Wow... My old car got a new airbag due to the Takata-recall, however, up until now I didn't really know why. I guessed it just wouldn't ignite properly which was worrying, but nowhere near as worrying as having basically a pipebomb right in front of my face...
I didn't even know about the recall, I saw a video about it a few months ago. I checked my car on vw website and it says, it's good. Let's hope it actually is😂
I bought a new Dodge Charger Daytona in 1977 that was equipped with the HORRIBLE Firestone 500 radials. I would go out in the morning to go to work and would have a flat tire. Took it to Dodge who checked it out and said the rim was fine, the bead on the tire just let go (they were just beginning to see a disturbing pattern) and went to Firestone who told me the bead was fine, the Chrysler Rally wheels were to blame. The final straw was when I was coming back to my base from Montreal and had the bead fail while I was going better than 85 and fortunately, I managed to go into a field instead of hitting a pole. I changed the tire in minus 20 degree weather and made it home (a lot slower, I should add) and the next morning went right to Firestone and had a HUGE fight with the manager. I was so disgusted that I went to BF Goodrich and got a new set of tires on a car with less than 7,000 miles on it (and on my airman's pay, put a huge dent in my budget.) The store manager took me behind the shop and showed me a HEAPING pile of Firestone 500 radials. Firestone finally issued a recall but would NOT pay for tires from another manufacturer but would replace them with Firestone "721" radials. This came 4 months AFTER I had already replaced those junk tires. I will NEVER put another Firestone tire on any of my cars. A few years later when I ordered a new car I specified NO FIRESTONE TIRES. PERIOD. And sure enough when it arrived, there were 5 new Firestone tires on the car and I refused to take delivery until they changed them out with BF Goodrich tires.
If I recall correctly, those early replacement Takata Airbags were doing the same thing. They were just as dangerous as the ones removed since Takata refused to admit their negligence.
I was working at a Ford dealer back in 2000, the only issue was they were putting the tire PSI at 25, way to low, and the sidewalls were blowing out overtime, there was nothing wrong with the suspension or the tires. recall came out and all we did was make new door stickers saying 30PSI (they needed to be 35PSI in reality) but even with tires set at 30PSI, no more issues.
These articles always talk about the pintos gas tank behind the rear axle being the fault. Most cars for decades has the gas tank there. The fault was too long hanger bolts that would bend up and pierce the tank in a collision.
From a friend who worked for Ford at that time, one problem with the tires was that chains on the assembly line were rubbing against the inner sidewall and weakening the belts of the tires.
@@jayjaynella4539 Uhhhh yeeaaa ok that makes no since at all, that's not possible. Never saw anything like that on them and doesn't explain why when we started putting them at 30psi, never had anymore issues. If it was that, they would have caught it during install and we would have seen it to. Never in my 23 years doing this ever seen chains rubbing a tire causing wear to a side wall (how and why are chains inside the tire???) Think your friend was on that good good a little much that day.
@@john1703 That's a bit high for the rear and a bit low for front but yeah, I can believe it. Renault 16 isn't an SUV so it can get away with lower pressures. That said, I'd run a bit higher front.
I remember the Firestone/Ford scandal. My mom bought a new Suburban in 2000 and she wouldn’t even take it off the lot until the Firestone Wilderness tires were off it. Even if it was more isolated to Ford, she wanted nothing to do with the Firestone tires.
Around 2015, it was discovered that some Jeep models had fuel tanks that could rupture like those on the Ford Pinto. I don’t know what ultimately happened, but at one point, Chrysler was trying to convince the Feds that installing trailer hitches on the affected models would solve the problem. Chrysler engineers said the hitches would strengthen the back end of the vehicle and help to protect the tank in a rear end collision. Amazingly, Ford engineers developed a fix for the Pinto before the car went on sale. Management vetoed the fix because it would have cost around $10 per car to implement. If management had listened to the engineers, neither the Challenger Space Shuttle nor the Ford Pinto would have had been prone to exploding.
Jeb Butler is a lawyer who represented the families of people who died in fires due to rear end collisions in the Jeep Liberty where the fuel tank ruptured after the trailer hitch fix. He deposed two Chrysler executives for his lawsuit against the company. Both depositions are on his channel.
But Firestone tires are crap anyways. I had a set if Winter tires years ago, they were extremly loud and when they were New the car was not stable on the the road. Since then I only had Dunlop and they are significantly better
I had a `74 and a `80 Pintos and loved them both. Only problem I had was with the `74. It would need a new starter almost yearly. Got pretty good at changing them and it rusted quite quickly.
Other cars from other manufacturers had a fuel tank design similar to the Ford Pinto. They were all prone to failure in rear end collisions. Pinto got the bad press because of how many of them were sold.
@@lurch789 I used to drive a 1965 Dodge D100 pickup truck that had the fuel tank behind the seat, inside the cab.🥺 I miss that truck, but if I had it today I'd relocate the fuel tank...
@@lurch789vertical what? It's vertical fuel tanks that are a serious fire hazard. Nothing changed, the tank is in the same position under the car. It gets ejected easily when the frame around it deforms, that's why there's no fires in a crash. Let's see how you eject a vertical plastic bottle. They can take some pressure but the ideea is to detach easily so the pressure drops, not get deformed along with the frame. There's no way to place a vertical fuel tank safely inside a car, horizontal fuel tank is safest
I had many GM G bodies (malibu, grand-prix, monte carlo, etc from 1978 to around 1988) and I remember the tank was right behind the bumper. But I don't know if it could cause à safety issue.
@@MarvinHartmann452 3 on the tree, no AC, long bench seat with only lap belts, fuel tank inside the cab with you. Sound ridiculously primitive and dangerous by any standard! I've many fond memories of the fun I had with my first wife in that truck when we were dating and newly married though, including a somewhat successful attempt at recreating a famous movie scene(Pretty sure they modified the steering when location for that scene in the movie). 😉
I was scared shitless to drive my ‘07 Honda Civic. I remember the airbag light on my dashboard turning on, and I called my local dealer to ask them to reset it. While I was on the phone, the Takata scandal was on my mind, and I asked if my VIN was in their system for a recall? The guy said “Nope. Your VIN isn’t in the system for needing an airbag replacement. You’re good to go.” Literally 3 weeks later; and only 1 week after I got the car back from getting the dashboard airbag light reset, I got the Takata airbag recall card in the mail. I saw red. I was livid beyond belief. Either Honda was gradually trying to tackle the airbag problems in batches of cars so the dealers weren’t overwhelmed, or the fucker on the phone was lying to me. If he had at least been somewhat honest and said: “Look, Honda is going thru this and is sending out Recall notice cards, it might be some more time before yours gets taken in, but I believe you can expect to get one. Keep in touch with us to see and check your mail for any notification.” I wouldn’t have been mad. I would’ve at least been patient and tried to avoid driving my Civic in the meantime.
Current Pinto owner and enthusiast here. Your fire related each figures are incorrect. It deemed 27 people died due to fires caused by rear end accidents. Fun fact, it is estimated that 38 people have died in Teslas that caught fire....
what I heard at the time, Pinto's gas tank was built with only 5 sides ( 6 sides to a box) the tank was sealed and welded to the floor board. when struck, would leak at the seams. ( to save money)
Interestingly the GM ignition switch issue has similar characteristics to a Ford issue from the 70s. Ford automatic transmissions at that time, going back over 20 years, had detent springs (which keep the shifter in a certain position) that were too weak, allowing the transmissions to slip out of park into reverse similar to how the GM switch would slip from run to accessory. In Ford's case, they got away with mailing a sticker to owners telling them to "make sure it's in park and set the parking brake" rather than recall the faulty transmissions. In both cases the actual faulty part costs a few cents to make, though in Ford's case the part was inside the transmission. A full recall would have sunk the company.
Another big problem with the Ford Explorer and several other American Ford, Mercury and Lincoln models of the 80:s and 90:s was that the cruise control would take over and give full throttle even if it was not switched on in the first place, the reason behind this, was that the cruise control in these Fords, unlike other cars, was getting power as soon as you turned on the engine, unlike other cars, where the cc only gets power when you switch it on using the button, this has caused several fatal accidents and near misses in both America and Europe, sadly Ford, just like the ture scandal, not admit any wrong duing, even though experts and customers had complained for years about Fords accelerating out of control, even when the brakes were pushed, and since you did not switch the cruise control on in the intended way, by using the button, it would not disengage by pressing the button either.
Add the BMW E36 M3 (probably others models in that series) to your list. Was due to a CC module in the engine bay. For no reaso, it would jam throttle wide open until you cut the gas! Then, power steering would fail & you hoped you would'nt either hit someone/thing or run off the road....
Shoot that’s when you quickly pop the car into neutral. Automatic Transmissions can handle being shifted while moving from Drive to Neutral. Engine can be screaming to the moon and yet your car will still slow down
The auto recalls continue, corporate profits up, customer satisfaction and inconvenience down... they will never stop their greedy ways, to our detriment
As for the GM ignition switches, I knew several people who carried monstrous amounts of keys on their key chains. I informed them that all that weight would cause the ignition switch to cut out unexpectedly. Those people changed their habits for the better. As for the airbags, GM informed the gov back in 1971 that these systems would cause lots of problems. Rather than allow a better system to be installed, the gov agency doubled down on their efforts to put airbags in vehicles. All this car testing that the companies do is done on tracks that do not resemble road conditions and traffic, and these problems show up later. Like all these new safety systems that cause traffic stoppages in winter due to stopping the car when traction is lost on a slippery surface. Every time a new safety system gets put on a car, the drivers dumb down expecting the system to save their butts, rather than develop great driving skills and becoming familiar with how their vehicles act in different road situations. Until the 1990s one had to learn to handle a vehicle properly to avoid accidents. Now people are relying on "sensors" to do their mind work. Not realizing that in wet and snowy weather the sensors accumulate dirt, ice, snow, and mud that keeps them from working properly.
Its daunting looking at the recalls on the NHTSA website. Luckily the cars are made in batches, so the sheer amount of recalls doesnt apply to every car of every model. My car, The 2003 civic has 24 recalls, but when I put in my VIN, its Zero.
The worst one I’ve heard of was Chrysler minivans from 1984-1995 had a latch on the rear lift gate so weak that it would pop open even in low speed impacts, often ejecting children from the back row bench. At least 41 people were killed. Chrysler did everything it could to avoid a recall and dragged the process out for years.
Hey Mr. Car Facts, the problem with the Pinto wasn't that the gas tank was behind the rear axle. All cars at the time had the tank located there. Would you prefer the gas tank to be in the passenger compartment as it was on Chevy, Ford, and Dodge pickups of the era? Anyway, if you know the real reason the Pinto had a problem please add it to the video.
As I understand it, there was a component (possibly part of the bumper mount) that was positioned such that it would puncture the tank in even a mild rear-end impact. Ford actually found several workable options to fix the problem with minimal design changes, including adding a flexible rubber lining to the tank that would remain sealed even if the metal were punctured, but even though it would only add a few dollars to the cost of each car, they still decided not to bother.
Ford didn't want to spend money to fix the problem with the Pinto even though they knew it could catch fire. Ford, GM & Chrysler always are looking to reduce production costs, so they don't like to spend allot of money fixing a problem and come up with a cheap fix if they have to fix it. Lee Iacocca who greenlighted the Pinto had said people weren't interested in safety
I guess it's every company for themselves. Haven't they realized when customers die more quickly due to their own greed, who's gonna bail them out when theres no customer left for them?
I remember just getting my license in highschool and some woman was driving a Ford Pinto moves into my lane and slams on the breaks I almost hit her at highway speeds . Ever si ce the Ford Pinto I never trusted Ford ,GM or Chrysler for anything . I wouldn't even buy a skatebkard from them
My old Toyota 2007 the wire inside steering break, I remove the wire and use copper plate from 80s car steering. I don't even bother to rewire the airbag because I don't trust it. From south Asia.
My mother had a 2017 gmc terrain that when driving you'd lose power brakes, power steering, the speedometer would go up and down like the car was turning on and turn off the radio. She could of died from this but the garage who would of done the recall that was well known refused because they were upset my father wouldn't work there anymore because of cut pay and bad work conditions. We now drive used cars because that gmc put a bad taste in our mouths for years.
Ford Pinto: It's complicated. Yes, there was a real risk of fireball in rear end collisions. However, statistics show that per million miles driven it was safer than the competition. When all types of fatalities are considered, the Pinto was approximately even with the AMC Gremlin, Chevrolet Vega, and Datsun 510. It was significantly better than the Datsun 1200/210, Toyota Corolla, and VW Beetle.
Good data! Ultimately, the Pinto scandal was not about the fuel tank problem itself, but about the fact that Ford always knew about the risk involved and did nothing to remedy it... until after the Judge's ruling. .
Vobble Wagen Beetle,, Hitlers revenge on the world. Bloody terrible car that rolled over very easily, had the fuel tank above your feet with a cap that seldom ever sealed. A wobble plate thing in the back that leaked petrol, oil and caught fire, often. Yet idiots bought them. And dickheads like Nader went after the Corvair which was similar in suspension but not the other things. It was European so must be good!! Its sports car brother was little better. And even now really are not great!
Pinto Station Wagon was NOT fire risk. Had a 73 and loved it! Added turbocharger, fast, made a SUV cruiser to camp/tow sand toys to dunes in 80's. Modern Model A, was able to fix everything w/hand tools in family driveway. Used 200k+ miles & sold
@@tomtom1541 anything is better than ford itsFord stands for: Ford: Fatality Out-of-control Rollover Death The last one is actually hand picked by henry ford, and towards a specific group, but I wont get into that to much.
@@Lynnfield3440 I never said ford made good cars, I was only pointing out they all use the same part suppliers for airbags. I prefer Toyota / Lexus myself.
Hi Steve! Based on investigations, it appears that the fragments developed gradually over time due to the decomposition of the airbag components in contact with the gas. This is why no fragments were observed in the crash tests.
@@geosradiomusicalstuff3124not even mentioning A LOT of money being lost for the economy and entire cities becoming devastated who rely on manufacturing plants. I really don’t get the idea behind the bailouts in 2009/2010 being bad… that’s pretty much what got us out of the Great Recession. One of the best things Obama did.
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As you can see, Ford & GM put money over safety. Unfortunately, some of the executives maybe greedy and just want to get higher profits for the company and don't like spending or losing allot money
Funny how y'all, just like tons of others, act like Toyota didn't have the most catastrophic safety recall, more severe than any of these & was simply overshadowed by the much less catastrophic GM ignition switch recall. Toyota's sticking accelerator killed far more & was a worldwide issue, but as is the case with them & Honda, it just gets swept under the rug, but heaven forbid Hyundai/Kia has an issue & everyone has their pitchforks out. I specifically watched this just to see if they were going to bring it up & they didn't, which didn't surprise me one bit.
Aftermarket floor carpets caused many of the problems, esp the ones that say universal fit. Carpet gets caught under the accelerator and grabs onto it.
@@jayjaynella4539 wrong, it was factory floor mates, but that was only on certain models, others the actual pedal got stuck, hence why it was called the "sticking accelerator pedal recall." I've said it once & I'll say it again, stop glorifying Toyotas & Hondas, they're not bad by any means, but they're not THAT good!
I mean, put it in neutral if the accelerator is stuck? what is so hard about that? press the brakes as brakes over power the engine if you havent messed up your car. if for some reason you cant put it in neutral do some other gear to destroy the engine and gearbox. its not pretty but better than keep accelerating.
Rule number one when putting air in tires, look on the sidewall of the tires and put 5 psi less then whats the max psi rating of the tire. The door sticker is only for the "OEM TIRES ONLY" and if you buy better tires the psi ratings are completely different.
you forgot the most important one, look what brand your car is. then when it is a ford get rid off it and buy a decent car thats isnt a casket on wheels.
Some of the replacement tires by other manufacturers had a higher failure rate than did the Firestone tires. The problem was Fords and Firestone was the scapegoat.
The Worst Car Ever Made 1. 1999-2004 Mercedes Benz A-Class 2. Toyota Vitz 3. Autozam AZ-1 (PG6SA), No Airbag 4. Suzuki Cappuccino, came with an airbag for the driver 5. GMC Chevette, No Airbag
Amazing how 'modern safety' items got so complicated just because stupid people could not figure out how / too lazy to operate seat belt buckles. Race cars don't have airbags✌️😁🤙
Ford, Ford, Ford, so disappointed in you, from your anti-Semitic founder to the other numerous scandals; but can’t help it, I’m a sucker for my Thunderbirds and my Mustang, so there it is.
"ALL OF THIS WAS DUE TO A COMPONENT LESS THAN A DOLLAR."
I felt that.
far far less than a dollar
@@lurch789 thats why its done in planes
Drove a Pinto in the early 80's for a while, always wondered why I never had problems with tailgaters
😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣you already know why!
How none of these bosses never end up in jail for their failures?
Henry Ford III had fired Lee Iacocca after the Ford failure (He greenlighted the Pinto) and then Chrysler hired Iacocca who saved them from bankruptcy
Wow... My old car got a new airbag due to the Takata-recall, however, up until now I didn't really know why. I guessed it just wouldn't ignite properly which was worrying, but nowhere near as worrying as having basically a pipebomb right in front of my face...
I didn't even know about the recall, I saw a video about it a few months ago. I checked my car on vw website and it says, it's good. Let's hope it actually is😂
I bought a new Dodge Charger Daytona in 1977 that was equipped with the HORRIBLE Firestone 500 radials. I would go out in the morning to go to work and would have a flat tire. Took it to Dodge who checked it out and said the rim was fine, the bead on the tire just let go (they were just beginning to see a disturbing pattern) and went to Firestone who told me the bead was fine, the Chrysler Rally wheels were to blame. The final straw was when I was coming back to my base from Montreal and had the bead fail while I was going better than 85 and fortunately, I managed to go into a field instead of hitting a pole. I changed the tire in minus 20 degree weather and made it home (a lot slower, I should add) and the next morning went right to Firestone and had a HUGE fight with the manager. I was so disgusted that I went to BF Goodrich and got a new set of tires on a car with less than 7,000 miles on it (and on my airman's pay, put a huge dent in my budget.) The store manager took me behind the shop and showed me a HEAPING pile of Firestone 500 radials. Firestone finally issued a recall but would NOT pay for tires from another manufacturer but would replace them with Firestone "721" radials. This came 4 months AFTER I had already replaced those junk tires. I will NEVER put another Firestone tire on any of my cars. A few years later when I ordered a new car I specified NO FIRESTONE TIRES. PERIOD. And sure enough when it arrived, there were 5 new Firestone tires on the car and I refused to take delivery until they changed them out with BF Goodrich tires.
Once I heard about the airbags and my moms 2012 Corolla was affected, I took it straight to the dealership to get it replaced
We probably still have them 😂
If I recall correctly, those early replacement Takata Airbags were doing the same thing. They were just as dangerous as the ones removed since Takata refused to admit their negligence.
@@carguy4658 Yeah, I heard that too but when I say I replaced it right away, we didn't get the news till like later later on
I was working at a Ford dealer back in 2000, the only issue was they were putting the tire PSI at 25, way to low, and the sidewalls were blowing out overtime, there was nothing wrong with the suspension or the tires. recall came out and all we did was make new door stickers saying 30PSI (they needed to be 35PSI in reality) but even with tires set at 30PSI, no more issues.
Would you believe that the recommended tire pressures for the Renault 16 were 26/32 psi F/R?
These articles always talk about the pintos gas tank behind the rear axle being the fault. Most cars for decades has the gas tank there. The fault was too long hanger bolts that would bend up and pierce the tank in a collision.
From a friend who worked for Ford at that time, one problem with the tires was that chains on the assembly line were rubbing against the inner sidewall and weakening the belts of the tires.
@@jayjaynella4539 Uhhhh yeeaaa ok that makes no since at all, that's not possible. Never saw anything like that on them and doesn't explain why when we started putting them at 30psi, never had anymore issues. If it was that, they would have caught it during install and we would have seen it to. Never in my 23 years doing this ever seen chains rubbing a tire causing wear to a side wall (how and why are chains inside the tire???) Think your friend was on that good good a little much that day.
@@john1703 That's a bit high for the rear and a bit low for front but yeah, I can believe it. Renault 16 isn't an SUV so it can get away with lower pressures. That said, I'd run a bit higher front.
You failed to mention the internal email at GM calling the ignition "The ignition switch from Hell" in 2001.
I remember the Firestone/Ford scandal. My mom bought a new Suburban in 2000 and she wouldn’t even take it off the lot until the Firestone Wilderness tires were off it. Even if it was more isolated to Ford, she wanted nothing to do with the Firestone tires.
I still wouldnt even before the ford firestine hoopla
we need to put the CEOS of companies in jail. and strip them of any assets they have. maybe then this would have an effect
Bean counters and engineers who do not stand for integrity should go as well
"A type of lawyer unique to the United Staes," love this.
I loved the inclusion of the Pinto explosion scene from "Top Secret".🤣
Around 2015, it was discovered that some Jeep models had fuel tanks that could rupture like those on the Ford Pinto. I don’t know what ultimately happened, but at one point, Chrysler was trying to convince the Feds that installing trailer hitches on the affected models would solve the problem. Chrysler engineers said the hitches would strengthen the back end of the vehicle and help to protect the tank in a rear end collision. Amazingly, Ford engineers developed a fix for the Pinto before the car went on sale. Management vetoed the fix because it would have cost around $10 per car to implement. If management had listened to the engineers, neither the Challenger Space Shuttle nor the Ford Pinto would have had been prone to exploding.
The 1993-1998 ZJ Grand Cherokees. I had a loaded '96 Orvis Edition that had a factory Class 3 trailer hitch, therefore, it wasn't part of the recall.
Jeb Butler is a lawyer who represented the families of people who died in fires due to rear end collisions in the Jeep Liberty where the fuel tank ruptured after the trailer hitch fix. He deposed two Chrysler executives for his lawsuit against the company. Both depositions are on his channel.
It took me a second to figure out how Ford's engineers could have prevented the Challenger explosion. Then it clicked what you actually said.
@@OldsVistaCruiser I remember that recall. It is uncommon to recall any vehicles nearly legally antique!
Allegedly, the firestone issue was due to the tires not being inflated properly, which led to the tires failing.
But Firestone tires are crap anyways. I had a set if Winter tires years ago, they were extremly loud and when they were New the car was not stable on the the road.
Since then I only had Dunlop and they are significantly better
I had a `74 and a `80 Pintos and loved them both. Only problem I had was with the `74. It would need a new starter almost yearly. Got pretty good at changing them and it rusted quite quickly.
Other cars from other manufacturers had a fuel tank design similar to the Ford Pinto. They were all prone to failure in rear end collisions. Pinto got the bad press because of how many of them were sold.
@@lurch789 I used to drive a 1965 Dodge D100 pickup truck that had the fuel tank behind the seat, inside the cab.🥺
I miss that truck, but if I had it today I'd relocate the fuel tank...
@@lurch789vertical what? It's vertical fuel tanks that are a serious fire hazard. Nothing changed, the tank is in the same position under the car. It gets ejected easily when the frame around it deforms, that's why there's no fires in a crash. Let's see how you eject a vertical plastic bottle. They can take some pressure but the ideea is to detach easily so the pressure drops, not get deformed along with the frame. There's no way to place a vertical fuel tank safely inside a car, horizontal fuel tank is safest
I had many GM G bodies (malibu, grand-prix, monte carlo, etc from 1978 to around 1988) and I remember the tank was right behind the bumper. But I don't know if it could cause à safety issue.
@@markbeiserOh yeah I remember these. They were good pick up.
@@MarvinHartmann452 3 on the tree, no AC, long bench seat with only lap belts, fuel tank inside the cab with you.
Sound ridiculously primitive and dangerous by any standard!
I've many fond memories of the fun I had with my first wife in that truck when we were dating and newly married though, including a somewhat successful attempt at recreating a famous movie scene(Pretty sure they modified the steering when location for that scene in the movie). 😉
Thank God Ford has had such a rich history of concern for their customers safety!😉
I was scared shitless to drive my ‘07 Honda Civic.
I remember the airbag light on my dashboard turning on, and I called my local dealer to ask them to reset it.
While I was on the phone, the Takata scandal was on my mind, and I asked if my VIN was in their system for a recall?
The guy said “Nope. Your VIN isn’t in the system for needing an airbag replacement. You’re good to go.”
Literally 3 weeks later; and only 1 week after I got the car back from getting the dashboard airbag light reset, I got the Takata airbag recall card in the mail.
I saw red. I was livid beyond belief.
Either Honda was gradually trying to tackle the airbag problems in batches of cars so the dealers weren’t overwhelmed, or the fucker on the phone was lying to me.
If he had at least been somewhat honest and said: “Look, Honda is going thru this and is sending out Recall notice cards, it might be some more time before yours gets taken in, but I believe you can expect to get one. Keep in touch with us to see and check your mail for any notification.”
I wouldn’t have been mad. I would’ve at least been patient and tried to avoid driving my Civic in the meantime.
It really wasn't an easy issue for the manufacturers, who to a certain extent were also deceived by Takata.
Current Pinto owner and enthusiast here. Your fire related each figures are incorrect. It deemed 27 people died due to fires caused by rear end accidents.
Fun fact, it is estimated that 38 people have died in Teslas that caught fire....
what I heard at the time, Pinto's gas tank was built with only 5 sides ( 6 sides to a box) the tank was sealed and welded to the floor board. when struck, would leak at the seams. ( to save money)
And this is why i refuse to drive Ford and GM products. Safety is always the third, fourth, fifth priority
My wish is for a real life “ Dexter “ to visit the executives responsible for these corporate decisions with extreme prejudice.
Talking about Firestone tyres… show a Goodyear tyre. Good production values here.
I didn’t know they had those tire brands on your side of the world lol
Goodyear, Michelin, Continental, Yokohama and Toyo those are the companies you should buy tires from.
@@swilleh_don't forget Pirelli!
SHOWS THAT CHEATING ON SAFETY IS THE SAME AS MURDER!!!!
Interestingly the GM ignition switch issue has similar characteristics to a Ford issue from the 70s. Ford automatic transmissions at that time, going back over 20 years, had detent springs (which keep the shifter in a certain position) that were too weak, allowing the transmissions to slip out of park into reverse similar to how the GM switch would slip from run to accessory. In Ford's case, they got away with mailing a sticker to owners telling them to "make sure it's in park and set the parking brake" rather than recall the faulty transmissions.
In both cases the actual faulty part costs a few cents to make, though in Ford's case the part was inside the transmission. A full recall would have sunk the company.
Ford blamed Firestone and Firestone blamed Ford on the unstable Explorer
Thats why i had my airbag stolen twice from my newer model Honda in NY. There is a huge recall and not enough airbags. Thieves get $600 per airbag
Clear,to the point.... and no blablablabla!!!
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I work at a BMW workshop, and to this day we get cars that have a airbag that has to be changed due to recalls. Really a big giant shit show
Another big problem with the Ford Explorer and several other American Ford, Mercury and Lincoln models of the 80:s and 90:s was that the cruise control would take over and give full throttle even if it was not switched on in the first place, the reason behind this, was that the cruise control in these Fords, unlike other cars, was getting power as soon as you turned on the engine, unlike other cars, where the cc only gets power when you switch it on using the button, this has caused several fatal accidents and near misses in both America and Europe, sadly Ford, just like the ture scandal, not admit any wrong duing, even though experts and customers had complained for years about Fords accelerating out of control, even when the brakes were pushed, and since you did not switch the cruise control on in the intended way, by using the button, it would not disengage by pressing the button either.
Add the BMW E36 M3 (probably others models in that series) to your list. Was due to a CC module in the engine bay. For no reaso, it would jam throttle wide open until you cut the gas! Then, power steering would fail & you hoped you would'nt either hit someone/thing or run off the road....
Shoot that’s when you quickly pop the car into neutral. Automatic Transmissions can handle being shifted while moving from Drive to Neutral. Engine can be screaming to the moon and yet your car will still slow down
Fortunately my car is so under powered the brakes can override full throttle in even 1st gear.
The auto recalls continue, corporate profits up, customer satisfaction and inconvenience down... they will never stop their greedy ways, to our detriment
As for the GM ignition switches, I knew several people who carried monstrous amounts of keys on their key chains. I informed them that all that weight would cause the ignition switch to cut out unexpectedly. Those people changed their habits for the better. As for the airbags, GM informed the gov back in 1971 that these systems would cause lots of problems. Rather than allow a better system to be installed, the gov agency doubled down on their efforts to put airbags in vehicles. All this car testing that the companies do is done on tracks that do not resemble road conditions and traffic, and these problems show up later. Like all these new safety systems that cause traffic stoppages in winter due to stopping the car when traction is lost on a slippery surface. Every time a new safety system gets put on a car, the drivers dumb down expecting the system to save their butts, rather than develop great driving skills and becoming familiar with how their vehicles act in different road situations. Until the 1990s one had to learn to handle a vehicle properly to avoid accidents. Now people are relying on "sensors" to do their mind work. Not realizing that in wet and snowy weather the sensors accumulate dirt, ice, snow, and mud that keeps them from working properly.
I wonder how many problems are out there now in new cars that need to be fixed?
Its daunting looking at the recalls on the NHTSA website. Luckily the cars are made in batches, so the sheer amount of recalls doesnt apply to every car of every model. My car, The 2003 civic has 24 recalls, but when I put in my VIN, its Zero.
More than we will ever know about.
The worst one I’ve heard of was Chrysler minivans from 1984-1995 had a latch on the rear lift gate so weak that it would pop open even in low speed impacts, often ejecting children from the back row bench. At least 41 people were killed. Chrysler did everything it could to avoid a recall and dragged the process out for years.
and the seats falling back
I’m in Finland and all but the last were familiar to me. Especially that Airbag disaster was huge news.
Hey Mr. Car Facts, the problem with the Pinto wasn't that the gas tank was behind the rear axle. All cars at the time had the tank located there. Would you prefer the gas tank to be in the passenger compartment as it was on Chevy, Ford, and Dodge pickups of the era? Anyway, if you know the real reason the Pinto had a problem please add it to the video.
As I understand it, there was a component (possibly part of the bumper mount) that was positioned such that it would puncture the tank in even a mild rear-end impact. Ford actually found several workable options to fix the problem with minimal design changes, including adding a flexible rubber lining to the tank that would remain sealed even if the metal were punctured, but even though it would only add a few dollars to the cost of each car, they still decided not to bother.
Watching this knowing i got a replacement airbag recall this year for my 2012 mercedes with this exact issues... 😅
Man am i lucky
Ford didn't want to spend money to fix the problem with the Pinto even though they knew it could catch fire. Ford, GM & Chrysler always are looking to reduce production costs, so they don't like to spend allot of money fixing a problem and come up with a cheap fix if they have to fix it. Lee Iacocca who greenlighted the Pinto had said people weren't interested in safety
And one company is ignorant enough to still use takata airbags, Toyota
0.20 the old Holden Commodore drivers side looks completely crushed
The sad thing is that they know these flaws before production ...
What about the 1970s Firestone 500 tires?
More than double the deaths came out of Jeeps gas tank fiasco... but crickets.
Meanwhile 50+ years later we're still tanking about Pintos....
Pinto got the bad press , but federal records show that you were twice as likely to die driving a beetle.
An exploding Ford. Where have I heard this before? 🤣🤣 I guess the Explorer apple doesn’t fall far from the Pinto tree. 😊
Oh, they talked about the Pinto later. Lame. Jk
Ford Exploder basically
you know what they say about ford:
Fire hazard
Onboard computer failure
Rollover risk
Death
I guess it's every company for themselves. Haven't they realized when customers die more quickly due to their own greed, who's gonna bail them out when theres no customer left for them?
The government, but that's another story 😅
I remember just getting my license in highschool and some woman was driving a Ford Pinto moves into my lane and slams on the breaks I almost hit her at highway speeds . Ever si ce the Ford Pinto I never trusted Ford ,GM or Chrysler for anything . I wouldn't even buy a skatebkard from them
she wanted to die real bad
“the brakes”
My old Toyota 2007 the wire inside steering break, I remove the wire and use copper plate from 80s car steering. I don't even bother to rewire the airbag because I don't trust it. From south Asia.
My mother had a 2017 gmc terrain that when driving you'd lose power brakes, power steering, the speedometer would go up and down like the car was turning on and turn off the radio. She could of died from this but the garage who would of done the recall that was well known refused because they were upset my father wouldn't work there anymore because of cut pay and bad work conditions. We now drive used cars because that gmc put a bad taste in our mouths for years.
As someone who has a recall I agree I don’t wanna crash
Hmm how did i know you would use a clip from the movie top secret with the report on the pinto ! 😆😆🤣🤣 Great movie
😂😂😂😂😂
The only best tires are Bridgestone, and Continental and Yokohama. Goodyear Toyo, Michelin, Dunlop, Pierelli are poor.
Fines might be paid by insurance, they need to come from shareholders funds (profits) and those responsible need to do very very long jail terms.
Meanwhile our car probably has takata airbags 😂
3 examples. 2 of which I already knew about. How many more I wonder?
Buy the pinto wagon...the increased rear overhang solved the problem.
only depending on how fast the rear ender goes
Ford Pinto: It's complicated. Yes, there was a real risk of fireball in rear end collisions. However, statistics show that per million miles driven it was safer than the competition. When all types of fatalities are considered, the Pinto was approximately even with the AMC Gremlin, Chevrolet Vega, and Datsun 510. It was significantly better than the Datsun 1200/210, Toyota Corolla, and VW Beetle.
Good data! Ultimately, the Pinto scandal was not about the fuel tank problem itself, but about the fact that Ford always knew about the risk involved and did nothing to remedy it... until after the Judge's ruling. .
@@LowBudgetCarsV2- I noticed the Pinto wagon in the video. The wagon had a different design and wasn't affected by the recall.
Vobble Wagen Beetle,, Hitlers revenge on the world. Bloody terrible car that rolled over very easily, had the fuel tank above your feet with a cap that seldom ever sealed. A wobble plate thing in the back that leaked petrol, oil and caught fire, often. Yet idiots bought them. And dickheads like Nader went after the Corvair which was similar in suspension but not the other things. It was European so must be good!! Its sports car brother was little better. And even now really are not great!
The Pinto was Ford's entry into the SUB-compact market. The Falcon and Maverick were compacts prior to the Pinto.
You're right. The Pinto was a Sub-compact, not a Compact. Thanks for the clarification. 👍👍👍
Sub-compact for America perhaps. For any other area it's a 'normal' size! If that was sub-compact, what was an original mini?
At least air planes are safe... And I refuse to remember 737max existence.
Yet another reason I will never go back to gm
Pinto Station Wagon was NOT fire risk. Had a 73 and loved it! Added turbocharger, fast, made a SUV cruiser to camp/tow sand toys to dunes in 80's. Modern Model A, was able to fix everything w/hand tools in family driveway. Used 200k+ miles & sold
I drive a car that has a gas tank worstier mounted than that ford pinto
THE BEST WAY TO TEACH FORD A LESSON IS DON'T BUY FORD. BUY SAFE CARS LIKE VOLVO OR MERCEDES WHO NEVER COMPROMISE SAFETY!!!
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Volvo and Mercedes is also part of the recall (they both use the same airbags as ford). So your suggestion won't work.
@@tomtom1541 anything is better than ford itsFord stands for:
Ford:
Fatality
Out-of-control
Rollover
Death
The last one is actually hand picked by henry ford, and towards a specific group, but I wont get into that to much.
@@Lynnfield3440 I never said ford made good cars, I was only pointing out they all use the same part suppliers for airbags. I prefer Toyota / Lexus myself.
@@tomtom1541 I am not saying you did, I am just saying anything is better than ford.
Shame we bailed out GM if we bail you out and you do this your bail money must be paid back the next day
Did any of these fragments show up in crash testing? (Air bags)
Hi Steve! Based on investigations, it appears that the fragments developed gradually over time due to the decomposition of the airbag components in contact with the gas. This is why no fragments were observed in the crash tests.
The government should have let them go bankrupt instead of bailing them out of financial trouble 😮
@@geosradiomusicalstuff3124not even mentioning A LOT of money being lost for the economy and entire cities becoming devastated who rely on manufacturing plants.
I really don’t get the idea behind the bailouts in 2009/2010 being bad… that’s pretty much what got us out of the Great Recession. One of the best things Obama did.
Ford and Chrysler took bailouts as well. Chrysler is now extinct
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Honda had used Takata airbags in allot of their models - more then Toyota
Now I can look with other eyes at die VW Dieselgate, seems that was nothing compared to the "normal" scandals in automotive industry in the US :D
Yet California is going fter old cars yet meanwhile VW shitboxes are still out there. Here in Oz there was not even a recall.
You forgot Ford did it again with the police cars ( grand marquis) . Police cars got the recall but not cars for sale to the public.
Ford:
Fatality
Out-of-control
Rollover
Defective
The pinto is the best selling compact car, that should worry some people
@@lurch789 I'll be buying a yugo for college it might cost me a sht ton of money for maintenance
As you can see, Ford & GM put money over safety. Unfortunately, some of the executives maybe greedy and just want to get higher profits for the company and don't like spending or losing allot money
Every company does that.
Funny how y'all, just like tons of others, act like Toyota didn't have the most catastrophic safety recall, more severe than any of these & was simply overshadowed by the much less catastrophic GM ignition switch recall. Toyota's sticking accelerator killed far more & was a worldwide issue, but as is the case with them & Honda, it just gets swept under the rug, but heaven forbid Hyundai/Kia has an issue & everyone has their pitchforks out. I specifically watched this just to see if they were going to bring it up & they didn't, which didn't surprise me one bit.
Aftermarket floor carpets caused many of the problems, esp the ones that say universal fit. Carpet gets caught under the accelerator and grabs onto it.
@@jayjaynella4539 wrong, it was factory floor mates, but that was only on certain models, others the actual pedal got stuck, hence why it was called the "sticking accelerator pedal recall." I've said it once & I'll say it again, stop glorifying Toyotas & Hondas, they're not bad by any means, but they're not THAT good!
I mean, put it in neutral if the accelerator is stuck? what is so hard about that? press the brakes as brakes over power the engine if you havent messed up your car. if for some reason you cant put it in neutral do some other gear to destroy the engine and gearbox. its not pretty but better than keep accelerating.
@@JustinPennito you could be right, but its just that compared to a ford, any other car brand instantly looks so amazing.
The good old shotgun airbag
Rule number one when putting air in tires, look on the sidewall of the tires and put 5 psi less then whats the max psi rating of the tire. The door sticker is only for the "OEM TIRES ONLY" and if you buy better tires the psi ratings are completely different.
you forgot the most important one, look what brand your car is. then when it is a ford get rid off it and buy a decent car thats isnt a casket on wheels.
Shame....just absolute shame .😞
I wondered how we dodged all this foolishness
R.I.P to the deceased 🕯️🕯️
Is it just me or does the voice sound like it might be TTS? I do like the video regardless, as the content is interesting.
Greed,,greed,greed
Boeing 737 MAX anyone?
Well, I would have to create an airplane channel to talk about that scandal
Some of the replacement tires by other manufacturers had a higher failure rate than did the Firestone tires. The problem was Fords and Firestone was the scapegoat.
Gt7 lobby vibes
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The Worst Car Ever Made
1. 1999-2004 Mercedes Benz A-Class
2. Toyota Vitz
3. Autozam AZ-1 (PG6SA), No Airbag
4. Suzuki Cappuccino, came with an airbag for the driver
5. GMC Chevette, No Airbag
The Takata guy at 03:05 is looking really coked-up - that explains how this scandal could have happened.
Ford exploder
Ford rollover.
So if you have to learn 1 thing, it is dont buy fords.
Amazing how 'modern safety' items got so complicated just because stupid people could not figure out how / too lazy to operate seat belt buckles. Race cars don't have airbags✌️😁🤙
Ain't American capitalism GRAND...
"NITSA"?
Always try to save a buck over someone’s life.
Ain’t that capitalism!
Nissan rules
this is why don't buy american cars.. quantity over quality
Unfortunately that's how it is... and European cars are not far behind either.
Thats what u get when u bought uncle sam's products ladies & gents
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Ford, Ford, Ford, so disappointed in you, from your anti-Semitic founder to the other numerous scandals; but can’t help it, I’m a sucker for my Thunderbirds and my Mustang, so there it is.
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Did you hear about the special promo Firestone put out? They’re having a blowout sale… 🥸