e252: Does The Legendary Kyosho Optima Mid Live Up To Its Expectations? We Hit The Track & Find Out

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ย. 2022
  • We compare the Kyosho Optima Mid Rerelease to the original Optima Mid and then hit the track to see if the rerelease lives up to its legendary status.
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  • @fiatfixie4344
    @fiatfixie4344 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I raced one at a club level in the late 80's early 90's on carpet and pavement. Didn't know what I had. The thing was so simple, forgiving and dialed. I won a lot with it against more expensive, more modern cars. I didn't realize how much of it was the car until I tried dialing in other buggies in other classes.

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So true. Very forgiving….made me feel like a pro… lol 😂

  • @BajaJeremy
    @BajaJeremy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent!! I'd say the short wheelbase version MID is well suited to the tight turns and transitions on Phil's track. Next Legendary release? I'm gonna go with the Turbo Ultima. Keep 'em coming Kyosho! $$$$

  • @DeliriumElectric
    @DeliriumElectric หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice upgrades by Kyosho. Looks great and seems to handle really well. Love your track!

  • @DavidVanmeterDutch
    @DavidVanmeterDutch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Turbo optima was first high level rc car I ever saw at local fair where they had a race. That was in 1987! And have loved all the Kyosho cars ever since.

  • @trevorfurlotte
    @trevorfurlotte ปีที่แล้ว +9

    As for more re-releases I'm hoping for an updated monster truck line, Double Dare and Big Brute specifically.

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’d love for Kyosho to rerelease their car crusher line of monster trucks from the the early 90s.

    • @davidbabin4813
      @davidbabin4813 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Big Brute was my first hobby grade RC. Sorry I sold it.

    • @jerzinho92
      @jerzinho92 ปีที่แล้ว

      I still have my double dare :)

  • @Blakktastikvision
    @Blakktastikvision ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love it, and already knew I would.....but I'm gonna hold out for the Turbo Optima Mid SE and go from there......I'm finishing up a Turbo Optima with a Mamba X/5400kv and it SHREDS/RIPS/TEARS....U NAME IT....Handles like a Mongoose one steroids!🤣🤣🤣 Already kno what to expect. Look for the you tube video of the Optima Mid vs. the Xray XB4......that will give u a better idea of how much more this buggy is capable of.....keep it coming Bro!

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks and I'll look for that video. Retro v. modern. sounds interesting.

    • @78lagwagon
      @78lagwagon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RCRetro yeah I'm pretty sure the video is from Rama (Alcyon) who is one of the gurus when it comes to mids and setting them up for high power and racing them against modern buggies. All prior to the rere.
      Your buggy looked great out there, I've got mine, planning on building it over Xmas with the exo RC lwb chassis. Cheers for all your great content!

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I watched it. I’m Impressed

    • @Blakktastikvision
      @Blakktastikvision ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RCRetro Yes sir! Whenever I build mine, I'm setting it up to run on clay which is popular here in my area in Michigan......I love Retro! Like the Terminator said...."Old......not Obselete" 🤣

  • @roccomarcelli821
    @roccomarcelli821 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still need to build mine, remember when the original came out went straight to the hobby shop to pick one up. 👍🏻

  • @tonyquicklaps4347
    @tonyquicklaps4347 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a Mid then the Mid turbo. Awesome cars, ran them into the ground. Moved to Pro Cat, wish I hadn’t as the Mid was so predictable.
    My mate then bought a Lazer ZX and whipped everyone with it. What a car that was.

  • @tonycruz2296
    @tonycruz2296 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first duty station after joining the Air Force was Kadena Air Base Okinawa Japan back in 1985 and I was fortunate to purchase the original optima. I did not buy the optima mid when it came out but instead bought the Lazer ZX which at the time was made to compete with the Yokomo YZ10 and boy it was a dream to drive and tweak for racing. I kept that lazer until 2021 I sold it as a bundle along with a Trinity EV10, an original Tamiya Bruiser and other 90’s era rc buggies. It was hard to see them go. Anyway I would like to see Kyosho re-release the Lazer ZX. It was Kyosho’s real 4WD performance platform.

  • @XARIER39
    @XARIER39 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful Kyosho cars! I've owned many a Tamiya but not a single Kyosho. Super envious bro.

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe you’ll get one soon. I’d highly recommend

  • @peterhootonrc1498
    @peterhootonrc1498 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant I’m saving for some kyosho cars, love all the legendary series. Great video car looks amazing 👍

  • @VINTAGEBACKYARDRC
    @VINTAGEBACKYARDRC ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like it handles amazing bud. Great work as usual!

  • @bluegroovemodelsports9650
    @bluegroovemodelsports9650 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice build. Thanks for sharing

  • @DipeshHinduja
    @DipeshHinduja ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it is time for some timed laps on Phil’s track! Or the side by side racing, basically something to put some results to the driving feel of the car. Great video, I am almost convinced I need to get one of these kits over the modern RTRs in the same price range!

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Think you are right. Cold weather is here so perhaps in the spring. I’d like to do another “Versus” video. Havnt done one in a while.

  • @rc-fannl7364
    @rc-fannl7364 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice drive, and they added some neat features to this re-re, I remember cursing these shock clamps. If too loose, the collars slip upwards, too tight and you risk stripping the threads, or slightly deforming the shock body, so the piston starts binding. Threaded collars fix all these issues.

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely... now there is another kit coming out or maybe it came out... where all the parts are carbon... front/rear shock tower and chassis/upper deck.... I love the optima mid

  • @markscotchford4159
    @markscotchford4159 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoyed this video. Yes I really like the Optima Mid and wanted to see what you thought about it but also, the video was really good because your personality came through a bit more. Hey, be you, if you want to say awesome, you say awesome. :-)

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome… comment lol… thanks

  • @damienbracey6739
    @damienbracey6739 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't built mine yet. I still have my original mid with an aftermarket LWB conversation. They are a great car.

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว

      totally are. I can't wait to see what Kyosho puts out next...

  • @powersmodelgarage
    @powersmodelgarage ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems to handle the track really well. Looks awesome too.

  • @m111kca4
    @m111kca4 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have two original ones, had one for years and got another a few years back. With my original have a full set of different tyres

  • @rcicons4915
    @rcicons4915 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have one to build at some point. The mids and lazers just run so smooth. They handle like nothing else.

    • @BJETNT
      @BJETNT ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have every version of the Optima but I was never able to get a Lazer!! I might have to fix that!! I have heard they are awesome!

    • @alphawlff
      @alphawlff ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BJETNT I have a Lazer ZX-5 and it is awsome.

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’d like to get my hands on a lazer ZX. Perhaps in the future.

    • @rcicons4915
      @rcicons4915 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RCRetro there is one on eBay.
      I ran my zx today. It was awesome.

  • @ShenRC
    @ShenRC ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A beauty!! I like how they made the adjuster for the belt right on the side so easy to access! You get any dirt in on the belt? I ran my javelin on the ball field and it got some sand inside on the belt.

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว

      So I heard of issues with these sucking in dirt through the motor. With this optima mid and my javelin, I take a thin black sock and make motor
      Covers which are held in place with a zip tie around the motor. Havnt had any issues yet with either of my RCs. Maybe that’s how it’s getting into your belt???

    • @ShenRC
      @ShenRC ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RCRetro Hi it may be but I think I may have used that fiber motor washer that tamiya makes those usually stop dirt from getting in... I will have to look and see for sure if I used one I forgot. Thanks

  • @paulus842000
    @paulus842000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good color choices, she looks really sweet ❤️

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. Thought the black wheels really finishes it off.

  • @Mr1stlevel
    @Mr1stlevel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video

  • @AndyMoulton
    @AndyMoulton ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So we got the Optima Mid, and now the Fantom CRC-II, both 4WDs. My guess is they'll give us a 2WD next, maybe the Turbo Ultima?

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Turbo Ultima 🤔… hope so.. I don’t have my Ultima anymore so a turbo Ultima would be a nice replacement

    • @AndyMoulton
      @AndyMoulton ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RCRetro I still have to build mine!

  • @allpraisetothemosthigh7770
    @allpraisetothemosthigh7770 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks great, really cool!

  • @Ah87100
    @Ah87100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks nice 😊I haven’t built mine yet. I also like building off camera.

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว

      I enjoy it more... take my time... really get to know the parts and build lol... sounds like I'm talking about something else lol... but yes... agreed.

  • @isaiahfurrow7414
    @isaiahfurrow7414 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the Ultima and Turbo Optima, not sure if I will do the Mid, my LHS has one on the shelf, along with the Beetle and some others... I'd probably do the Beetle and hold off for a LWB later on.
    As for future releases, I hope for another Ultima, the Turbo or Ultima 2, or.... I also really hope they make a Truck in the Legendary Series...
    Cheers!

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too. I’d love one of there vintage monster trucks to be released.

  • @trevorfurlotte
    @trevorfurlotte ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this track a lot more than the track that shall not be named.

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂

  • @robertless6404
    @robertless6404 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazingly Awsome..

  • @traxxasfans
    @traxxasfans ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job

  • @kenblockx2010
    @kenblockx2010 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i hope they do the optima mid custom special or the ULTIMA PRO XL

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. 2 good choices…

  • @rj.ch.
    @rj.ch. ปีที่แล้ว

    one of my very favorite cars

  • @robertwatsonbath
    @robertwatsonbath 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome! ;)

  • @simonz28
    @simonz28 ปีที่แล้ว

    i loved mine so much i bought another one ,so now i have a nib and a runner

  • @JCos71
    @JCos71 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any thought about getting a reproduction set of the original tires for the release?

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a set of Marwan tires. I got a custom painted body on the way for the optima mid. So I have a runner body and shelf queen body. When it’s on display, I’ll put the repro tires

  • @schuttrostig5729
    @schuttrostig5729 ปีที่แล้ว

    Handles phantastic. I think the next release will be pro-ultima, as the turbo ultima had the strange platinum shocks which were not good. But maybe they call it turbo optima and bring it with the u-chassis and gold shocks, who knows.

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว

      Kyosho announced today the release of the Ultima SB dirt master. A modern buggy platform with a retro look.
      www.bigsquidrc.com/teaser-kyosho-1-10-ultima-sb-dirt-master-2wd-buggy/

  • @rickardfrick2959
    @rickardfrick2959 ปีที่แล้ว

    Re-re Triumph would be rad!

  • @robambrose4199
    @robambrose4199 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like an optima mid.i like the colour way / livery

  • @muddfoot69
    @muddfoot69 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will other brands (AE/Losi) rims of today fit this car?

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are companies that make 2.2 wheels with 12mm hex for these Kyosho's which would allow you to use different tires from Proline or Jconcepts or any other RC company that produces tires. I have 2.2 wheels on my Kyosho Javelin with Jconcept Goosebumps.
      www.jcracingproducts.co.uk/wheels/kyosho-1/kyosho-optima

  • @richarddiiorio9640
    @richarddiiorio9640 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you use to dye the wheels?

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว

      rit dye... but you have to be careful. Black is easy to dye... any other color you have to use a little amount and not leave in as long. if you put to much dye in or leave in too long you will not achieve the color you are looking for and will come out too dark..

  • @mikebinsufficientfundsraci748
    @mikebinsufficientfundsraci748 ปีที่แล้ว

    Raider ARR would be a cool rerelease

  • @jamesmooney7538
    @jamesmooney7538 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did u get the se model????

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว

      This is the optima mid and some of the early kits came with the stickers for the TURBO Optima Mid. These are not the stickers/decals for the SE.

  • @allpraisetothemosthigh7770
    @allpraisetothemosthigh7770 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Warp speed build.. faster than they made the goof juice lol

  • @Klr81976
    @Klr81976 ปีที่แล้ว

    Turbo Optima Mid Se

  • @speckledjim_
    @speckledjim_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tell me thats the Ultimate warrior on the top shelf

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh it is. Macho Man is up there too in the opposite corner.

    • @speckledjim_
      @speckledjim_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RCRetro ha ha ha brilliant :)

  • @duncanmarriott2052
    @duncanmarriott2052 ปีที่แล้ว

    Turbo Ultima please

  • @bradkalman2353
    @bradkalman2353 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish I could have someone do the Rick dye thing for me because when I did it I ruined some rims and it ticked me off cuz it seems harder than it looks to do that but you guys make it look easy I should send them out to be done by somebody the next time I think about it.

  • @user-jf7uc7dw7o
    @user-jf7uc7dw7o หลายเดือนก่อน

    One way bearings are missed.

  • @RCKickschannel
    @RCKickschannel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would take a punt at the Kyosho LWB Mid next. The question is, what one? TOMS?

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว

      So correct me if I'm wrong, the Turbo Optima Mid SE and Special both come with the LWB? I know you have all of them and are far more knowledgeable since you have first hand experience with them. What's the difference between the SE and Special again?

    • @jamesstrutt2208
      @jamesstrutt2208 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RCRetro The SE is swb, the custom, special and custom special are lwb. 👍 Great video, nice to see the car running.

  • @UKPhoto111
    @UKPhoto111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The mic level seems to be kinda quiet inintially then very loud at the end. Maybe a program such as Audacity might help with the mic levels? Great video otherwise!

  • @DavidSmith-jj5pr
    @DavidSmith-jj5pr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just found out the last shipment of optima mids does NOT include the turbo optima mid decals or black wing. since that's the build I wanted, I'll be skipping this one, unfortunately. 🙁

    • @RCRetro
      @RCRetro  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can buy the black wing from KyoshoUSA and get turbo optima stickers from MCI. Don’t let that stop you from getting one of these

    • @DavidSmith-jj5pr
      @DavidSmith-jj5pr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RCRetro I could, I have a TBG body and MCI sticker set coming in the mail right now for my childhood Raider resto. you could order pretty much anything, but that's what's irritating about Kyosho deleting it from the kit. it's a premium product, not cheap. I think I'd rather wait to see what they ship next.
      as an aside, that reedy 19t and hobbywing 1060 esc in the turbo optima is fantastic. very smooth. Wish I could take it to the track, but it's reserved for nice soft surfaces like grass. can't beat up a car that goes on a display shelf! beatings are what traxxas is for 🤣

  • @bradkalman2353
    @bradkalman2353 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even though I like this track better than the other one I do miss that you aren't going to be running on the other track anymore I thought you should be able to travel to different tracks and have races more of them.

  • @bradkalman2353
    @bradkalman2353 ปีที่แล้ว

    It very good but it looks like it really should have more speed for that big track.

  • @bradkalman2353
    @bradkalman2353 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think they should make a new legendary line called the legendary basics for like the rocky the Pegasus The Icarus vehicles like that and then bring out that four-wheel steering one that they made exceed I forgot that should be on the regular legendary series but that's what they need to do because the basics would be cheaper like maybe 75 to $100 cheaper in kit form because of the materials in it.

  • @RCDEPENDANT
    @RCDEPENDANT ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd say you could buy a much better handling, more durable, modern kit for the same price.

    • @robambrose4199
      @robambrose4199 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please suggest some better ones for the same price.