGuy777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So this makes hulk the fastest character in the game?

    • @lepork519
      @lepork519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ShiftyGuy777 yeah, with only one or two rolls you can escape from any trouble easily, that buff is probably the best for solo

    • @glawrk2861
      @glawrk2861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ShiftyGuy777 yeah. Add Hawkeye and Deadpool's buff and i don't know how fast he can potentially be. Maybe Thor can keep up but I haven't tried.

  • @hyperviper9888
    @hyperviper9888 5 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    There is a glitch that makes surfer have the highest dps in the game, his molecular mix up does the damage of your fully charged cosmic beam. Also, deadpool's buff adds damage per hit, so the fullscreen mash powers that venom and surfer have go from being decent crowd control into screenwiper. Surfer has by far the highest damage potential in the game. Oh and mr fantastic can have over 100% crit chance, he also hits hard as hell

    • @LUMOSHROOM
      @LUMOSHROOM  5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Explain how to do the glitch and I'll try to do it on stream.

    • @floridafan561
      @floridafan561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Fully charge cosmic beam then his molecular mix up will cause the damage of fully charged beam. Really easy to do

    • @tonson5214
      @tonson5214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I figured this out when I was playing online with my buddy 6 years ago

    • @matthewrocks23
      @matthewrocks23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve done that with mr fantastic a lot with his big fists

    • @arkainjalex12
      @arkainjalex12 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly. You just described the strongest team. I also add in Iron Man for his energy cost reduction team buff.

  • @TheDerkus
    @TheDerkus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    There's at least one more team synergy to include - Dr. Strange, Mr. Fantastic, Elektra, Luke Cage. Strange's Xtreme attack has a chance to turn stunned/frozen/slowed enemies into pips, Mr. Fantastic gives an XP boost, Cage gives a money boost, and Elektra stuns enemies so Strange can pip-ify them. You can repeat this indefinitely on the simulators to farm (and it's pretty fun). Presumably Iceman and possibly others work in place of Elektra but I haven't played this game in a while.

    • @LUMOSHROOM
      @LUMOSHROOM  4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I didn't even consider looking for a farming team.
      I was mainly concerned with raw damage output in structuring the tier list but thank you for sharing.

    • @TheDerkus
      @TheDerkus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@LUMOSHROOM Thanks for making the video, I learned a lot!

  • @Archemetics
    @Archemetics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Only thing I hate about this game is that it's no longer available for purchase for Xbox One & Playstation 4 😭

  • @davidamaro1394
    @davidamaro1394 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Who tf has ever given negative feedback to this game? Kids today don’t count, I’m talking about the people who were alive when it came out and played it on their current system of the time.

  • @Dmobley9901
    @Dmobley9901 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'd like to argue/add some points on a few characters.
    I understand giving Fury a high B-Tier, but I'd argue he could definitely be low to mid A-Tier, as you focused more on his SMG ability, and didn't talk about his sniper ability at all, which without any strings attached has a 25% chance to instant-kill non-boss enemies, and he's also one of the few characters able to go invisible with his cloaking boost which allows him to basically go invis, and pick off enemies by one shotting them, that's mentioning the fact that invis makes a character get ignored by most enemies as long as they don't attack them, and if they do attack, only the damaged enemy will react, and they'll lose interest in you after a few seconds, and in addition Fury's instant kill sniper goes from a 25% chance on regular enemies (including giants), to a 50% chance on stunned enemies, which essentially means you'll be able to burst down whole groups by picking them off at a distance while they can't even react to you.
    On the topic of Wolverine, I completely agree with his placement, but I think you missed out on what could be argued is either his best or second best rage ability, Certain Death (The rage form of his second ability, lunge), Certain Death has a BASE chance 50% instant kill to regular enemies with no upgrades to lunge at all, which puts it on par with Fury's Sniper, and that's without upgrades, I haven't maxed it out yet, but if I'm not mistaken, at max this ability can get close to a 100% instant kill rate, and that's on top of his claw frenzy rage ability.
    And two details I think are important to take note of, is that you could potentially argue for Hulk and Sabertooth to be low S-tier, as they may not have the raw DPS or versatility of Deadpool or Wolverine, but they both have Healing Factors, which is a massive plus that I think shouldn't be ignored for them, since it's a highlight of why Deadpool and Wolverine are so good in this game, healing factors make survival an almost non-issue in the game even in the hardest challenges.
    One point I'll argue on is the claim that Doom's grab is worthless, it makes me think that you don't know how it works, Doom's grab is unique in that if you grab an enemy, instead of it being the default grab, Doom will start damaging the enemy over time, and you can repeatedly press the regular attack button to extend this grab to be much longer, and can finish the grab with the power attack button to toss the enemy to the side, if they're still alive this will leave them stunned, and also stun any enemies in the way, it's a small point and I don't think it changes his place, but still noteworthy.

  • @kingofgames93
    @kingofgames93 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This was one of my favorite games of all time, i played so much of this and Xmen Apocalypse back in 2006-2009

  • @dankspiderman579
    @dankspiderman579 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    As a Spider-Man fan and an Ultimate Alliance fan, I'm extremely happy you've considered the Webhead a contender for best support character. Spider-Man in the Ultimate Alliance games has always been deceptively useful and skilled at bringing out a team's potential.

    • @cerromeceo
      @cerromeceo 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dude is trash 🗑

    • @donellebullock7404
      @donellebullock7404 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was able to solo a lot with him. I think there's an item that give regeneration.I equipped that and used his sling shot, impact webs, I think the web-kick, dome. They were great with range and you could literally spend the game playing pin-head bowling down hallways.

  • @bluemarvel5970
    @bluemarvel5970 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wow fantastic analysis bro! A few things I've learned over my many years of playing MUA on numerous systems are:
    1. The trick of giving all ai teammates pick-up weapons. As they last considerably longer and they are glitched to where they can use their own power while holding weapons.
    2. The long fight skip against the ironman doombots at stark tower. If you open a portal before going into the lab section, and the portal takes you to the completed (safe) HQ of doom-stark tower :D, allowing you to just skip straight ahead to castle doom.
    3. Perhaps my favorite, tricking (certain) boss' ai attack patterns. For certain bosses and mini bosses that don't have abilities that shove you far; make you run away etc. i.e., Loki, Mephisto and Doom, this trick works well. You surround the boss and spam light attacks (standard attacks) with one character. The boss ai is designed to prioritize the player and so will focus in on damaging that character. Before they do attack, or just as they begin, simply switch characters and keep spamming the attack. The boss will spend a second or 2 still attacking the now ai character (who i believe take considerably less dmg than when player controlled) before switch their attention back to the now-switched player character. Although by the time they've started to attack the player, you've already switch to the third character, then the fourth. Rinse and repeat. I've used this exploit on many bosses and its extremely affective on those who have few or none surrounding minion fodders. It can be further enhanced by using the team command function and telling the team to be agressive which should keep them focused on the boss.

  • @Crazyoldman84
    @Crazyoldman84 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dr strange was my favourite because of his levitation ability. So much fun throwing enemies off edges 🤣. Also his teleportation was fun.

  • @hiimnick2358
    @hiimnick2358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this video is awesome, great work! this game holds a special place in my heart, i was playing it when i was 5 years old the year it came out, glad to see people still talking about it

  • @tonynasaofficial
    @tonynasaofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    There is a glitch which can make any enemy your ally without them turning back into an enemy, basically you need dr strange and invisible woman now invisible woman first needs to incapsulate the enemy(s) then dr strange uses his mind wipe ability and vuala you have an enemy on your side for ever c: I really do hope you make a video on this because no one knows about this! It's a glorious glitch and had lost of fun fighting bosses with an army! I also remember a glitch on how to get default man! I hope you do make it c: (I made a video of it!)

    • @ShiftyGuy777
      @ShiftyGuy777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh wow, I think I will try it out. Although I found a glitch as well (I don't know if you found it). This glitch gives you the ability to grab bosses. In the fight with Enchantress and her bodygaurd, kill Enchantress as many times you like, how do you this? Well after killing Enchantress go to the nearest save spot and change team (you don't have to change team) and exit out, Enchantress will later respawn, this seems to work best with custom teams (like I did with Ghost Rider, Venom, Hawkeye and Luke Cage). To make it easy use a pop up to kill her instantly at the bridge, this also carries to different save files, although it takes some time to do it. But this makes boosts and debuffs useless now (enemies are affected too), so characters like Hawkeye are now mediocre or bad, so pick a trade off. Any feedback is nice.
      P.S don't knock the Executioner off the bridge while he's invincible, the game will crash.

    • @tonynasaofficial
      @tonynasaofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShiftyGuy777 I made a video about it

    • @tonynasaofficial
      @tonynasaofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShiftyGuy777 ok ty for this so basically now I can turn them into allies aswell if I could grab them then invisible woman's bubble ability must work and maybe Dr strange's too! Ground breaking

    • @echospace7347
      @echospace7347 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      this sounds spicy!

  • @dakliq420
    @dakliq420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I feel Cyclops should be A tier with his ultimate and rapid fire optic blast alone. And Cyke is very underrated as far as melee goes.

  • @swiggityswooty6149
    @swiggityswooty6149 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this is like my 6th time watching this, absolute masterpiece of a video

  • @greengamma569
    @greengamma569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hulk is easily god tier. His boost makes him ridiculously fast and powerful, and turns his cyclone punch into a boss melter. his grab attack “hulk knock down” takes out any regular enemy in the game- even if they don’t outright die because you don’t have it upgraded they can’t fight back. He’s also great for crowd control, With both his stomp and hulk smash abilities, with each working better than the other depending on the situation. If you’re surrounded hulk smash followed by cyclone punch to kill any stragglers will turn a horde to dust, and if they’re grouped together in front of you especially in a tighter area like a hallway, his stomp is better. All In all, he is easily as good as or better than wolverine.

  • @theomnigamer9177
    @theomnigamer9177 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great video. I appreciate tier lists for non-fighting games, especially for RPGs like this. Keep up the great content. I guess you could say this video was..... Amazing.

  • @LSofACO
    @LSofACO 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Thank you for producing content for this game, and for at least attempting to discuss serious play. This video is one of the few sources I've found which do this, and you get several important points right, such as disregarding healing and defense in general and recognizing the importance of Deadpool to most teams.
    With that said, I'm disappointed at the shallowness of this list. Doom and Hawkeye aren't even mentioned as team boosters, and both of them are far more effective in that role than Daredevil, who you do discuss as a team booster. Hawkeye is second only to Deadpool in this category as his boost shortens virtually all animations, even Xtremes and other boosts. Doom is a huge help to any team based around a damage dealer whose primary move is a 2HKO on normal enemies, as well as increasing average DPS by nearly as much as Electra. Glitches like the charge damage stick on Black Panther and Nightcrawler aren't discussed when they dramatically alter the playstyles of these characters (I see someone has mentioned the Surfer glitch in the comments at least). Animation differences against bosses like Nick Fury's Furious and Wolverine's Lethal Lunge aren't mentioned, and neither are team combos like the several variations of Dr. Strange's infinite Xtreams. Items are completely ignored, which is probably the most egregious omission since they can fundamentally transform characters, especially with the secondary effect transfer glitch. Just as an example, Human Torch can oneshot crowds from mid range in Asgard simulators with Inferno at level 99 with a glitched Atuma's Wrath. There's hardly a character in the game who doesn't have a power go from a 3HKO to a 2HKO even with an unglitched Asgard Armor. A close second to the disregard of items is your general underuse of team and personal boosts. This particularly stands out on Mr. Fantastic, whose personal boost guarantees him critical hits on every attack, including his Xtreme, and turns his Rubberband Recoil into an easy OHKO with any +50% power damage item, such as Asgard Armor. Blade (attack and movement speed) and Human Torch (all power damage, not just melee damage as it says) are two more whose vital personal boosts you ignored.
    Trying to simultaneously rank characters for solo and team play is also holding this list back from coherence, as some characters simply require various sorts of team boosts, as you allude to with Iron Man's Energy Reroute (although this one in particular can be outgrown by blitzing through the game for Focus upgrades) and others can make themselves invulnerable or functionally invulnerable and thus slowly push through virtually anything solo. An example of a character transformed by team boosts is Venom, whose Symbiote Flail goes from distinctly mediocre to the third-best crowd control move in the game when supported by Deadpool and Dr. Doom. A related issue is your focus on the breadth and viability of secondary options instead of merely peak effectiveness, which isn't how competitive tier lists work. The fact that Thor can also run a hammer costume doesn't move his elemental build up a tier.
    I do hope that you'll create more content for this game, and revisit this tier list in more depth. I'll be following your work with interest.

    • @2midgetsinanovercoat638
      @2midgetsinanovercoat638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Finally I found something referencing the item effects glitch. How does this work? Can you proc it on purpose or is it random?

    • @LSofACO
      @LSofACO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@2midgetsinanovercoat638 Single-effect items can be glitched to have secondary effects of two-effect items. Equip double-effect item in extraction point, leave, equip single-effect item in extraction point, leave, die, reload from checkpoint.

    • @2midgetsinanovercoat638
      @2midgetsinanovercoat638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LSofACO thanks a lot, this has made so many options open up. One more thing though, what is this "charge damage stick" on nightcrawler and black panther you mentioned?

    • @LSofACO
      @LSofACO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@2midgetsinanovercoat638 Some, but not all, moves that can be charged will deal the highest damage they have dealt at any charge level since the last loading screen, so you can spam the uncharged version for charged damage after doing one charged version.

    • @tonynasaofficial
      @tonynasaofficial ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Finally I found a man of culture! ✨

  • @shawnganske8731
    @shawnganske8731 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Electra is very underwhelming but what I do is use her as a ultimate spammer, upgrade her assassin outfit momentum, and upgrade team momentum bonuses and give her executioners axe and go to town

  • @eveahn9595
    @eveahn9595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for doing this video, it made me want to play this game again. I'll definitely do it later. Planning on spending many hours doing it.

  • @FlurryJoe
    @FlurryJoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    MUA1 is superior to 2 & 3. MUA2 has a bland roster, no minigames and limited costume selection. MUA3 has palette swap costumes, a terrible art direction, desolate stage layouts, no minigames and plays like a phone game. Overall, I love this review. Gj!

    • @tyminator8176
      @tyminator8176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I honestly love 3, but to each their own

    • @smoakdghost3206
      @smoakdghost3206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I honestly love 2, but to each their own

    • @FlurryJoe
      @FlurryJoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@tyminator8176 3 has good qualities. Understandable.

    • @FlurryJoe
      @FlurryJoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@smoakdghost3206 I love 2 too. It has by far the best models.

    • @smoakdghost3206
      @smoakdghost3206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FlurryJoe I personally think it’s the best one with the best gameplay imo

  • @AMPStorm
    @AMPStorm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I am really surprised to.see Doom outside of A tier. To me he seemed like he was broken because he had no weakness. I was however playing on normal while giving him all of the stat buffs. I feel like Moonknight has by far the strongest damage potential and so does his ultimate.

    • @LegsON
      @LegsON วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Doom is just mediocre. Mediocre damage, bad at tanking, weak CC, no team buff.

    • @AMPStorm
      @AMPStorm 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@LegsON Reading my comment back I guess my perspective was off due to playing on normal difficulty while feeding every upgrade to him making him unkillable.

  • @Sluggwurth
    @Sluggwurth หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My team back in the day was Wolverine, Spider-man, Hulk, and Human Torch. Goated game.

  • @LazarusHD
    @LazarusHD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dope video, loved this game as a kid and this brings back so many memories. Great comment section too!

  • @ruffmenace95gaming
    @ruffmenace95gaming หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Cyclops animation is cool as hell. I would never get tired of seeing that

  • @RKO7447
    @RKO7447 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    In coop a friend and I discovered Nick Fury's sniper power is crazy good when one player stuns enemies for Fury. The power fully upgraded has a 50% chance of instant KO I believe when the enemy is stunned

    • @glawrk2861
      @glawrk2861 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Furious is also a hidden gem.

    • @treytison1444
      @treytison1444 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah SMG sucks for damage but using him for furious and sniper shot with his cloak makes him pretty fun

    • @Douche85
      @Douche85 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Furious does great damage and hits a group as well the slam part damages anyone nearby.

  • @zerojager1787
    @zerojager1787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tbh, I usually play ghost rider with the classic costume(black with spikes) max hellfire damage, starbolts flame (5 fire damage to melee and 35% to all fire damage powers) and max out ghost riders ravaging flame projectile along with chain flechette for stun. I'm happy that someone actually took the time to make a tier last. Hats off to you dude

  • @rednecksniper4715
    @rednecksniper4715 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The murder world level was incredibly fun

  • @CarnageRulez469
    @CarnageRulez469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always loved playing Ghost Rider in MUA. Ravaging Flame, Vengeance and his fire damage boost from Starbolt’s Flame were nuts. Also really lucky that Vengeance heals your allies.

  • @Scorpion122178
    @Scorpion122178 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    People didn't like this game? I thought it was fantastic. It's still probably one of the best marvel games to date.

  • @FHRiley-yk9by
    @FHRiley-yk9by 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    20:50 Shawn Michaels right before he does Sweet Chin Music

  • @Decroux3000
    @Decroux3000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I legit came to this video with the intention of finding the fastest hero for my trophy hunting speed runs so thanks for that end section. Great vid :)

    • @pedrocampos1787
      @pedrocampos1787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too?

    • @PeterSTIHL
      @PeterSTIHL 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fastest? Depends on who you're playing; Thing, Hulk, and Colossus have a dash, and if you use "Spiders bite" that gives you 20% attack and run speed. If you use Spiderman with Spider bite, his zip line is faster as you travel, Same with Venom.

    • @Decroux3000
      @Decroux3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PeterSTIHL Or you could watch the video and see that Mr Fantastic is actually the answer :)

  • @destronlaserwave9566
    @destronlaserwave9566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Good list!
    Although it made me realize there is more to Ultimate Alliance and I been playing it wrong all my life, as some of the stat distribution I gave my characters was off.

    • @LUMOSHROOM
      @LUMOSHROOM  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There's no wrong way to play Ultimate Alliance.
      I just wanted to bring some attention to the relative amount of depth it has as I really love the game.

    • @destronlaserwave9566
      @destronlaserwave9566 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LUMOSHROOM Cool! Are you gonna do a tier list on the second and third game?

    • @LUMOSHROOM
      @LUMOSHROOM  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@destronlaserwave9566 Probably not.

    • @kentelley4589
      @kentelley4589 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LUMOSHROOM so do I friend ironically-"I PERSONALLY ANALYZED THIS GAME SEMI-SIMILAR TO YOU! Much respect & love to this vid' man!!👍👍😁👌

  • @taylophilly9891
    @taylophilly9891 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the community here. Long live MUA.

  • @OxbowisaMstie
    @OxbowisaMstie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think Sabertooth's Talon Frenzy being on main edges out Wolvie in S tier.
    Once that is maxed it just gets ridiculous, even before buffs.
    Also, shoutout to Storm's Lightning Strike. She can nuke hard bosses in a few hits when her crits get off.

  • @casscassillas1284
    @casscassillas1284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video! Have you ever considered trying a nuzlocke/iron man run of the game on hard? Where deaths for characters would be permanent. Since MUA is a pretty simple game, the permadeath challenge can really add to the intensity/strategy of the game.
    Do I wanna use Wolverine right from the get-go and risk losing him for the rest of the game, or save him for the final levels? Should I use the garbage characters first to get them out of the way? Should I do teams of 2-3 instead of 4 to minimize the amount of people in danger/chance of a character getting KO'd by dumb AI?
    Personally I love playing the game this way. It'd be interesting to see your take/know if you've tried it.

    • @AFriendlyUnicorn
      @AFriendlyUnicorn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      dang, thanks for the idea. i might try to make a video on that someday :D.

    • @ShiftyGuy777
      @ShiftyGuy777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So game over if iron man dies?
      Also be prepared for some dumb deaths in mephisto's realm and bifrost bridge.

    • @tonynasaofficial
      @tonynasaofficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fun fact that gamemode exist in the PSP version, the PSP version is exactly like the ps2 version but with more stuff added like survival simulator discs where enemies spawn indefinitely, also it's called Uber hero mode where you can only pick 4 heroes for the entire story and if they die they die permanently!

  • @eoghanfeighery7383
    @eoghanfeighery7383 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    First off, this is a pretty well made tier list since I remember having the Gold Edition on XBOX 360 before the console died on me. Wonder if I should buy a second hand one?
    That being said, I do admit there's a few flaws (constructively speaking):
    Excluding gear especially ones gained from boss fights is a bit odd since there are boss gear items that can aid certain characters like Starbolt's Flame can work well with Ghost Rider and Human Torch since they deal fire damage and Asgard Armor is glitched to apply for all damage types. Plus Spider's Bite's speed boost can help any and all tank characters since as the archetype goes they can be slower compared to other characters. Also there's a glitch that lets you combine two gear bonuses for a character. Video is up on TH-cam.
    You did rule out a few boosts like the ones that slow down enemies for a time which I always used to gain the upper hand. Daredevil, Spidey and Ms Marvel have these boosts. Iceman's Frigid Aura works well in his simulator mission and in Mephisto's Realm since any demon crawlers that jump onto him will instantly die.
    Also I noticed you left out a few status effects in certain extremes like Strange's turning foes into pips if stunned and frozen, Spider Woman's converting enemies to allies for a brief time like in XML2 (though the aim is kinda shoddy imo), Luke's can turn stunned enemies into credit drops and Thing's has a chance of slowing enemy movement.
    Finally, I feel like you could've had list of powers for each character since Ms Marvel's Prism is great against non-energy-resistant foes and Polar Explosion works well in bosses and in large groups since power viability is very subjective from person to person. Maybe a spreadsheet perhaps?
    But regardless of my nitpicks, you did a good job, Lumo.

  • @besishabaj2970
    @besishabaj2970 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video is well done. Because of your advice now I have to have Ironman on every team lol

  • @tonynasaofficial
    @tonynasaofficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My favorite team human torch, ice man, Thor, and storm!

    • @ricky.alonso
      @ricky.alonso 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      NATURAL FORCES! I use Magneto instead of Ice Man, though. Haha

    • @tonynasaofficial
      @tonynasaofficial ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ricky.alonso I mostly had Thor cause he has the ability to carry heavy stuff before Thor I had spiderman!

  • @bryankoenig7954
    @bryankoenig7954 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was super helpful! You rock!

  • @sadboi3238
    @sadboi3238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember playing both Ultimate Alliance games and I was so hooked as a kid because playing as some of my favorite heroes and learning about new ones was amazing, I didn’t even know that the playstation has Ultimate Alliance but now I’m getting it for the nostalgia and how fun it was

    • @AMPStorm
      @AMPStorm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Too bad they aren't available anymore because of licensing issues.

  • @Avenging_Archer
    @Avenging_Archer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Something I've realized is that people have massively different opinions probably based on their personal playstyles, I've checked out your list, a written character guide and another channel's character reviews and they're all so different lol.
    Anyway just people talking about this game is good for me, I love it and thank all of it's fans for their passion.

  • @theotherbeatle707
    @theotherbeatle707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Spiderman my go to. Web Shield makes him avoid most damage entirely and Web Warrior pretty sure is single most damaging power in the game with the cheapest energy cost. It wrecks bosses and anyone else. Then roll in grab orbs roll out repeat.

  • @tonynasaofficial
    @tonynasaofficial ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Funny enough in the PSP version there is captain marvel and I'd love to know what you think of that character, aswell as ronin, black widow! So odd seeing ms. Marvel be so underwhelming when in the comics she's legit S tier but oh well

  • @belhariry
    @belhariry 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Imagine if Larian did a turn-based version of this game, make it a god honest RPG. I would buy it instantly. Great video!

    • @LegsON
      @LegsON วันที่ผ่านมา

      Imagine offering a turn-based game to action fans...

  • @drvincemd
    @drvincemd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My goto team as a kid was Deadpool, Ghost Rider, Blade and Spiderman just because they were cool

  • @ruslan3489
    @ruslan3489 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don't know if its important, its an old video. I found best in slot hero for all time. Human torch. His "inferno" ability is best there is for dealing damage. Use also on him his first fire aura, its also increases inferno's damage. With the right team, you can deal like 1000+ dmg in one hit. Two hits in 1 second actually. Daredevil, thor, Deadpool and human torch himself. Just use auras on other three characters. Try it, its very fun to play. Basically will instantly kill any mobs, except those big ones, like super soldiers. When thor's aura is not needed anymore, change him for whoever you like.

  • @nowitscarsontime
    @nowitscarsontime ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is there any chance that you would make another tier list on this game, but make it about all the gear you get from the bosses in the game?

  • @tonynasaofficial
    @tonynasaofficial ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fun fact there's a glitch in ultimate alliance 1 where you can turn any enemy into your ally you'll need 2 ppl invisible woman and Dr strange first invisible woman needs to incapsulate the enemy with the bubble attack power then Dr needs to use the mind wipe and presto now you can buff your new enemy ally and if the enemy had a buff it gets added to your team I even made a video about it also there's a hidden character in the game known as defaultman aswell which not slot people know about!

    • @aa-mp5mo
      @aa-mp5mo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      defaultman sounds hilarious lol, how would you unlock it?

  • @jordancarter8029
    @jordancarter8029 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hate that I was too young to appreciate the intricacies of this game at the time.

  • @tonson5214
    @tonson5214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This comment section feels like a little brotherhood of people who really love this game, I love you all.

    • @BigSlowly.
      @BigSlowly. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      luv you too bro

  • @Vinicius_2911
    @Vinicius_2911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    who play this and dont like must find some pscological help

    • @tyminator8176
      @tyminator8176 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Could never agree more with someone on the internet

    • @NyctoPhobia197
      @NyctoPhobia197 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Concordo, muito bom esse jogo

  • @SloanDrone
    @SloanDrone 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really good vid man

  • @jourdansockey
    @jourdansockey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    hmm... There is a strategy I'm familar with...
    Deadpool with weapon x costume due to healing factor upgrade
    Deathbird's feathers for 5% extra healing factor
    give Deadpool body, strike and focus upgrades exclusively and Blade Spin equipped for powers
    Max out the costume
    And thus you have An unstoppable heavy healing spinning merc with Tank like stats
    ...or if you have the psp version, cheese 85% of boss fights with Ronin's Spine Teaser attack.

  • @jameer4812
    @jameer4812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The main go to team I run each time are Wolverine, Hulk, Ghost Rider and Venom. The team is pretty busted so I was kinda surprised Ghost rider and Venom were so low. The team is very recommended.

  • @jordanrussell6481
    @jordanrussell6481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    im a little late to this video but I love ultimate alliance. I just got ultimate alliance three for the switch. I would love to see a tier list for the second and third games as well!

  • @cerromeceo
    @cerromeceo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The best ultimate alliance

  • @jhvlen
    @jhvlen 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    who has ever said these criticisms about UA respectfully, this is one of the most widely loved games of all time

  • @nomorewordz619
    @nomorewordz619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For speedruning, I've found out that if you use Dr. Strange's teleport, you can skip the section where you have to open the doors for the skrull queen's ship.

  • @mikaela5938
    @mikaela5938 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i like doing moon knight and spamming his staff, it was really fun bc big combo if you had enough enemies around

  • @AdAce21
    @AdAce21 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great breakdown; no arguments with any of the placements, outside of Torch (I feel he could move up a tier). My main team was Thor, Iceman, Torch, Hawkeye.

  • @Roddy425
    @Roddy425 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Idk if it’s bc I used him wrong, but ghost rider didn’t really do much for my team, I had wolverine, deadpool, and spidey on my team and they outclassed rider badly, I had him for the resurrection ability but I remember it only popping once in my entire playthrough during the niffleheim level

  • @humbledpanda2997
    @humbledpanda2997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Me and my friend played this together and I ALWAYS used Spider-Man (Venom Suit) & Ice Man (Classic Suit) and I felt they were absolutely broken!

  • @RockOut446
    @RockOut446 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Tier list starts at 10:15

  • @Azakana011
    @Azakana011 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome job bro

  • @tyminator8176
    @tyminator8176 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great list and it honestly brings a tear to my that there are people who love this game too.
    I'm gonna recommend a challenge to you, good sir. Beat the game on hard, starting with level 1 characters, you can add in permadeath if you want. I played a bit of it and holy good god was the beginning section just f ing torture.
    You can start hard with level 1s by; starting a new game on easy or normal. Getting to the first shield point. Saving. Quiting. Start a new game on hard and select use saved data. Just select the file you just made and bam.

    • @PeterSTIHL
      @PeterSTIHL 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I tried this once, I can't get past the first board... Lol

  • @tonynasaofficial
    @tonynasaofficial ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I used to play this on my ps2 in 2006 sadly I lost my ps2 so I started replaying it on a PSP emulator known as ppsspp and made my own team called THE GOLDEN ORDER, the first four that I picked was ice man, human torch, Thor, and Deadpool then I also added dr strange to the team! The first character I maxed out was Iceman, before watching this video!

  • @ntwarmachine9093
    @ntwarmachine9093 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting... I think Spider-Woman's been one of my best party members to have on the team. Her venom blast always comes in handy against enemies because of how much damage it does, and metabolic aura helps me a lot when playing on higher difficulties.

  • @crashx9973
    @crashx9973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d say you made a pretty good tier list for this game. I may not agree with all your placements of the cast but I can respect your opinions towards them. Elektra I can definitely agree is underwhelming on her own, as her attack power set is honestly not good compared to others. Solo wise, Focused Chi does make her somewhat better on her own. As a team player I can definitely agree she works wonders with her team boost and Xtreme.

    • @cityofangels7x64
      @cityofangels7x64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly, i’ve been using her a bunch on my hard playthrough, and the only thing I can say is that she’s useful for her buffs and Xtreme. Her powers don’t really hit hard, so i’ve been trying to grab Striking upgrades with her whenever I could. I’ve been running with her Stealth costume, and I gave her imperial mantle. I maxed out her costume and with the Imperial Mantle, it doesn’t really improve her and aside from those she isn’t that great of a character.

  • @coolguy101084
    @coolguy101084 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great breakdown

  • @cruzanassassin
    @cruzanassassin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What's a takedown?

    • @Roddy425
      @Roddy425 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When you grab onto an enemy, you press B or circle depending on what console you play and it does a special takedown animation for each character

  • @Honchopokoloco
    @Honchopokoloco หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Remastered version looks BEAUTIFUL

  • @malikshabazz2065
    @malikshabazz2065 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video!

  • @luckyplvys
    @luckyplvys 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This remastered edition looks amazing

  • @ellezim8136
    @ellezim8136 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gr8 video. You ever played the xmen legends games that were made in this same style? Those were rly good too

  • @user-xe9sv7oj1s
    @user-xe9sv7oj1s 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great breakdown. It’s a real shame, this series had alot of potential.

  • @xkinged
    @xkinged 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is such a great video, I love how you made a tier list for every character in this game. I still play this game on my xbox 360. Personally I think Human Torch is better than what he is if you give him his modern outfit, the one with energy regeneration, all you need to do is spam his best moves to clear out a bunch of enemies. Same with Moon Knight wearing his Konshu outfit with his energy regeneration, he can spam his staff move and do a lot of damage a lot longer. But overall, this is a very accurate tier list

  • @Tariqali-bj5hm
    @Tariqali-bj5hm หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was gonna have a fit if I didn't see deadpool and wolverine in S-tier 😂 straight up GODLY

  • @droxum5905
    @droxum5905 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Body hit points fucus energy points striking melee

  • @nameistron6622
    @nameistron6622 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a very god video thank you its helped me this game is great

  • @chiefdamolol
    @chiefdamolol ปีที่แล้ว +2

    will this game be coming to nex gen?

  • @tyminator8176
    @tyminator8176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Blade's flash bomb actually decreases *enemy* damage output, not how much you do to them. So it's better then you think

  • @unoriginalmoniker2625
    @unoriginalmoniker2625 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about a momentum build? For the best "Mashing X to win" playstyle, you'll want a character that can freeze time, Deadpool's speed buff, a character that can self-buff speed, and Iron man for his energy reroute to keep the time freeze and buffs going. Critical can also build momentum quickly, so characters like Invisible Woman can be surprisingly decent at spamming extremes.
    This unfortunately does waste the potential of other characters to just mash X with one character, but it can definitely work in hard mode, especially with Hawkeye because his extreme can hit enemies multiple times and make short work of bosses. Funnily enough, he can actually get so fast that he may have trouble using his Paralyzer skill... Not to mention how time freeze and speed buffs interact with Fin Fang Foom's boss fight.

  • @tonycorona8501
    @tonycorona8501 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Deadpool was always on my team! He was just that good!

  • @Dmobley9901
    @Dmobley9901 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly, coming back to this after learning what I have, I think you would love the marvel mods community if you aren't already a member.
    I was honestly shocked when I found out, not only do mods for this game exist, they're capable of almost completely changing every aspect of the game.
    The marvel mods community is a forum of die hard and talented Ultimate Alliance fans which have brought the original 2006 PC release of Ultimate Alliance and brought it to a level that's beyond the wildest imagination, the work they do to the original game (which is free to download as it's basically classified as abandonware) puts the 2016 remaster to shame, with there being mods that add not just cosmetics like new skins to the game, but full on experience altering or enhancing overhauls such as expanding the maximum roster of the game to hold 50 unique characters, mods which restore lost and scrapped content from the game's development, the ability to play as characters who were originally platform and DLC exclusives all on one version of the game, combining them into the ultimate roster, plus adding in characters from the X-Men Legends series which was the basis of Ultimate Alliance-
    And that's all just the recommended basic mods which are meant to enhance and expand on the original game, that's not even mentioning the mods that add things like 50+ playable DC comics characters, which can also be modded even further to have unique dialogue scenes and actually change the flow of the original game's story-
    (Look up Zatanna saves Nightcrawler and Jean Grey if you wanna see how detailed some of these mods get.)

  • @Crazyoldman84
    @Crazyoldman84 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I remember ghost rider gets hurt by fire really annoying

  • @ianbailey6777
    @ianbailey6777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man just broke my heart a lil bit. Colossus was my go to favorite.

  • @t-r_5064
    @t-r_5064 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will you do a tier list for UA 2 and 3 or no?

  • @hiddensquid1472
    @hiddensquid1472 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What version of the game was this?

  • @personman1148
    @personman1148 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey dude I want to plat this game but I don't have a team of 3 to play with any advice?

  • @BurningEffigy47
    @BurningEffigy47 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was wondering, are characters like Hulk, Magneto, and venom only in the remaster? I have the ps3 version and None of these are available:(

    • @tonynasaofficial
      @tonynasaofficial ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They only got released as DLC for the Xbox 360 as the GOLD edition

    • @BurningEffigy47
      @BurningEffigy47 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ohh okok thanks!

    • @BurningEffigy47
      @BurningEffigy47 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also is it for UA1 or 2 that this DLC is for?

    • @venommagnus
      @venommagnus ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They are only available for the Xbox 360 Gold Edition and the 2016 Remaster

  • @SomeTexan
    @SomeTexan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey I'm playing ultimate alliance on the wii and I forgot how to do the special takedowns when you grab enemies.What is tbe equivalent to the b button on the ps4 for the wii remote and nunchuck.

    • @LUMOSHROOM
      @LUMOSHROOM  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe C?
      Or even try shaking the wiimote