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Ever since I started streaming (and recording some videos) in my basement, people have been curious about the arcade cabinet sitting in the background, which is a Sega Astro City cabinet from 1993. So I figured I would just do a video all about it. Originally I was just going to give a brief overview of the cabinet and play a few games, but "brief" and "Classic Gaming Quarterly" don't really go together. So in this video I'm going to talk about Japanese "candy cabinets" and their significance in Japan versus what we had here, we're going to replace the Seimitsu LS-56 joystick in my control panel with a Sanwa JLF (which we're going to modify with some PERFORMANCE-BOOSTING parts), we're going to add dampers to the buttons, and we're going to clean up the wiring in the control panel by adding a new player 2 harness. Only then am I going to give you a tour of the cabinet, and then we'll play games for about an hour.
I bought the joystick and other control panel parts from FocusAttack.com. Other parts for this cabinet have been purchased from SmallCab.net, who still sells some NOS Sega candy cab parts.
Show notes:
- This is by far the most work I have ever put in to a CGQ+ video. I worked on this episode for about 2 weeks.
- The new camera (that Patreon fundage paid for, thank you!) is what allowed me to record CRT footage so cleanly. The Panasonic GH5 allows you to make micro adjustments to the shutter speed, so that you don't get a rolling picture (or whatever you want to call it) effect. So the Neo-Geo footage looks perfect. Unfortunately I forgot to re-adjust the shutter speed when I switched to a different PCB (refresh rate is determined by the game, not the monitor) so there is some minor imperfection in the other gameplay footage. Still looks good though, in my opinion.
- Speaking of gameplay footage, everything was shot at 30fps, so that's why transparency effects are not preserved. Coury told me that he likes how CRT footage looks at 30fps, and he's smarter than I am, so I just did what he told me. I think it turned out looking pretty awesome.
- I didn't mention it in the video, but while shooting everything, a SEGA neon sign that I had ordered showed up in the mail. So that's why in some shots you see that framed SamSho2 artwork on the wall, and in others you see the sign. It is a real neon sign (not LEDs or anything) but is not vintage. I got it on eBay for about $85 shipped.
- Although I didn't record them, some other improvements were made to the cab during the time that I was making this episode. For instance, the control panel didn't have it's original locks (none of the locks on the cab were original when I got it) when I was installing the joystick, but a couple of days later new locks showed up, so I went ahead and popped them in.
- The coin return button on the front of the coin mech door was completely frozen, probably from rust. The same package that had the new locks in it also had a new coin return button, so I installed that as well.
- Lastly and maybe most importantly, when I got this cab it did not come with the key for the coin bucket door. These locks are individually-keyed (unlike the other locks on the cabinet), so there's no way to get a replacement key unless you know the lock's serial number. I finally drilled the lock on the door, and was able to see the coin bucket area for the first time. I was curious how high the number would be on the coin meter, but was also shocked that the coin bucket was still in the cab!
- The coin mech wasn't working properly (which didn't matter because if I put coins in the machine I wasn't going to be able to get them back out), but I got that all adjusted as well, although as you can see it still needs to be fine-tuned. I could buy a new coin mech for not too much money, but why not try to preserve the original one? Anyway, prior to this I had all of my games set to "free play". I think it's a lot cooler to be able to use coins, though.
- The only arcade board that I own that we didn't get out was Street Fighter II: The World Warrior, which would have just been redundant since we played SFIIT. I do have quite a few Neo-Geo carts, but I felt like three was enough.
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This is a ridiculously long video with a lot of information in it, so here's a time index so that people can skip around.
0:15 Intro/Background
11:03 Prepping the Sanwa JLF for Installation
17:24 Control Panel Overview
19:38 Joystick/Button Damper/Harness Installation
28:20 Checking Out the Marquee
29:56 Monitor Overview
31:48 Inside the Cab (Power Supply/Coin Mech/Coin Bucket & Meter)
36:52 Mounting/Changing a PCB
39:15 Pulstar (Neo-Geo)
48:40 Shock Troopers (Neo-Geo)
1:03:02 Strikers 1945 Plus (Neo-Geo)
1:11:46 Final Fight (Capcom CPS)
1:23:05 Street Fighter II' Turbo Hyper Fighting
1:31:17 Golden Axe
Skipping is for the weak. I will watch it all.
Hi Chris! I am catching up on all your streams from past 6 months and i noticed that CGQ Live Ep. 27, 38 and 39 are not in your streams playlist.
@@saratov99 Hey man, sorry I just saw this. Fixed. Thanks!!
@@CGQPlus You are very welcome! Can't wait for a new flashback episode! Also why don't you make a Let's read magazine episode about early 90's PC gaming to mix usual console magazins.
Thanks, I really didn't know anything about arcade cabinets and learned a lot.
Gilius over the fire never gets old. Thanks to you I do it when I play Golden Axe now.
I'm 1 minute in, and I can already tell that this episode is too good for me to just "breeze through" this morning. I'm stopping it here, and I'm going to wait until I can sit down with it this afternoon and give it the full attention it deserves. What a great Father's Day gift this is.
Happy Father's Day, Jonathan!
Dang, Chris, this is amazing! I'm only 10 minutes in to the video and already love it. From a technical perspective, the way you do text inserts, to scrolling pictures, it looks so professional. Even more importantly though, you're super thorough with your research and explanations! You make me want to be a better content creator!!!
Thanks, Darrell. Honestly, the editing software that I use makes it really easy for me to look smarter than I actually am, but I still appreciate the compliment!
Rewatching this.... Thinking fourth dimensionally about putting something together for when my kids get a little older. This is awesome and super helpful.
03:53 It’s the third cab. Their first Jamma offering was just called plain old City, but it is much rarer than the later models.
I have that exact same Cabalero deck. My dad bought me that model back in the 80's which I destroyed. So It was awesome when P&P reissued them. Nice cab, x2 :)
Hey Chris, Turbo Hyper fighting edition was Capcom USA's attempt at making a game that was the "definitive" version of the game with speed, Chun-Li fireballs and air hurricane kicks. After seeing bootleg versions of the game coming out of Asia with similar attributes. The idea was to make an official version so that arcade owners would have a similar experience without buying bootlegs. Oh and btw press "start" to select original colours for characters.
"We built this city,
We built this city on JAMMA loom"
What a gorgeous cabinet. Glad to see it's being well cared for (not that I would expect anything less from this guy).
Hi Chris! I'm from The Republic of Ireland and I only discovered your stuff since lockdown and you have helped me through it buddy!! I absolutely love the flashback episodes!! Keep up the great work and stay safe😎✌
I love Ireland! Had a wonderful vacation there a few years ago. You have a beautiful country. Glad you like the show, and you stay safe too!
that's awesome you found the show, it's so good!
Since I don't have the space (or the money) I made an Astro City arcade stick art for my MadCatz Fightstick. Awesome video as always and thanks for the great info.
"Metric instead of standard." Made my day. 😂 A nice machine that is for sure.
Sir, your CRT filming game is impressive, that MS9-29 looks glorious.
Thanks. I got some good tips from MLiG.
Love this man, especially all the little neat facts. Shock troopers looks amazing on the Astro City cabinet!
Very fun just to hear you give your journey and knowledge of your setup. Thanks, Chris!
Nice. Always wanted an Astro City. My Sanwas are set up the same way. Octo gate, Kowal oversized actuator, 2lb spring. Silent buttons in my sticks too...
Thank you so much Chris for doing such an in depth video! I thoroughly enjoyed this.
9:45 "There were a man who try to make his skill ultimate" 🤣🤣🤣
I mean, who doesn’t want to make his skill ultimate?
Frickin’ fantastic. I hope to one day pick up an Astro City
Love the in-depth look at your cabinet! I've always wanted one at home. Without the space or the know-how to maintain one though, I'll just live vicariously through videos like this. =)
Thanks for taking the time to put this video together.
I’m catching up on the episodes, but after watching you work on this I now feel kind of bad for all those arcade sticks that I worked over and hit in frustration.
Thanks for the content.
Amazing video Chris, I learnt so much about the cabinets and the standards in Japan. Super interesting! There's also a ton of neo geo games I now want to play!
Really enjoyed this both relaxing and informative to watch. Always wanted to know how these none game specific arcades worked. Fantastic selection of games too.
The camera-in-front-of-CRT setup looks great. This would be better than A/D conversion for gameplay streaming, IMHO
Love it, Chris! This might be my favorite CGQ+ vid yet; I'm learning so much...
Since it's so long, I'll be watching throughout the day. Thanks for the Father's Day present, buddy. I needed something like this today.
Thanks, man! Glad you're enjoying it so far. Happy Fathers' Day!
I’ve never seen anyone use a screwdriver so fast. Lol. Great video. Enjoyed it a lot.
Great video Chris. Very informative and incredibly interesting 👍
this is amazing. I've always wanted to have an arcade cabinet (dream would be either one of those SNK or Nintendo 5-in-1 game ones). But alas no room.
Great stuff. Love old arcades
Your basement is slick looking. Digging the arcade marquees.
Thanks, dude!
Awesome video! Also hell yeah Windy Gaming sticker! 🤘
I never knew that you could enter cheat codes into Arcade machines until I watched this video!!
Awesome cabinet! Awesome content creator!
Thanks for this video. I have a New Astro City and also would like to replace the sticks. Nice to have this as a reference.
Great work Chris. I’ve got a neo cab and now I want to check out shock troopers.
Another really informative video, you really broke down the arcade cabinet experience, also really great game selection, will have to try these out on the #MiSTer 😀👍🎮
Great overview of your Astro City! I got a pretty screaming deal on a New Astro City years back. It needs some work (monitor gets power but doesn't show anything), but I just never found the time to work on it. It's still sitting in my parents' garage. I'd bring it to where I'm living now, but my roommates already have two New Astro Cities, one Astro City, one Egret, and several Japanese rhythm game machines throughout the house so there's no room for mine.
Ahh thankyou talking about arcade hardware makes me warm and fuzzy SANWA JLF.. =)
i'm about to get my own Astro City - this was so helpful and well made!
Awesome, man. Congrats!
We’re coming over, it’s arcade night at your house. 😊
I seen that toys R us tag on the wall pretty cool 👍
Great stuff man. Wish I could get one of those, maybe some day (I don't really need more toys, my wife would say).
Grwat vid! Informative. I watched it all :)
That scream in _Golden Ax_ is David Russo getting stabbed in the hamstring by Sylvester Stallone in _First Blood_
I haven't asked about it, but I'm glad you made the video.
love this video, thank you
The best cabinet!!!it’s beautiful!
Same concept as adding a short throw shifter on a car . Pretty cool 😎
Great video. Keep up the great content
Man pulse star looked amazing sorry if I miss typed the name . Crazy graphics for those times .
Very cool video!
Awesome setup. I recently picked up an atgames legends ultimate. It’s not on the level of this, but it’s a nice gateway to get the toes wet.
What arcade forums do you visit? I check craigslist often but never finding anything too good.
The Arcade Museum forums are the best place to look for stuff for sale. The Arcade Otaku forums are great if you're looking for Candy Cab info.
Keep it going bro .. 💯 good history...
Great stuff
Interesting joystick information, never really thought about all the mechanics that bring it all together. As a Street fighter fan, I always loved the cabinets that had the shorter shaft and round ball joystick design in combination with concaved buttons. Also I never noticed the clicky sound of the joystick micro switches, is this just something you don’t hear or feel once everything is set in place?
I was never a fan of the longer bat style joysticks for fighting games as I felt they had a longer throw and just not much weight or springiness to them. Oddly enough they seemed to come standard on all fighting games very few had the ball joysticks.
pulstar was designed by former members of irem RTYPE team , top game on Neo geo even now
Technically companies sold conversion kits for arcade cabinets "Pac-Man to Ms. Pac-Man being being the most popular by far" but clearly not quite this pop it in and swap it out concept that this utilized. There also was Data East's Deca standard which used Cassette Tapes but it never caught on to my knowledge. Oh and don't forget the Neo Geo. That sucker much like it's less powerful cousin the NES derivatived Nintendo Play Choice-10 had interchangeable cartridges too. Though you were limited to the whims of the company who manufacturered the machines themselves, these I think we're more free game.
Very cool video, and unique for your channel. Even though I don't expect to own an arcade cabinet anytime soon, it was interesting see the "guts" of the machine and hear about the different options for parts and configurations.
If I did have a machine, I'd absolutely want to use coins instead of just setting it to free play. Much more authentic. I'd probably try to rig mine up to take Chuck-E-Cheese tokens! How'd you get all the 100 yen coins?
Really enjoyed this one. I'd love to see an Astro City Livestream.
Thanks! I've just built up the 100 yen coins over time. Some I got from a Japanese co-worker, some I got from a guy who went to Japan on vacation. I'm always looking to add more to the pile.
My 'grails for Japanese cabs is a Taito Vewlix and a Blast City
*Amazing !*
Wrong a few times:
AStro City is not Segas third gen cab, it was the "sega City" wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/Sega_City (featured in Yakuza 6), then Aero, then Astros.
Taito Egrets are not sought after, Egrets 2 specially must be the most common cabs in Japan, after the , Astros and Blast Citys.
The Sega City does pre-date the Aero City, but was a low production run cabinet that few people have even heard of, while the Aero was manufactured in decent numbers. Regarding the Egret II, I didn't say it was rare, I said it was sought-after.
Want one of these so bad
Hyper street fighter 2 the anniversary edition lets you pick your level of turbo and has the refinenments. It also lets you pick from all character iterations.
That monitor looks like it's in excellent condition
I found out that in Final Fight when you are attacking while holding down you will also throw the enemy.
You mention “the Forums” at the beginning. Which forums specifically? I’d like to follow them myself.
wooo my dream ,, the only candy i own is a simple clone ,, weche mini baby but i love it
Awesome cabinet. Thank you for sharing. Have you considered putting a Mister FPGA inside?
Funny you should ask, because that’s exactly what’s in there now. It actually made all of my arcade boards obsolete...
@@CGQPlus That's awesome! So you feel the fpga cores are just as good?
@@CGQPlus Also, The RGB-PI has come a long way. OS4 is really good and run-ahead mode removes all the controller latency.
33:35 Metric IS STANDART :D
Not here, sadly.
Hey Chris, would you happen to have a list of all the different screws the astro city uses? I have one myself and would like to replace all the old rusted screws with new ones.
This is an awesome video btw. Thanks for posting.
They're in the manual. Towards the back where the diagrams are. It can be a little hard to read because a lot of it is hand-written, but it's usable. I ended up replacing most of the screws with stainless steel, but that's probably overkill. Zinc-plated is I'm sure fine. wiki.arcadeotaku.com/images/0/0a/AstroCityMan.pdf
I feel like it ended too soon 😕 . Was fun tho thanks man .
Did you try arcade with mame? How noticeable would the lag input be?
Thank you for making this long video. What monitor do you have inside the Astro City?
I don't recall. I believe it's a Nanao but I don't remember which model.
@@CGQPlus thank you. Can it do 480p?
What size bolts does the cab use?
1 question can you replace the tube for a 29 inch pc monitor or 32 inch pc monitor because monitors of today wil have less bezel so bigger screen inside the same frame but can that be done because today led monitors get less burn in
I dont know but im just curious
You could. You'd need an upscaler to display the video signal on a modern panel and you'd ideally need a 4:3 panel, and you'd have to modify the cab since it's set up for a curved screen. But yes you could do it.
Have you considered getting a MISTer in there? I want to say I've seen it done with a candy cab. That is essentially my "dream arcade" set up, if it is indeed possible.
Yes, that's what I have in there now.
@@CGQPlus Very cool! and thanks for the response.
Where can I buy one?
Question: Now that Windy is gone, anyone know where I can find one of these now? Monitor does not need to come with it, just the shell.
Arcade forums. I thought I saw one on Craigslist not too long ago. There aren't that many of them in the country, relatively speaking, so you're just going to have to be diligent in keeping an eye out.
@@CGQPlus Thanks friend, I just bought one. Road trip time lol looking forward to it :)
lol running into shackers on youtube
It needs a new coin bucket too.
Also no.
Hell yeah 👍
Woohoo!
Just kinda curious as to how you obtained your 100 yen coin stash?
Just kind of a little bit at a time. I'm lucky that a friend of mine has a Japanese wife, so they go to Japan occasionally, so I ask him for coins. I also work with a guy who is Japanese, so same thing. You can always try taking a shot and asking at the bank, and I'm told that coin dealers often have random foreign coins that they'll let you fish through. Apparently flea market coin dealers can be a good source. You can always just buy them on eBay, but you are going to pay a premium (much more than face value). But like I said in the video, you can also just put a coin mech in the cab that accepts American quarters...
@@CGQPlus I see. I imported 2 gachapon machines from Japan and thought about doing a few of the methods you just mentioned to get some 100 Yen coins. Before pulling the trigger on any of them, I thought I'd try asking a TH-camr that I'd been watching that actually inspired me to import the gachapon machines in the first place. He ended up being really cool about it, and after sending him some paypal money, he ended up sending me the equivalent amount in 100 Yen coins, as well as a bonus capsule toy! I was just curious as to how you ended up obtaining them. I am super jealous of your candy cab, and will hopefully be able to find one for myself once I move out of this one bedroom apartment and have space for it. I'm not necessarily looking for a good deal. I'm just looking to get one without too much inconvenience. Thanks for the highly detailed video! It's got me really excited for the future.
How timely your video. 🤔
The crt is amazing, is it a toshiba?
It's a Nanao. Pretty standard for Sega candy cabs.
@@CGQPlus and the chassis? looks too good
@@gabrielparra9250 Chassis is also a Nanao, yes.
And... that california methamphetamine must be really good
I don't get the joke, sorry...
@@CGQPlus Oh just when you are talking about what you are doing, and I'm sure you decided that it took to long in normal speed, so you sped it up, that's all. Not as fun to explain a joke, as lame as it might be :)
I need it
Most Americans dismiss the square gate because american cabinets had 8 way gates. And many unexperienced games will switch it out without really knowing about them just because it sounds logical to have an 8 direction guide because there is 8 possible directions and not 4.
The idea of a square gate is that the stick will move freely so you have good access to all microswitches and diagonals are easy because they are guided. The idea is to have free movement and feeling the microswitches. The octagonal gate kills the very idea of the Japanese stick style and the feeling the 8 notches feel annoying to me.
But you have a board with more games on it 2 right just more games on 1 board
He said a thousand dollars. hah! If you can find these now under 3k its a deal.
Really? If true, that’s ridiculous. An arcade cab is fun to own, but is absolutely not worth 3 grand.
I knew it golden axe 🪓 lol
Ill give you a batman comic and a jolt cola if you let me play metal slug 🐌!
$450 is CHEAP.... Candys about 5 years ago were around 600-800 and now they are 1000+
Seimitsu ls 56 are for shrumps not original to that cab, they put ls-32 s in those cabinets.
Holy shit! I just noticed that Thrasher, the first level boss in _Final Fight_ looks like a roided up Stevie Wonder. I wonder if that's offensive...?
Aw man octagon gate :(
8 corners vs. 4 corners. That means it's twice as good!
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Sand it and primer it.Then Paint it.
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