How do you think i did? Comment down below! ALSO SORRY FOR THE RECORDING, I changed the settings hoping it would help. But it made it worse. I have bought a new mic...
I think you have the Mid-Air Thief sound down perfectly. I've been listening to a LOT of M-AT the past two weeks. Mid-Air Thief and UFO Over Lappland to be honest. The sped up guitar is the chef's kiss to this song. It fits his/her style. I'm still not convinced that Mid Air Thief is the guy in the rabbit's mask. In the back of my mind, I'm holding out hope that the REAL Mid-Air thief is Summer Soul. Of course it would be wild if it was a more indie female artist like Kwan Jin ah (Jin ah Kwan - whatever she prefers) or Luli Lee. So- since you seem to be a fan too, how do you think he/she records? A lot of his recordings have a "feel" of old tape hiss to them. It almost sounds like some songs are recorded on a 1 inch tape with a REALLY old mixing desk with some wiring problems. Like in "Why?" off of Crumbling. Or "Restless Song" off his Shadow Community moniker's single release. It gives a whole "feeling" to the music. The vocals and especially the guitar string drags seem sharp, like they were recorded digitally and not on archaic equipment. But before anything in the song kicks in, the listener is met with a sound.... it's not quite a record scratch, or anything similar. The vocals in "Restless Song" come to mind here. IF this is intentional, then I think whoever mixed ALL of Mid-Air Thief's records is a genius. As a fan of hybrid digital/analog recordings, I hold out hope this is the case. Moreover I like music that makes little sense, just listen to my own crappy music to understand that. Mid-Air Thief scratches that itch for me because it can transition from a cool beat to a soundscape in a heartbeat. Keep up the great work! I'm looking forward to more!
this is an awesome comment! you gave insights to what you personally think MAT does. If I am not mistaken I know that MAT mixes his own music. On Bird's Eye Batang he mentioned that the mix is low because it was intentionally done so. I am going to assume that everything else is also mixed by himself. In terms of recording, I of course will not know much. However, the tape recording feel can be done in many different ways. 1. Plugins (RC-20, Waves' Cassette, Free ones like Izotope's Vinyl) [although the sounds won't be 100% natural, you can use LFO & automation to fw the settings even more so it is is not constant] 2. Record all your music back into an actual cassette [requires hardware] and then rerecord it back into your DAW for mastering (i know Kenny Beats does this) Also, please share your music here. I would love to take inspirations from your work. I will also give UFO Over Lappland a listen. It could be my next experiment for a video.
@@brokenenglishprod Thanks for the insight. I listened to a lot of MAT music yesterday and the "sound" is different on different tracks. On "Restless Song" it's more of a fuzziness, on "Why?" I describe it as 'cotton-y'. One of my inspirations is a crappy tape hiss story. Listen to "It's a Shame" by the Spinners, especially the 3:08 version. The story goes, Berry Gordy assembled genius musicians to record most of the Motown stuff, but he was a cheap dude. So a lot of tapes were bulk erased, over and over again so much that some of the tracks had a tape hiss on them in quiet parts. It's a Shame is one of those. The 45 version was nothing but hiss..... I had a copy I bought way back in the 70s (I'm old). Digitized, it didn't get much better, but in later versions, the 3:12 version, they separated the guitars into a more right/left balance and it got rid of most of the hiss, but now there is a wicked hum on the track, I suspect is coming from the bass input. Anyway- I've always loved that effect for an 'in the box' recording. I also admire those who can pull off digital edits that sounds like bad tape edits. Todd Rundgren's "Sounds of the Studio" game off his record "Something/Anything" points out this. There are bad edits out there, like the second chorus of Sly and the Family Stone's "Hot Fun in the Summertime." Thanks for taking an interest. My Spotify is Artkincell (I won't link it- TH-cam thinks its spam) as well as Apple Music. Three songs to start with are "Justifiable Jaywalking," "Trip to the Moon," and "Pink Alien Skeletons." The stuff isn't for the faint of heart- and mostly it's demo quality, I think. Maybe it's really not that good- you be the judge.
@@artkincell damn I listened to your music, and it is definitely interesting af. Do you mainly make music using hardware? or in the DAW as well? I think Pink Alien has a very nice progression. It reminds me of The Witcher for some odd reason.
@@brokenenglishprod Okay- to answer your question. EVERYTHING is done in box in a DAW without any plug-in at all. None-zippo. It’s all samples and software. The only instrument I own is a ukulele. Go figure. Stuff like Justifiable Jaywalking was done using string samples from many pacs, the longest sample I used was a 3-note run. There are two basic identical tracks duplicated 8 times so there are 16 tracks, in stereo, and every other track has the L-R flipped. Placed a half beat apart, the finished track is chaos, then the task comes to silence notes to get that finished project. Trip to the Moon was done differently, I used more drum samples, as I like mixing and matching, as any EDM mixer does, changing tempo etc, although the beginning (part 1) beat was built from scratch. The rest keeps up with the spacey theme with a tiny tribute to Telstar by The Tornados that early 60s hit. I haven’t any clue where Pink Alien Skeletons came from. I wanted to do a call and response type thing and that came spitting out. I like soundscapes when laid over beats and I guess I was attempting that… I guess? I dunno, I think I failed. Maybe instead of releasing singles, I should have saved all the spacey stuff to be released as single album. Perhaps I need a manager… or a PR person, as I seem to be really stupid in this respect. When I was a kid, I listened to a LOT of Stephen Reich. I had eclectic tastes in recorded material and my uncle gave me a few of Reich’s records along with some sound effects libraries and I tried to build off of that. That’s why I love MAT so much. My uncle also gave me a cheap battery/electric reel to reel tape recorder, so I spend my teens making weird music from samples the hard way. I wish I still had the tapes I made from 73-76, it’d be interesting to hear now. Thanks for the input. I work in a vacuum….so sometimes I can’t tell if I’m on the correct path with a work. I’m always afraid of making utter stinkers due to lack of input. I reviewed CDs for a Boston music magazine in the early 00s and I had one that was so bad I was stumped on how to give the band a review without totally trashing them. So, I wrote a minute-by-minute synopsis of what I was doing while I was listening to each tune. The band had potential, but lacked guidance. So, I made some positive suggestions on production and ended the review. The band loved it! So, with my own music, I’m aware of this foible. I ran an online writer’s group for American Zoetrope (Coppola’s company) in the early 00s and my mantra was that self-publishing might not be the magic bullet that writers were hoping for, as a lot of garbage can be published. There’s a lot of crap out there, I don’t want to be a contributor. I also started making music type videos on my own TH-cam channel and won an award last year for my Movin’ On video. I had to manipulate the music to get it to fit. I didn’t even think it was my best effort, so who the heck knows what is good and isn’t. I get the music for those from Artlist.IO. My “Creed Bratton- a Pam Beesley Remix” is 42 minutes long and is a soundtrack bed for a Mary Pickford silent movie. The soundtrack is all by the same artist, the BPM is steady and the same for the movie’s timing, so I really had to be careful with that one. Anyway, thanks again and sorry this was rather long.
I’m on logic ! What’s the best way to recreate that guitar flutter/ delay ping pong sound ? I saw the chords get chopped but what’s the best to emulate that whole sound using logic ?
@@brokenenglishprod Maybe Parannoul? They're a shoegaze artist but they only use VST's according to one of their few interviews. Thanks dude, love the channel a lot really inspiring!
How do you think i did? Comment down below! ALSO SORRY FOR THE RECORDING, I changed the settings hoping it would help. But it made it worse. I have bought a new mic...
Beautiful, excellent job!
What sort of synth did you use?
This is exactly what I've been looking for, thank you!! You guys nailed the sound!
thank you London! grateful for this comment!
This is exactly i want to produce with my band, thank you so much for your video, Love ittt❤❤
You can do it! Share it with us once it is ready!
I luv mid air thief so much ❤❤❤. This song sounds so much like these chains
Thanks for watching the video!
Just found your channel probably one of the most underrated music channels ever tbh you gonna blow up soon
Damn man thank you very much for saying this. It really makes me happy! Grateful for you man
I think you have the Mid-Air Thief sound down perfectly. I've been listening to a LOT of M-AT the past two weeks. Mid-Air Thief and UFO Over Lappland to be honest.
The sped up guitar is the chef's kiss to this song. It fits his/her style.
I'm still not convinced that Mid Air Thief is the guy in the rabbit's mask. In the back of my mind, I'm holding out hope that the REAL Mid-Air thief is Summer Soul. Of course it would be wild if it was a more indie female artist like Kwan Jin ah (Jin ah Kwan - whatever she prefers) or Luli Lee.
So- since you seem to be a fan too, how do you think he/she records? A lot of his recordings have a "feel" of old tape hiss to them. It almost sounds like some songs are recorded on a 1 inch tape with a REALLY old mixing desk with some wiring problems. Like in "Why?" off of Crumbling. Or "Restless Song" off his Shadow Community moniker's single release. It gives a whole "feeling" to the music. The vocals and especially the guitar string drags seem sharp, like they were recorded digitally and not on archaic equipment. But before anything in the song kicks in, the listener is met with a sound.... it's not quite a record scratch, or anything similar. The vocals in "Restless Song" come to mind here. IF this is intentional, then I think whoever mixed ALL of Mid-Air Thief's records is a genius. As a fan of hybrid digital/analog recordings, I hold out hope this is the case.
Moreover I like music that makes little sense, just listen to my own crappy music to understand that. Mid-Air Thief scratches that itch for me because it can transition from a cool beat to a soundscape in a heartbeat.
Keep up the great work! I'm looking forward to more!
this is an awesome comment! you gave insights to what you personally think MAT does. If I am not mistaken I know that MAT mixes his own music. On Bird's Eye Batang he mentioned that the mix is low because it was intentionally done so. I am going to assume that everything else is also mixed by himself.
In terms of recording, I of course will not know much. However, the tape recording feel can be done in many different ways.
1. Plugins (RC-20, Waves' Cassette, Free ones like Izotope's Vinyl) [although the sounds won't be 100% natural, you can use LFO & automation to fw the settings even more so it is is not constant]
2. Record all your music back into an actual cassette [requires hardware] and then rerecord it back into your DAW for mastering (i know Kenny Beats does this)
Also, please share your music here. I would love to take inspirations from your work.
I will also give UFO Over Lappland a listen. It could be my next experiment for a video.
@@brokenenglishprod Thanks for the insight.
I listened to a lot of MAT music yesterday and the "sound" is different on different tracks. On "Restless Song" it's more of a fuzziness, on "Why?" I describe it as 'cotton-y'.
One of my inspirations is a crappy tape hiss story. Listen to "It's a Shame" by the Spinners, especially the 3:08 version. The story goes, Berry Gordy assembled genius musicians to record most of the Motown stuff, but he was a cheap dude. So a lot of tapes were bulk erased, over and over again so much that some of the tracks had a tape hiss on them in quiet parts. It's a Shame is one of those. The 45 version was nothing but hiss..... I had a copy I bought way back in the 70s (I'm old). Digitized, it didn't get much better, but in later versions, the 3:12 version, they separated the guitars into a more right/left balance and it got rid of most of the hiss, but now there is a wicked hum on the track, I suspect is coming from the bass input.
Anyway- I've always loved that effect for an 'in the box' recording. I also admire those who can pull off digital edits that sounds like bad tape edits. Todd Rundgren's "Sounds of the Studio" game off his record "Something/Anything" points out this. There are bad edits out there, like the second chorus of Sly and the Family Stone's "Hot Fun in the Summertime."
Thanks for taking an interest. My Spotify is Artkincell (I won't link it- TH-cam thinks its spam) as well as Apple Music. Three songs to start with are "Justifiable Jaywalking," "Trip to the Moon," and "Pink Alien Skeletons." The stuff isn't for the faint of heart- and mostly it's demo quality, I think. Maybe it's really not that good- you be the judge.
@@artkincell damn I listened to your music, and it is definitely interesting af. Do you mainly make music using hardware? or in the DAW as well? I think Pink Alien has a very nice progression. It reminds me of The Witcher for some odd reason.
@@brokenenglishprod Okay- to answer your question.
EVERYTHING is done in box in a DAW without any plug-in at all. None-zippo. It’s all samples and software. The only instrument I own is a ukulele. Go figure.
Stuff like Justifiable Jaywalking was done using string samples from many pacs, the longest sample I used was a 3-note run. There are two basic identical tracks duplicated 8 times so there are 16 tracks, in stereo, and every other track has the L-R flipped. Placed a half beat apart, the finished track is chaos, then the task comes to silence notes to get that finished project.
Trip to the Moon was done differently, I used more drum samples, as I like mixing and matching, as any EDM mixer does, changing tempo etc, although the beginning (part 1) beat was built from scratch. The rest keeps up with the spacey theme with a tiny tribute to Telstar by The Tornados that early 60s hit.
I haven’t any clue where Pink Alien Skeletons came from. I wanted to do a call and response type thing and that came spitting out. I like soundscapes when laid over beats and I guess I was attempting that… I guess? I dunno, I think I failed.
Maybe instead of releasing singles, I should have saved all the spacey stuff to be released as single album. Perhaps I need a manager… or a PR person, as I seem to be really stupid in this respect.
When I was a kid, I listened to a LOT of Stephen Reich. I had eclectic tastes in recorded material and my uncle gave me a few of Reich’s records along with some sound effects libraries and I tried to build off of that. That’s why I love MAT so much. My uncle also gave me a cheap battery/electric reel to reel tape recorder, so I spend my teens making weird music from samples the hard way. I wish I still had the tapes I made from 73-76, it’d be interesting to hear now.
Thanks for the input. I work in a vacuum….so sometimes I can’t tell if I’m on the correct path with a work. I’m always afraid of making utter stinkers due to lack of input. I reviewed CDs for a Boston music magazine in the early 00s and I had one that was so bad I was stumped on how to give the band a review without totally trashing them. So, I wrote a minute-by-minute synopsis of what I was doing while I was listening to each tune. The band had potential, but lacked guidance. So, I made some positive suggestions on production and ended the review. The band loved it! So, with my own music, I’m aware of this foible. I ran an online writer’s group for American Zoetrope (Coppola’s company) in the early 00s and my mantra was that self-publishing might not be the magic bullet that writers were hoping for, as a lot of garbage can be published. There’s a lot of crap out there, I don’t want to be a contributor.
I also started making music type videos on my own TH-cam channel and won an award last year for my Movin’ On video. I had to manipulate the music to get it to fit. I didn’t even think it was my best effort, so who the heck knows what is good and isn’t. I get the music for those from Artlist.IO. My “Creed Bratton- a Pam Beesley Remix” is 42 minutes long and is a soundtrack bed for a Mary Pickford silent movie. The soundtrack is all by the same artist, the BPM is steady and the same for the movie’s timing, so I really had to be careful with that one.
Anyway, thanks again and sorry this was rather long.
I think MAT confirmed in an interview that he mixed or mastered using cassette.
would you do a standing on the corner tutorial?
yo brother. I'll add them to the list!
So true
you've got something...
Thank you! If you like MAT I have more coming!
i can feel him in this video
great!
Thanks for watching the video bro! Appreciate it!
I’m on logic ! What’s the best way to recreate that guitar flutter/ delay ping pong sound ? I saw the chords get chopped but what’s the best to emulate that whole sound using logic ?
Unfortunately, I am not a Logic user. But maybe you can find a way to automate the LR rate.
Damn I’ve been lookin for something like this forever. Thank you 🙏
appreciate it man! Any other artists you want me to tackle?
@@brokenenglishprod Maybe Parannoul? They're a shoegaze artist but they only use VST's according to one of their few interviews. Thanks dude, love the channel a lot really inspiring!
@@MisterMagpieSongs awesome! thank you for the suggestion! I will look into them
bro made peak
los amo csmrrrr... gracias
No problem!
finallyyyy i was waiting for this for a long time and im not disappointed as always 🥰
appreciate it man! i hope the recording did not ruin your experience too much :(
@@brokenenglishprod not really because i focused more on how you made the sound more than how it sounded if that makes sense
Thanks for sharing! If you put in more effort, I am sure it would have turned out better! I think it’s good for level 1 Mid air thief
This was my best effort at the time hahaha. Will definitely re-visit to make another track in a similar style. Thanks for watching!
this sounds exactly like the walls i can't break down by Asher? is that you or was it stolen?
He stole my music hahaha. I’m trying to report him.
@@brokenenglishprod that sucks man. the song on spotify says it features the official mid air thief so idk what that's about
Yeah I don’t know what that is about. It’s mad. I like how Mid Air Thief himself gives no fucks as well
@@brokenenglishprod i bet he just made mid air the the featured artist and mid air thief just didn't notice or bother to change it
Good stuff
Appreciate it!
jian shen n kenny
this is awesome
Thank you very much man!
Just an ableton question, but how are you trimming down the waveform (for the guitar) but it is chopping and speeding it up instead?
If I am understanding your question correctly, it’s the delay effect that is doing that. I am automating ‘Left Right’ changing it between the numbers.
you should've put some flutter on that guitar, otherwise thats really good
Oooooh good shout brother