FLOATING & FILLING OUT WITH BONDING | A BRIEF INTRODUCTION
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In this video we will take a look at some of the very basics of floating and building out hollows with a Darby.
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cheers
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There's not much you can teach me Kirk, but I still watch your videos right through, love em mate, you deserve all the success that's heading your way! Keep it up buddy 👌👌
You can always learn something new mate no matter how long you've been plastering.
Bonding is a great product to work with, I'm in my 46th year of plastering now and well before fireline boards came out we used to bond and skim concrete ceilings in blocks of flats, get the Bonding flat and rubbed up then whilst still tacky apply the finishing coat so the Bonding would take the finish with it for a great finish.
Best plastering vids on TH-cam keep it up mate
Very kind to say mate cheers
Im an amateur learning on my kitchen, these videos have helped me a lot. Thanks.
Great videos as always Kirk. Always helpful when I come across some issues. Seem like a great guy too 👍🏻
Likely the best channel now on plastering on the tube. Anyone looking to learn can’t do better really
Kirk l am a77 year old retired plasterer Years ago we used to fix bb lath over the joists apply a pricking up coat of metal lathing plaster then form screeds and rule it in before skimming I think this was done to fire proof the ceiling Excellent video very professional
really enjoyed this video, thanks. Kieron did great and i hope to see him progress over future videos
Your Such a Talented Plasterer and it's such a pleasure to see your passing on your knowledge on to the young man we need more tradesman like you taking your time out to teach and train our young lads the trade so we don't have the Polish and Albanians taking our Graft off us coz were to Lazy or Busy to give them our Time
haha! exactly what the doctor ordered. Thanks a million for this!
Another fantastic video. It was very helpful. Kieran is going to be one hell of a plasterer considering thats his second ceiling. Always good to have a bit of banter at work! Thank you.
Cheers Paul
Nice one again for the little tips. Was good to see the difference between both 1st coats that you each put on.
Yes mate, think we might do abit more on kyran just to show beginners what to expect.
Cheers Dale, have a great day mate
“Gonna need a window here, lads!” 😂😂😂
They watch my videos aswell so they will see this 🤣🤣
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Always the first video I watch on the way to work in morning! Keep up the good work matey, love it 👍
Have a good day mate
Interesting to learn more about bonding. Kieron did a good job, he will be after a pay rise now!
Good Teacher 👏
Again Kirk great vidio help so many people out with these tips and tricks keep them up pal 👌👍
Happy to help Rhys
Great job 👍
Nice video Kirk cheers mate!
You are a very good communicator- just know that!
Quality content mate 👍
Loving seeing the progress with keirian. The lads coming on well , another day at the office . Kirk, sum boy 👍
Thanks marty, he's getting there
You get a lovely finish when plastering over bonding
Another fantastic & interesting video Kirk . Have you ever had anything funny happen with flicking water near a ceiling rose or wetting in near live sockets?.
Hey Kirk, any chance of a van tour? to see what you carry day to day ect?
Where is your eye protection! I need you for all your wonderful tips! 😂 great video, thank you!
Fantastic video again buddy. I laughed at the "everyone's mingling into one" bit, as I'm someone, among the majority of the country I imagine, who is fully on board with what you are saying!
Go on Kyran lad. He did a bloody fantastic effort there.
And fantastic job levelling out that bow in the ceiling Kirk. I'm shocked they paid you extra for that when surely a couple of packers under the plasterboard is quicker and far cheaper?
used the bond and then finish approach on a wall with a big hollow in it. worked brilliantly.
Cheers for the beer mate 👌
Brilliant
amazing content mate , please upload more sand and cement videos .
Thanks!
Great video Kirk lad. I would really like to see you do a video on a vaulted / sloped ceiling please mate , and I’ll get the beers in.
Leave it with me my mate
thank you !
Great videos. Never thought I could spend so much time watching plaster dry. I recently did a ceiling with a big hollow like this one. I did the bonding and for a number of reasons (too knackered mainly, I am 72) didn’t skim it until the following morning. I was expecting the worst but it went on just fine. I put it down the fact I was using not regular board Finish but Easy Fill 60. Keep them coming.
Did you skim the whole ceiling with easyfill Chris?
@Onthetrowel No, it was a water damaged patch about 3x2m.
@@Onthetrowel 😆
Hi mate enjoy watching your video’s your presentation is first class. I am looking for a plaster for a small kitchen extension if you are any where near L34. Prescot.
Cracking content captin n the youngun haveing a go with a hangover lol
Cheers Ron, they have to learn the hard Way sometimes 🤣
Another great video Kirk 😊 Quick question though I have always keyed hardwall and bonding and it’s a pain in the backside with the bits coming off into the skim coat. Do you treat hardwall like bonding. No key as long as you do it in the same set. Also thumbs up for the rest of the tips, keep em coming 😊
Excellent Video again kidda,I do chuckle,that running water bit made me need a piss 🤣🤣
Kyran always does something, he usually burps or farts or gets a phone call or something and I just edit it out... the running tap was to long sk it had to stay in 🙈
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good video again kirk ! could you stick thermal boards with just instastik expanding foam ?
Great channel, Kirk. Carry on with the Elvis songs too ! 😊👍
More to come!
@@Onthetrowel 👍 😁
A good bit of bonding it's the bits the customer's don't see.its nice to see someone do it the same way I do things. Working on a Sunday you must like punishment or did the wife kick you out for the day.👍
Another great vid to watch on me armchair with a cold red bull. Was away quoting a media wall build in Glasgow yesterday but off today. Ceiling looks great and the lads doing well ☺ Just flingin' my two cents in...I put bonding coat on and rule off and when setting/still slimey I zip over it with a medium coarse sponge float to uniform it and it gives it a 'micro key' all over it for want of a better word. Just something Ive found works for me but as you say, many ways to skin a cat. Hope yous are having a good day 🍻👍
Rchard, what make of sponge float do you use? I get mine from B&Q of all places but I really rate them 👍🏻
@@kadzo1000 Hi, I've only used Refina, no particular reason, am always open to trying a different brand, but I loathe to give my money to B&Q they're trade schemes are a joke. Are they their own brand?
@@rich69694 Yes unfortunately I think it's there own brand, I've tried a few brands in the past and had problems with all (except B&Q's) for leaving bits of rubber in the wall after just a few uses.
Agreed only use B&Q if desperate 🤣
@@kadzo1000 Hi Kenny, yeah I get the odd little piece coming off but has taken a long time for that starting to happen. Could do with being replaced now tbh but I only use sponge for bonding coat not top coat so never really a problem for me if a little piece comes off. I'll have a look in B&Q next time am in. As much as I hate them it's still the handiest place where I am to get plaster, plasterboard,and CLS timber, but I try limit it to that.
Do you find letting the bonding go completely off pulls in a lot faster then putting finish plaster on when you get the dark patches? Another great video aswell👌
Great vid as always mate most of the ceilings and walls I do on brand new work u can put a straight edge across it and get your hand behind it on the joins I've come to the conclusion no body can build a flat wall or ceiling any more 🤣
Hear! Hear! 🤣
Loving all the videos… great tips … one quick question pal, what sbr to water ratio do you advise for skimming walls?
Sorry Kirk, I meant to ask this question along with my last one.
With bonding, do you have to give it time to suck in before you trowel or darby it flat? I sometimes find after I put bonding on it just sort of moves about a bit?
Cheer Kirk
im a beginner diyer , can you also use a darby in place of a speedskim on walls ?
If the name's Kirk, the plasterings good. You and Giordano alike, better than college these vids are👍
Fantastc videos, Kirk - I'm a keen DIYer and find them really useful.. I do have a question though. If you had a ceiling which had a mixture of new plasterboard and old (painted) lathe and plaster - how would you prep it? Would you use neat SBR on the new plasterboard and then something else on the painted lathe and plaster?
Max, I would do it all because you want your plaster to go off evenly, so by painting on SBR or PVA on the whole ceiling you minimise different backgrounds going of at different times, even more so if you a DIYer 👍🏻
@@kadzo1000 Thanks Kenny - I'll give SBR a go... Much appreciated!
nice lid
cheers mate im an old git but would like a go at home to do up spare room as it has lots of wall and celling issues. cheers Hic!%
Let e know how you get on mate
Thanks
Thank you very much mate
That poor lad was more hungover than he was letting on 😅
Potential question for Sunday or now haha? Would you ever try and build an area like that with multi finish. If not, why not mate. Cheers Kirk
You could do but it ripples when you put it on thick, also bonding is lighter so less chance of it falling off due to being to heavy
I never key bonding either and never had a problem
I have had the skim bubble up going over bonding before and found sponge floating it sorts that out
Alright Kirk, what size Darby have you got, 4 foot by the looks of it? I wanna get one but a 6 footer seems too big. Cheers matey
Yes mate, the one I use daily is 4foot.
@@Onthetrowel nice one bud, don’t really get on with my feather edge so think that’ll be much better. Top man
Hi can you give a link to where you get a darby.thanks
There you go pal
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I've seen them in Wickes
Another great video kirk. For the lads 2nd ceiling he's done really well. Will you be doing more videos on sand and cement?
Yes mate... just laying a bit of ground work
Who boarded the ceiling Kirk,I know times are hard,but I would have posted them a few dry wall screws 😳
Can't mention any names mate but I was thinking the same, I mentioned it but apparently there were pipes forbade boiler and lots of wires and supplies for the conservatory that's going on the back so they said put more screws in at your own risk 🤷♂️
I get all the best jobs mate 🤣
Glad I'm not the only one who thought that
just wondering how much that job coast ?
I suppose you could charge anywhere from £200 to £500 mate
What trowels do you use
Good video been in the game 42 years still going . Love watching it as much as doing it.
Now nearly 64
When floating always remember that a Derby is for price work a straight edge is for day work 🙂.
On price I knew fellas that used to just freehand everything, look all right from my house... I've seen some wild walls 😳
…and I am a sparky taking a break from doing paper work
Dont mention darbys in front of kiz lol oj buddy
Still know idea why you're skimming the whole ceiling the gib board is already smooth we don't skim the whole ceiling in nz or aus and our ceilings are avarage 450 sqm.. use to level 5 ceilings but now the standard is 4
Thanks
Thank you sir, your a gentleman
@@Onthetrowel . My Pleasure. Your videos are a life line while renovating my daughters period (1890) ish house!.
@333tuberob your profile picture looks like the snowdon summit with Crib Goch in the background
@@Onthetrowel Snowden summit - Absolutely spot on. Me and a bunch of lads pushed our bikes to the top, then SLOWLY descended. Sorry to get back to plastering but as a beginner my worry is a wall that is so big, the first coat will start going off behind me before I reach the end. I know you have a video about the rolling approach (with a clever tick box matrix ) but what about just one wall? Does the same principal apply? Joy!
Yes you could do it that way or just buy a few sachets of Extratime mate.
Little yellow sachets that slow the setting times down