Gohan LIED About Training To Achieve BEAST Form

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
  • Dragon ball is a franchise full of incredible characters. Some well written, and some not so much.
    Today let's delve into the dissapointing character work around Son Gohan and his Acquiring of The Gohan Beast form.
    I will be using clips and references from the Dragon Ball Super Superhero movie to make my point, along with proving wrong the claims that gohan has been training in secret.
    Enjoy
    #dragonballsuper2018 #gohan #dragonballsuper #gohanbeast #dragonballsupersuperhero #orangepiccolo #dragonball #beastgohan

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  • @thespectresociety
    @thespectresociety  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    No Offence to anyone, but i refuse to accept that gohan actually earned that form, and the proof is in the video with the clips i added. We see clear evidence in this movie that IF gohan was even training, then somehow he trained less than his 3 Year Old daughter and has worse senses than he does. Someone that pathetic instantly gained the powers to match Ultra instinct Goku? Really? Sorry but no.
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    • @deathskull1445
      @deathskull1445 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not only it wasn't earned, but it's also just a reclor of super saiyan 2 Gohan in cell saga but now instead of golden hair it's boring white hair with power to mach ultra instinct goku but also almost made goku lose ultra instinct for a split moment before regaining ui. No offense twords anyone who likes beast Gohan but saying it was earned is objectively wrong, it's just a reclor of super saiyan 2, plus wouldn't it have made sense if pan died in the moive instead of piccolo almost dying? If pan died then it would make sense for a rage boost like beast, BUT NOW HE CAN JUST USE IT WHENEVER?! and of course thru can bring back Pam by using the dragon balls!

  • @Izzmonster
    @Izzmonster 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    I'm a HUGE Gohan fan, but a secret hidden power that just makes you stronger than others around you is never earned. Like, Broly didn't earn his power, he's just "Da Legendary Guy".

    • @President_Shin
      @President_Shin 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dragon ball is in a terrible way

    • @Izzmonster
      @Izzmonster 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @President_Shin should've ended at Cell

    • @El3ctr0Lun4
      @El3ctr0Lun4 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      And what’s even worse, Gohan can just train for a while and reach levels higher than the god forms, when the whole point of the god forms was that they were so far above anything that regular mortals could achieve on their own. Yet Gohan just does it through training.
      Also, isn’t it a bit insulting to the fans to just tell us that Gohan trained in secret, just so that they don’t put in the effort of showing us his struggles? Think about how much we’ve seen Goku train throughout DB, DBZ and DBS to get where he is now. But with Gohan… nah, he just did it in secret and became the strongest ever, no need to see it.

    • @Izzmonster
      @Izzmonster 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @El3ctr0Lun4 Agree 100%, it was better in Cell when we watched gohan train with goku and achieve SSJ training with Goku.

    • @purplebackground
      @purplebackground 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@Izzmonster, nah, after the buu saga.

  • @nathan9368
    @nathan9368 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    My theory is Gohan did train on his own and it was not good enough his training was more remembering the basics and, his fighting strategy and his transformations ssj ssj3 and ultimate form. By know Gohan would know he gets stronger when he is pissed off so how he got the beast transformations was not his power but the power he had inside of him when he was a child

  • @Davids_dojo-p9u
    @Davids_dojo-p9u 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    bro didn't train has hard as Goku and Vegeta and he was able to go toe to toe with Pui Gohan is cool but broo wakeee up bro keeps turning on and off with his training and keeps getting away with it

  • @Amirisphere
    @Amirisphere 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He was consistently training between the Goku Black and Zamasu arc. He could've done his own training in that time.

  • @rednaxela5960
    @rednaxela5960 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I always say this regarding beast, in the manga he was not actually weak for so long, its just that the super hero movie is missing some context. He didnt earn beast sure, but people love to undersell how strong he was a few months before it, he remained consistient in training since pre top up to at minimum moro, its sometime during granolah when he stops because he went hard on his studies and abandoned teaining for a bit. He matched kefla in the top, which is insane considering shes a fusion and each fusee at their respective top transformation is ssj goku level(i think the anime had them stronger matching ssj3 in their peaks, i cant recall though) and even though it was with piccolo, he was beating an android that copied both of their abilities plus many more, had infinite energy, could steal ki, and was enhanced by moro before arriving. People act like he dropped back to pre resureccion f strength then suddenly caught up to goku, when in reality he was still pretty strong during the moro arc, still definitely way below goku and vegeta, but still strong enough to where 1 rage form, even if an undeserved, is believable that it can reach gokus level. Remember, gohan as a kid was capable of surpassing goku who had been training alot, with no training at all due to his rage boosts being an anomaly in terms of effictivness. Call it undeserved sure, but its not THAT bad scalingwise considering its just always how gohan has been. May be a bit of my gohan and piccolo bias, but I dont think gohans "falling off in training then regaining power suddenly because piccolo made him" arc is going to he used ever again, people didnt like this even though he didnt stop training for that long and toyo is a db fan as much as the rest of us, so hed likely listen to the community and make gohan train consistiently, even if its just a bit to where hes maintaining his power like during moro.

  • @Denzler1718
    @Denzler1718 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wouldn't have much of a problem with Gohan's Beast Mode, except with it he's apparently stronger than MUI Goku, UE Vegeta, Orange Piccolo, and controlled Super Saiyan Broly, without putting in even a fraction of the training each of them put in to get that powerful. It's so undeserved that it hurts. Even Broly was putting in leagues more training than Gohan, and he only really started training seriously after the Dragon Ball Super Broly movie.

    • @thespectresociety
      @thespectresociety  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Denzler1718 and people say "but he's always done this, he has potential"

  • @SonZackSSJ9k
    @SonZackSSJ9k 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Gohan did train he just didn’t train for Beast specifically. Hes trained since RoF to ToP which is a 2 year gap in between and he wasn’t even Blue level, he capped at SSJ2. Then there’s the fact he started slacking again even right before Super Hero, with this in mind, Gohan didn’t even get much stronger or weaker since the fight with Moro while in that arc, Goku was knocking around Saganbo in Base alone, the same amped Saganbo who negged Ultimate Gohan.

  • @gabethebabe3337
    @gabethebabe3337 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Gohan always sucked. He barely have 10 full years of actual training. Most of his powerups have come strictly from ass pull forms that were given to him instead of earned through work.

  • @PhoenixIs-Him
    @PhoenixIs-Him 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    But then again (I’m not glazin Gohan) but I think that he turns off ki sense because he feels he is encroaching

  • @ichirakuramen4985
    @ichirakuramen4985 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    didnt shenron js give them the power when they wished for power?

  • @tay14741
    @tay14741 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    bros using the English dub in a dragon ball debate 💀

    • @abdullahking7611
      @abdullahking7611 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      English dub is the Main Dub its the dub that everyone grew up with

  • @bboytroy16
    @bboytroy16 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Yall tweaking, gohan said it himself before the tournament of power that he was gonna be training and that he was gonna achieve power other than ssj... Pay attention, he was already on ssj blue level and climbing before this incident

    • @President_Shin
      @President_Shin 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dude, “potential” lol ok

    • @thespectresociety
      @thespectresociety  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@bboytroy16 then explain the clips in this video.
      1. How did his ki sense get so bad he couldn't recognise piccolo?
      "he was distracted!" if that's your argument. Explain how he still couldn't tell after transforming into super saiyan?
      2. Trained with who? Alone? When? Even piccolo didn't know. Pan, his daughter who shares the house, also doesn't know.
      Explain yourself. I won't just accept a statement without him showing to us that he did actually train. Meanwhile this video has evidence that there's No Way he actually trained enough

    • @bboytroy16
      @bboytroy16 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @thespectresociety 🤣 I get what your saying but the ki thing was mostly for humor or to show he takes after his father in some sense, and he pretty much was training through out the tournament arc, morrow arc, and after keep in mind they may not have showed everything so hopefully it will be shown in fillers when the anime returns, remember he only trained for a few days before t.o.p to get back to God level so imagine through all these arcs how much he could have improved it's called potential for a reason

    • @thespectresociety
      @thespectresociety  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@bboytroy16 more like ass pull at this point cuz wtf 😂 also I HATE how dragon ball would make such joke scenes. It ruins characters so badly.
      Imagine presenting goku as mature from his childhood and not knowing what kissing is when he has 2 kids?
      Showing gohan as pathetic then giving him a form on par with ultra instinct?
      What's next? Yamcha was playing dumb? He's the real god of the cosmos?

    • @bboytroy16
      @bboytroy16 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @thespectresociety lmao possibly but facts cause you have beerus 1 shot a ssj3 and another scene where krillin is blocking a ki wave from ssj blue..... nonsense even if it wasn't full power

  • @ohhellwhereami2574
    @ohhellwhereami2574 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bro is toxic 😂 , you're one of db tik tok fans when they realize gohan actually trained and not like i don't even watch my own show fan 💀

    • @BallisticBlaze24
      @BallisticBlaze24 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If he did, they wouldn't need to make gohans beast form an ass pull. So even if he did train, it would be better if he didn't train at all rather than training just to get an ass pull

    • @ohhellwhereami2574
      @ohhellwhereami2574 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@BallisticBlaze24 gohan is gohan this form is metaphor for his inner beast being unleashed don't know how that's not making sense gohan isn't average hybrid saiyan from birth...