@@fjfeuankcnncne7663 Time has never been more relative. When this all started I wondered "Will this be a really weird chapter in the history books? How will they describe it to people that never had their life put on hold?" Now I'm wondering how the hell we are even supposed to go back to living again.
My last IT job switched from very private cubicles to an open office design, and it was the worst experience I've ever had. Even our callers could hear the cacophony of conversations all taking place simultaneously. "Increased collaboration" became coworkers routinely asking me "are you on the phone??" (the answer is yes) instead of using Skype. This was a high paying job in a successful company, but you'd think we were an offshore call center.
Yeah, Covid’s accelerated this video tremendously. There’s no purpose in having an office building if you can’t even house your workers in it. Might as well go completely virtual
@@unregisteredhypercam1327 I don't think they meant to imply that artists are stupid. Just that intelligence isn't entirely necessary for many forms of art.
Cubicles, open concepts, work at home, all seem to have the same result. It's almost like the requirement of being indentured as a serialized piece of easily replaceable machinery for 40 years has some adverse effect on your psyche, regardless of the circumstances under which the servitude occurs.
Not really. And you will be always a replaceable machinery. I look if it comes to a Job, if its worth to spend my time, for the Company and work for them if i get the chance. And home office far outweighs all other options. And made, for me, all other option pointless. I work to live. But i don't live to work.
@@your-username-here2308 Just remember, you're one of the few who get to make the choice of a home office. I either spend my life in open office hell, or crammed behind my work laptop in my 1 room rental. We are just drones, and you've been able to afford yourself the freedom of feeling slightly less like a drone. Good job, you're in a slightly less shit situation than the rest of us.
@@christianfaux736 You know as well as I do that any and every business/corporation gives no fucks about you at all. You are a piece of machinery they install as a method of generating income for the shareholders and investors. If you died tomorrow they would just get another human and you would not be missed. You probably hate your job just as much as everyone else. You don't go there because you have fun, you go there because you have to. I get it that you're at a loss of how life could be any other way because this is just what you're used to and how it's been, but don't pretend that a system that forcefully extracts a third of your life just to generate money for everyone but yourself (utilities, mortgages, car payments, etc.) is a perfect and flawless system.
@@GuitarOwnsDrums i agree. i also hate the idea that being ‘replaceable machinery’ is an acceptable default for those of us not born into wealth or luck. i do like the sentiment that it can be a mutually beneficial relationship… however that is dependent on both being lucky enough to stumble in to a job you enjoy, and being fortunate enough to turn that in to a career opportunity for promotion rather than stagnation
Man this needs an extra update for 2020-2021, since there'd been studies, surveys, and coverage on post-pandemic remote working trends (with more offices going away, it seems like).
@@user-pq4bb4iu9m yup. But it's happening now:) so far a lot I've said over the last year is here. My wife didn't believe gas would be 5 bucks and she paid 5.19 this am
This show really just emphasises to me that when mankind finds a way to "fix" a problem it usually just makes twenty thousand more new problems. That's not depressing at all. Thanks a lot, Ordinary Things!
Exactly that. Two reasons that spring to my mind (there might be way more) is 1. People dont take lessons from the past and 2. People only see everything as good/bad/fix etc. these absolute terms and dont view everything in terms of pros and cons that should be weighed.
4. I don't think that employers would have accepted any other new idea that didn't at the bare minimum either result in more productivity or fewer expenses. And when those two are the criteria you judge something by, then worker comfort will just end up becoming a lucky, unintended side-effect.
or maybe it is just that humans are not built for rotting away at offices... sitting there whole day dying of boredom minimum precise physical movement... constant stress but without any sense of anticipation of danger or anything. evolution didnt prepared mankind to rot away at office desks, thats it
And so he writes, with a stuffed belly, from his mobile phone that no one from a century ago would have the luxury to have about how humanity is trash. God, the calamity is unbearable for these poor modern people.
Yeah I did some work in one of those once and it just looked like a whole bunch of people getting in each other's way while being completely falsely kind to each other
They both have their ups and downs. Right now I'm working at a "wage cage" kinda office, and the 2 people i sit closest to and have about the only interaction with outside of my breaks are absolute dick bags. I'd prefer to be able to pick the people i interact with to some extent right now. But the grass is always greener am i right?
@@jamesluna5914 I worked at three different ones, but I would still take working in customer support over sales and cold calls any day. the trainings for them... brrrr. all of the customers telling me to go get raped and then kill myself don't even compare to shit that sales agents deal with even from their own kind.
Tbh, its ideal if you actually run your own business and are a specialized professional. Then again, few professional occupations would both be in demand enough to justify opening your own business while simultaneously not requiring you to be in a specific office most of the time. Ironically, I think building designers (the bad straight-line artists) might be such an occupation.
@@nickstone1167 Nobody's saying gig jobs are inherently bad. The problem is they're becoming the new norm and they are least stable in income and employment security. Gig jobs used to relate to very specific professions or additional income side-jobs.
@@carrolloutdoors4764 They pay building engineers poorly, what? Must be a cheap cost of living state or low experience, cuzz that is never what I've heard.
I'm an architect (not practicing tho) and hate corporate culture. I was aware of many of the things you talked about and you're very very right. I just don't get how people can be okay with the things they put us through. And how even though we're the 95% of the population, we can't change the dynamics.
I started office life in the era of "open plan everything" and I'm jealous seeing all those cubicles. With open plan, you see and hear everything all the time, which is even more a nightmare if you have ADHD. Hot desking makes it even worse.
I think hot desking would be the final straw for me. When I started in my job ten years ago, we were in a tiny, stinky, 40-year old shack. Biggest office was six people. Now its 24 people in a shiny new place with minimalistic dividers in between. Productivity has suffered, the "team" feeling is gone, and almost everyone would rather go back to the smelly place. Despite the fact that coffee is paid for by the company in the new office.
@@kain0mthey added dividers? Interesting. Most modern day offices have transformed into a very open plan, "friendly" environment. Almost too friendly, it feels fake. Everything always insanely clean. Seems like a bribe to have to work good, because we get free barista coffees etc. Only just starting working in an office 4-5 months ago, and already after visiting 3 of the companies NZ offices, it's clear that they all follow the same corporate, wanna-be-friendly/inclusive feeling
@@MisterM2402 well that sounds fucking horrible. Especially for me, who probably has ADHD and needs all the help establishing a routine that I can get.
I hate working from home , maybe if I were further along in my office career it would be nicer? I find it far more lonely and depressing than going into the office.
Remote work isn't sunshine and rainbows, its basically large corporations offloading their rent and utility costs onto their employees without having to pay them more.
I work in tech... Zoom has been a shit show, but now that we're doing a staggered return,we can work from home if we are sick and still feel well enough to work but not enough to come in (like cold or waiting for covid test) instead of using sick leave..
Not to mention that they aren't responsible for your rights. They are freely allowed to breech them by giving you insane demands and hours within dangerous buildings/situations. If you get injured, they don't pay a cent. And since you are your own company, legally, it was all your fault all along. This is all just a step back in worker's rights.
I met one recently. They were so happy with their project. I told them that "it was ticking all the right boxes" I forget that my delivery can sometimes be so ironic that it sounds genuine. Their facebook post went live. I then posted the George Takei "oh my" meme... Given that this was a local council project, I'll probably never work in this town again, or get any grant funding... But still it was an Andy Kaufmanesque dedication to the bit on my part, and only a joke that was funny to none other than myself... Worth it, and I regret nothing! I think they canned the project... Not heard much about it since 🤣😂🤣
Morale of the story: literally every step foward attemping to improve the office working coditions, has corporately exploited to made it worse and more profitable for the overlords.
@@Darth_Insidious And for that reason, every innovation and step forward we’ve made has been impeded and degraded by greedy businessmen. Just look at the tech industry. Planned fucking obsolescence. When will it end
That's why they hate labor unions. Labor unions force the greedy pigs at the top of the corporate pyramid scheme to share their wealth with people who actually do the hard work. As a general rule, nobody who makes ten times more than you has a right to tell you your demands for higher pay are selfish or unreasonable as they leech off your labor.
Ive been working remotely for the past 9 months, I live alone and Covid distancing compounds the isolation. I sometimes walk around grocery stores just to be out and around people... though we don't talk. It sucks.
Seek out activities people are doing in online groups. For example, I think there's an uptick in people playing pen-and-paper RPGs in voice chat on Discord. It doesn't replace face-to-face interaction, but it could help.
get into video games and discord. Sometimes my friends and I work and/or study together over discord. We'll even have periods of time where we work quietly without talking for like a hour. It's just nice to know someone's just a holler away on your microphone. After everyone is done we will play video games or watch something together using the streaming option.
Y'know, I unironically say, COVID is the best thing that happened to office work in decades. 2020 was a great year for me, I have so much free time working from home - when I had empty hours at the office I could only browse the net or such, now I can watch shows or play games or do the dishes! Also the company saves money too since now they don't have to pay for office loans, cleaning ladies, kitchen services, heating, electricity bills... I do hope that home office becomes permanent as an option from now on.
60's~90's were like "alright give us 40 years of your life and then you get to retire and chill" now it's like "alright give us ͟͝7̸̡́c̷̢̕͢v̢́͟͢à̷͡ years of your life and then"
Can you clarify what you mean about Blair raiding pensions? I know that in the US, workers are forced to pay into a scheme called social security, but the government uses the money as soon as it gets it (as collateral to continue going into debt). The money is not put away into a pension fund, as was implied by the name.
I love working from home. My commute is now the 10 seconds it takes to shamble from the bed to my PC. I'll wear what I want to, have breakfast when I want to, do chores when I want to, or go to shops in between that are closed after working hours. Oh, and when it's raining a pisston out of the sky, I'm all dry.
I've been in open office environments for the most part, and I'd prefer cubicles as well honestly. In open offices, it's like your supervisors are constantly watching you, and everything you do is being judged. If you have an illness or you're on your period, how exactly do you clandestinely slink off to do your thing when there are like ten people who constantly see you from the corner of their eye? I solved the solution by putting my meds and pads into a money-purse and then pretending that I'm going off to buy snacks. But I used to have a colleague who was type 1 diabetic, and he had a whole world of problems injecting himself with insulin before lunch somewhere where people wouldn't notice, and not in the bathrooms either. I prefer remote atm too because the worst aspect of working was having to commute for 1,5h every morning (and I'm too poor to afford an apartment that's closer or even a car). So I can get up at decent hours, don't have to worry about my shoewear or make-up, it's much more relaxed. Of course, there's another downside, namely video-conferences D:
Yeah. I like also cubicles because nobody can spy on me doing my dark evocations in order to slowly kill people who are adjacent to my cubicle thinly veiled as radiation poisoning too!
@@matthewmckean8771 (Former?) Office worker here. Depends on the role (I'm Cust. Service) but I sit at my desk, draft/send emails and get invited to conference calls/meetings where I'm not needed. Occasionally we have parties, and gather around the kitchen area to talk about work as ask about each other's weekends.
I work in a lab and I’m so glad I do. I couldn’t sit in a desk/cubicle for 8 hours a day and stare at a screen. I love working with my hands! And the best part is it’s nearly impossible to bring work home
Thank you almighty TH-cam algorithm for showing me this absurdly funny guy! He's absolutely hilarious and I love that instead of poking at just internet trends, he's educating us while also trolling the topics. Brilliant!
It wasn't until 6:48 that I realized there was never going to be a transition to talking about the show "the office" and that the video was just about offices in general.
To be fair, as an introvert who is easily startled when I'm super focused on anything, a kind of cubicle farm with individual doors and artificial windows would be awesome as individual spaces.
Yeah, cubicles don’t sound that bad. The problem is less cubicles and more having things set up so that the only time you’d leave is to go to the bathroom or leave at the end of the day.
13:01 "Maybe the best thing to do is to get rid of the office altogether, well, for a lot of people, that's exactly what's happening" *checks upload date*
When I become a corporate drone myself and start earning value rectangles the first thing I'm gonna do is become your patron. You're criminally undersubscribed fr.
So true the first six months of my job we were in a big building with lots of nooks and crannies. But the culture and the feeling around the place was better. Then we moved to an open plan supposedly agile and collaborative workspace. All of a sudden it was like working in a library. Either we were annoying each other or we were all so concerned about annoying each other that everybody would have headphones in and there would be no talking whatsoever. It’s sold as agile and collaborative, what it is is cheap. And then they bring in management consultants and team building exercises to Massage your emotions into convincing you that you are wrong and that it’s the workers own fault because they don’t have a sunny disposition which would fix everything.
Solution: become a unionized garbage man or construction worker, work ten hours a week for $50,000 a year, and retire with a pension. "But I can make more money as a marketing consultant!" That may be true _after_ you've paid off your student debt.
[With remote working] soon we'll be free of the office altogether! Isn't it nice? If the video had a happy ending.... (coronavirus has entered the chat)
This was just the kind of optimistic boost I needed to make me forget about losing my freelancing career to the pandemic and being forced to continue living with my parents until I die alone probably. No gray walls for me, unless you count the basement I've been staying in. Thanks! :]
@@GabrielBacon Job offers and potential relationships keep trying to stop me but I'm strong willed and refuse to give up on my dreams of dying down here sad and broke. Thanks for asking!
@@busteronlyfullscreenmode Quite possibly the most freedom anyone in society has today! At least you have family nearby, time to use as you'd choose. No one has upward social mobility. Enjoy the freedom, ignore the stigma! In a society where meaning and purpose are eroded, only the free man gets to determine what those things are. The rest are consigned to their fate of nullification. Let the dead bury their dead. You have the chance to live. It's only once we've lost everything that we're free to do anything. I heard of this guy who makes soap from his basement, while working two other jobs. He also runs something else, but I can't talk about that. Everyone else is a product of our times quite literally. You my basement dwelling amigo are at the vanguard of change, ahead of the curve, and from your dank basement you have the widest vantage point of our cultural miasma, which means you're the most primed to find the way forwards and into new horizons while everyone else clamours for the highest desk in a dark glass tower at the heart of a neon and concrete cesspit of flawed dreams and failed conquests. The lowest ape at the base of the tree is also the one most likely to learn to walk on two legs, weild fire like a Promethean legend, and evolve beyond their simian peers that squabble for their spot in the sun at the apex of the canopy. The canopy is their limit, the sky, the horizon, the ocean, and space itself is yours to venture into. The modern shaman on the precipace of the known journey, and the unknown void of uncertaintity. A space monkey ready to head into the obsidian, star speckled infinite. Revel in your times oh Promethean soul, remember who you are!
12:46 the building I’m at has everyone facing a corner but you can just spin your chair around and talk to your colleagues. So you don’t have to look at people but you can talk freely.
Ironically "that thing" appears to be an IBM 727 mainframe. My brain is like a collection of useless information that nobody will ever need, but, there it is.
“By 2020 it’s estimated that half of the British population will be working from home remotely” This simultaneously aged horribly and surprisingly well
:( working from home for 6 months. i work 3-4 hours more and my productivity is less because our company constantly have meetings as if we are together in a room. only difference is that i'm in my room instead of another room working 3 -4 hours more.
I was wondering if that epic matte painting from Tron would show up (at 12:13) --- I love that shot; there's a cubicle on the right foreground which has no door!
I could never work in an office. I spent 8 years working as a trolley collector at a supermarket until I figured out what I wanna do with my life. Iv now been in the events industry as a stagehand for 6+ years. Iv worked on some of the biggest concerts and musicals the world has seen. Has there been hard days? Yep Have I had to work 10, 12 even 18 hour days? You betcha Would I trade this for a cushy office job? Hell no
@@BlackSlimShady Yep. Was killing me inside, but I grew complacent. Luckily I managed to find a passion. That said, I'd probably prefer trolleys over a office job. I just hate the thought of being stuck in an office chair all day
I really enjoyed this, thanks for the entertaining and informative original content! You give me a bit of a Charlie Brooker vibe and that's a huge compliment! :)
I can't deal with open floor plans, I may as well do everyone elses work because it's all I can think of with everyone talking, walking by, making noise, etc. It's torture.
It'd be neat to come back to this after a time when the effects of covid on the working environment become more clear. I'd love to hear your take on it!
This is a good video and I'm glad it exists. very true and almost existentially scary Hopefully more folks come across it in the recommendations (which is why i'm commenting to help increase audience interaction)
This was incredibly informative and depressing. I swear I’m going to have to get lucky with some innovative idea or become a successful streamer and TH-camr to be remotely satisfied with life.
In a somewhat perverse way, I am glad that most of us now have to 'deal with' what I love having been doing for a decade or so. It also saves in office space costs and makes you more independent. On the other hand, the only party saving in this is the employer.
Yeah, we’re got a Covid Global Pandemic and a Mental Health Epidemic to compliment it. People are lonelier than ever, more depressed than ever, more suicidal than ever, and it’s not better in many areas. Office life was better, even though we hated it. Sometimes you just don’t know what you had until it’s gone
@@fgqgqlfqsfsffeff Actually, there were hundreds of studies about growing loneliness epidemic in the US before Covid. Covid was just an accelerant for an already huge and widespread problem. Even without Covid, many people don’t want to go back to doing things in person. This means that many interpersonal interactions did not happen, are not happening, and will not happen for many people. Social decline seems like an inevitability and mental health statistics seem to reflect it
"Golden mantra of modern life: you can't polish a turd" I suggest you read the Unabomber manifesto if you haven't done it already, it's right in that alley. I think you'd find it interesting, it's quite an esoteric reading You mentioned 4chan so it's possible you've already heard of it. Cheers!
A refreshing blend of Charlie Brooker wit delivered with Harry Hill style, whilst maintaining something unique to yourself. Love your content mate, been on a binge the past few weeks. Please keep up the good work. Can't wait to see where you take things!
12:52 very true. Fast PC with dual monitor in a cubicle was changed to "modern" open room with non-personal empty desks and a laptop. I quit, it was truly horrible.
I've recently found your channel. Love it! Thanks for your content. Love the amount of research and detail you put in. I'm a history buff so madd props
Thanks for coming to the office party! Remember to like, share, subscribe and drive safe. Be good to yourselves x
Love your videos man, keep going
will do dude!
it's not. I try to keep myself Ordinary
You had no idea what this would lead to with the Lockdown and all!
After almost a year of home office for so many people, I wonder where the office is gonna develop next after this whole plague situation is over
"By 2020, it's estimated that over half the British workforce will spend a good deal of their week working remotely." How prophetic.
Christ this comment is 8 months old. Has it already / only been 8 months. Wtf is time anymore
@@fjfeuankcnncne7663 Time has never been more relative. When this all started I wondered "Will this be a really weird chapter in the history books? How will they describe it to people that never had their life put on hold?"
Now I'm wondering how the hell we are even supposed to go back to living again.
Came here to make this exact comment
They knew. All of this was planned.
He predicted the future.
I thought this was about how the show The Office ruined my life.
Me too.
So did I
Same..
Yep me too
Unfortunately same here... QQ
My last IT job switched from very private cubicles to an open office design, and it was the worst experience I've ever had. Even our callers could hear the cacophony of conversations all taking place simultaneously. "Increased collaboration" became coworkers routinely asking me "are you on the phone??" (the answer is yes) instead of using Skype. This was a high paying job in a successful company, but you'd think we were an offshore call center.
Same
You’re a slave and don’t forget it! Sorry sorry I mean pizza party!
"By 2020 over half of the British workforce will be working remotely"
Ohh they will alright
Ikr? I was like, wait what year was this? Lol
3:12
well... i would said like everyone, not just half
Yeah, Covid’s accelerated this video tremendously. There’s no purpose in having an office building if you can’t even house your workers in it. Might as well go completely virtual
the thing is by 2022 it will probably only be 30%
Extra marital affairs you say! I have to get my self an office job!
I think your home office is where it's at my dude. thanks for stopping by
Wtf are u doing here bro
It’s the boy boysssss
Clown
I tried to start extra marital affairs but they always told me "I have a boyfriend". I gotta work on my game
This video needs a sequel.
"How offices went remote and then forced workers back to offices"
"Architects as social engineers instead of failed artists who could only draw in straight lines".
As an architect, I approve of this
Agreed
Nah Architects are respected more than artists, & you actually require a brain to be a architect
@@TheMauri0409 Why are artists stupid? Wouldn't creative work require lots of thinking?
@@unregisteredhypercam1327
I don't think they meant to imply that artists are stupid. Just that intelligence isn't entirely necessary for many forms of art.
@@bat6353 oh ok
Please tell me it's required for drawing, it's one of my hobbies
“By 2020, a lot of people will be working from home”
Oh my sweet summer child...
Aged like milk
@@hagridflower2907 or like a fine wine, depending on how you look at it
@@hagridflower2907 He was right though?
"Oh my sweet summer child" is part of the redditor starter pack
are you one ?
@@swaggerdagger8976 probably
Cubicles, open concepts, work at home, all seem to have the same result. It's almost like the requirement of being indentured as a serialized piece of easily replaceable machinery for 40 years has some adverse effect on your psyche, regardless of the circumstances under which the servitude occurs.
Not really. And you will be always a replaceable machinery. I look if it comes to a Job, if its worth to spend my time, for the Company and work for them if i get the chance. And home office far outweighs all other options. And made, for me, all other option pointless.
I work to live. But i don't live to work.
@@your-username-here2308 Just remember, you're one of the few who get to make the choice of a home office. I either spend my life in open office hell, or crammed behind my work laptop in my 1 room rental. We are just drones, and you've been able to afford yourself the freedom of feeling slightly less like a drone. Good job, you're in a slightly less shit situation than the rest of us.
What a shitty, cynical, lazy way of looking at gainful employment.
@@christianfaux736 You know as well as I do that any and every business/corporation gives no fucks about you at all. You are a piece of machinery they install as a method of generating income for the shareholders and investors. If you died tomorrow they would just get another human and you would not be missed. You probably hate your job just as much as everyone else. You don't go there because you have fun, you go there because you have to.
I get it that you're at a loss of how life could be any other way because this is just what you're used to and how it's been, but don't pretend that a system that forcefully extracts a third of your life just to generate money for everyone but yourself (utilities, mortgages, car payments, etc.) is a perfect and flawless system.
@@GuitarOwnsDrums i agree. i also hate the idea that being ‘replaceable machinery’ is an acceptable default for those of us not born into wealth or luck.
i do like the sentiment that it can be a mutually beneficial relationship… however that is dependent on both being lucky enough to stumble in to a job you enjoy, and being fortunate enough to turn that in to a career opportunity for promotion rather than stagnation
"By 2020 it's estimated that over half the workforce will spend most of their work week working remotely" I absolutely lol'd at that!
Wow wee!
They've been planning it for years
that made me rofl as i lmao'd! xD!
Prophetic
how did he know this
I was just recommended this video. This is without a doubt the best thing TH-cam's algorithm has granted me in the past few months!
ah, you're too kind. Thanks dude!
I was thinking the same thing! Except I had the misfortune of having to wait an extra entire year to see this gem!
Amen I praying to the algorith to gift me something new and boom the next day I saw one of his video and said fuck it...don't regret it
You never know. This could also be advertised and that could be the evil business of youtube?
@@jk770415 I got it recommended to. Gotta say it's a nice break from Dog Fart Cat Puke that often pops up.
Man this needs an extra update for 2020-2021, since there'd been studies, surveys, and coverage on post-pandemic remote working trends (with more offices going away, it seems like).
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Anyway..
@@Nikolai_The_Grolar *Hewo
Well well well, look who it is
Had no clue you watched this guy but I’m pleasantly surprised
@@ataphelicopter5734 do I know you
The 2008 financial oopsie-daisy is the best way that I’ve heard anyone describe an economic recession
The 2021 real estate bubble gonna be crazy too
@@bobboberson6664 no the 2021 fuckaroo is gonna be great
@@zero1zerolast393 great for big investment firms
@@bobboberson6664 One year off buddy
@@user-pq4bb4iu9m yup. But it's happening now:) so far a lot I've said over the last year is here. My wife didn't believe gas would be 5 bucks and she paid 5.19 this am
This show really just emphasises to me that when mankind finds a way to "fix" a problem it usually just makes twenty thousand more new problems. That's not depressing at all. Thanks a lot, Ordinary Things!
Exactly that. Two reasons that spring to my mind (there might be way more) is 1. People dont take lessons from the past and 2. People only see everything as good/bad/fix etc. these absolute terms and dont view everything in terms of pros and cons that should be weighed.
@@marianschoeller8764 3. sometimes things don't work that way. that's the life of a programmer.
4. I don't think that employers would have accepted any other new idea that didn't at the bare minimum either result in more productivity or fewer expenses. And when those two are the criteria you judge something by, then worker comfort will just end up becoming a lucky, unintended side-effect.
or maybe it is just that humans are not built for rotting away at offices...
sitting there whole day dying of boredom minimum precise physical movement...
constant stress but without any sense of anticipation of danger or anything.
evolution didnt prepared mankind to rot away at office desks, thats it
And so he writes, with a stuffed belly, from his mobile phone that no one from a century ago would have the luxury to have about how humanity is trash. God, the calamity is unbearable for these poor modern people.
I worked in one of those hipster "shared office spaces" for a couple years, It was so awful, I much prefer the Wage Cage tbh
Yeah I did some work in one of those once and it just looked like a whole bunch of people getting in each other's way while being completely falsely kind to each other
They both have their ups and downs. Right now I'm working at a "wage cage" kinda office, and the 2 people i sit closest to and have about the only interaction with outside of my breaks are absolute dick bags. I'd prefer to be able to pick the people i interact with to some extent right now.
But the grass is always greener am i right?
I much prefer living.
Why was it awful?
@@storrho Beats being an influencer scamming people for living
Do one on call centers.
I hate those jobs so much.
So cult like.
dang. that's a good idea
+ a whole lot of people who never held a job there don't understand what goes on inside
@@tertiaritus i worked there and it's hard as hell.
@@jamesluna5914 I worked at three different ones, but I would still take working in customer support over sales and cold calls any day. the trainings for them... brrrr. all of the customers telling me to go get raped and then kill myself don't even compare to shit that sales agents deal with even from their own kind.
@@tertiaritus can you explain more plz
As an introvert the lack of people sounds awesome. I found the lock down quite peaceful.
introverts are enemies of the people. How often have we heard mass murderers described as "He kept to himself, didn't socialize or say much."
I agree I want another one. Tired of interacting with everyone
@@eligreg99 ever since Covid, people have lost their minds.
Indeed it is😮😊
This video is too good. I will be filing a DMCA takedown notice. DMCA of course standing for Dope Motherloving Content Afoot
😎
criminally underrated comment
what’s this a crossover episode?
I've been switching off between your channels for the past few days and I'm trying to figure out how one of you voices both channels so seamlessly
I was wondering who this dude reminds me of,then you showed up,what a coincidence😂
Gig economy - avoids all the social benefits that full-time workers worked for a century before. It's a sweet deal for corporations.
spot on there
Tbh, its ideal if you actually run your own business and are a specialized professional. Then again, few professional occupations would both be in demand enough to justify opening your own business while simultaneously not requiring you to be in a specific office most of the time.
Ironically, I think building designers (the bad straight-line artists) might be such an occupation.
@@nickstone1167 no, its not. It pays awful
@@nickstone1167 Nobody's saying gig jobs are inherently bad. The problem is they're becoming the new norm and they are least stable in income and employment security. Gig jobs used to relate to very specific professions or additional income side-jobs.
@@carrolloutdoors4764 They pay building engineers poorly, what? Must be a cheap cost of living state or low experience, cuzz that is never what I've heard.
I'm an architect (not practicing tho) and hate corporate culture. I was aware of many of the things you talked about and you're very very right.
I just don't get how people can be okay with the things they put us through. And how even though we're the 95% of the population, we can't change the dynamics.
6:42. I love the 'Epstien didn't kill himself' in the wordcloud.
Nice find 👌
How did I JUST NOW get recommended this. Absolute gold dude. Nice work!
Welcome aboard! thanks for saying so!
I started office life in the era of "open plan everything" and I'm jealous seeing all those cubicles. With open plan, you see and hear everything all the time, which is even more a nightmare if you have ADHD. Hot desking makes it even worse.
I think hot desking would be the final straw for me.
When I started in my job ten years ago, we were in a tiny, stinky, 40-year old shack. Biggest office was six people. Now its 24 people in a shiny new place with minimalistic dividers in between. Productivity has suffered, the "team" feeling is gone, and almost everyone would rather go back to the smelly place. Despite the fact that coffee is paid for by the company in the new office.
@@kain0mthey added dividers? Interesting. Most modern day offices have transformed into a very open plan, "friendly" environment. Almost too friendly, it feels fake. Everything always insanely clean. Seems like a bribe to have to work good, because we get free barista coffees etc. Only just starting working in an office 4-5 months ago, and already after visiting 3 of the companies NZ offices, it's clear that they all follow the same corporate, wanna-be-friendly/inclusive feeling
What's hot desking? You don't have a fixed desk?
@@blakksheep736 Yeah, you have to book your desk every day and you're not guaranteed the same one each time.
@@MisterM2402 well that sounds fucking horrible. Especially for me, who probably has ADHD and needs all the help establishing a routine that I can get.
Remote working doesnt take you away from the office, it just brings the office to your home. You know, so you never REALLY get to leave
Wrong I can now move around more rather than having my ass on a chair all day.
This is why it's important to set hard rules on your working hours and document all your time spent on the job.
I hate working from home , maybe if I were further along in my office career it would be nicer? I find it far more lonely and depressing than going into the office.
Hank I watched you for like 15 years. No way you're ever doing office work
@@Null_Experis - its the difference between having a manager and managing ourselves. Turns out a lot of us have more trouble with self regulation.
Remote work isn't sunshine and rainbows, its basically large corporations offloading their rent and utility costs onto their employees without having to pay them more.
While enriching tech billionaires. Excellent point.
I work in tech... Zoom has been a shit show, but now that we're doing a staggered return,we can work from home if we are sick and still feel well enough to work but not enough to come in (like cold or waiting for covid test) instead of using sick leave..
I prefer it but I also wonder about the impact on wages.
Not to mention that they aren't responsible for your rights. They are freely allowed to breech them by giving you insane demands and hours within dangerous buildings/situations. If you get injured, they don't pay a cent. And since you are your own company, legally, it was all your fault all along. This is all just a step back in worker's rights.
Ooh I never thought of that...but can’t you claim stuff for tax exemption?
"Architects loved this philosophy as it made them feel like social engineers and not failed artists who could only draw straight lines."
HAHAHAHAHA
This took me out
Poetry
As an architect I can't really say he's wrong
I met one recently. They were so happy with their project. I told them that "it was ticking all the right boxes" I forget that my delivery can sometimes be so ironic that it sounds genuine.
Their facebook post went live. I then posted the George Takei "oh my" meme... Given that this was a local council project, I'll probably never work in this town again, or get any grant funding... But still it was an Andy Kaufmanesque dedication to the bit on my part, and only a joke that was funny to none other than myself... Worth it, and I regret nothing!
I think they canned the project... Not heard much about it since 🤣😂🤣
I thought artists were failed architects who cannot draw a straight line. Lol.
Morale of the story: literally every step foward attemping to improve the office working coditions, has corporately exploited to made it worse and more profitable for the overlords.
They only way that corporate would switch to it is if it was profitable.
@@Darth_Insidious And for that reason, every innovation and step forward we’ve made has been impeded and degraded by greedy businessmen. Just look at the tech industry. Planned fucking obsolescence. When will it end
That's why they hate labor unions. Labor unions force the greedy pigs at the top of the corporate pyramid scheme to share their wealth with people who actually do the hard work. As a general rule, nobody who makes ten times more than you has a right to tell you your demands for higher pay are selfish or unreasonable as they leech off your labor.
that's because they weren't trying to improve. they were trying to maximize profit - and they did.
Yay! Isn't capitalism great?
Ive been working remotely for the past 9 months, I live alone and Covid distancing compounds the isolation. I sometimes walk around grocery stores just to be out and around people... though we don't talk. It sucks.
talk to people and spread love you silly goose! Give compliments! Help folks!
Seek out activities people are doing in online groups. For example, I think there's an uptick in people playing pen-and-paper RPGs in voice chat on Discord. It doesn't replace face-to-face interaction, but it could help.
Hang in there my guy, we will get through this!
get into video games and discord. Sometimes my friends and I work and/or study together over discord. We'll even have periods of time where we work quietly without talking for like a hour. It's just nice to know someone's just a holler away on your microphone. After everyone is done we will play video games or watch something together using the streaming option.
I feel you dude.
Y'know, I unironically say, COVID is the best thing that happened to office work in decades. 2020 was a great year for me, I have so much free time working from home - when I had empty hours at the office I could only browse the net or such, now I can watch shows or play games or do the dishes! Also the company saves money too since now they don't have to pay for office loans, cleaning ladies, kitchen services, heating, electricity bills... I do hope that home office becomes permanent as an option from now on.
It won’t. The big kids have a massive position in commercial office space.
You WILL come to the office!!
"camp of concentration"
playing dangerously, I see
Watch out for Susan WOSHITSKI
60's~90's were like "alright give us 40 years of your life and then you get to retire and chill"
now it's like "alright give us ͟͝7̸̡́c̷̢̕͢v̢́͟͢à̷͡ years of your life and then"
Well, in the UK this can be blamed on Blair raiding private pensions, so now even if you retire your are poor.
@@testaccount4191 glad it's not just the US
@@Succadeez well..... i guess every cloud
Can you clarify what you mean about Blair raiding pensions? I know that in the US, workers are forced to pay into a scheme called social security, but the government uses the money as soon as it gets it (as collateral to continue going into debt). The money is not put away into a pension fund, as was implied by the name.
@@1ex1uger-prank-calls he taxed pensions, basically killing the private index linked pensions. Although this is a simplification
I love working from home. My commute is now the 10 seconds it takes to shamble from the bed to my PC. I'll wear what I want to, have breakfast when I want to, do chores when I want to, or go to shops in between that are closed after working hours. Oh, and when it's raining a pisston out of the sky, I'm all dry.
Not gonna lie, I thought this was gonna be about the TV series.
It's called "click bait"
@@failingnovelist6443 Is it though?
He gave you an 8 bit office jingle at the end, though!
@@failingnovelist6443 that's not really clickbait
Same here lol
6:43 Nice little easter egg
gold star to you. The FBI will with you shortly to deliver your award.
@@OrdinaryThings Yeah! I'll prepare some nice crudité for them.
Oh no, i know too.
“I looks like soon we’ll be free from offices all together!” -posted November 2019. If only he knew
I like having a cubicle. I get to decorate and no one bothers me.
I'm currently hybrid, 50% in my cubicle, 50% on my couch. It's a decent setup. I think I prefer 100% remote but the variety might be a good thing.
I've been in open office environments for the most part, and I'd prefer cubicles as well honestly. In open offices, it's like your supervisors are constantly watching you, and everything you do is being judged. If you have an illness or you're on your period, how exactly do you clandestinely slink off to do your thing when there are like ten people who constantly see you from the corner of their eye?
I solved the solution by putting my meds and pads into a money-purse and then pretending that I'm going off to buy snacks. But I used to have a colleague who was type 1 diabetic, and he had a whole world of problems injecting himself with insulin before lunch somewhere where people wouldn't notice, and not in the bathrooms either.
I prefer remote atm too because the worst aspect of working was having to commute for 1,5h every morning (and I'm too poor to afford an apartment that's closer or even a car). So I can get up at decent hours, don't have to worry about my shoewear or make-up, it's much more relaxed.
Of course, there's another downside, namely video-conferences D:
Yeah. I like also cubicles because nobody can spy on me doing my dark evocations in order to slowly kill people who are adjacent to my cubicle thinly veiled as radiation poisoning too!
@@pungoblin9377 interesting.
Do you have a shart xing sign like workaholics
I'm a chef, and sometime during rush hours or boring days i think to my self "I should have worked in an office"
I'm glad I am wrong.
Same....spending my entire adult life working in kitchens, I've always wondered what exactly people did in an office all day to fill 8 hours.
@@matthewmckean8771 (Former?) Office worker here. Depends on the role (I'm Cust. Service) but I sit at my desk, draft/send emails and get invited to conference calls/meetings where I'm not needed. Occasionally we have parties, and gather around the kitchen area to talk about work as ask about each other's weekends.
@@matthewmckean8771 we pretend to be really busy even if the actual work takes a couple of hours
I work in a lab and I’m so glad I do. I couldn’t sit in a desk/cubicle for 8 hours a day and stare at a screen. I love working with my hands! And the best part is it’s nearly impossible to bring work home
@@matthewmckean8771 i can read or study whatever i want when i don't feel like working
Thank you almighty TH-cam algorithm for showing me this absurdly funny guy! He's absolutely hilarious and I love that instead of poking at just internet trends, he's educating us while also trolling the topics. Brilliant!
I came for entertainment, I left with depression.
It wasn't until 6:48 that I realized there was never going to be a transition to talking about the show "the office" and that the video was just about offices in general.
Did you not see the hidden message behind his head
@@Level_No_Curve I guess not cause Idk what you're talking about.
@@Level_No_Curve when is it?
That’s why it’s mandatory to start the video and immediately scroll down to comments and spoil tf out of whatever you’re watching.
@@kaikingsland 648 look on the wall
I've now watched two vids from this guy and hes been telling the future....2-3 years ahead of time
To be fair, as an introvert who is easily startled when I'm super focused on anything, a kind of cubicle farm with individual doors and artificial windows would be awesome as individual spaces.
Yeah, cubicles don’t sound that bad. The problem is less cubicles and more having things set up so that the only time you’d leave is to go to the bathroom or leave at the end of the day.
So just give everyone a bloody room.
None of the mentioned ideas in the video sound bad. They were just executed horribly since efficiency is valued more than personal needs
So this is what existential dread feels like...
13:01 "Maybe the best thing to do is to get rid of the office altogether, well, for a lot of people, that's exactly what's happening"
*checks upload date*
Came for The Office, stayed organs being squeezed out like toothpaste
like "hot" toothpaste
This is so depressing. It's like "Hey this is pretty GOD AWFUL. But at least these other ideas are worse!"
When I become a corporate drone myself and start earning value rectangles the first thing I'm gonna do is become your patron. You're criminally undersubscribed fr.
It took me far to long to work out what value rectangles are
So true the first six months of my job we were in a big building with lots of nooks and crannies. But the culture and the feeling around the place was better. Then we moved to an open plan supposedly agile and collaborative workspace. All of a sudden it was like working in a library. Either we were annoying each other or we were all so concerned about annoying each other that everybody would have headphones in and there would be no talking whatsoever. It’s sold as agile and collaborative, what it is is cheap. And then they bring in management consultants and team building exercises to Massage your emotions into convincing you that you are wrong and that it’s the workers own fault because they don’t have a sunny disposition which would fix everything.
Solution: become a unionized garbage man or construction worker, work ten hours a week for $50,000 a year, and retire with a pension.
"But I can make more money as a marketing consultant!"
That may be true _after_ you've paid off your student debt.
Ok
Is it ever too late to start?
TFW university education is free for my country's citizens
Feelsbadforeveryoneelse.png :(
Where dafuq do u get paid almost 5k a month to take out garbage or stack some bricks?
@@bananasaur5209 literally anywhere, union jobs are awesome
[With remote working] soon we'll be free of the office altogether! Isn't it nice? If the video had a happy ending....
(coronavirus has entered the chat)
a blessing in disguise
This was just the kind of optimistic boost I needed to make me forget about losing my freelancing career to the pandemic and being forced to continue living with my parents until I die alone probably. No gray walls for me, unless you count the basement I've been staying in. Thanks! :]
A year later now. You’re still with your parents huh? Wife?
@@GabrielBacon Job offers and potential relationships keep trying to stop me but I'm strong willed and refuse to give up on my dreams of dying down here sad and broke. Thanks for asking!
@@busteronlyfullscreenmode Quite possibly the most freedom anyone in society has today!
At least you have family nearby, time to use as you'd choose. No one has upward social mobility.
Enjoy the freedom, ignore the stigma!
In a society where meaning and purpose are eroded, only the free man gets to determine what those things are. The rest are consigned to their fate of nullification.
Let the dead bury their dead. You have the chance to live. It's only once we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.
I heard of this guy who makes soap from his basement, while working two other jobs. He also runs something else, but I can't talk about that.
Everyone else is a product of our times quite literally. You my basement dwelling amigo are at the vanguard of change, ahead of the curve, and from your dank basement you have the widest vantage point of our cultural miasma, which means you're the most primed to find the way forwards and into new horizons while everyone else clamours for the highest desk in a dark glass tower at the heart of a neon and concrete cesspit of flawed dreams and failed conquests.
The lowest ape at the base of the tree is also the one most likely to learn to walk on two legs, weild fire like a Promethean legend, and evolve beyond their simian peers that squabble for their spot in the sun at the apex of the canopy. The canopy is their limit, the sky, the horizon, the ocean, and space itself is yours to venture into. The modern shaman on the precipace of the known journey, and the unknown void of uncertaintity. A space monkey ready to head into the obsidian, star speckled infinite.
Revel in your times oh Promethean soul, remember who you are!
@@busteronlyfullscreenmodelol
@@busteronlyfullscreenmode funniest comment and best reply ever
12:46 the building I’m at has everyone facing a corner but you can just spin your chair around and talk to your colleagues. So you don’t have to look at people but you can talk freely.
Ironically "that thing" appears to be an IBM 727 mainframe. My brain is like a collection of useless information that nobody will ever need, but, there it is.
Don't worry mate, it was good info for me because I was really curious
the only hacking someone would do to that mainframe is with an axe
Why is that ironic?
He predicted it, he talked about 2020 and 80% of workers being home
OMG! The Michel Foucault burn at 4:24 😄l Great piece, as usual. Thsnksl
I’m here bc I thought you was finna tell me how much my life suck bc I binged all seasons of The Office ...
“By 2020 it’s estimated that half of the British population will be working from home remotely”
This simultaneously aged horribly and surprisingly well
Holy shit this was published before the pandemic. I thought it was a bit.
God damn these dumb comments
I just love the recurring appearance the stock footage guy at 12:05 makes!
The study: It's estimated 50% of the UK workers will work remotely by 2020
2020: Hold my beer
That aged poorly.
:( working from home for 6 months. i work 3-4 hours more and my productivity is less because our company constantly have meetings as if we are together in a room. only difference is that i'm in my room instead of another room working 3 -4 hours more.
I was wondering if that epic matte painting from Tron would show up (at 12:13) --- I love that shot; there's a cubicle on the right foreground which has no door!
Absolutely brilliant stream of inside jokes. Gotta love the self awareness here. Great video man.
Ha, it's a weird concept. Growing up I was told, "work hard to get a good office job". I had one and I did not enjoy it haha.
'Nothing could possiblie go wrong.. .That's the first time something's going wrong"
"butt-sniffing jargonese" 😂
Where has this guy been all my life.
Plus at a “home office” you literally never leave work. You wake up, it’s there. You go to sleep it’s still there. There’s no escape.
Same as living on a farm.
@@MrAnperm but if you live on a farm your likely your own boss and atleast it’s rewarding work
I personally have a box I lock my work computer in after 8PM. Works like a charm.
Im homeschooled rn and its kinda like that
Unemployed because of lockdows or spoopy work pc living in my house.
I know what i pick.
Best video I've seen yet. Loved the "demonetized" bit.
"By 2020 it is estimated that over half the office work force will be leaving the office"
I'm from the future, and I've got something to tell you
@Lee Juddy I'm from the future, and I must say here you are gay af
@Lee Juddy In fact, I'm your future husband
I was convinced this was going to be about 'The Office' the show. Thats on purpose isnt it. Touche.
That ending Midi. He knew.
This video shook me to my core...thank you
I thought this was gonna be a critique of the show. I was like “I haven’t even seen office, how could it ruin my life?”
That advert at 7:48 was...
Was really something.
I could never work in an office. I spent 8 years working as a trolley collector at a supermarket until I figured out what I wanna do with my life. Iv now been in the events industry as a stagehand for 6+ years. Iv worked on some of the biggest concerts and musicals the world has seen.
Has there been hard days?
Yep
Have I had to work 10, 12 even 18 hour days?
You betcha
Would I trade this for a cushy office job?
Hell no
I'm proud of you.
"I could never work in an office"
...
"I spent 8 years working as a trolley collector at a supermarket"
💀💀💀💀💀
@@BlackSlimShady Yep. Was killing me inside, but I grew complacent. Luckily I managed to find a passion.
That said, I'd probably prefer trolleys over a office job. I just hate the thought of being stuck in an office chair all day
7:30 Ok, that was the funniest joke I heard in months. Perfect timing.
Erika
I really enjoyed this, thanks for the entertaining and informative original content! You give me a bit of a Charlie Brooker vibe and that's a huge compliment! :)
ah thanks dude, that's a big compliment indeed.
I can't deal with open floor plans, I may as well do everyone elses work because it's all I can think of with everyone talking, walking by, making noise, etc. It's torture.
Man, Captain Bonnet pumps out some quality content. Why did he become a pirate again?
Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well of course because her nagging wife
Quality content as usual! Thanks Ordinary Thing, for keeping the Ordinary in Things!
keeping it ordinary, always
It'd be neat to come back to this after a time when the effects of covid on the working environment become more clear. I'd love to hear your take on it!
I second this motion.
Well?
This is a good video and I'm glad it exists. very true and almost existentially scary
Hopefully more folks come across it in the recommendations (which is why i'm commenting to help increase audience interaction)
Hero. Thanks dude
This was incredibly informative and depressing. I swear I’m going to have to get lucky with some innovative idea or become a successful streamer and TH-camr to be remotely satisfied with life.
because surely then you will be happy… right?
I just wanna say this showed up and i couldn't have worded that better
happiness is a mind set
@@jusu8961 yes money would make me very happy
@@jusu8961 "And I know what they say, that money can't buy everything; maybe so, but it can buy me a boat"
November 21st, 2019
Very interesting timing for a video about working from offices
Hyper ironic that months after this came out, many of us were forced to work from home. I'm more depressed than ever.
In a somewhat perverse way, I am glad that most of us now have to 'deal with' what I love having been doing for a decade or so. It also saves in office space costs and makes you more independent. On the other hand, the only party saving in this is the employer.
I haven't had any struggles due to covid tbh
Yeah, we’re got a Covid Global Pandemic and a Mental Health Epidemic to compliment it. People are lonelier than ever, more depressed than ever, more suicidal than ever, and it’s not better in many areas. Office life was better, even though we hated it. Sometimes you just don’t know what you had until it’s gone
@@aaronlandry3934 We just gotta learn how to socialise again, we'll get there eventually!
@@fgqgqlfqsfsffeff Actually, there were hundreds of studies about growing loneliness epidemic in the US before Covid. Covid was just an accelerant for an already huge and widespread problem.
Even without Covid, many people don’t want to go back to doing things in person. This means that many interpersonal interactions did not happen, are not happening, and will not happen for many people. Social decline seems like an inevitability and mental health statistics seem to reflect it
I am so glad Internet Historian put me here.
Your commentary is the best!!! I appreciate your insightful, dead-on humor!!! My ❤ is yours 😊!!!
8:30 "but he spoke exclusively in butt-sniffing Jargonese" LMAO
"Epstein didn't kill himself." Nice touch.
“Words are just 𝙼𝙾𝚄𝚃𝙷 𝚂𝙾𝚄𝙽𝙳𝚂”
Someone stop this man. We _JUST STARTED_
Now, in 2020:
Look back at 13:00 and I think more than 50% of people are working at home
"Golden mantra of modern life: you can't polish a turd"
I suggest you read the Unabomber manifesto if you haven't done it already, it's right in that alley. I think you'd find it interesting, it's quite an esoteric reading You mentioned 4chan so it's possible you've already heard of it. Cheers!
@9:20. I work in a cubicle. I got some squares from my dad to put on the fabric walls that you couldn't use push pins... 3M has discontinued them 😔
A refreshing blend of Charlie Brooker wit delivered with Harry Hill style, whilst maintaining something unique to yourself. Love your content mate, been on a binge the past few weeks. Please keep up the good work. Can't wait to see where you take things!
The German bit was absolutely hysterical, you've outdone yourself once again!
thanks dude! that's my favourite bit too
12:52 very true. Fast PC with dual monitor in a cubicle was changed to "modern" open room with non-personal empty desks and a laptop. I quit, it was truly horrible.
The wage cage! I love it, I used to work in an office. Never again! 😂
WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT CAMP OF CONCENTRATION LMFAO
I've recently found your channel. Love it! Thanks for your content. Love the amount of research and detail you put in. I'm a history buff so madd props
wasnt this guy a Pirate who worked with Blackbeard back in the day?