How Much Power Does A 1986 SVO Fox Body Mustang Make?
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- We decided to switch gears from a V8 and dyno our bone stock, 1986 SVO Fox Body Mustang. So follow along to find out how much power this 4-cylinder Fox really makes!
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That is one clean turbo stang. Not many more of those left in that shape.
This car is a blast to drive. For 1986 technology, it is still a fan one 100%!
I got one almost restored
I have a black 86 with a little over 1700 miles. Museum condition..... That's why it's in the garage nearly all the time:(
jon doe What? Ford calls it Trac-Lock...not Limited Slip...and it should already have it! Haha!
Lol! Only folks watching this have svo's! Mine got v8 swapped in 93 and then again with too rowdy a v8 in 2001.. been sitting for years in a garage. I plan on doing a 2.3 ecoboost from a new mustang.. I couldn't make great friends with the old Lima when I started looking for more power
The SVO was a sleeper. And it handled and brakes better than the GT of the time. I almost bought one.
dodgeguyz almost bought a grey one myself.
I did buy one new & used one. Ive owned 84 & 85 GT. SVO blows em away in every way but of coarse SVO was at least $5K more
Had one in silver. Playing around in it no power steering in these things wrapped it around a light pole crawled out drivers side window with nothing more than a cut leg and pop knot on my temple.
Yea, this car specifically is a sleeper. Notice how the exhaust vent tube fell off or was never put on.. lmao SLEEPER for sure
@@artlovemusicpeace exhaust vent tube? What is that?
The original EcoBoost.
But better!
@@arttafil6792 Yup! This SVO does the 0-60 in 6.6s while the Mustang EB does it in a measly 4.5s. All while weighing 600lbs more than the 86, And gas mileage right about the same. How have we failed in the future?! 😵🧐
E C ecoboost stock definitely ain’t doing a 4.5 0-60 lol
@@ec3886 Found the EB owner. Lol
@Jimmy Neal agreed that is actually what a gt does 4.5 to 4.7 range, a mustang with a turbo + less power + a tad of turbo lag = 0-60 in the upper to mid 5s
I worked at a Ford dealership in1986, we also sold Saab cars, one day I was out test driving a svo mustang that was in for a clutch job when I ran across a Saab turbo. It was being driven by one of my buddies from the dealership and would you know it, at the next red light we raced them and I won by 3 car length s. When we got back to the shop, my buddy walked over to me and said that was the 1st time anybody had smoke him that bad. then I told him that it was in for a clutch job because it was sliping at high rpms. It blew him away.
@Daver G The SVO had a much larger compressor than any Saab, 33lbs/min vs 23. Actually the largest turbo on a 4cyl in America for more than a decade after.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that the same motor that was in the Thunderbird Turbo coupe?
so you were out drag racing a customer car? LOL wtf.
@@335bye4 - Yes. If I remember correctly the 85-86 turbo coupe didn't have a intercooler. If you bought an intercooler from Ford Performance it would raise hp from 150 to 175 hp. 1987 - 88 Turbo coupes came stock with the intercooler but were rated at 190 hp from the factory.
@@281cobracar7
That was a hell of a little motor.
When my parents had that car (new from the dealer). My dad and grandpa worked at Garrett Air Research. While one day at lunch, my dad and some guys at Garrett put one of the Garrett turbos on it. OMG, what a monster they made. They had that car for quite a few years. When I turned 16 I got to drive it. I didn't know anything about the turbo mod.
I couldn't tell, the car drove nice and mellow. One day some guy at a light with a loping, open headers obnoxious motor was egging me on to race. At that point I had never got in a race, only been driving legally for about 8months. OMG, did I learn what turbo lag was that day and gaped the shit out of that guy. I've been a car guy for life.
The SVO's were best looking Mustangs of that era IMO. I would of loved to see Ford put the disk brakes, 5 lug wheels and upgraded suspension on the GT Mustangs and even the rear bi level wing!
Yeah, the styling was really cool, especially that hood and they had discs all the way around. Stupid brakes on Foxbodies about got me killed 20 times lol...
I agree with your opinion . looking back now i must wonder if the FoMoCo kept the features simple so I was able to buy my GT for 16k in 1991 ? Dam interest rates were high enough to make loan sharks proud by today's standards
I was in High School in 85 and I remember a classmate had the Escort GT around this era .. I have an 84 LX 5.0 HO option /AOD option Droptop I have taken on as a car in 65- 70% condition (stock) I could never afford in the 80's with a $2.25 hour after school job and trying to start life without even a basic internet connection that was windows 95 and no cell phones .. It's era you had to live to understand it and the 70's .
The two tone GTs hatchback from 87-93 were my favorite. I had an all black with red pinstripe 87 Hatchback GT 5 spd for my 1st car, always did love uncle Dave the most 😅
that's the irony--folks would defend their purchase of a GM F body as, "yes, the Fox is faster but my car corners and stops". The SVO was using Lincoln rear brakes, so it wasn't like it would have cost a ton to get a better V8 Mustang, even in SSP (for the police department) tune.
Ford had such high hopes for that turbo 2.3. I remember getting out of high school in the early 80's and thinking that we'd never see a V8 engine outside of a large work truck. Who'd have thought that we'd have the high horsepower monsters that are running around now.
Ahh, back in the day, when 300 hp at the flywheel was a monster number for a street car.
@@frontxxrunnerBack when the Mad Max movies predicted V8s were on their way to extinction. There have been so many produced now they will never go extinct. Anyway, yeah I had a cammed up 300hp 302 in a 67 Mustang Coupe and it would smoke any factory stock sports car that I came across back in 1985. It ran 13.7 at 105mph at the track on 245/50-15 Bfg Comp T/A street tires. Hell the stock V6 cars will do that nowadays. It was all about that lumpy V8 sound though. That's why the SVO didnt sell better. Sounded pretty pathetic compared to the 5.0
@@edjackson4389 that 5.0 H.O. had a great sound once you put a proper aftermarket exhaust on it to let it breath.
It was before it’s time. The 2300 was a great performer however in the business world, the customer wanted a V8.
@@edjackson4389i had a 88 LX 5 speed 5.0 stock motor other than cold air intake, short throw shifter, 3.73 gears and flow master cat back exhaust. Best I did was a 14.1@99mph always having traction issues lol. Wish I had a set of slicks but oh well fun car long gone now
250trq at the wheels is insanely impressive. 200hp and damn near 300trq at the flywheel for a 2.3L turbo 4 in 1986 is incredible
I owned a 2007 Mazdaspeed3 for a few years and that thing was a blast! 2.3 turbo 4 had 263hp and 280lb. Ft torque. Miss it but the maintenance bills started creeping up so I had to let her go. Maybe one day if my money gets better I might get another but until then, it's toyota tacoma time for me!
@@OG-BIG-SHEPHERD. I actually had a friend with a mazdaspeed 3. FUN car lol. My first car was a 1990 2door Jetta. I swapped in a G60 stage 2 Bahn Benner Motorsport engine. Dynoed at 232hp and 256trq at the wheels, and just over 2300lbs. The looks of the people I would beat, in MUCH more expensive cars, was PRICELESS. That includes 5.0 foxbody stangs, Integra GSRs and the rare type Rs, Celica GTS'....a thousand Civic SI's and SIR's lol
I remember test driving an 86 with my father. Pulled as hard at the GT we test drove. When we opened the hood my father took one look at how small the engine was and thought it wouldn't last. Wish I knew then the 2.3 block would hold as much if not more than the stock 5.0 block. The SVO looked great too.
FWIW My father's daily was a red 86 SVO just like that one for nearly 20 years, great car. I in part learned to drive on it and took my drive test in it.
I Wanted this Car back in the Day
The SVO didn't get a lot of love when introduced, getting some now.
Nice to see our SVO's getting a little love! Had my 86 for just over 28 years now, they are fun to own/drive, especially on the road courses. Your numbers match what I remember seeing a stock setup put out, good to see the consistency. Last time I had mine on the dyno it put 270 rwhp/300 rwtq, but it ain't stock.
Passed on a black one in mint condition, 40k miles on it for $10,500 a couple years ago.
Still kicking myself.
hense your name jk lol
In ‘84 I was working in a gas station in Cali. A lot of local hot rodders would come in to hang out, cruise and set up races. One of the quickest cars was an SVO. He said he’d changed rear end ratio, shaved the head, changed the pully, and made an intercooler. It was nuts for the 80s.
You didn't even have a fan blowing down on the intercooler...
That's right, and the 1986 SVO was rated at 210Hp.......
@@Pillowbiter84 The '84-'85 was rated at 175hp, the '85 1/2 was rated at 205hp and the '86 was rated at 200hp.
This was the automotive future. We just didn't know that yet in 1984.
Your garage looks mint!
in 1992 i got my 86 svo with a blown 2.3t for $800 . now it has a 460 with trick flow heads , howards cam , scat crank , eagle rods , afr intake with a jet performance carb , stainless long tube kooks headers with 3 inch flowmasters , watts link 9 inch , afco coilovers , momo seat with twead interior . ive been in a wheelchair for 3 years and my friends are converting the car to all hand controls so i can drive it again .
Regardless of the performance numbers, this is still an absolutely beautiful car that I'm sure any Fox fan would be proud to own!! Thanks so much for running it up!
Man that car is immaculate.
Finally the svo gets a little attention:).
Join the svo cult
It sure didn't get much attention when Ford was selling them!
Would love to you guys carry/repro more parts for these. One piece headlights would be cool for these too
That's the cleanest fox body I've seen since they were new on the ford lot.
Yeah, this SVO is nice! -Landan
I love that car i had 2 of them back in the day would love to have another one.
Such a prime example of an amazing car. Thanks for the video!
Thank you for the feedback!
Jackie Stewart's favorite Mustang.
Thanks for sharing the video. Impressive numbers for a stock SVO. Have you ever considered making a one piece light kit for these cars. Factory parts are getting unobtanium and there is likely a pretty good demand if you do.
Not at this time, but that would be a cool idea! I will be happy to pass this one over to our Product Development Team for further evaluation! - Jay
@@latemodelrestoration that would be great Jay. It really the only part that’s “unfinished “. Ready the history of the car, it makes sense that they were limited in their investment funds.
Don't forget to factor in you had zero air blowing through that intercooler. I had an 86 and swapped a larger T-Bird intercooler in there and strapped an 800 CFM fan to the intercooler blowing through it at all times. With the hood closed it would vacuum cigarette smoke into it from several inches in front for the scoop.
I was thinking the same thing!.... absolutely NO airflow over the intercooler in that dyno test.
ALL cars should have a shop fan going for a dyno test
I had a Silver 86' . I loved that car , I want it back! It had a header and exhaust and was pretty quick.
I had one... fact HP rating was slightly less than GT bc they didnt want to show up the GT (tru story), SVO had same HP as GT in that year but Of coarse SVO is way lighter & Very balanced car (49 / 51) compared to GT. As you said if you adjust boost it will be way more fun!
I love the SVO, I had a white 1985 1/2 which was supposed to have the most HP out of all of them. It was all original and great condition, I got it for $4,500 and really enjoyed driving it around.
Love that svo. I had the same car in 1988 and the guy I sold it to still has it to day
I swapped this drive train into my 73 Ford Capri. I love the 2.3 turbo sohc 👌
I have pair of t-birds with that 2.3 turbo. 84 and 86. My 86 is daily driver. Lot of miles 230,000+ runs but the engine getting tied. Both are none intercooled. I enjoy driving them.
I had an 87, i hated the hell out of that car. One of the most fun and comfortable to drive, but Jesus, that thing broke down all the time.
A short, concise, to the point video. Finally a channel I don't have to watch a guy blabber nonsense just to get his video over 10 minutes when it only required less then half that to make their point.
I had on just like this for 28 years from new. I moved around the world someplace. If I move back, I will buy another one.
I've driven a couple of Turbo Coupes, that motor has great torque
This makes me laugh, my first car was a 1984 Z28 rated at 145 hp to the flywheel. I would have shit my pants watching this 4-cylinder absolutely run away from me. Great flat curve!
I know 2.3 aren’t as popular but more vids on the 2.3 and the 2.3T would be amazing. I want to keep mine stock but the lack of in depth knowledge keeps me in the fence
whoa it sounds kinda like an inline 6
Turbo sounds awesome
When these were new (83-86, the original L69 Camaro's, The Holley carb'd Mustangs, Shelby Chargers) I used to play "prospective new car buyer". The poor guy at Sunnyvale FLM - he insisted I needed to try the regular turbo Mustang first, and what a turd that thing was. The SVO on the other hand - he was hanging on for dear life. That's one of the few cars that I've always wanted but never bought.
mcm95403 I drove the beans outta mine for a good 6 years.
Geesh love old school man. Grew up around these
In 1979, a professional drag racer took advantage of a weight/displacement rule and entered an often overlooked drag-racing class with a Pinto Hatchback, powered by a Ford 2.0L OHC I-4 w/draw-thru carbureted-turbo setup making 306hp. The car took the class for the season's championship, and probably could've been duplicated for the street... if the camshaft chosen wasn't so "wild" and it incorporated multi-point EFI, like the SVO.
BTW: I have seen street-able SVO Mustangs modded to push 300+HP... but they typically incorporated an intercooler considerably different than the one found on the factory engine, respectively.
Always wanted an svo. I had an 86 lx 2.3 with no power, and an 88 with a hi perf 351w shoved in it which was insane.
Man, I didn't think they were quite that hot. With just some turbo-related upgrades, that would have to be a quicker car than most 302 Fox bodies, and I'm sure it would handle WAY better. I'm impressed.
Thanks for the comment Jim and we were pretty impressed too!
Amazing car, I think it needs a fan on the intercooler to get the full potential out of it, max power on that motor is made at 5000 rpm and it peaked way before that around the torque peak
One of my favorite cars of all time. I owned 2.
Back then my friends that were in Iroz and 5.0 gave this car respect
for sure thats true. SVO was a fast one despite what some ppl think, was super easy to get more HP out of it. all you had to do was open hood reach over & pull wastegate regulator hose off lol. Ford used to advertise SVO as a car that could go from showroom to race track...
I wanted this car back in 1986 ! What made this car so desirable to me is that it was only a 2.3 making those numbers.
its a really strong / lasting engine
I got a black ‘86 svo as a senior gift in high school. My friends and I had more fun in that car than you could imagine. I don’t know how, but it would peg the boost gauge at 18 psi. It only lost a couple races by serious cars.
I BET YOU DID! I would have loved to have something like this during my senior year in high school.
1986 was the last year for SVOs ... that's probably what you had.
fastEdCanuck you’re right. I didn’t notice I hit the 7. Old man hand issues.
That made all kinds of cool noises ☺️
New, that car had 45 more ponies than the V-8 GT. The processor was capable of flying a 747. It was built for carving corners, and the only thing it shared with a NON-SVO Mustang was some sheet metal. There were absolutely magic!
This was my first car, bought it in 1985. It was emaculate when I sold it in 1997 and had 32k miles at the time. It was rated at 205 bhp.
I been in Love with this car since it came out!!
I had this same setup (minus the intercooler) in an '86 Mercury Cougar XR-7.
Looks like a resurrected video. I was looking for one of these SVO back in '91, they were all trashed I mean destroyed. Even the 1988 Turbo Coupe Thunderbird was destroyed. What a shame.
This Engine was the basis of multiple WRC winning cosworth YB Engine.
Interesting, I had an 84 SVO, it was slow off the line, but had great top end speed. I heard you say your 86 had 3.73 gear ratio, so I looked it up to see if you were right and you are. My 84 SVO came with a 3.45 gear ratio, plus less HP then the 86 model. My car was junk TBH, turbo went out on it, gear stick bolts broke, some times I would be driving it on the highway and it would just die (something in the wiring harness) and if it sat for a few hours, smoke would blow out the tail pipe when I would start it. The good things I can say about the car is it handled great and the front seats had great support.
Was the 84 a carburetor model?
@@garylivingston9052 No.
I had SVO seats in my 1985 Mustang GT.
Super clean garage, love it 😊
I owned two '86 SVOs. One street and one Comp Prep car. They were both really nice and would pretty much run side-by-side with the V-8s till 90 and then would pull away due (I think) to better gearing and areo.
Wes, too bad you didn't hang on to them!
@CC Ryder Yes, I'm sure the 5.0s were sandbagging just to make me feel good! I owned a 94 Cobra Mustang and am very up on what a 5.0 can and cannot do.
That's one very clean version of what I assume would be a very hard to get Mustang. I've never understood why Ford never applied all the great features BEYOND that turbo 4 into the really popular GTs. I would've loved to have been a witness to meetings where these bean counters made the argument FOR rear drum brakes instead of discs at all 4 corners. Interesting video, though.
The story with these isn't the total HP but the power delivery. That peak HP comes on with a sudden bang. These were not for amateur drivers which is why a lot of them got crashed. Great cars.
Damnit. I miss my Oxford White 86. It was pretty modified internally and hilarious. When it ran.
Miss my 89 lx 5.0 she was a runner wanna get another 1 some day
bought a 88 lx notch 5.0 5 speed brand new yep miss it!
Notice the 5 lug wheels, other mustangs wouldn't get those until almost 10 years later. Many other bits on the SVO were years ahead of regular mustangs. This one looks like a time capsule.
That's not true, in Fox Mustangs with the exception of the SVO the V8 cars got 5 lug, and others got 4 lug. The major difference was actually the rear axle, if it was 5 lug it's an 8.8, the 4 lug were a 7.5.
@@snek9353 I had a 92 LX 5.0 and a 93 Cobra, both 4 lug.
I had an '85 1/2 SVO. Army green. Ugly as sin. The main reason I sold it was the top driver side door hinge mount was rotting out by 1990. I was later told they only made 4 green '85 1/2s. The other reason for selling was those horrible Goodyear VR50 tires. They looked the sh*t, but at anything below 90 degrees they were as hard as a rock and just spun.
You're right! The 85-1/2 Dark Sage SVOs were super rare! Thanks for sharing. -Landan
Ordered an 85 GT new and never even considered the SVO. I saw a few around but mainly us 20 somethings were getting the GTs. Yeah, they supposedly had good numbers and handled well but they didn't get much respect then. Not sure why the GT didn't get offered those sized wheels. Forget how much they cost but were a bit too much higher in price to consider them also.
Missed an opportunity to dyno it with the octane switch on the low boost setting. Be nice to know how much more power that 6 additional PSI get you.
Also no air blowing through the intercooler.
What did the boost gauge read? Did the pull include pegged boost? My 85.5 will bounce off 18lbs, but hold 15. 15% driveline loss would show dead nuts on rated HP, but higher than stated torque.
Firstly... Thank you for the video and it was truly a unique car for the day. Ford should have stuck with SVO program for their various products more consistently. I do have a serious question for the tester ----- Did you really run a turbo hard and then shut it down to cook? If not, it would be nice to see some cool down if so, then shame on you!
Thanks for the comment. The video was edited to reflect the run and results. No one has time to watch a turbo cool down. You might as well watch paint dry. -Landan
why dont you guys sell more 2.3L stuff?
Had a 1988 T-bird TURBO COUPE with the 2.3L, I believe by then they where making 210 HP. You can still find parts for these engines, Rapido Group out of Oregon still stocks parts. Also for the Merkur XR4TI.
My daily driver is an '88 Turbo Coupe.
Thxs for info I have pair t-birds with 2.3 turbo
Quick and to the point
You need a fan to just give it a fighting chance, Bud.
What a nice car. Always wanted one.
This one is definitely on my bucket list for personal cars to own.
I had the exact car in 1986.
That SVO is sweet!
These were the best looking Fox body Mustangs by far. I always wished they had put a twin turbo 5.0 in them, though.
upside downdog, that would have been a crazy set up!
@@latemodelrestoration
I ride a turbo motorcycle so I guess crazy is where I am at!
upside downdog, I bet that is a rush.
That same motor ended up in several other variations of cars.
The Thunderbird, Mercury Merkur
there was another car too but cannot remember the name of it that used that same motor
just remembered another version the Ford Mercury Capri . That shared the same motor also
SVO, TC Thurderbird, XR4TI Merkur, Mustang GT (yes really), M-81 McLaren (1 0f 10 made - i had one), 79 Mustang Pace Car
Thats just a good looking car. Would love to have one..
Man he had to feather that clutch and go through the gears so easy n $#!+, other wise it would've just shredded that dyno!!!
There should have been a SVO eco boost
The SVO was a better car than the GT, especially in Handling. Price point killed it. GT was a cheaper purchase for a half a body length at the Finnish line.
Man...wish I had a SVO 4 banger
Cool video but intercooler needed some airflow.
I have the exact same car. 2R, Leather interior, sunroof. 223 made in 1986.
NICE!!! That is a good one to have.
Has a very similar power band to the 15-17 ecoboost mustang .
These look so cool and the front reminded me of an XR4Ti. Lima 4 banger sounds like crap though
Damn that car is clean!!
The svo deserved more credit
At the same time the grandpa national was rated 235 hp 335 ft lb but in a huge 3.8L v6 while the svo rated at 200 hp 240ft lb in a 2.3 L almost half the displacement
Anyone who knows the GM knows those numbers were rated way low. Don't even try it. Not only that, the 2.3 had no where near the potential.
@@EGGINFOOLS ya nice try ive seen stock low mile granpa nationals dyno runs in the real world & they are close to the reported numbers . Perhaps your thinking of gnx
My college roommate had an '86 GN and it would eat my '85 GT 5.0 alive! I'd kill him out of the hole with my 5 speed....but by the top of 2nd gear he would walk on by!!
@@Turbo4Joe363 ya & a 85gt only had 200 hp na . But would rather have the gt
Ya grandpa national motor is no 2jz
Uh, no fan blowing through the intercooler??????
Definitely could make a little more with air blowing through the intercooler like it would while going down the road. The first mod I would is a front mounted intercooler and a bigger turbo and injectors.
I had 84 gt with turbo amazing
that's a very nice svo!
Assuming you had a fan blowing, next time put the hood down so that then intercooler receives the air blast.
Why they let the numbers game of the gt best the SVO, I’ll never understand. I too thought the 302 was a better choice then, but I always thought the SVO captured what the 80s was about. Wouldn’t it be awesome to drop the new turbo 2.3 system into one of these UFOs?
Now drop a new 2.3 Turbo swap into it.
Would be cool but it would need to be a built one to make serious power since the new alloy 2.3 blocks can only handle about 400HP before they crack. So i think you might be better off just tuning the Lima 2.3L and adding modern tech to it since its block is probably made of iron and can handle a ton of boost.
The svo was quicker to 60 than the v8 because of the 3.73 gears. More torque got to the rear wheels.
That torque curve looked like something was wrong. My XR4 used to keep building torque as rpms increased (measured by the SOTPM). For torque to be dropping off from 3k, well, are we sure nothing was wrong with the car?
It would be totally sweet to swap that engine with an ecoboost 2.3.
(arnold horshack voice:) Ooo, ooo! Show us the NACA duct in the hood!!!!
He didn't have air blowing through the intercooler. so it probably wasn't an accurate dyno number.
This is awesome. Love it
Very nice sounding