If you are into Ambusher, rather than choosing, you should know that you could just bring both. Also add Manticore & Ethan for nastier result. As for Kirara................ let's just act as if she's never exist to begin with.
@@ReWhiteout she is a ambuser that specialize in tanking and dealing dps. But her dps is abyssal with bad up-time, and tanking with ambuser is something really stupid bcs they have -1 taunt and 0 block to begin with
Ascalon does more total damage if enemies aren't super bulky, but that damage is delayed so I don't think it matters much to even mention that. In modern content many enemies are getting more and more defence, so Mizuki will always have a big headstart. Let's look at actual numbers. Mizuki does a physical hit of roughly 3,3k and an arts hit to 2 enemies with low health roughly 2k big. So ~5,3k damage every 7 seconds. Ascalon does 2 hits of roughly 2k, immediately applying 2 stacks of talent 1 for a dot of ~220 arts per second. So 4k physical damage and after 7s you'll have 1540 arts damage as well for a total of roughly 5,5k. This is just skills, no basic attack to apply more stacks of talent 1. So just skills on paper they do similar damage, but Mizuki has a big advantage on higher defence enemies. Ascalon has a bigger advantage on larger waves of 3 or more enemies since her dot does not have an enemy limit. Additionally, Ascalon has better CC. Counterpoint: Mizuki's arts hit benefits more from spinach and spagghetti in IS than the dot of Ascalon. Winner? Both is good, just make sure that you know what you need in your current situation. Most people are not impressed with Mizuki's damage, so neither will Ascalon's damage impress either. Just pick your poison.
By this, I believe that Mizuki & Ascalon are generally the same operator especially if you're not going to use both of them anyway. But if you are like me who interested in Ambusher : Mizuki is better in terms of damage, it can reach up to 4000 damage per charge. But since his slow is worse he needs some help to stall the enemies While Ascalon may not have the biggest damage, but her slow & "poison" makes her better at solo-ing lanes. But if she face fixed movement enemies (like you see Patriot here) & of course higher DEF, it makes her harder to kill the enemy
@@kenshi3942Mizuki was also pretty relevant with IS#3, being one of the few consistent starters in SW15 and one of the few ground ops that wouldn't die to urchins (Ascalon would also be shafted by RES). He still works in 4... But at this point both of them have to compete with Ela, Taxes and Ya2... I'd imagine at base Ascalon might do more, but Mizuki can scale better (especially with ASPD, which is easiest for specialists to get, especially for IS#4).
Neat, gonna use this to prove whoever said Mizuki’s Skill 1 is overall better wrong. He’s still good against single (or double with that module) targets, but Ascalon seems better for more general uses.
Seeing the stages where Mizuki cleared faster and would've cleared if not for Ascalon DoT / lack of someone blocking for Mizuki in those instances, and having Mizuki build, glad she doesn't powercreep him, and he deals better with stat inflation. No big meta bait before Limited banner like Ines!
Honestly, love cc based ambusher. All this time i usually use s2 mizuki cuz that is the only skill with good enough crowd control. But i used ethan more oftem since she is way better at cc than mizuki. When ascalon arrive, time to bench mizuki forever.
Mizuki’s S1 is still better due to how it combos with his talent and module. Especially against a single target that the other ambushers are not able to handle.
Mizuki more in damage But ye, Ascalon fix it with big poison as well If you guys not sure who raise, you can see yourself *can raise just both for funny killing wall*
Just use one or the other if you dont have them both, and you'd be fine. A situation where you need one of them specifically i feel like would be very hard to come by and support units still exist.
would it look much different if we use x module for mizuki? that's what i generally use for s1/s2, y is more of an s3 module. thanks for the videos as always, i really like the videos showing off new units
The beginning is misleading by accident, believe. While the team screen shows modY, if you look at the deployment of Mizuki in each of the clips, the modX symbol flashes. So he is using the correct module. You can also tell because the slow effect is visually applied to enemies that enter his range (the black lines trailing behind them).
It would mean that Mizuki has a shorter interval between when the enemy is in range and when the damage occurs. (Although the overall motion time should be shorter for the Ascalon thanks to its qualities.)
@@Only_Ameen04 Ascalon also originally gained +8 ASPD. In addition, when damage occurs during the attack motion varies from character to character, and a faster attack speed does not necessarily mean faster damage generation. For example, some characters with the same 1-second motion will do damage in the first 0.3 seconds, while others will do damage in 0.7 seconds. If a character deals damage in 0.3 seconds, the motion after the damage is longer, and if a character deals damage in 0.7 seconds, the motion after the damage is shorter.
I have a suggestion for you since you can mod anything in your server on Ops about the worst Ops. Since the kit about the whole thing is Utility, I need you to test it and make a compare on the old with the mod on that ops for yourself. Talent and Skill mod is this (you know about the ops when you feel the skill is off). Talent : Expand Attack Range, Attacks inflict -15 Attack Speed to the enemy for 3 seconds. Skill 1 : The next attack deals 150% Physical damage, inflicts Freeze the target and -50% Movement speed afterwards within 4 seconds Skill 2 : Attack Speed +75. Attack inflict -50% Movement Speed and have 40% chance to inflict cold the target for 5 seconds. When I see you can mod Mudrock when you want to, I need you to test this for your own attention.
The beginning is misleading by accident, believe. While the team screen shows modY, if you look at the deployment of Mizuki in each of the clips, the modX symbol flashes. So he is using the correct module. You can also tell because the slow effect is visually applied to enemies that enter his range (the black lines trailing behind them).
So unless you are using ambusher as a boss killer(lol) Ascalon is always better. And with her s2 and s3 being better she is just straight upgrade over jelly-boy.
They're more like a sidegrade to one another mostly, with Mizuki s1 and s2 having advantages and drawbacks compared to Ascalon, but her s3 is undeniably better yeah.
eh her s3 more like weird for me the attack buff are low and the main point of that skill are for her being dodge baiter which is unusual and rarely used
The slow is insane bro, ascalon is better since you need slow to hit enemy that's you can't block as ambusher, so slow is always better regardless of dmg( since their dmg is almost the same mizuki high burst and ascalon dot)
So... the TL;DR is.... Mizuki has higher dmg output. But since he doesn't have that much crowd control, he isn't able to properly hit moving enemies, while Ascalon pretty much has a mini Mostima S3 built into her passive Then, Mizuki outperforms Ascalon in stationary/slow moving enemies, since he has high attack, high multipliers 300% physical + 180% arts (only 2 enemies) Ascalon can hit enemies more times thanks to the slow, resulting in more bleeding dmg and possibly dealing with enemies on lower health even outside her range
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If you are into Ambusher, rather than choosing, you should know that you could just bring both.
Also add Manticore & Ethan for nastier result.
As for Kirara................
let's just act as if she's never exist to begin with.
Kirara could tank with Ascalon I guess.
Just bring both, like how WIP brings both mudrocks
Kirara can play online games with me
What's wrong with Kirara? I never really use ambusher
@@ReWhiteout she is a ambuser that specialize in tanking and dealing dps. But her dps is abyssal with bad up-time, and tanking with ambuser is something really stupid bcs they have -1 taunt and 0 block to begin with
Ascalon does more total damage if enemies aren't super bulky, but that damage is delayed so I don't think it matters much to even mention that.
In modern content many enemies are getting more and more defence, so Mizuki will always have a big headstart.
Let's look at actual numbers.
Mizuki does a physical hit of roughly 3,3k and an arts hit to 2 enemies with low health roughly 2k big.
So ~5,3k damage every 7 seconds.
Ascalon does 2 hits of roughly 2k, immediately applying 2 stacks of talent 1 for a dot of ~220 arts per second.
So 4k physical damage and after 7s you'll have 1540 arts damage as well for a total of roughly 5,5k.
This is just skills, no basic attack to apply more stacks of talent 1. So just skills on paper they do similar damage, but Mizuki has a big advantage on higher defence enemies.
Ascalon has a bigger advantage on larger waves of 3 or more enemies since her dot does not have an enemy limit.
Additionally, Ascalon has better CC.
Counterpoint: Mizuki's arts hit benefits more from spinach and spagghetti in IS than the dot of Ascalon.
Winner? Both is good, just make sure that you know what you need in your current situation.
Most people are not impressed with Mizuki's damage, so neither will Ascalon's damage impress either.
Just pick your poison.
By this, I believe that Mizuki & Ascalon are generally the same operator especially if you're not going to use both of them anyway. But if you are like me who interested in Ambusher :
Mizuki is better in terms of damage, it can reach up to 4000 damage per charge. But since his slow is worse he needs some help to stall the enemies
While Ascalon may not have the biggest damage, but her slow & "poison" makes her better at solo-ing lanes. But if she face fixed movement enemies (like you see Patriot here) & of course higher DEF, it makes her harder to kill the enemy
ascalons S2 far outclasses mizuki tho, it almost makes her a laneholder and makes her relevant in IS
PoisonKnights my beloved
@@kenshi3942Mizuki was also pretty relevant with IS#3, being one of the few consistent starters in SW15 and one of the few ground ops that wouldn't die to urchins (Ascalon would also be shafted by RES). He still works in 4... But at this point both of them have to compete with Ela, Taxes and Ya2...
I'd imagine at base Ascalon might do more, but Mizuki can scale better (especially with ASPD, which is easiest for specialists to get, especially for IS#4).
@@slonik0002 yeah mizuki still has his uses and isnt powercrept but I just think ascalon is more useful
Mizuki = full damage
Ascalon = utility
if you want utility from mizuki, use s2.
@@bloodred255yes, enemy only able to move 1 whole tile if S2M3 at normal speed
but only 2 enemies, while Ascalon can do a whole
Neat, gonna use this to prove whoever said Mizuki’s Skill 1 is overall better wrong. He’s still good against single (or double with that module) targets, but Ascalon seems better for more general uses.
Mizuki : Dmg
Ascalon : DoT
11:18 Those Perfumer heals 😅... *+100000384*
Seeing the stages where Mizuki cleared faster and would've cleared if not for Ascalon DoT / lack of someone blocking for Mizuki in those instances, and having Mizuki build, glad she doesn't powercreep him, and he deals better with stat inflation.
No big meta bait before Limited banner like Ines!
Glad both of them have their own uses. Definitely will be using them together.
Honestly, love cc based ambusher. All this time i usually use s2 mizuki cuz that is the only skill with good enough crowd control. But i used ethan more oftem since she is way better at cc than mizuki. When ascalon arrive, time to bench mizuki forever.
Or you can bring and use all of them and make one of the deadliest choke points! >:D
@@copesupply i think i'll do that since i already maxed mizuki, ethan and manti
Mizuki’s S1 is still better due to how it combos with his talent and module. Especially against a single target that the other ambushers are not able to handle.
Mizuki more in damage
But ye, Ascalon fix it with big poison as well
If you guys not sure who raise, you can see yourself
*can raise just both for funny killing wall*
Just use one or the other if you dont have them both, and you'd be fine. A situation where you need one of them specifically i feel like would be very hard to come by and support units still exist.
would it look much different if we use x module for mizuki? that's what i generally use for s1/s2, y is more of an s3 module. thanks for the videos as always, i really like the videos showing off new units
The beginning is misleading by
accident, believe. While the team screen shows modY, if you look at the deployment of Mizuki in each of the clips, the modX symbol flashes. So he is using the correct module. You can also tell because the slow effect is visually applied to enemies that enter his range (the black lines trailing behind them).
S3 comparison when?
Wow look at 7:11 Mizuki is hitting only 1 of the mobs while ascalon is hitting both. (At the start of the stage)
Why is that?
It would mean that Mizuki has a shorter interval between when the enemy is in range and when the damage occurs.
(Although the overall motion time should be shorter for the Ascalon thanks to its qualities.)
@@falera7266 He gain 7 ASPD from his Y-module
@@Only_Ameen04
Ascalon also originally gained +8 ASPD.
In addition, when damage occurs during the attack motion varies from character to character, and a faster attack speed does not necessarily mean faster damage generation.
For example, some characters with the same 1-second motion will do damage in the first 0.3 seconds, while others will do damage in 0.7 seconds.
If a character deals damage in 0.3 seconds, the motion after the damage is longer, and if a character deals damage in 0.7 seconds, the motion after the damage is shorter.
about Ascalon talent's slow stacks, is it additive or multiplicative?
Talent is additive (18x3=54% slow), with module and S2 it is multiplicative (~63% and ~85% slow)
I have a suggestion for you since you can mod anything in your server on Ops about the worst Ops.
Since the kit about the whole thing is Utility, I need you to test it and make a compare on the old with the mod on that ops for yourself. Talent and Skill mod is this (you know about the ops when you feel the skill is off).
Talent : Expand Attack Range, Attacks inflict -15 Attack Speed to the enemy for 3 seconds.
Skill 1 : The next attack deals 150% Physical damage, inflicts Freeze the target and -50% Movement speed afterwards within 4 seconds
Skill 2 : Attack Speed +75. Attack inflict -50% Movement Speed and have 40% chance to inflict cold the target for 5 seconds.
When I see you can mod Mudrock when you want to, I need you to test this for your own attention.
it would be so awesome if only eyjafjallas s2 didnt exist
Another m9 op i guess
it is sad that ascalon only stronger than Mizuki
Why would you ever use module Y on Mizuki when testing S1? Dishonest bad faith video.
The beginning is misleading by
accident, believe. While the team screen shows modY, if you look at the deployment of Mizuki in each of the clips, the modX symbol flashes. So he is using the correct module. You can also tell because the slow effect is visually applied to enemies that enter his range (the black lines trailing behind them).
Well well well, would you look at that? *CORRECTED*
Losing is losing, loser always makes excuses
So unless you are using ambusher as a boss killer(lol) Ascalon is always better. And with her s2 and s3 being better she is just straight upgrade over jelly-boy.
They're more like a sidegrade to one another mostly, with Mizuki s1 and s2 having advantages and drawbacks compared to Ascalon, but her s3 is undeniably better yeah.
eh her s3 more like weird for me
the attack buff are low and the main point of that skill are for her being dodge baiter which is unusual and rarely used
The slow is insane bro, ascalon is better since you need slow to hit enemy that's you can't block as ambusher, so slow is always better regardless of dmg( since their dmg is almost the same mizuki high burst and ascalon dot)
Eh. Only if we didnt have broken cc and damage options already
That means, if already had Mizuki, dont get Ascalon (your choice).
Though if you want an upgraded version, Ascalon is better
So... the TL;DR is....
Mizuki has higher dmg output. But since he doesn't have that much crowd control, he isn't able to properly hit moving enemies, while Ascalon pretty much has a mini Mostima S3 built into her passive
Then, Mizuki outperforms Ascalon in stationary/slow moving enemies, since he has high attack, high multipliers 300% physical + 180% arts (only 2 enemies)
Ascalon can hit enemies more times thanks to the slow, resulting in more bleeding dmg and possibly dealing with enemies on lower health even outside her range