You did a great job got right to the point, thanks. To many people like to talk to much. Sometimes that’s needed, but most of the time I think people just want to hear themselves. Again great job.
Well anyone that has a TH-cam channel likes to hear themselves talk! Hahaha I appreciate your comment. Hope to see you around the channel. Many more mower videos coming soon!
I use just a plain paper clip, stick it in both ends of the wire works fine and like you said if you got to take it to the shop unplug the paper clip and put it back in the switch
The seat safety wouldn’t bother me so much but mine on my zforce 54” is apparently so sensitive if I hit a decent sized bump moving at moderate speed it will kill the pto every time. So annoying and I plan to disengage it for that reason. If I can figure it out that is, think mine has 4 or five wires if I’m not mistaken
FYI guys. If your seat switch has the incoming wires (often more than 2) encapsulated in a plug of some sort, simply unplugging it may not allow the motor to run. There is another switch in the plug itself that either opens or closes the circuit so that you cannot defeat the switch. It may be necessary to either cut the wires or else connect the wires to make the motor start and run.
Or just unscrew the safety switch under the seat. It acts as a push button. Once out, wrap some duck tape around it to temporarily keep the button down.
Can the seat pressure switch cause starting problem. My Toro zero turn sometimes just clicks. So far I've been able to move the arms back and forth and it will start.
With my John Deere I cut the three wires after pulling the Jumper wire out that is on the seat switch. This leaves three wires. I was then not sure which two wires to tie together and tape them. One is a ground wire right? One is mostly white with a thin black stripe, one is mostly black with a white stripe and one is solid black.
We have a 2013 Magnum 2250 Dixie Chopper that has a seat delay switch which goes out about twice a year. This is in addition to or extra to the under the seat safety seat switch, they are not the same thing. We would like to know if you've had any experience bypassing this switch or know anything about them they have no markings what so ever and are 3 pronged. When this delay switch goes out the mower will start but can not be driven.
I don’t have any experience with the Dixie choppers. Haven’t even sat on one. A wiring diagram should be able to help you out. You can figure out the switch by disconnecting it from the wires, if it acts the same as it did without you sitting on the seat then the switch is designed to close the circuit. So you just have to determine which wires to connect together. You could try connecting all three together and see what it does. May blow a fuse if it isn’t supposed to be wired like that but you can test it and see which combo works
If you ever find a way to bypass the module Please do let me know It seems most old Toro Z turns got issues with that module. Thank you for your video. Will surely try to monkey that switch for the fun of it.
I have a Craftsman riding mower and I tried just removing the 2 wires to the seat, no help and then I tried jumping the 2 together. Neither one would bypass my switch? Any tips? Thanks
Does anyone know if I bypass the safety switch for the blades on a 32” Wright stander b, will it mess up the transmission hydros ? Any help would be greatly appreciated
Have a Toro Zmaster and a switch may be my problem. Key turn, battery, plugs, solenoid and starter are all NEW. Carb fuel and air filters are all fine. Can that under seat safety switch solely be the cause of not starting? Would there be another switch causing 'no start'? Any help is appreciated.
I don’t know if the seat switch would allow the starter to crank. Is the engine cranking? Have you checked the oil level? There is an oil level sensor that will shutdown the engine on a lot of engines.
How do you disconnect all the safety switches on a zero-turn I'm having electricity when I can't find out which one I can't get it to start and I'm bypassing to see if I could get it going I'm the only one operation zero turn
Hahaha man this was the first thing I did on my toro... I couldnt even lean over to avoid a low hanging branch without the dam thing backfiring and dying hahah! EPIC!
I've got a 2015 Toro ZX4800 and my switch must be messed up cause the engine spins but wont fire. Though I have 4 wires to the switch along with a connector with the bundle of wires that is a female little plug. The machine has 10 hours and warranty is gone and $78 an hour for dealer labor.
Hum sounds like a goofy setup. I’m sure it is grounding out the ignition if it spins but won’t fire. I don’t expect it would be super complicated. Try unplugging the connector and see if it fires. If it doesn’t, then wires need to be connect to complete the circuit.
Thank you for responding. Im gonna keep working on it. I hate the machine any type of slope she nose dives. Put bar tires on and wider larger rims same. Soon as she fires she's gone to be replaced by a tractor.
I have a question. ..I have a cub cadet RZT 50 and the PTO stopped while I was mowing. I think the problem is the is a red and black wire with a inline fuse and one end isn't attached to anything. I think it goes to the solenoid but not sure where. Have any idea?
I’m looking at the wiring diagram for your mower. Is your fuse good? You will need a multimeter to measure for the 12VDC at the PTO connector (blue wire) this wire goes through your handle switches and seat switch. We need to ensure these switches are working correctly.
I expect this mower will last several seasons with decent care. th-cam.com/users/postUgkx1VWTrayKBdCKAjzAcZ_Eg4dhHTae3LkN also recommend Also, I ran across the problem with it not starting the 2nd time I used it. There is a safety switch which is pushed in by the chute or mulching piece being attached to the deck. I took the cover off and it wouldn't start. Put it back on, no problem. It takes only a minute with 2 easily accessible wingnuts and no tools. This mower starts up first crank each time and it is a joy to use. It also mows in reverse by putting the key to the reverse area after starting and pushing in the triangular button. It will stay in reverse mode until you turn it off. All in all, for my homeowner needs, I really like this mower-and at 70 bucks a cut here in Miami, it's already more than 1/3 paid for itself in a month.
Got Toro zero turn, ran fine for 14 mins then dies. Won't start again. Gas is full Battery is 4 months & has 12.6VDC with DVM What do you think the problem will be? The above tip was too easy.
Does the mower crank over? If it doesn’t, then you have a switch or fuse tripped somewhere (handlebars, blade PTO, seat switch). If it does crank over, you need 3 things for it fire. Fuel, air, and spark. If it ran for 14 minutes, I would think your air and spark would be good and I would check the fuel line for flow. Disconnect the fuel line right at the carburetor and make sure it is flowing fuel. It can gum up pretty easily. Report back or research some videos on how to diagnose your problem. I do not have a video like that but I will make one soon.
It's a Toro Timecutter Z4220. Do you know where I can get a PDF service manual for free or block diagrams? Way too heavy to push this with my little daughter. Us women are not as strong. This mower is heavy.
A simple google search of the timecutter wiring diagram will show great wiring diagrams. Check fuses first, then make sure each of the switches I said are working properly or depress where they need to be. Should be a simple fix.
i have a toro 4200 zero turn...it turns off after i engage the handles or the blades any ideas?....i already put a new key switch voltage regulator starter solenoid nothing is fixing it...if i disconnect the plug that goes to the voltage regulator and it turns on and drives but when i engage blades it wont work and i can only turn off the mower if i put that connecter back on there
@@TheDurbinCompound hey if your on line, reason I looked t your video is because my zero turn starts fine but everytime I close the handles or turn on the blades it shuts off
That’s a weird one. It may be a bad seat switch. Not making the circuit. So when you close the handles or engage the blades, it thinks you’re not on the seat
I own a large grass cutting business and I find it very irresponsible for you to explain how to bypass a safety feature on a machine that can seriously harm and even kill you just by bypassing this safety feature or any other one for that matter. You should not educate people on how to become more unsafe but educate them on how to be more safe. Shame on you buddy.
Thanks for your comment Mike. I do agree with your concerns. The modification is made at the owners own risk. I, myself, don’t need this safety feature when I am in the field by myself.
I totally agree with mike dominick on this issue. In fact my Dad who is no longer with us had removed the switch on one of our tractor's and added a jumper bypassing the seat pressure switch. When I took over using it I purchased a new safety and installed it in case I sell the tractor [ To You Know Who.] Yes people who don't read the manuals or just don't take the time to think before acting and are not so mechanically inclined! Just the sensible thing to do IMO!
Thanks Don_ECHOguy........Have_At_IT. Geez man calling me an idiot really for preaching safety....you are obviously not in a position in your life where you would be the person responsible in notifying the parents or next of kin that their loved one is in the hospital or worse....and judging by your comments to my posts you would probably be the reason that someone responsible would have to deliver the bad news. The only idiot here would be yourself and actually I would lecture you in person. Safety is priority 1 and I make this clear to my employees everyday. Good luck to you in life...sounds like you will need it.
@@mikedominick2172 Not a problem mate. There are a lot of inexperienced folks out there with equipment who need some help and knowledge and they don't even know it.
It worked thank you I struggled for 2 day. Till you came along. Great video
You did a great job got right to the point, thanks. To many people like to talk to much. Sometimes that’s needed, but most of the time I think people just want to hear themselves. Again great job.
Well anyone that has a TH-cam channel likes to hear themselves talk! Hahaha I appreciate your comment. Hope to see you around the channel. Many more mower videos coming soon!
Amen and amen.
Thank you! Well done explaining both type circuits.
Yes! Please include all the details! Good video.
Great! Thanks. Can you show what to do so the pot won’t shut off when I back up when mower is on. I have a Troy bilt. Thanks
I use just a plain paper clip, stick it in both ends of the wire works fine and like you said if you got to take it to the shop unplug the paper clip and put it back in the switch
The seat safety wouldn’t bother me so much but mine on my zforce 54” is apparently so sensitive if I hit a decent sized bump moving at moderate speed it will kill the pto every time. So annoying and I plan to disengage it for that reason. If I can figure it out that is, think mine has 4 or five wires if I’m not mistaken
FYI guys. If your seat switch has the incoming wires (often more than 2) encapsulated in a plug of some sort, simply unplugging it may not allow the motor to run. There is another switch in the plug itself that either opens or closes the circuit so that you cannot defeat the switch. It may be necessary to either cut the wires or else connect the wires to make the motor start and run.
Awesome! Thanks for the addition to the videos!
Excellent... Was pretty sure.... But you laid it out great... Thanx Bro... ✌🏻😎👍🏻🇺🇸
Appreciate your comment. That’s what this channel is all about!
Earned my subscription. Thanks very much.
Just what I. Needed to know. Thanx.
I used a 10 amp fuse to connect the wires. For me it was quicker than making a jumper.
That’s a good way to do it as well!
How about the park brake switch, do you have a bypass for that?
Very helpful
You the man
I hate safety switches! Tks for the video!
Me too! I also hate the reverse switches where it shuts down the PTO
Or just unscrew the safety switch under the seat. It acts as a push button. Once out, wrap some duck tape around it to temporarily keep the button down.
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I did that. But now my battery keeps dying.
Can the seat pressure switch cause starting problem. My Toro zero turn sometimes just clicks. So far I've been able to move the arms back and forth and it will start.
Yess
With my John Deere I cut the three wires after pulling the Jumper wire out that is on the seat switch. This leaves three wires. I was then not sure which two wires to tie together and tape them. One is a ground wire right? One is mostly white with a thin black stripe, one is mostly black with a white stripe and one is solid black.
You bumped your gums just enough to get to the heart of the video! Now I can fix the seat on my Cub Cadet ZT. New subscriber too!
We have a 2013 Magnum 2250 Dixie Chopper that has a seat delay switch which goes out about twice a year. This is in addition to or extra to the under the seat safety seat switch, they are not the same thing. We would like to know if you've had any experience bypassing this switch or know anything about them they have no markings what so ever and are 3 pronged. When this delay switch goes out the mower will start but can not be driven.
I don’t have any experience with the Dixie choppers. Haven’t even sat on one. A wiring diagram should be able to help you out. You can figure out the switch by disconnecting it from the wires, if it acts the same as it did without you sitting on the seat then the switch is designed to close the circuit. So you just have to determine which wires to connect together. You could try connecting all three together and see what it does. May blow a fuse if it isn’t supposed to be wired like that but you can test it and see which combo works
If you ever find a way to bypass the module
Please do let me know
It seems most old Toro Z turns got issues with that module.
Thank you for your video.
Will surely try to monkey that switch for the fun of it.
what if your mower has three wires instead of just the two ? would you just connect all three together ?
I have a Craftsman riding mower and I tried just removing the 2 wires to the seat, no help and then I tried jumping the 2 together. Neither one would bypass my switch? Any tips? Thanks
Does anyone know if I bypass the safety switch for the blades on a 32” Wright stander b, will it mess up the transmission hydros ? Any help would be greatly appreciated
No
Have a Toro Zmaster and a switch may be my problem. Key turn, battery, plugs, solenoid and starter are all NEW. Carb fuel and air filters are all fine. Can that under seat safety switch solely be the cause of not starting? Would there be another switch causing 'no start'? Any help is appreciated.
I don’t know if the seat switch would allow the starter to crank. Is the engine cranking? Have you checked the oil level? There is an oil level sensor that will shutdown the engine on a lot of engines.
How do you disconnect all the safety switches on a zero-turn I'm having electricity when I can't find out which one I can't get it to start and I'm bypassing to see if I could get it going I'm the only one operation zero turn
Dexter have simplicity courier zero turn release park brake it will die replace park brake switch same things it will die.thanks
shit my mower stsrting shutting off with the blade not engaged when im gettin up..unsure what thats about...any help?
explain how to make that jumper
My Bobcat zero turn has two wires with 12 volts with key on. So, I guess I just twist them together?
I need a pedal extender idea for Cub Cadet small tractor
Are you needing the pedal to be closer to you? Like putting a phone on the car seat so the kids can drive?
What is the connector you used to complete the circuit at 4:30 called? I need to buy one but don't know what its called
It's a jumper he made. Just two female spade connectors.
Hahaha man this was the first thing I did on my toro... I couldnt even lean over to avoid a low hanging branch without the dam thing backfiring and dying hahah! EPIC!
I know! The John Deere riders can't even back up without shutting the blades off. What a waste of time. That would be the first switch I killed!
WTF? Even backing up? have they ever mowed any lawn on planet earth? lol
Yeah and it's JD. Like come on! Safety trumps everything remember! Even common sense!
wish you had a video on how to bypass the saftey switches to mow in reverse
If I had a lawn tractor with that safety feature, I would absolutely have a video on it! That has got to be the worst!
I've got a 2015 Toro ZX4800 and my switch must be messed up cause the engine spins but wont fire. Though I have 4 wires to the switch along with a connector with the bundle of wires that is a female little plug. The machine has 10 hours and warranty is gone and $78 an hour for dealer labor.
Hum sounds like a goofy setup. I’m sure it is grounding out the ignition if it spins but won’t fire. I don’t expect it would be super complicated. Try unplugging the connector and see if it fires. If it doesn’t, then wires need to be connect to complete the circuit.
Thank you for responding. Im gonna keep working on it. I hate the machine any type of slope she nose dives. Put bar tires on and wider larger rims same. Soon as she fires she's gone to be replaced by a tractor.
Mine dont do nothing when I tun on the key not even the hours pop up ??
mines got 3 wires...which do i join pls? Where to buy the clip ends? thnx!
I'm not sure what the 3 wires would all be for. It must go through another switch after OR before. Try unhooking all three wires and see what it does.
TheDurbinCompound
you could also put a multi-meter to the switch terminals (continuity) and see what is happening when you activate the switch.
My wire assembly has a white, green, 2 yellow and White wire with black on it dont know which to connect to what? Advice?
Oh goodness. Do you have a schematic for your mower?
No its a craftsman z550 I can try and find one online
What about electric ride_ons
That's an awesome way to trick the dealer. As long as, you know.... they don't watch this video.
Unugging mine works but then the mower shuts off when I disengage the parking brake.
I have a question. ..I have a cub cadet RZT 50 and the PTO stopped while I was mowing. I think the problem is the is a red and black wire with a inline fuse and one end isn't attached to anything. I think it goes to the solenoid but not sure where. Have any idea?
I’m in! Let’s figure this one out! Do you have a multimeter? Are you able to see if the wire is truly hooked up or not
@@TheDurbinCompound I know it's hooked up somewhere but it's taped up with the rest of the wires. Could I send you a pic of it
I’m looking at the wiring diagram for your mower. Is your fuse good? You will need a multimeter to measure for the 12VDC at the PTO connector (blue wire) this wire goes through your handle switches and seat switch. We need to ensure these switches are working correctly.
@@TheDurbinCompound the fuse is good. I have a multimeter but I'm not real sure how to use it. ..lol
Hummm.....well TH-cam will show you how!!
Need video to replace seat using a generic seat. Bad Boy seat back broke and I need to replace. OEM seat is over $500.00
I got 3 wires. 2 brown 1 red. Any ideas?
Same
Mine is a four wire switch?????
Two circuits?! I’m not sure. Try disconnecting all the wires and see what it does! Might need the schematics!
Just wanted to thank you I almost spent $200 taking my more in guess what it was the switch under the seat
Thanks again save me some money
@1:53 how to start
Hour meter works off switch
I expect this mower will last several seasons with decent care. th-cam.com/users/postUgkx1VWTrayKBdCKAjzAcZ_Eg4dhHTae3LkN also recommend Also, I ran across the problem with it not starting the 2nd time I used it. There is a safety switch which is pushed in by the chute or mulching piece being attached to the deck. I took the cover off and it wouldn't start. Put it back on, no problem. It takes only a minute with 2 easily accessible wingnuts and no tools. This mower starts up first crank each time and it is a joy to use. It also mows in reverse by putting the key to the reverse area after starting and pushing in the triangular button. It will stay in reverse mode until you turn it off. All in all, for my homeowner needs, I really like this mower-and at 70 bucks a cut here in Miami, it's already more than 1/3 paid for itself in a month.
Got Toro zero turn, ran fine for 14 mins then dies. Won't start again.
Gas is full
Battery is 4 months & has 12.6VDC with DVM
What do you think the problem will be?
The above tip was too easy.
Does the mower crank over? If it doesn’t, then you have a switch or fuse tripped somewhere (handlebars, blade PTO, seat switch). If it does crank over, you need 3 things for it fire. Fuel, air, and spark. If it ran for 14 minutes, I would think your air and spark would be good and I would check the fuel line for flow. Disconnect the fuel line right at the carburetor and make sure it is flowing fuel. It can gum up pretty easily. Report back or research some videos on how to diagnose your problem. I do not have a video like that but I will make one soon.
TheDurbinCompound, nothing turn over.
Keyed on, only hear two clicks from the engine areas.
Always ran fine before.
Fuse, or safety interlock. Make sure blades are shut off, handles up, butt on seat. Might take some more troubleshooting with DVM
It's a Toro Timecutter Z4220.
Do you know where I can get a PDF service manual for free or block diagrams?
Way too heavy to push this with my little daughter.
Us women are not as strong. This mower is heavy.
A simple google search of the timecutter wiring diagram will show great wiring diagrams. Check fuses first, then make sure each of the switches I said are working properly or depress where they need to be. Should be a simple fix.
Just insert a blade fuse dude Lol
*normally open/normally closed
i have a toro 4200 zero turn...it turns off after i engage the handles or the blades any ideas?....i already put a new key switch voltage regulator starter solenoid nothing is fixing it...if i disconnect the plug that goes to the voltage regulator and it turns on and drives but when i engage blades it wont work and i can only turn off the mower if i put that connecter back on there
Na, ferris has like 6wires to each safety switch. No help
"ground switch". Ahhh Pass
Haha hardwire for dummies...ya u dont need to draw a diagram for that....pretty straight forward...your completing a circuit....
You have no idea what I have had to dumb down before. I just go ahead and cover all the bases!
@@TheDurbinCompound Haha for sure man! Still good videos!
@@TheDurbinCompound hey if your on line, reason I looked t your video is because my zero turn starts fine but everytime I close the handles or turn on the blades it shuts off
That’s a weird one. It may be a bad seat switch. Not making the circuit. So when you close the handles or engage the blades, it thinks you’re not on the seat
@@TheDurbinCompound I thought that after watching your video. So I jumped the seat switch and still a no go
Why unhook it.it is a safety component.if it isn't working,get a brain and fix it....................
OMG..
.STOP TALKING
STOP WATCHING
@@TheDurbinCompound I DID... DUH!
BYE
I own a large grass cutting business and I find it very irresponsible for you to explain how to bypass a safety feature on a machine that can seriously harm and even kill you just by bypassing this safety feature or any other one for that matter. You should not educate people on how to become more unsafe but educate them on how to be more safe. Shame on you buddy.
Thanks for your comment Mike. I do agree with your concerns. The modification is made at the owners own risk. I, myself, don’t need this safety feature when I am in the field by myself.
Have_At_IT lol. What “sensibilities “ are you referring to? Also please point out where in my post did I mention that I was offended....
I totally agree with mike dominick on this issue. In fact my Dad who is no longer with us had removed the switch on one of our tractor's and added a jumper bypassing the seat pressure switch. When I took over using it I purchased a new safety and installed it in case I sell the tractor [ To You Know Who.] Yes people who don't read the manuals or just don't take the time to think before acting and are not so mechanically inclined! Just the sensible thing to do IMO!
Thanks Don_ECHOguy........Have_At_IT. Geez man calling me an idiot really for preaching safety....you are obviously not in a position in your life where you would be the person responsible in notifying the parents or next of kin that their loved one is in the hospital or worse....and judging by your comments to my posts you would probably be the reason that someone responsible would have to deliver the bad news. The only idiot here would be yourself and actually I would lecture you in person. Safety is priority 1 and I make this clear to my employees everyday. Good luck to you in life...sounds like you will need it.
@@mikedominick2172 Not a problem mate. There are a lot of inexperienced folks out there with equipment who need some help and knowledge and they don't even know it.