I'd argue that Dodge Raceway is also partially based on Soldier Field in Chicago, as it also held NASCAR sanctioned races outside their football field as well, and the stadium itself is also much larger than Bowman Gray. Great video though dude :) you deserve all the attention it's starting to get
Not really though because although NASCAR ran 2 races from 1956-1957, the Bears didn’t move into the stadium till 1972 as they played at Wrigley Field for almost 30 seasons
I always dominated at Redball so badly, I even started lapping cars in a six lap 5% distance Modified race. It became the canon when I was a kid that Redball was my driver's home track because of how dominant I was at that track. I haven't played a game with Redball in it since the quarantine, but I bet if I started the game up right now, I'd still win and lead every lap. Levi Strauss Speedway, on the other hand, should be bulldozed, everything removed so Dale Jr. can't make an episode of Lost Speedways about it, then have all the rubble thrown into the lowest trench of the Pacific ocean.
7:28 You could probably mentione how in the later games (particularly NASCAR 09 when EA couldn't licence manufactureres), Dodge Raceway was renamed to (and def no coincidence there) Tiburon Raceway.
I love this kind of stuff and I'm happy to see this video suddenly blow up! Even though it wasn't in the base game, I'd like to also point out that there's technically another real life track: The Lakeshore Drive course that could only be achieved through a cheat code. As a Chicago native I was curious one day and actually discovered that unlike the New York city track, this fictional course almost entirely used real streets in Chicago. I mapped it out and the only part of the track I couldn't identify was the train tunnels, but all of the open streets that made up the course are real streets in Chicago.
Well Dodge Raceway Stadium was definitely the successor to Tiburon SS, as it was later renamed Tiburon Raceway Stadium lol. Similarly, Red Ball was named for UPS for Chase for the Cup, before again being renamed to Orchid/Orchard. in 2006, you can race the UPS truck at the UPS Speedway in the UPS 400 lol
I know Sturgeon Bay, Wi doesn’t sound like the serene place you had imagined, but, coming from a Wisconsin native, Door County is a beautiful place and I do hope you visit because it will certainly change your mind. Most places there are absolutely gorgeous.
Just an FYI, Dodge Stadium Speedway is not the only or first Official NASCAR game track with a football field in it. That would be Sierra's NASCAR Legends which features Bowman-Grey itself. Also, your point about Redball being a placeholder for Mansfield is a fair point, but it really really looks like the Nashville Fairgrounds Speedway....
@@dirtsgamecafe3937 The Papyrus/Sierra games were great, all the way back to the original NASCAR Racing. If you can get them to work on modern PC's, they all are worth taking a whirl. For their day, they are amazing Sims, and they really blow the console games out of the water.
Cool to see two of these tracks are from my home state. Im gonna check them out when I go back. I was always curious about these tracks, and when I saw your video I grabbed my earbuds and clicked on it. Great video! Took me back to my childhood!
I've been wondering about this as I started playing the old EA games again, especially because of how much I love racing on Old Spice. Great video, man!
Thanks for uploading! I had NASCAR 2001 through 09 for PS2 when I was in my early to mid-teens. I remember these fantasy tracks quite fondly and would love the chance to play them again given the right platform. Also, I noticed that Red Ball/Orchard Speedway closely resembles Winchester Speedway in Indiana, more so than the Mansfield, Ohio track. (PS: I would love to see a Truck race, or even an Xfinity race, if not a Cup race at Winchester).
That's exactly what I thought when I saw it. How much do ARCA race there couple months ago and I'm going up there this weekend to see some late models race. It's a great track & great racing
Excellent video!! I love that you included some real life videos too. I always wondered what real life places some fictional videogame tracks were based on too, mostly with old Need for Speed games. The track around the football field blew my mind, I never thought a real place like that existed.
NASCAR raced at Soldier Field (1956) in Chicago, plus Exhibition Stadium in Toronto, and War Memorial Stadium in Buffalo on consecutive days in 1958...The 1958 races were the first 2 starts of Richard Petty's career
Mr. Clean Speedway in Hawaii was Rockingham EA probably had the rights for Rockingham, but NASCAR took it of the Cup and Busch Series schedules in 2005
I remember that, and the track was renamed Allstate Speedway in NASCAR 07. I think they glitched that track in NASCAR 07, because the AI is way too much faster. They're running like the modifieds would.
Great video. A little extra about Concord. It was sold to copart and the track no longer exists. Couple of facts about it It was the home track of Dale Earnhardt and his dad Ralph (the 1/2 mile version) as well as a regular track for guys like Rich Bickle, Jack Sprague, Ricky Hendrick, and Ernie Irvan The track was raced at by NBA Shaquille O’neal in a reality show called Shaq Vs, where he raced against Dale Jr. The track also had 2 locations. The old 1/2 mile was sold and turned into a housing development in the 80s-90s in Concord, NC which gave it the name Concord.
Old Spice Speedway actually gave clues what state it was in: Wisconsin. One of the races have Cheese Wheel in it, and Wisconsin is the Cheese State. They also mention that it is located in America’s Dairyland (Wisconsin).
Yeah, when I first played NASCAR 2005: Chase for the Cup, I could've totally bought that Old Spice Speedway was located in Wisconsin. I also used to think that the track was inspired by a recreational go-kart track as the layout and configuration look like it would be a go-kart track at an amusement park.
@@stigrabbid589 Yep, and they glitched it on NASCAR 07. At least, the PS2 version. The AI runs way too fast in the Truck Series. It's like they're the modifieds. The other divisions race there fine, but the Craftsman Truck Series, I always dreaded going there in career mode. I would always make sure that I owned a Truck Series team so I could hire a driver to race that event. I would've much rather raced on edge at the Chicagoland Speedway in the then Busch Series race, and that track along with Kansas was a pain for the Busch Series.
You thought Old Spice speedway was mystical for you, imagine how mystical it was for me, a kid who grew up in Egg Harbor, which is just up the highway from Sturgeon Bay. It was so weird to have a NASCAR connection, even a fictional one, to my little hometown.
Egg harbor is always a fun place to visit, I like kicking butt in the go kart track at the one amusement park there, but like most places in door county, it is beautiful
Seeing this video remembered me a lot of Nascar 09 and these tracks, but i know them for another names, if I'm mistaken Old Spice Speedway was called Boulder Raceway Park, Dodge Raceway as Tiburon Raceway, Redball Raceway as Orchard Raceway (Also Toyota Raceway in previous installments), Levi Strauss Speedway I think stuck with the same name, great memories from that game
I really enjoyed this video, I never actually knew where the canon locations were for these courses, and I'd love to see what other courses were used as a basis for other fantasy tracks (Like Allstate Speedway)
Allstate Speedway was based on rockingham, and it's canonical location is in Hawaii. Rockingham was one of a few tracks that was abandoned during EA's time making the games, along side Nazareth. They still had the track file, so they changed the background and called it allstate lol
@@dirtsgamecafe3937Cool! I think a lot of people would love to see a sequel video, If you do, maybe add some other fantasy courses in there too. Also I love the fact LA Coliseum copied Bowman Gray and Dodge Raceway lol
Went to Bowman Grey "The Madhouse" weekend before last, Championship Night. A guy rammed another driver several times and pushed all the way around the track🤣
That bridge at old spice is a real thing, I’m a Wisconsin native and I drive through the sturgeon bay bridge every time to get to higher up parts of door county, wisconsin
@@dirtsgamecafe3937 yeah, it’s a drawbridge because all of door county is surrounded water, this part goes over one of the rivers that connect sturgeon bay from Lake Michigan I believe
Levi Straus speedway is tricky like pocono but the best way to run good fast consistent laps take a sharp but wide dive bomb to turn 3, run turn 2 like a basic flat track and gas as hard as possible on exit then for turn one never lift drive it deep with left side tires on the white line and let the car or truck drift up near the wall. Once I did that every lap nobody could catch me and regaining the lead after pit stops was easier. Redball was always harder than road courses because of how fast tires go away. For redball I found if I lifted on corner entry and gassed it on exit I could get 2 or 3 laps extra on tires and pit with everybody then make a slight adjustment to make the car or truck handle bad on fresh tires but get better once they went away and by the time everybody would need to pit again or lose grip I could drive away. Next a video on Nazareth would be nice. It was a very tough track that could was easy to win on once navigating the turns was figured out.
Bowman Gray Stadium packs in 8 to 10,000 fans every Saturday night, and remains one of, if not THE, best attended weekly tracks in the country! If you’ve never attended a race there, you can’t begin to understand!
I’d make the argument that if there is a half-mile track that looks like Bristol and put in Indiana, it’s not one track but two. Winchester and Salem are sister tracks to Bristol. Fun fact: The first automobile race after WW II was held at Winchester Speedway.
Speaking of football fields inside racetracks, look at the video of the 1959 Daytona 500...You will see goalposts in the grass between the tri-oval and pit road
Old Spice Speedway is my favorite fantasy track as I knew it was from Wisconsin because Dairyland and Cheesewheel is what Wisconsin is known for. Along with its location being in Sturgeon Bay which is super close to Lake Michigan and Green Bay but I’m about 5 1/2 hours away. I’d also like to see Trucks return to Mansfield Motorsports Park and Race the Dirt track i think it’ll provide better racing along with different grooves than Knoxville.
I honestly had no clue Dodge Stadium was in Florida. I always believed it to be where the Chicago Bears played football but couldn't be called Soldier Field due to NFL copyright stuff.
I think Redball/UPS Raceway is based more on Nashville Fairgrounds because UPS Raceway has higher banking than the real life Mansfield does, as it resembles Nashville Fairgrounds banking more. The front stretch grandstands resemble Nashville Fairgrounds as well. However, I can see that the shape on the track map does kinda look like Mansfield's shape. Maybe it's a mix of the two
I could see it being a mix, for sure. The rural setting is closer to Mansfield, and like I said in the video, it does take it's exact date on the calendar. That said, the extra banking and grandstands could have been inspired by Nashville. Honestly, I think most of the fantasy tracks are a combination of several real inspirations, I just listed the most prominent ones in the video.
Late to the party, but if you ever decide to do videos like this again someday, I'd like to see a deep dive into the history of the fantasy sponsors in the EA Sports games. I especially liked the fantasy drivers they built off of those sponsors in Nascar Kart Racing.
I would love for tracks like Red Ball Raceway and Levi Strauss Speedway to one day spring up at least for the Truck and Xfinity Series. The Old Spice Speedway is a very interesting and intriguing concept except for I do not know if acquiring the land for it would be possible. Now for a place like Dodge Raceway Stadium, I do not feel it could happen for a national touring series race as fun as it might be. You would have to have competition cautions at like laps 100 and 200 of say a 300-lap race because you would have to have controlled pit stops since the setup of the pit area creates a risk of crashing entering and exiting the pit area. I am not sure if this could happen for even an Xfinity or Truck race since you would have to limit the field size to like 30 to 32 cars or trucks. It definitely could not work for Cup because the 36 charter teams all need to compete in every race, and you cannot be limiting the field size to below 36 cars for that reason.
Either Salem, Winchester, or Anderson. All 3 are high banked short tracks in the racing state. Yes Indiana and NC are both big into racing. Glad I live in one of them.
I always loved Dodge Raceway Stadium. I'm a short track wiz in NASCAR 05 and it was either Red Ball or Raceway Stadium that was my favorite. I always thought it was so cool to have a racetrack around a football field and I would wonder what football team plays there
I find it interesting that Red Ball was Red Ball Raceway in NASCAR 2005 and 07 but UPS International Speedway in NASCAR 06, Toyota Raceway in NASCAR 08 and Orchard Raceway in NASCAR 09 btw Southern National Raceway Park became Southern National Motorsports Park in 2013
I remember on the older nascar games I raced 75 laps at Indianapolis won after wrecking all except Dale Jr till the final laps then finished the race on a flat
dodge raceway is 100% based on bowman gray but as a kid i liked to pretend it was my home track seekonk speedway because of the similar size and very similar lap times, with modifieds at least. that and old spice were my two favorite tracks in nascar 2007
I always thought redball raceway was modeled after Nashville Fairgrounds Speedway because of the grandstands and the banking, still though it was always my favorite fantasy track.
I would say red ball is much closer to Lucas Oil Raceway (IRP) than mansfield. IRP also has train tracks right behind speedway and no haulers are allowed in infield. Mansfield is much less wide like winchester compared to IRP sweeping corners. Concord has officially been closed and the track has been dismantled
IRP is already officially in the game, and is much flatter than Red Ball or Mansfield lol. Sad to hear that update about concord, was a very neat track.
I've always felt Dodge Raceway Stadium is more so related to the tens of tracks in the 50s/60s/70s that actually ran inside properly closed stadiums. Buffalo Civic Stadium - 1958 Canadian National Exhibition Stadium - 1958 Soldier Field - 1956 While you probably jumped at Bowman Gray STADIUM, for it's inclusion of that word (Stadium), it's really not the most proper realization of what DRS is. DRS is also a lot closer to Bristol, which now hosts college football each year. Red Ball also doesn't feel like Mansfield, as the banking just doesn't really quite fit. As well, the shape is a little off. The corners feel like a longer sweep compared to the straights.
The Exhibition Stadium race in Toronto, and Buffalo War Memorial Stadium races were held on consecutive days, and were Richard Petty's first 2 NASCAR races
I'd argue that Dodge Raceway is also partially based on Soldier Field in Chicago, as it also held NASCAR sanctioned races outside their football field as well, and the stadium itself is also much larger than Bowman Gray. Great video though dude :) you deserve all the attention it's starting to get
Not really though because although NASCAR ran 2 races from 1956-1957, the Bears didn’t move into the stadium till 1972 as they played at Wrigley Field for almost 30 seasons
@@LSTNSCRFN they still played football there before the bears
Rumor is that NASCAR wants to run a race in the Las Vegas Raiders stadium. If they ran 10 car heats and a final 20 car field, it could be fun.
@@darkesttemplar07 and that turned into the busch crash at the coliseum!
I always dominated at Redball so badly, I even started lapping cars in a six lap 5% distance Modified race. It became the canon when I was a kid that Redball was my driver's home track because of how dominant I was at that track. I haven't played a game with Redball in it since the quarantine, but I bet if I started the game up right now, I'd still win and lead every lap.
Levi Strauss Speedway, on the other hand, should be bulldozed, everything removed so Dale Jr. can't make an episode of Lost Speedways about it, then have all the rubble thrown into the lowest trench of the Pacific ocean.
Same with me. So many good memories of dominating Red Ball
So many bad memories of wrecking at Levi Strauss
I used to be good at all of the fantasy tracks on the EA Sports NASCAR Games.
I dominated both 🤨
Such a fun game. Loved that track
I love both tracks
7:28 You could probably mentione how in the later games (particularly NASCAR 09 when EA couldn't licence manufactureres), Dodge Raceway was renamed to (and def no coincidence there) Tiburon Raceway.
On the psp version of nascar 07, this was also renamed to tiburon raceway
I love this kind of stuff and I'm happy to see this video suddenly blow up! Even though it wasn't in the base game, I'd like to also point out that there's technically another real life track: The Lakeshore Drive course that could only be achieved through a cheat code. As a Chicago native I was curious one day and actually discovered that unlike the New York city track, this fictional course almost entirely used real streets in Chicago. I mapped it out and the only part of the track I couldn't identify was the train tunnels, but all of the open streets that made up the course are real streets in Chicago.
Fun fact about bowman gray: Danny bohn actually grew up racing modifiers there and he still races there occasionally
Finished top 10 in stadium points and was full time this year! 2014 track champion 🏆
@@bigODP thought I said that but I guess I didn’t
Well Dodge Raceway Stadium was definitely the successor to Tiburon SS, as it was later renamed Tiburon Raceway Stadium lol.
Similarly, Red Ball was named for UPS for Chase for the Cup, before again being renamed to Orchid/Orchard. in 2006, you can race the UPS truck at the UPS Speedway in the UPS 400 lol
It was called Toyota after UPS and then orchard
i used to race the brown truck all the time lol
I know Sturgeon Bay, Wi doesn’t sound like the serene place you had imagined, but, coming from a Wisconsin native, Door County is a beautiful place and I do hope you visit because it will certainly change your mind. Most places there are absolutely gorgeous.
Yes, I’ve only gone there 3 times in my life, but every time I’ve been there, it has been amazing
Just an FYI, Dodge Stadium Speedway is not the only or first Official NASCAR game track with a football field in it.
That would be Sierra's NASCAR Legends which features Bowman-Grey itself.
Also, your point about Redball being a placeholder for Mansfield is a fair point, but it really really looks like the Nashville Fairgrounds Speedway....
I didn't know the old PC games included that track. That's a really neat bit of info! If I ever make a part 2 to this, I'll be sure to correct that.
@@dirtsgamecafe3937 The Papyrus/Sierra games were great, all the way back to the original NASCAR Racing.
If you can get them to work on modern PC's, they all are worth taking a whirl.
For their day, they are amazing Sims, and they really blow the console games out of the water.
@@ColtCobra2002 nascar legends isn’t
@@dirtsgamecafe3937 also the South Mod tour shut down back in 2016
I always liked to imagine the fantasy tracks were in heaven and were owned by Dale Earnhardt, Neil Bonnet, Davey Allison, and Alan Kulwicki.
That's pretty stupid
@@Afullerton95 didn’t know it was stuff about yourself day
@@Loaf_ve it's not, yesterday was. Keep up.
@@Afullerton95 bad day ey?
@@Afullerton95 man, your that kind of person huh?
I never knew any of this until now! You learn something new every day! You earned a new subscriber my man! Love it!
Cool to see two of these tracks are from my home state. Im gonna check them out when I go back. I was always curious about these tracks, and when I saw your video I grabbed my earbuds and clicked on it. Great video! Took me back to my childhood!
old spice speedway became boulder raceway in N08, where it's canon location is boulder, CO
I've been wondering about this as I started playing the old EA games again, especially because of how much I love racing on Old Spice. Great video, man!
Thanks for uploading! I had NASCAR 2001 through 09 for PS2 when I was in my early to mid-teens. I remember these fantasy tracks quite fondly and would love the chance to play them again given the right platform. Also, I noticed that Red Ball/Orchard Speedway closely resembles Winchester Speedway in Indiana, more so than the Mansfield, Ohio track. (PS: I would love to see a Truck race, or even an Xfinity race, if not a Cup race at Winchester).
Red Ball always struck me as reminiscent of Winchester Speedway in Indiana
That's exactly what I thought when I saw it. How much do ARCA race there couple months ago and I'm going up there this weekend to see some late models race. It's a great track & great racing
I always think it's based off of Salem Speedway
Excellent video!! I love that you included some real life videos too. I always wondered what real life places some fictional videogame tracks were based on too, mostly with old Need for Speed games. The track around the football field blew my mind, I never thought a real place like that existed.
NASCAR raced at Soldier Field (1956) in Chicago, plus Exhibition Stadium in Toronto, and War Memorial Stadium in Buffalo on consecutive days in 1958...The 1958 races were the first 2 starts of Richard Petty's career
Loved learning more about my childhood games! Great video, deserves more views!
Mr. Clean Speedway in Hawaii was Rockingham
EA probably had the rights for Rockingham, but NASCAR took it of the Cup and Busch Series schedules in 2005
I remember that, and the track was renamed Allstate Speedway in NASCAR 07. I think they glitched that track in NASCAR 07, because the AI is way too much faster. They're running like the modifieds would.
Great video. A little extra about Concord. It was sold to copart and the track no longer exists.
Couple of facts about it
It was the home track of Dale Earnhardt and his dad Ralph (the 1/2 mile version) as well as a regular track for guys like Rich Bickle, Jack Sprague, Ricky Hendrick, and Ernie Irvan
The track was raced at by NBA Shaquille O’neal in a reality show called Shaq Vs, where he raced against Dale Jr.
The track also had 2 locations. The old 1/2 mile was sold and turned into a housing development in the 80s-90s in Concord, NC which gave it the name Concord.
This is my number 1 request in nascar games now. I would absolutely love to see fantasy tracks again
I always imagined old spice speedway was located in Boulder Colorado because the in 09 it was called Boulder speedway loved that track
Weird hearing you say Mansfield is financially stable. The track would be torn down less than a year after this video was published
Arca races at Toledo. Mansfield was sold to industrial companies last year
@@nascarfanFlatTire arca ran at mid ohio which is close to Mansfield
@@nascarfanFlatTire TK is correct, Mansfield was sold for industrial development in 2020.
ARCA did not race there in 2021.
Now we have a Bowman-Gray Stadium design going into the coliseum for the clash. Gonna be crazy!
The good ole Madhouse. Congrats Tim on his 11th championship!
this is a really well done documentary.
I always found it funny how the game called it Wisconsin when the tracks geography clearly was not
I know and that’s considering Door County’s Geography is much different than most of the state as it already.
Hey, at least it has a bridge, like sturgeon bay’s draw bridge
Old Spice Speedway actually gave clues what state it was in: Wisconsin. One of the races have Cheese Wheel in it, and Wisconsin is the Cheese State. They also mention that it is located in America’s Dairyland (Wisconsin).
Yeah, when I first played NASCAR 2005: Chase for the Cup, I could've totally bought that Old Spice Speedway was located in Wisconsin. I also used to think that the track was inspired by a recreational go-kart track as the layout and configuration look like it would be a go-kart track at an amusement park.
Redball speedway reminds me of Eldora if they paved it.
Also, digging the Kakariko village theme being played. Man, that brings me back...
Tiburon superspeedway could be the Texas world speedway maybe.
Literally just relived my pre-teens thanks man!
If my memory is correct I'm pretty sure nascar 06 had a mr clean sponsored track based in hawaii that was literally just rockingham
Yep after Roxkingham left the schedule they just threw in some palms and a mountain
That track was renamed to Allstate Speedway in NASCAR 07
@@stigrabbid589 Yep, and they glitched it on NASCAR 07. At least, the PS2 version. The AI runs way too fast in the Truck Series. It's like they're the modifieds. The other divisions race there fine, but the Craftsman Truck Series, I always dreaded going there in career mode. I would always make sure that I owned a Truck Series team so I could hire a driver to race that event. I would've much rather raced on edge at the Chicagoland Speedway in the then Busch Series race, and that track along with Kansas was a pain for the Busch Series.
loved that you included Kakariko Village music in a NASCAR game video
You thought Old Spice speedway was mystical for you, imagine how mystical it was for me, a kid who grew up in Egg Harbor, which is just up the highway from Sturgeon Bay. It was so weird to have a NASCAR connection, even a fictional one, to my little hometown.
Egg harbor is always a fun place to visit, I like kicking butt in the go kart track at the one amusement park there, but like most places in door county, it is beautiful
Awesome video!!! The nostalgia bro
13:57: thank you, you finally answered my question why it wasn't in the game despite it being in the previous and falling one of this game.
Seeing this video remembered me a lot of Nascar 09 and these tracks, but i know them for another names, if I'm mistaken Old Spice Speedway was called Boulder Raceway Park, Dodge Raceway as Tiburon Raceway, Redball Raceway as Orchard Raceway (Also Toyota Raceway in previous installments), Levi Strauss Speedway I think stuck with the same name, great memories from that game
Fun Fact: there is still a paved track in Clearfield, PA. UMI Motorsports Park
Here from 3widetv! Yeah baby!
I knew the old spice speedway location because in chase for the cup the race was called the door county 200 where my parents would go vacation
Well the Bowman Gray segment age well 😂
🤣 I was going to say the same thing.
I really enjoyed this video, I never actually knew where the canon locations were for these courses, and I'd love to see what other courses were used as a basis for other fantasy tracks (Like Allstate Speedway)
Allstate Speedway was based on rockingham, and it's canonical location is in Hawaii. Rockingham was one of a few tracks that was abandoned during EA's time making the games, along side Nazareth. They still had the track file, so they changed the background and called it allstate lol
@@dirtsgamecafe3937Cool!
I think a lot of people would love to see a sequel video, If you do, maybe add some other fantasy courses in there too.
Also I love the fact LA Coliseum copied Bowman Gray and Dodge Raceway lol
Went to Bowman Grey "The Madhouse" weekend before last, Championship Night. A guy rammed another driver several times and pushed all the way around the track🤣
LA Coliseum now 😆
That bridge at old spice is a real thing, I’m a Wisconsin native and I drive through the sturgeon bay bridge every time to get to higher up parts of door county, wisconsin
No shit? That’s really cool, I had no idea it was a real thing. I’ll have to look it up on Google maps.
@@dirtsgamecafe3937 yeah, it’s a drawbridge because all of door county is surrounded water, this part goes over one of the rivers that connect sturgeon bay from Lake Michigan I believe
All of these tracks have different names in NASCAR 08 for the PS2.
Old Spice: Boulder
Dodge: Tiburon
Red Ball: Toyota
Levi Strauss: Crafstman
Guess they lost rights to the name
@Clayton Durst I remember in NASCAR 09 on PS2 that Red Ball was named “Orchard Raceway,” probably because Toyota didn’t sponsor it anymore
@@Nitro55555 And Levi Stratuss was renamed to Seattle
Levi Strauss was also named Meadow Creek and Blue Ridge
Red Ball was also UPS and Orchard
I love how I predicted like a lot of these tracks because I've been documenting tons of old race tracks throughout the US for quite a few years now.
You gotta love fantasy tracks, in my opinion EA Spirts and Nascar did a great job.
Levi Straus speedway is tricky like pocono but the best way to run good fast consistent laps take a sharp but wide dive bomb to turn 3, run turn 2 like a basic flat track and gas as hard as possible on exit then for turn one never lift drive it deep with left side tires on the white line and let the car or truck drift up near the wall. Once I did that every lap nobody could catch me and regaining the lead after pit stops was easier. Redball was always harder than road courses because of how fast tires go away. For redball I found if I lifted on corner entry and gassed it on exit I could get 2 or 3 laps extra on tires and pit with everybody then make a slight adjustment to make the car or truck handle bad on fresh tires but get better once they went away and by the time everybody would need to pit again or lose grip I could drive away. Next a video on Nazareth would be nice. It was a very tough track that could was easy to win on once navigating the turns was figured out.
Bowman Gray Stadium packs in 8 to 10,000 fans every Saturday night, and remains one of, if not THE, best attended weekly tracks in the country! If you’ve never attended a race there, you can’t begin to understand!
I’d make the argument that if there is a half-mile track that looks like Bristol and put in Indiana, it’s not one track but two. Winchester and Salem are sister tracks to Bristol.
Fun fact: The first automobile race after WW II was held at Winchester Speedway.
I'm glad you also noticed the similarities. I like all three!
This video is awesome! Think you'll ever cover any more fantasy tracks?
This video is being blessed by the algorithm, and I love it.
Dodge Stadium could also be considered similar to Soldier Field where they did one race in the 50s
That's another good possible inspiration. I hadn't heard of that track before!
I'd say soldier field is closer
@@dirtsgamecafe3937 July 1956...Fireball Roberts won the race there
I love these vids man
Redball Speedway is the Nashville Fairgrounds Speedway.
a stock car track within a football field is wild
Hold on to your butts… supposedly the Cup Series may race at the LA Coliseum next year.
Speaking of football fields inside racetracks, look at the video of the 1959 Daytona 500...You will see goalposts in the grass between the tri-oval and pit road
Old Spice Speedway looks like something you'd see in a Gran Turismo game.
Great vid keep going
Dodge stadium is the only place to have a football field within the track.
LA Memorial coliseum : hold my beer
The banking at dodge raceway reminds me of the CNE speedway in Toronto.
CNE was the site of Richard Petty's first NASCAR race in 1958
Red Ball raceway was also a direct copy of Dennison Speedrome from Dirt 2 Daytona, in both games that track is very fun
13:01 my dad raced at clear field speedway before they abandoned the track it is now called UMI speedway
Old Spice Speedway is my favorite fantasy track as I knew it was from Wisconsin because Dairyland and Cheesewheel is what Wisconsin is known for. Along with its location being in Sturgeon Bay which is super close to Lake Michigan and Green Bay but I’m about 5 1/2 hours away. I’d also like to see Trucks return to Mansfield Motorsports Park and Race the Dirt track i think it’ll provide better racing along with different grooves than Knoxville.
5.5 hours away? Do you live right by the Wisconsin iowa border or something? I’m a Dane county native and it’s only about a 3.5 hour drive
@@cjmsacomments4389 Wisconsin/Minnesota border
@@LSTNSCRFN oh ok
@@LSTNSCRFN although I’d assume a southern part of the border?
@@cjmsacomments4389 no Western
I honestly had no clue Dodge Stadium was in Florida. I always believed it to be where the Chicago Bears played football but couldn't be called Soldier Field due to NFL copyright stuff.
I really love the idea of having tracks that don't exist IRL! I'd love to see it become more of a thing in professional sim racing!
I think Redball/UPS Raceway is based more on Nashville Fairgrounds because UPS Raceway has higher banking than the real life Mansfield does, as it resembles Nashville Fairgrounds banking more. The front stretch grandstands resemble Nashville Fairgrounds as well. However, I can see that the shape on the track map does kinda look like Mansfield's shape. Maybe it's a mix of the two
I could see it being a mix, for sure. The rural setting is closer to Mansfield, and like I said in the video, it does take it's exact date on the calendar. That said, the extra banking and grandstands could have been inspired by Nashville. Honestly, I think most of the fantasy tracks are a combination of several real inspirations, I just listed the most prominent ones in the video.
@@dirtsgamecafe3937 oh I see. Yeah they're really cool tracks
Late to the party, but if you ever decide to do videos like this again someday, I'd like to see a deep dive into the history of the fantasy sponsors in the EA Sports games. I especially liked the fantasy drivers they built off of those sponsors in Nascar Kart Racing.
Dodge Raceway is my favorite short track of all time. Bristol for MEN.
Adult me is happy to have found this video! I want to race on Old Spice Speedway again!
I believe dodge raceway stadium is actually 3/8 mile.
I would love for tracks like Red Ball Raceway and Levi Strauss Speedway to one day spring up at least for the Truck and Xfinity Series. The Old Spice Speedway is a very interesting and intriguing concept except for I do not know if acquiring the land for it would be possible. Now for a place like Dodge Raceway Stadium, I do not feel it could happen for a national touring series race as fun as it might be. You would have to have competition cautions at like laps 100 and 200 of say a 300-lap race because you would have to have controlled pit stops since the setup of the pit area creates a risk of crashing entering and exiting the pit area. I am not sure if this could happen for even an Xfinity or Truck race since you would have to limit the field size to like 30 to 32 cars or trucks. It definitely could not work for Cup because the 36 charter teams all need to compete in every race, and you cannot be limiting the field size to below 36 cars for that reason.
Red Ball reminds me of either Salem or Winchester. Both High Speed Short Tracks in Indiana
Red Ball seemed more like Salem Speedway than Bristol or Mansfield, in my EA gaming experience.
Either Salem, Winchester, or Anderson. All 3 are high banked short tracks in the racing state. Yes Indiana and NC are both big into racing. Glad I live in one of them.
@@tylerpuszczewicz2535 Salem or Winchester for sure. Anderson is only a quarter mile.
I’d say 5 flags because it looks just like it
I always loved Dodge Raceway Stadium. I'm a short track wiz in NASCAR 05 and it was either Red Ball or Raceway Stadium that was my favorite. I always thought it was so cool to have a racetrack around a football field and I would wonder what football team plays there
I find it interesting that Red Ball was Red Ball Raceway in NASCAR 2005 and 07 but UPS International Speedway in NASCAR 06, Toyota Raceway in NASCAR 08 and Orchard Raceway in NASCAR 09
btw Southern National Raceway Park became Southern National Motorsports Park in 2013
Two of these track are close to me. I’m at Concord, NC. I’ll try visit it them.
I loved nascar 2005 and I wish games today would include fantasy tracks. Especially the short tracks
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In NASCAR 2006 Redball was UPS Speedway, and there was a Mr. Clean Speedway
I think Dodge Raceway is also a racetrack modification of Tiburon Stadium in the EA football games of the time.
what year was it with sprague in the 16 truck i dont' have that year game?
I remember on the older nascar games I raced 75 laps at Indianapolis won after wrecking all except Dale Jr till the final laps then finished the race on a flat
This is awesome. I removed racing dodge raceway in 06 total team control. Never realized it was a football stadium, as I was only 8-11 years old.
I loved those early 2000's nascar games.
Redball was based off of the Nashville Fairgrounds Speedway. The front stretch grandstands give that away immediately.
It's possible it took inspiration from several tracks, but the schedule placement aligns it with Mansfield. So, could be a bit of both.
@@dirtsgamecafe3937 the railroad track behind the backstretch and the light structures inside the track are just like Nashville Fairgrounds.
In nascar 08, there’s even a fair outside of turn three!
dodge raceway is 100% based on bowman gray but as a kid i liked to pretend it was my home track seekonk speedway because of the similar size and very similar lap times, with modifieds at least. that and old spice were my two favorite tracks in nascar 2007
I always believed red bull was Nashville fairgrounds but i may be wrong but does have same crowd cover and train off back straight
3:13 renamed to Boulder in NASCAR 08
Dodge Raceway was renamed to Tiburon in 08 as well.
I always thought redball raceway was modeled after Nashville Fairgrounds Speedway because of the grandstands and the banking, still though it was always my favorite fantasy track.
I did too
I love this video!
Funny enough, in NASCAR 06, they literally took Rockingham, which was in 2005, and set it in Hawaii.
Sturgeon Bay, WI. I could have sworn it was Maitland, FL
I would say red ball is much closer to Lucas Oil Raceway (IRP) than mansfield. IRP also has train tracks right behind speedway and no haulers are allowed in infield. Mansfield is much less wide like winchester compared to IRP sweeping corners.
Concord has officially been closed and the track has been dismantled
IRP is already officially in the game, and is much flatter than Red Ball or Mansfield lol. Sad to hear that update about concord, was a very neat track.
I want to know who's bright idea it was to put a race in Northern Wisconsin in March?
Someone who really enjoys the cold, it would seem. Lol
Especially because people would’ve moved from their summer homes up there
Old Spice was called Boulder Raceway in '09
"Maybe ontop of a mountain in a far away country...."
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Haha all of my childhood wonder and fantasies were crushed when I discovered that researching for the video. So much for that far off mountain-top :p
I've always felt Dodge Raceway Stadium is more so related to the tens of tracks in the 50s/60s/70s that actually ran inside properly closed stadiums.
Buffalo Civic Stadium - 1958
Canadian National Exhibition Stadium - 1958
Soldier Field - 1956
While you probably jumped at Bowman Gray STADIUM, for it's inclusion of that word (Stadium), it's really not the most proper realization of what DRS is. DRS is also a lot closer to Bristol, which now hosts college football each year.
Red Ball also doesn't feel like Mansfield, as the banking just doesn't really quite fit. As well, the shape is a little off. The corners feel like a longer sweep compared to the straights.
The Exhibition Stadium race in Toronto, and Buffalo War Memorial Stadium races were held on consecutive days, and were Richard Petty's first 2 NASCAR races
I miss tiburon. That place was a riot
I’m here after the possible reports of NASCAR going to the LA Coliseum